A happy PS4 owner (as well as a disillusioned Xbox fanboy) discusses what Microsoft needs to do to get him to buy an Xbox One.
Axe the Kinect.
I'm Telling you PS has always delivered the best brand quality and 1st party games aswell as a slew of 3rd part support. PS1 destroyed N64 PS2 destroyed Gamecube and xbx combined PS3 Was the best 1st part EVER and it did not rely on casuals, had a HUGE starting price, launched late and was still neck to neck with its competition PS4 Well lets be honest, it has no feasible competition at the moment. PS exclusives and 1st party has always been the star highlight of the brand aswell as the graphical fedilty of the games produced on their system aswell as the extra features given to customers (First console with Blu-ray, First console with dvd, First motion controls, etc,etc,) Long Live SONY and PLAYSTATION!!!
PS had motion controls first?
@bgamer if we're talking about motion controls then there are examples of this a lot earlier. One that I can think of is Samba de Amigo on Dreamcast. That was released in 1999. Also, motion control is considered to be a controller that uses accelerometers to judge movement. In that case the Wii in 2006 would be the first. I suppose Eye Toy was the first to track movement, kind of, using a camera peripheral.
Come on man, do your your research, Sony was not the first console to have motion controls drag and nintendo did it almost a decade before the playstation eye was introduced.
have none of you ever heard of the power glove? or seen the movie "the wizard"? Goddamn I'm getting old.
Sony and nintendo, if you ask me. Both of those companies make games for their systems. Nintendo is in a bit of an identity crisis, but they still make fabulous games. Sony has gotten out of their PS3 midlife crisis and now they're champions of the gaming market again. It's because they know games. Period.
@bgamer actually the gimmick of motion control has been around for a long time Atari actually had the first motion controller for a home console in the late 70's, they also had the first wireless controller and other futuristic before their time ideas.
I think PlayStation has always had the best balance for third and first party support. Personally, I enjoyed the N64 (and still do from time to time) more than the PS1. Both great consoles, but I was much more about gaming with buddies. PS2 was an absolutely amazing console. I can agree on that, thanks mostly to its games lineup. Sadly I did find PS3 to have better offerings for first party overall, but Nintendo's multiplayer games had me revisiting quite often. But also, Nintendo does have some overlooked games that were phenomenal (Pandora's Tower, Xenoblade, and The Last Story to name a few). All very memorable games. Honestly, I really want the PS4 to succeed this generation, but if I really had to care about sales and adoption rates, I hope Nintendo comes in second. Microsoft really doesn't need the revenue from the gaming industry like Sony and Nintendo do. That aside, if Sony and Nintendo fail, the original online vision for the XBOX One might actually become a thing for the next XBOX and without any well-known competition, you can count on Microsoft laughing all the way to the bank. Nothing against XBOX. It's a great console, but Microsoft is not a company I can say I like very much. We will see how this all plays out going forward.
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"I bought the original Xbox partly because, in my mind, the PS2′s enormous success killed my beloved Dreamcast, and I wanted to exact some revenge, and at the time it seemed that Microsoft wanted to continue where the Dreamcast left off." OMFG I was right all along. THIS is why MS fanboys exist... former Sega fans who are butthurt that PS2 obliterated their precious Dreamcast. Well, at least it was one person's reasoning anyway. ;)
Wow! Brutal honesty.
The xbone has been a monumental disaster with a catalog of F**K ups longer than an elephants dick so lets list them: Always online,DRM, Dom mattrick PR antics, 180 u-turn, Mandatory kinect, 720p vs ps4 1080p, The price, geologically long install time, under powered, too big , massive power brick, everything behind a paywall, Micro-transactions....
You summed it up pretty well there dude, but you also missed out Larry's "can't flip the switch" moment, Penello's desperation PR spin posts on NeoGaf, and Adam Orth's "#dealwithit". Perhaps even the true reason behind an always-listening Kinect is worth a mention: http://adage.com/article/sp... The biggest failure of all was building a multimedia box that ALSO plays games. It's affected it in the medium-term, and unless the secret sauce comes up trumps, it's a long-term disaster that they probably never saw coming. Regarding the games, they may have had more launch games, but those were all rushed to release on Nov 22nd, and all needed a lot more development time based on the final products minus the manufactured hype. At least, they're looking at turning things around best they can.
Don't ever give up, MS!!!!!!
