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Stop Remaking Last Gen Games for New Consoles? The Order A Game Podcast Episode 18 Part 1

This week the team talks about:

-The Last of Us Remastered and whether it is worth buying again for the PS4
-Watch Dogs and the different processing techniques in the Console and PC versions
-Watch Dogs Just seem to exciting to some?
-Sales Numbers of Infamous Second Son and Titanfall
-The departure of the Halo Music Composer from Bungie

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Lonnie184077d ago

Yeah but "The Last Of Us", was really good and this give new PlayStation owners a change to experience it :)

UnbiasedOpinions4077d ago

Stop making cross platform games never mind, these publishers need to commit to the new consoles already! only BF4 did it right so far where buying it on the new consoles actually was worth it, even with its issues

MazzingerZ4077d ago

This is different, was a fully PS3 focused game but thanks to ND engine is PS4-ready and the port-friendly PS4 architecture, this was possible without much effort, many on PS4 have yet to play the game so they benefit from it, this doesn't hurt anybody, we talk about a great game.

UnbiasedOpinions4077d ago (Edited 4077d ago )

@Mazz: Yo i wasn't even talking about Playstation, i was talking about third party devs releasing games on both generations of consoles, they need to commit to these new machines already

joab7774077d ago (Edited 4077d ago )

Easier said than done...160 million consoles to 12 million. Hmmm? Maybe they just arent quite ready yet.

Besides, whats wrong with enticing former 360 owners to buy a ps4 to experience last years GotY? Yes, we all want new next gen games. Bioware said they are focusing on next gen first with Dragon Age. Sledgehammer said the same, and Watch Dogs looks pretty good.

Remember, companies have been doing this for years when making games for PC. Some ports dont take advantage and some do. But companies need the best chance to make money and Sony and MS our doing their best to sell consoles.

In the meantime, I have plenty to play on my PS4 right now w/ FF14, Watch Dogs and ESO is coming. Not to mention another action rpg next month.

UnbiasedOpinions4077d ago

Everyone i am not even talking about the Last of Us or Playstation, jeez i just think these cross platform games aren't really next gen as they are developing them with old hardware in mind is all

Parapraxis4077d ago (Edited 4077d ago )

" they need to commit to these new machines already"

Not when they have huge user bases on previous gen hardware.

A year or year and a half with cross-gen game development is good for gamers who haven't yet got new machines, and developers who can sell games to a much larger audience.

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randomass1714076d ago

@Parapraxis

Exactly. Millions upon millions more people have PS3s than PS4s. Why ignore that market just because PS4 is out? Why not make money off of both?

MazzingerZ4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

My bad, got tricked by those ads below the article's title, saw Ellie's face and thought was about The Last of Us...posting from a phone isn't smooth. I apologize UnbiasedOpinions

Agree with you, the sooner the stop porting to last gen the faster we will get into the new gen but the success of both PS3 and X360 is hard to ignore for publishers, it might take a couple of years before we are there, last FIFA was on PS2 was released last year so I think many franchises might continue doing this longer than expected, exclusives are key to force other publishers to deliver quality games which are only achieved if you focus in one platform

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quenomamen4077d ago

If they did that then there would be no more CODs.

spike4077d ago

Should I buy The Last Of Us for $25 or just wait for the PS4 release. I never played it before?

LKHGFDSA4077d ago

it's two months away, i'd wait.
When I played it on PS3 I couldn't help but notice jaggies, slowdowns, low res textures, etc.

randomass1714077d ago

For $25 the PS3 might be the better value, but if you really want to play the game with the better visuals and have all the DLC included then PS4. It depends on what you value most in your purchase. Hope that helps. :)

Dustinf114077d ago

Id say support naughty dog and get the ps4 copy. I have a feeling it will be well worth it and a true 8th gen game. Its the 60fps that does it.

randomass1714077d ago

I get what you're saying, but I already bought the original so I've already supported Naughty Dog and I will support them again with Uncharted 4 and with their big project after that. Even Naughty Dog said that TLOU remastered is not a big project for them.

Thehyph4077d ago

You'll definitely want at least the $15 Left Behind DLC.

That DLC is a necessary companion after completion of the game.

It's a hard choice. You could be playing it asap, but you only stand to profit by waiting. (Even if you don't get it on ps4, the game will be reduced even further on ps3 by then)

Phoenix764077d ago

If you have Ps+ then I personally would wait till a month after it's released and you may end up with a free copy of TLOU for ps3. That's what happened with Tomb Raider.

memots4077d ago

Ps4 dude. I am currently playing it on ps3 and wish it was on ps4

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LKHGFDSA4077d ago

the more the merrier, but I won't get a next gen console until there's something new on it.

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Marathon Development Update

Marathon was slated to launch on Sept. 23, 2025 across Xbox, PC, and PlayStation, but Bungie will share the new release date in the fall.

Jin_Sakai5d ago

Probably best just cancel it. The game has flop written all over it.

-Foxtrot5d ago

Yeah, you can delay it as much as you want but you ain’t gonna wash that stink off.

Killer2020UK5d ago

It will lessen though and possibly make all the difference if it launches in a state that rectified a lot of the issues people had with it. A LOT of ifs of course.

RaidenBlack5d ago

If you really gotta play ... play the better extraction shooter this year : ARC Raiders

ZeekQuattro5d ago

Delaying the inevitable. Bungie hoping the negative publicity will blow over. 🙄

darthv725d ago

They can't cancel it until a themed controller has been released first... like concord.

ZeekQuattro5d ago

I anxiously wait for that and a Marathon Secret Level episode.

GamingManiac5d ago

$10 says it'll have the stolen artwork on it lolol

dveio5d ago

If they were absolutely certain about the quality of Marathon, then they had not delayed it just now.

