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Does Nintendo Appeal to the Modern Gamer?

Sean Halliday of Pixel Gate writes:

''There was a time that a games console only had to offer good games in order to appeal to consumers. Those were the days long before exclusive downloadable content and streaming. The new age of video game fans is upon us–and they expect it all. And maybe, just maybe, this is why Nintendo struggles to appeal.''

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kakashi812102d ago

Nintendo needs to focus on getting more adult rated games. I want to see an exclusive action or jrpg game using the full power of the wii u.

Geekman2102d ago

That wouldn't be Nintendo.

mikeslemonade2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

They appeal more to the crowd that is 20-35. The kids these days don't know the legacy of Zelda or Mario.

MONKEYDLUFFY2102d ago

You mean like monolith X or Bayo2

Muffins12232102d ago

Wish even then there not putting in the effort to those ips like that do with mario kart or zelda. They need to invest in new ips.

TitanUp2102d ago

agree with others nintendo would do good to invest in their own ips not other publishers. nintendo best games come from nintendo.

randomass1712102d ago

Luffy, you beat me to the punch on that one! X and Bayonetta are going to be amazing regardless of how well they are marketed. If a gamer wants exclusive mature games, those are the ones to own on Wii U.

wonderfulmonkeyman2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

Ratings aren't what matter in games, though.
Look at Journey.
That's a game that any mature gamer can enjoy.

thehobbyist2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

You don't need an M rating to be adult. I remember the day and age when video games weren't "for kids" or "for adults" they were just games and anyone who wanted to play them did. None of this "I don't buy Nintendo because that's for little kids" bullshit.

kakashi812102d ago

And you was a kid back then....smh

NukaCola2102d ago

The glory days before petty internet blog wars, criminal DLC, or a corrupt EA.

Back when fanboyism was fun and competitive but not childish and Adam Sesslerly.

randomass1712102d ago

@thehobbyist

I wholeheartedly agree. Sony still gives us Ratchet & Clank and Knack and both of those are mostly made for younger gamers. No one throws out that stupid argument for those games either. I love all games, cartoony ones and realistic ones. And both companies make both kinds of games.

protocol102102d ago

Its not nintendo's job to focus on adult games. Thats not their style. They are a family company. However, it is Nintendo's job to make sure they have enough third party support that can provide those type of experiences for those who want more mature content.

randomass1712102d ago

Isn't that out of their control at this point? Third parties are not interested in Wii U. Nintendo can't really force developers to work on their console. Buying exclusivity probably won't do them much good. People will just complain like with Bayonetta 2.

Shnazzyone2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

X is coming. Bayonetta 2 is coming. Seems pretty good. Monster hunter 3 U is pretty freaking awesome BTW.

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finito822102d ago

i think they have to in order to keep up and survive but its important they still focus on the originals games as well as they will always have a strong backing.

Geekman2102d ago

Would my friends 14 year old son own a Wii U with 9 games on it and a 3DS with 5 if it didn't?

GamerEuphoria2102d ago

Err yes? unless your friends son accounts for a huge slice of people?

deafdani2102d ago

His friend's son is representative of a huge portion of the gaming market: kids.

So, yes.

choujij2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

Some no, some yes. Depends on what type of games interest you.

McScroggz2102d ago

I think it's a pretty clear no.

Reeze2102d ago

The 3DS says "hello."

"Gamers" aren't just gore-loving basement-dwellers. Many of us simply enjoy video games. That's why it's called a "gamer." Someone who likes video games.

McScroggz2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

Handhelds aren't the same as home consoles. The bulk of people who buy handhelds are either enthusiasts (nearly every Vita owner) or, and I don't mean this negatively, casual (think a lot of young kids with 3DS). Nintendo has been extremely successful with their handhelds, minus a few stumbles early; yet, more and more of its core audience have abandoned the home console space in favor of other options (Sony, Microsoft, PC).

There is nothing wrong with mobile gaming. I love my DS and 3DS just like I love my Vita. However, from a public perception standpoint, these companies are judged based off of the home console market. That's why Nintendo has a very poor public perception (despite the 3DS), while Sony has a very positive public perception (despite the Vita).

Don't get mad at me because of this.

Ghost_Nappa2102d ago

But this isnt about the 3ds.

KonsoruMasuta2102d ago

Handheld or not. The article is about Nintendo. The 3DS is a very successful Nintendo product. You can try to argue about it's relevance all you want but it doesn't change the fact.