Microsoft's biggest failure came years before. I was a HUGE fan of both the original Xbox and the 360, both outstanding consoles. However, a few years ago MS decided to shift focus from concentrating on the 360 as a console with great original cool 'core' games, and instead switched to focussing on Kinect, dashboard-apps, and ruining their exclusives with excessive 'greed' through DLC-milking (Gears, Forza, etc). THAT's when they lost me! Prior to the XBO announcement (which was terrible because of all the restrictions and customer-unfriendly tactics and 'TV TV TV TV TV' and mandatory Kinect 2.0 and such that were touted as 'the future', while I'm just interested in buying a console for GAMING first), they already had 3 terrible E3 presentations in 2010, 2011, and 2012. Don't get me wrong, I still play and love my 360 (mostly because of a great backlog, including many amazing XBLA games), but after those last few years, with the direction MS decided upon, they already lost me. For me, as a gamer, there's absolutely no reason right now to consider buying an XBO. Normally, the 'exclusives' would pull consumers in, but the Fable series has never lived up to it's full potential, and the fantastic Forza games have, for me, been completely ruined because of all the DLC-greed...
I can understand the company making a mistake or two. The firm is run by human beings so mistakes are inevitable. But Microsoft made a ton of mistakes with the XB1 which is something that I dont understand. You would think that if the firm took the industry extremely seriously there would be less of them. Microsoft has the resources and human capital to accomplish that.
DRM is starting to sound like an excuse since everyone constantly uses that support their one and only argument. That would be like saying someone doesn't trust PSN because it got hacked. I mean, Come on, that's ridiculous . Its part of MS list of screw ups, in fact its the biggest one. But everyone wants to focus on the negative (back then) and the not the growing positivity (present). At the moment I dunno if a 400$ price will make it sell like hotcakes alone. They need great line up of games and new compelling Ip's that are must have's and have that "Halo" kind of hype behind it. Plus more and more support for the smaller guys. MS needs games from all shapes and sizes. On top of making sure people understand that once and for all X1 is a definite games console that has Tv, apps, media etc as secondary and NOT the main focus like some other former lead Xbox guy. The message needs to be crystal clear and the X1 needs to be crystal clear. No more confusion or backtracking. Because honestly that back tracking is what's hurting MS right now as a whole. People wanna know wtf the X1 is, and what aspect of the console will be focused on the most. Now that gaming is the aspect that we wanted all along from the One. MS needs to stick to it. NO MORE CHANGING.
AngelicIce drm is not excuse to bash microsoft it is sensible grievance as it was microsoft decision to introduce these measures 24 hr check in, no sales of second hand games except when you pay them a fee.The fact is that they wanted to control the second hand market and use of your games. This is what microsoft do try to control the market.In fact they still dont seem that sorry about it, as any respond talks about how they could have explained it better, not how they should never consider it as family sharing was nothing like people hoped it was play for hour then pay.Sure in future we are going to be more digital so options will need to be looked at but this was not way as there are far better solutions. Also some peopke still go on about psn hack which you mention.It was a serious attack from skilled group,software always open to hacks so when this happened sony done the best thing and overhauled their system with better security. Microsoft has been hacked too they just hid it better.
The install times on x1 drive me around the bend it is so irritating and not a big fan of the UI (Metro style)
Well said beebap. I had an analogy about catching your just before she was about to do something and her intentions being paramount even though she didn't actually do it...... but I couldn't word it eloquently enough.....please fill in the gaps for us and you'll get my point... cheers
the whole 1080 Vs 720p thing never bothers me in fact most of the things you listed don't bother me. Do you know why, because I enjoy the exclusive games on both consoles.
Oh look the fanboys disagreed with me while the true gamers know what I talking about and agreed with me. Furthermore fanboys make me laugh, a few years ago they would of been supporting the Xbox 360 and hating on the PS3 now they jumped ship. That called being hypocritical.
Hypocritical? How has MS supported gaming? Please come up with how the last 3 years without games on 360 was supporting fans? Sorry PS3 support during that time was and still is fantastic. Whereas MS fans talk about amazing amount of exclusives when there are a handful only and conveniently forget 3 years dry spell. If you guys weren't hypocrites you guys suggesting exclusives as your reason to own xbone then why not just get a PS3? But it's okay you'll just make up more excuses? Your reasoning for jumping ship isn't even a reason. Yeah, your a true gamer alright.
@Chevalier so jumping ship from supporting Microsoft Xbox 360 to Sony's PS4 isn't hypocritical. Mmm if you say so it be like saying I going to support the winning team this year then who ever wins next year I going to support them all because there the most popular. I never jumped ship if you actually read what I put because I own both Microsoft's Xbox 360, Xbox One and I own Sony's PS3 and PS4 so if that isn't a gamer I don't know what is.