So they've basically just confirmed what everyone, well, a lot of people saw: Marathon is not ready yet, still no soul to be seen.

Tacoboto5d ago

"Doubling down on the Marathon Universe"

They're doubling down on soul, thank goodness this feedback illuminated that for them...

RaidenBlack5d ago

and N4G was littered with comments like : Marathon looks really good, maybe you're a hater and the likes blah blah ... especially under articles which compared it with Arc Raiders ....

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"Everything Happening To Bungie Is Because of Greed" -ex-employees

Ex- employees Hope Studio Gets "Consolidated Into Sony"

Former Bungie employees speak out in a new report, blaming greed and leadership for the studio’s troubles, and say full Sony consolidation is the best way forward.

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dveio32d ago

Interesting article, even with some actual names of the people voicing their thoughts.

I think that we've had enough similiar situations at other studios and publishers already, hell even completely different businesses, to know that OF COURSE it's always about hostile environments at work and the search for rather effortless profits than causing excitment with great ideas.

All deflecting statements, wether from managements or other people in charge, have always, literally always been untruthful. Always.

And it's so silly.

Nothing of this crap causes a nuclear war.

But all the people in charge act like everything is top secret f'n CIA like intel, trying everything to not stand up for their mistakes.

I mean it's pathetic, it really is. In the brand scheme of it all it's truly pathetic.

robtion30d ago

Let me just fix this:

'Everything Bad Happening in 'The world' Is Because of Greed'

Bravo captain obvious.

Obscure_Observer31d ago

All of sudden consolidation is now a good thing.

Eonjay31d ago

Right I actually agree with you here. Something doesnt' seem right almost like Sony wants them to look bad because it is trying to takeover. I can't figure out Sony's intentions here but they are already wholely owned so full consolidation means that they can bring in their own management. And honestly this is probably NOT what Bungie wanted.

Obscure_Observer31d ago

"Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment."

Exactly!

Phil allowed Pete Hines to run the show at Bethesda and we got Redfall as result. Now that he´s gone and Bethesda reports directly to Matt Booty at XGS, things are definitely getting better!

It´s past time to Sony to take over Bungie and fire that POS Pete Parsons.

-Foxtrot31d ago

Sony has literally given these guys chance after chance, they gave them an extra BILLION to try and keep talent along with telling them to sort their s**t out

What else can they do here? They gave them free reign, extra money and they've spat in their faces.

If they took full control when they bought them they might have been able to salvage them.

TheColbertinator31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Bungie will be torn to shreds with Sony in full control. Another addition to the cemetery like Zipper or Sony Liverpool

Eonjay31d ago

Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment.

MrBeatdown31d ago

Whatever mental gymnastics you just went through must be exhausting.

It sounds like you have some baggage from Microsoft's acquisition spree.

SimpleDad31d ago

Bungie was indie, so they depended on in game monetization. Sony makes money from other sources: music, movies, psn, ps hardware...

...so devs are hoping by full Sony consolidation they will cut down the monetization part, and make things easier for them...

...but keep in mind, Sony bought them because of their monetization and live service model and design, so much so they tried to make every Sony IP into a live service spinoff.

So I don't see much change in anything, for us consumers, if Sony takes full control.

Michiel198931d ago

i don't think you know what the word Indie means. Bungie has be under the hood of MS for a long time and basically were under the actiblizz hood while they were making Destiny. They are one of the biggest AAA studios, the polar opposite of indie. Technically they weren't owned, but they made deals with Acti like they were. Indie refers to smaller independent studios and don't need in game monetization at all to work. Hades for example has 0 ingame purchase options yet made a lot of money.

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It’s Just Over For ‘Marathon’

Marathon has always been teetered on the edge of future failure, but now that seems set in stone after recent events.

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CrashMania34d ago

Paul Tassi is a known xbox/MS stooge.

Saying that, Marathon looks so meh to me, absolutely no interest at all.

JEECE34d ago

Once he wrote an article characterizing Horizon Forbidden West, which came out over a year after the PS5 released, as a PS5 "launch game." Assuming this was just a mistake, I pointed out to him that "launch games" for a console are widely understood to be the games that come out on the day of a console's launch or in the immediate window thereafter. He responded and told me that he understood "launch game" to mean a game that launches, which would mean that every game that releases on a console is a "launch game" for that console.

I've basically ignored everything he has said since then. But I don't care about Marathon either way; playing Hunt: Showdown turned me off this genre pretty much.

Killer2020UK34d ago

He sounds like a stubborn moron

babadivad33d ago

It's releasing on Xbox...

Notellin33d ago

He's a Sony and Destiny fanboy. Has been forever. He plays Destiny 2 on PS5, what are you even talking about?

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neutralgamer199234d ago

If I was running Sony why would I not try to have bungie reboot Killzone and have it as their Halo. Honestly I don't know how Sony could justify that 3.6 billion purchase price. Insomniac games at 256 million has been their greatest acquisition in Playstation history for what they have already delivered and what's the pipeline

Profchaos34d ago

The smart money would have given them killzone but they brought them to be a pillar of their live services investment and seeming have no interest in allowing them near a single player story driven game again.

Lightning7734d ago

The bigger mistake imo is not having them do any SP projects. Just all LS stuff.

Also want to clear up some misinformation on my part about Marathon. It wasn't due to creative differences as to why Jade left it was due to early internal Play tests were reportedly not received very well. Which probably prompted her to leave. My fault on that.

Ghostwood34d ago

It does look like ass shit.

Would pulling the plug now make any difference or is Bungie thoroughly cooked regardless?

peppeaccardo34d ago

Since when Forbes is relevant for the gaming community?

Profchaos34d ago

Have a read and you can't say they are not wrong.

S2Killinit33d ago

I had a read and it was pure hyperbole

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