GaminRealm: This may not come as a surprise to most, but the news is still extremely disappointing nonetheless; voice chat appears to be absent in Mario Kart 8.
For goodness sake Nintendo, your biggest releases like Mario Kart should feature as much features that use the Wii U as possible. It will show dedication among the gaming community that your taking your console seriously. If a low profile game doesn't support big features then it's not a big deal but when a huge up coming game like Mario Kart doesn't have at least a private voice chat for friends then I'm sorry but what the hell are Nintendo thinking. Along with Smash Bros, Mario Kart is one of the games this year which could show a huge sales spike for Nintendo if they play their cards right. I wish they would start taking it seriously.
Who the hell disagreed?
the anti movement nintendo drones
It's almost like they're purposely doing whatever it takes to stay behind the competition when it comes to adapting modern gaming technology. Kids aren't the only people playing your games, Nintendo! A lot of us have grown up since the 80s and 90s. Voice chat should be made OPTIONAL. And if Nintendo is afraid of public voice chat ruining the experience, they should at least allow people to chat PRIVATELY with FRIENDS!
I don't need people screaming online when they lose
Apologists. Nintendo won't ever advance if its fans keep apologizing for everything that they don't do to advance.
I agree it needs it for the masses. But I really think Nin doesn't want to have someone's childhood memories of this game, being told to go fuck their mother because they won a race. When I play MP games I rarely talk if I don't know the person for this reason.
Yep that would be the main reason I start a party chat, and keep it open even if the other people in the party leave...I just have no desire to hear DJ Skeet, skeet Ghetto and his remixes, or little jimmy and his baby mamma arguing. Or hear what neckbeard wants to do with his pecker. Lets also not forget the morons who sound like the mic is in their mouth or the fan that's 2 feet away
I agree.. outside of a party chat system which Nintendo has never supported on its consoles.. Not having public voice chat is fine... Im playing loads of Titanfall and cod and have yet to hear anyone say anything other than try to be annoying or talk smack.. not saying it is acceptable not to include it .. but IF you really needed it you could load skype or ventrilo on your laptop or phone to get it.. But it isnt a buy or not buy decision for me.
" Nin doesn't want to have someone's childhood memories of this game, being... " That's part of the problem. Kids aren't the only people playing your games, Nintendo! A lot of us have grown up since the 80s and 90s. Voice chat should be made OPTIONAL. Or at least allow for private chat with friends!
I can see your point but it is still backward thinking. They could have implemented a privacy system where under a certain age parental permission must be given for said function. The problem is Nintendo is ignoring who plays video games. There are children playing but particularly Nintendo have built up a nostalgic following (grew up playing Nintendo products) who are 30 onwards. Also isn't the average gamer age around mid to late 20s. This crowd would like that. I hate voice chat (so never use it) but to ignore it in multiplayer is silly. Killzone did it for a bit (arguably even more silly) but they found some sense. Hopefully Nintendo will patch it in.
@deadpoolio Funny bubble for you - you nailed everything I hate about voice chat in games.
Well said, let the trash talk stay on COD where it belongs.
As one who plays xbox live, chat isn't needed for Mario Kart as there is no real need for team cordination. I say it's a positive as there will always be those douche bag people who dont know when to shut up!
Yeah but I still would like to talk shit with my other ADULT friends while I'm playing with them.
Too be honest do you think this is really gonna matter or a person isn't going to purchase this game because you can't chat with your friends online .....yes chatting with others is an added feature for online play but before online became popular did anyone complain that they could not chat with their friends online .....and just because this feature is not there do you think nintendo isn't taking mario kart seriously....just looking at the trailers from this game should tell you different and that they put a lot of work into this game for them to not take it serious .....just saying
If we used that "no one complained in the past" excuse for any advances in gaming technology, we'd be stuck forever.
But is this gonna stop you from buying the game because of it ....NO ...lol that's my point ....yes it would have been cool or whatever but it doesn't have it ...shrugs
Mum wouldnt like little johnnys cursing loudly or so nintendo decided for us.
I agree with you. A title like this with a big focus on multiplayer should have voice chat.
* I'm assuming that most people who want voice chat, want, it so they can: * Brag about how good they are * Talk crap to people * Be annoying There aren't any strategies to announce during matches. * Be silent, concentrate, and try and have fun. If your talking, you can't possibly be fully concentrating and thus you are taking away from your potential ability. People who never shut up don't comprehend this though. Silence is golden sometimes.