@CapraDemon Kinda like PS3. We all know how that turned out.
Not really the same. The same arrogance? Yes! But, the two companies are not in the same boat. The PS3 suffered from a large price tag and an extremely "alien" architecture. The E3 presentation did them no favors. However, that was about it. It turned out the way that it did because, luckily for Playstation, they didn't abandon their first parties. So, they had content that could prove what they were saying about the console's power. MS primarily relies on 2nd and 3rd parties to trumpet their excellence. But, this time, they don't have the sales lead, or ease of development as of yet, to get 3rd parties to run to them. Things might change, as you hinted, but right now this is where we are.
The Xbox One can recover, but it most certainly will not overtake PS4. That ship sank long ago when they created their own PR disaster over the DRM restrictions.
Another convert lol. PS4 wins pretty much hands down tbh.
Still lacking games though, only a fanboy would deny that.
But of course your not a fanboy, stupid argument. Neither PS4 or xbone has a massive library at the moment. So now Titanfail has been and gone what now ? Come back in a couple of years and say that. PS4 will kick xbones ass in the long run. You're just salty cos the guy don't want an xbone lol.
U still using that same BS excuse since the ps3 launch. U remember how it ended right? I just find it funny u can use that same BS line when we all said it is a marathon & the ps3 has been dishing out exclusives left & right for the last few years while core 360 owners been getting kinect crap & the same exclusive sequels & now the ps4 is outselling the XB1 by a large margine which increases every week world wide, u same ppl are saying its a marathon now lol. Dude u guys need to make up your brainwashed minds lol.
Currently more games to play on PS4 than XB1, and take a look at what's coming out the rest of the year for both consoles, PS4 way ahead... Unless you only count 60$ full retail "AAA" games, as games.
"Come back in few years and say that" I live in the present. Why even mention titanfall? I think its the most overhyped game this year. Looks like I hit a nerve saying ps4 is lacking games, so there is some truth in my statement. Everyone I know who owns both consoles only play on one............. and it isn't ps4. Cue lots of disagrees and vanishing bubbles
Funny how every xbone fanboy says that every one they know owns both consoles yet only plays the xbone, but there are nearly double the amount of ps4s out there in the world with people playing them daily. Here is some facts for you trollnut the ps4 has the most users, the ps4 has the most games, the ps4 has the better performing multiplats 100 percent of the time, the ps4 has the best looking exclusive so far and it is also the most powerful console ever made. Maybe get back to us when the xbone does anything better than the ps4 in gaming besides having the most low rated flops. P.s I have both consoles because I am a manager at EBgames I got them for free and I don't use the xbone at all.
You're kidding yourself if you think the PS4 doesn't have games. It might not have games you want to play, but that's a subjective argument. Trying to say it outright makes you sound like a fanboy there bub.
@bumnut You saying that the PS4 has no games is equal to me saying that no one is buying the xbone just because I don't buy one. But guess what, the world doesn't revolve just around you and me. The bigger picture says that the PS4 is outselling the Xbone almost 2:1 worldwide and that is all the fact that you need to know right now!
@Bumnut What, is this your first generation of gaming? Please stop with the "no games" talk. Yes, you have your updated 360 games now, but what will you have later on? This is the same thing you x bots were saying the last generation. Better first party games coming out along with the best multiplatform games, PlayStation 4 is the must have console.
Yeah lack of games from a MS fan no less. The irony is 3 years of no support for 360 and now you get a handful of exclusives must seem like it's raining exclusives. PS3 had more exclusives and PS4 will continue that. Please continue to grasp at straws cause it won't last long. Don't forget 360 had exclusives to start and how PS3 just kills in quantity and quality exclusives.
I always find its best in the long run to convert to the best available console in each generation and don't end up with a lame duck through blind brand loyalty. First half of last gen was microsofts then I switched to PS3 to play the brilliant exclusives and I'm 100% certain I'm going for the PS4 when the good games start coming out.
I'll generally buy the console that appeals to me at launch and then when something comes out on a competitor platform, that I want to play, I'll then buy it. Right now it's Xbox One - I like Forza and Titanfall, so shoot me - but when a killer app comes out on PS4 - I don't like Infamous, it's my preference - I'll be buying one. Games that aren't out yet don't count.
Simple. We know a good deal when we see one. X1 is not a good bargain, maybe later.