McScroggz2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

What I'm arguing is about the perception of Nintendo. Right now, the average gamer views them as irrelevant, Can Nintendo change that? Sure. Does that mean they won't make a profit? No, they certainly can.

The modern gamer didn't grow up with Nintendo dominating. In fact, modern gamers likely grew up while Sony started to take off or when Nintendo had become almost primarily catered to its existing core audience (which excluded newcomers).

We could get into a semantic argument over what constitutes a modern gamer and how much presence does Nintendo need to be relevant. My position is that Nintendo only really matters to Nintendo fans (generalizing of course), and that Nintendo fans are a group of people who have continued to shrink in large part because Nintendo has failed to grow its userbase.

When I think of a modern gamer, I don't picture somebody playing a Nintendo console. There's no way for me to quantify that. I just feel like Nintendo's presence, especially in the home console space where the perceptions of these companies are made, is not one I would associate with the word
"modern."

I know I'm going to get a lot of disagrees, but I'm not trying to bash Nintendo because it's fun. I just want Nintendo to find it's place in the modern gaming scene, and I don't think ignoring the issues is the right approach for fans.

KonsoruMasuta2102d ago (Edited 2102d ago )

"The modern gamer didn't grow up with Nintendo dominating."

I'm sure we were all there for the Wii's lifespan. Nintendo was dominating last generation, it wasn't that long ago.

The Wii was a success.

"Nintendo only matters to Nintendo fans"

Again, I point you in the way of the 3DS, which is getting casual and hardcore gamers alike. It's moving off of shelves with force.

Bravely Default did wonderful.

Zelda did wonderful.

Both of them are core games.

The only place where Nintendo is lacking support from people is with the WiiU. Don't try to say Nintendo as a whole is irrelevant to hardcore or modern gamers, it's untrue. 3DS proves you wrong.

And before you try to say 3DS doesn't matter, the article was referring to Nintendo as a whole and even brings up the 3DS. It matters.

McScroggz2102d ago

"I'm sure we were all there for the Wii's lifespan. Nintendo was dominating last generation, it wasn't that long ago."

This is something I think is very overstated. Sure, when the Wii came out is had incredible appeal and it had several years of selling exceptionally well. The problem is, after 3 (MAYBE 4) years the interest in the Wii has basically died. Sure, it still sold decently well because it was so cheap, but all but the dedicated Nintendo fans pretty much forgot about the Wii except for a game here or there.

Besides, it's obvious that the Wii was a fad - Not a fluke - but a fad. If you were around my age (25), then you saw and probably experienced the Wii hype and then after a couple years relegated the console to a tertiary role while we moved on to the Xbox 360 or PS3 or PC. If you were a kid, you got a taste of Nintendo games but likely moved on to Call of Duty or Halo (to the dismay of many a gamer). Plus, there were a lot of people that bought the Wii for themselves or a family member because it was cheap and has fun, intuitive controls for something like Wii Sports - and that crowd was obviously a temporary one and not one that bought a lot of games.

I mean, it's easy to say the Wii dominated. It has sold the most units, and made the most money. But you are lying to yourself if you think that equated to equal success in public perception. In fact, from a perception standpoint I'd argue it hurt Nintendo because its most loyal fanbase was treated to the most "casual" machine Nintendo has produced and left them salivating for more games for them. Going into the Wii U, I'd be willing to bet there was a not-insignificant portion of Nintendo fans who decided to not be an early adopter because of the Wii. Again, this isn't something I can quantify, but I feel pretty comfortable with this assessment.

So was the Wii a success? Absolutely, in terms of the bottom line. But the Wii did not "dominate" last gen in terms of relevancy and staying power. The last half of last gen it was almost as forgotten as the Wii U.

ChickeyCantor2102d ago

No matter how much you point out that the 3DS breaks down his whole argument he still finds a way to argue.

lol

thehobbyist2102d ago

Nintendo added a For Fun and For Glory mode to Smash Bros because gamers want that. They added a unified account system because gamers want that. They're doing eshop sales because gamers want that. They are improving they're online servers because gamers want that. They are so appealing to the modern gamer. All you have to do is take a step back and look at the whole picture.

protocol102102d ago

the problem is that the modern media has already convinced the average gamer that nintendo is doomed.

randomass1712102d ago

@protocol

That does seem like the most logical thing. Nintendo's Wii U is struggling for sure, but that's led to people saying some ignorant things about the company without much rhyme or reason. People actually think Nintendo will go out of business because of Wii U's low sales. That's just... dumb.

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