As much as it's evidence of Nintendos unwilling nature to adapt modern technologies in multiplayer I don't think it's really going to be a hindrance. Maybe if it was a team based cooperative game it'd be an issue but in all honesty if Nintendo wants to keep the multiplayer child friendly this is probably one of the games where taking out voice chat isn't really an egregious offense.
If they are going to go with the child friendly approach then I'm sorry but their online in general will never grow. People are arseholes online, they can be racist, sexist, homophobic, immature, trolls etc but unfortunately that's just how multiplayer games are these days. Hell a lot of that is done by young people on online games we have today so this "young" audience Nintendo is aiming for with Mario Kart (as well as older players obviously) would be like anyone else if their was a voice chat. They would be the biggest culprits to be honest and that's because they most likely do it in other online games. If Nintendo want to push online forward and expand their multiplayer community then they are going to have to take the "child lock" off some day. They can't talk about how their consoles for everyone but treat it like it's for kids. It might seem like a small thing (it is) and it won't spoil the fun of the game or ruin it but the point is they will need to do it in the future if they want to grow in this ever changing market.
It's funny cause most of the "arseholes, sexist, homophobic, immature, trolls etc" are children between 7-16.
@Skate AK My point exactly....Nintendo seem to be clueless if they think all young kids are innocent online
To be honest if Nintendo already has parental controls in the software then that should be enough. And the parental controls alone could deactivate or activate which players have access to the in game or party chat.
They could at least allow for private chat with friends.
Hmm. Slightly disappointing, but I won't know what I'm missing. I've never used voice chat, because I've never had an online subscription for games that do have that option.
Speak out now and tell nintendo that you want voice chat!
We can't, cause voice isn't supported. *Ba Dum Tsss* :D http://lequestgamer.files.w...
Since when has nintendo listened? they just do what they want...since forever
So when do people actually talk in a racing game anyways? Certainly not during the race I hope
I think it has more to do with being able to trash talk a little while playing. I personally don't use this feature when playing online, but I want the people to have it that do normally use it.
Why does Mario Kart need voice chat? To curse at people when they hit you with a shell? Or to brag that you won a race? I really don't see a point in having voice chat. If makes sense in many games, such as any game that requires cooperation between players, but if doesn't have too many practical uses in Mario Kart. Maybe if you want to just have a chat with your friends that don't live close. But that is the only good part, while it would have many people cussing at each other and being racist and stupid. I can do without all the negatives without any strong positives.
So, just because you don't want it, that means it shouldn't be included? Voice chat is a standard feature among platforms that aren't on their death beds. Nintendo should be bending over backward to attract new customers, instead of relying on their faithful followers that will make any excuse that allows them to stay irrelevant in the marketplace.
Voice chat is too common on games that it doesn't belong in. IMO it voice chat is awesome! But only in games where it adds to the game not just to have it in there for people to cuss and be racist. And as for your spew on Nintendo's faithful followers, yes Nintendo has people that defend them because they make great games at a high standard, without a bunch of extras that don't actually add to thegame. Please Tell me one way that voice chat that will inhance Mario Kart. If you can give me a legit way I will agree with your post myself
Mario Kart is exactly the kind of game that could benefit from voice chat. I agree that a lot of games are ruined by the both inane and offensive comments that litter most MP lobbies, but there are a few genres that benefit greatly from the communication. These include any genre in which strategy and general tactics need to be voiced quickly in order to be effective. The other instance in which voice chat is great are party games or games that cater to friendly trash talk. Mario Kart arguably shades both those categories. One of the greatest aspects of the previous games was playing with friends and giving each other a little shit. Even though it's impossible to replicate the feeling of playing against friends on the same couch, you can get far closer to that feeling if you allow those same people to speak to each other, regardless of whether or not they're actually in the same room. If you take away features just because of what the lowest common denominator might do, you're going to end up making too many compromises that do nothing to make the game more enjoyable for the rest of us. There's a mute button for a reason. PostMesmeric - That's a false equivalency. Adding voice chat doesn't take away dev time from the content creators and there's always the option to mute. Hell, they could put the option right in the MP menu so that you never have to hear it, or even make it part of the parental control system. Problem solved, but they won't do it because Nintendo is tone deaf. Hence the lagging sales. "then you're beyond anyone's help." Typical hyperbolic statement from one of the Ninty faithful.