Honestly I think both consoles are a hard sell, and I can't believe that there is this much excitement for the PS4. The world has changed in a very significant way it would seem. People crave online subscription fees, sub-par exclusive games, micro-transactions, multiplayer-only games for the price of fully featured games and demos that cost $30.00. This has to be the worst time to be a gamer, and getting worse as time goes on.
Preach. I never thought I would give up gaming as I grew older, but now I can't see myself lasting another decade with the way things are going.
BattleAxe - Left go back in time to the PS3 launch. Barely any games, one great launch game. Look at the original motorstorm, that game only had 9 tracks when it launched. Sure it had multiplayer, but the rubberbanding of pole positioning and the "no incentives" for unlocks sorta made the game boring. Let's not talk about that "Dragon" game....Eventually Heavenly sword came out but as awesome as it was, it was not worth the full price You could beat the game in ~5 hours. Within the first year of the console being out there were only a few great games (opinion). The console had no rumble controller, and was priced higher than a ps4 especially when you count inflation. The HDD was only 20gig or 60 but at least you got backwards compatibility. Now you have a cheaper console with some great "console" exclusives, good 3rd party selection, and better specs HDD/ram/cpu wise. If you got a Vita then that's also a bonus. Yes - You have to pay to play online, but at least you get a "free" game included and cloud storage. I still think Sony did it wrong with the PS+ being mandatory for online, and should of instead made barebones multiplayer free.PS+ should of been social features to be locked under PS+. But Sony knew if Microsoft could get away with it....
Which is why Microsoft can NOT be supported this gen. We all already know where they want to go with the console business and it is not a pretty picture according to what the XBone was announced to be the first time. If we've come to the point of paying for online is because of Microsoft. Why is it that Microsoft fcks up everything they put their hands into??? An American company anyway. They love to rape peoples wallets. I'm an American citizen btw.
I actually don't care that PS+ has MP locked behind it, I'm staying subbed for as long as great games keep coming for it. The positives greatly outweigh the negatives. It would be great if there were no negatives but the few negatives that do exist (MP locked, need to stay subbed to play IGC games), I won't be experiencing because the service is too good to drop. XBLG... I was always in fear of it running out (around the time it should be running out, not everytime I used my 360) because I knew there was little reason to renew it and it would only restrict me and not benefit me in any way. It still baffles me that I need Gold to watch Netflix...
I think right now both systems only have a few great games worth buying a console for. It's not really that much different than last gen. The rest of the year is looking pretty good for both systems. The no games argument doesn't work for either system as far as I'm concerned. I personally have 8 retail games for the PS4 so not sure what people want since most people don't buy that many games in such a short time to begin with. I think the whole things boils down to if the games are appealing to a particular person. With the PS3 I did like MotorStorm, Folklore(one of my favorites of last gen), and I was even looking forward to Lair. The control change ruined that game though.:(
Obviously the PS4 isn't a hard sell, being that it has sold 7 million consoles in five months,
If a console has games you want to play on it, then it's a good deal. I wouldn't know what to do with a PS4 right now, so I'd be wasting $400 on it. The only thing I'd want to play on it at this point with any regularity would be War Thunder, but that's not out yet, and I'd rather not pay $400 for an indie, anyway. The PS4 will have plenty to do on it in 6-8 months. Better to get one then.
Agreed. Sure the PS4 has some irrelevant (to me) things in it's favor right now like hardware advantage, and sales. But to me there isn't a single thing on the system I consider worth ponying up 400$ for. Maybe down the road when I see a game I really want.
the same argument can be made for the xb1. I have had more fun out of my ps4 with Warframe alone then I have had with my xb1 and KI, Dead Rising, Titanfall and BF4. I didn't include Rise and Forza because after playing demo's of those games I didn't even want to go as far as buying them because I knew they would be a waste of money. There isn't a great deal on either console right now, but after being and xbox fan for the last two Gens and seeing how MS and Sony went through last gen, I still put more faith in what sony has lined up later down the line then what MS is currently offering right now or what they may offer later on. You have a system with 1 or 2 really good/great games on it and you have a system with lots of average games that mostly seem to belong with the last gen. Neither are worth $400 or more right now but I know which one I am still happy I spent money on and which one I regret buying so soon.
@DARK Exactly my point. That the console of choice is a preference. Yet we got this guy in the article stating his personal opinion as fact. Plus the thing that kind of raises a red flag on this author is that he claims to have been exclusive to Xbox for the past two gens even saying he was "oblivious to the PS3..." and yet says he wants JRPGS... IDK about you, but it was fairly evident the last 2 gens that if you were a JRPG fan, you weren't exactly getting many from Xbox.
Call me when Xbox one is worth $200-300 without kinect.
It's worth $300, but it doesn't cost it.
I love my x1 no matter how many bs articles I see and read
Agreed, as a multi console owner I can say with the amount of time spent on DR3 and Titanfall I have got my moneys worth out of the XB1 more than my PS4 so far
Nothing wrong with your opinions... its just that more people share the writers opinion at this point in time. Many more xbox guys have jumped ship than ps guys. Their reasons vary but the fact is many 360 guys are either holding out or straight switching to the cheaper more powerful console this gen. Many of those same converts remember how ms front loads only to fall off just after mid gen. Many see ms's lack of quality in house output as a negative especially when compared to the track record of the competitions. It's the exclusives that differentiate so the more and varied they are, the more likely you are to enjoy more. The greater commitment to producing in house, the more likely you are to produce a greater number of goty contenders and winners... see 'last gen' if you need proof. Why couldn't ms finish the gen with a god of war, beyond two souls and a the last of us. The final thing I'd note is that, that same kinect so many champion is the also one of the reasons many feel ms switched focus to cater for. Afer it was announced/released, the ratio of core to casual as flipped on its head heavily favouring casual kinect. Now its mandatory, ms will probably push even harder to keep it relevant which is understandable but what will the fallout be this time? Resources can only be stretched so far.
I bet you don't even have a PS4!
If E3 isn't big, then Xbox one has little chance of gaining ground, I would hope it does, seeing as I love the Xbox brand primarily, but at the same time, I also know when to pull out of a sinking ship, and if E3 isn't big, or Next year's line-up isn't gonna impress, then I'm going to have to Support Sony more. Just Common sense. Or I may just continue to upgrade my PC.. ugghh there's just not enough hope for us poor folk.
What can Microsoft possibly show to top what Sony has in hands: -Project Morpheus, demos, game announcements. -Playstation Now -The Order, more gameplay, release date, etc. -Uncharted 4? -Gran Turismo announcement? -God Of War? -Planetside 2 release date? -H1Z1 gameplay? Release date? -New games announcements? And that's just what comes to my head right now. Sony has so much games related stuff that it will take a lot for MS to top whatever Sony has.
I am very excited about H1Z1 I can't wait to get my hands on that game, I hope I can make a girl I don't want to talk on a mic as a girl with a man avatar lol.
-Quantum Break -Sunset Overdrive -Project Spark -Halo 5 -Halo 2 Anniversary -Forza Horizons 2 -Crackdown 3 -Gears of War Prequel/Sequel -New Game Announcements Those are just what comes to mind at the moment. MS has stated 15 Exclusives in the works so we can expect some kind of announcements at E3.
Don't get it twisted. MS has the bank roll to pretty much purchase any lineup that they want. We already KNOW that they have games coming. The question, because they are totally new IP, will be about how good they will be and how quick they will be adopted. Also, how long can they continue to use this particular strategy to compete? Timed exclusives and DLC won't dig them out of this situation. They need a clear and concise message for the future of the console. (they already seem to have the man to deliver that message) Then, they just need to prove it...at least to the mass market...die hard fans have already planned their purchase or have purchase it already.
if Microsoft play their cards right, I think they will be able to top anything Sony has to offer except for maybe uncharted 4... if e3 isnt that great then I will have to get into a ps4 as well.. But, For instance, if the order 1886 is all graphics and no real substance then Microsoft only has one game to beat and that's uncharted 4. I got tired of God of War after Chains of Olympus.. I have played planetside 2 and it's a broken game That means nothing to me personally. so unless it gets greatly improved I don't really see that being something to worry about and just because they give the release date for a game that already exists, would not make me more excited than something brand new being shown at e3 from Microsoft. Like I said, I think if e3 goes well, then Microsoft will have nothing to worry about whether or not their system is more powerful. I'm in this for the games, how powerful a system is has little to do with how much I will enjoy it that is why I was a fan of the Gamecube as well as the Wii for what few good titles it had.
Just think, e3 is around the corner and sony done said over 180 games were in development yet less then half have shown themselves. Pretty sure there is still much more greatness to come.
Both systems are good they will end up being great they both have a lot of things missing but the potential is there give both of the systems time, why are we so quick to make articles the systems are only a couple months old let them evolve first