"So, just because you don't want it, that means it shouldn't be included?" Remember when Bioshock and Tomb Raider weren't going to have multiplayer, then we heard that argument and look what we got? Look, the game really has no reason not to have voice chat. It's competitive, and competitive gamers who don't play local multiplayer like to have a way to communicate with their fellow racers, that's clear, but man, if this supposed lack of voice chat just turned you completely off to Mario Kart, then you're beyond anyone's help.
Playing online with friends...to be able to have the same banter back and forth as couch coop
Sorry, man, you can throw the "Ninty faithful" line all you want. I'm being reasonable, which you would've noticed considering my other comments on this article where I said that Nintendo has no reason not to include this in this game. And really, they don't. I can't find a reason they shouldn't. They've done it before, it's a good game to have it in, it's not expensive; so why not? I'm saying that your attitude toward this issue is the same. In fact, everyone who wanted multiplayer in those games said the same thing you did. Verbatim. Word for word. I kid you not. They said the exact same thing. Also: "Problem solved, but they won't do it because Nintendo is tone deaf." "Little did we know it was to be an uprising of the casuals." "Voice chat is a standard feature among platforms that aren't on their death beds." Those are hyperbolic statements, my friend.
Who says that voice chat has to be "racist and stupid". Nintendo should at least allow for PRIVATE voice chat with FRIENDS, if you're afraid to chat publicly.
Nintendo is living in 1999
They actually sold consoles in 1999.
And 2005. ;) But who's counting?
Actually it was 2006. In 2005 they were still trying to convince people that they had a revolution on their hands. Little did we know it was to be an uprising of the casuals. You know, the same folks that abandoned them for Facebook and mobile games. The point is that they're not doing well right now and should be trying to attract more customers. Sony was in the same position not too long ago and they didn't start to make any progress until the let go of their egos.
Gaming was much better in 1999, so your point is... what, exactly?
Sigh... Nintendo still don't get it.
I'd say Nintendo doesn't get "Parental Controls" for online gaming. Mario Kart 8 could have it so parents could disallow voice chat for their kids, while Nintendo maintains its family friendly image and pleases gamers like us.
I think if they're afraid of public voice chat ruining the experience, they should at least allow for private chat with friends.
Come on Nintendo
Voice chat should be in ANY online competitive game point blank. If you don't like what someone is saying then mute them.
^^^^ this Every game now a days supports chat. If madden and other competitive games use in game chat Mario cart should. With the lack or party chat or any communication feature the idea of playing with friends is dull and boring. I picture a race with friends someone uses the star or blue shell and wins, there's no GG or trash talk just a results screen then a load to the next match. There probably would be a text message or something sent due to the lack of chat feature. Nintendo really needs to get with the times, it's 2014 and the WiiU can't even have a AAA game with chat. I for one love a party chat feature as playing forza is really fun while catching up with a friend or talking trash.
o nintendo!!!!!! if smash doesn't have it they are doomed im sry online will be pointless
...I don't see how this is a confirmation, only speculation. Why not wait until more details are revealed?
Unless we are talking about party chat which nintendo consoles have never supported I dont see this as a big issue. Non party voice chat has never really been used in any game I have played online other than kids cussing people out or other being annoying. I am playing Titanfall and I have yet to even hear anyone using voice chat. Voice chat is nice if you are organizing private matches or something but outside of that it isnt really needed. Again I agree it should be in one of nintendoes biggest titles.. And especially if there is some sort of competitive mode.. but I dont really need to talk to people to own them ... if anything if I wanted to talk to my friends I can always skype them on my phone while im playing.
I just don't see why Nintendo wouldn't include it. I mean, I hate voice chat in online multiplayer. I never use it because I never hear anything useful or mature out of it. However, I know some people do like voice chat, and this can't be a feature that's too hard to include, in my opinion.
Why skype or call on the phone? Because Nintendo didn't want to add chat. By using the alternative is just going around the issue. If Nintendo did their job right or with high quality you wouldn't need to use a phone or anything else. It would have an all in one feature. If you play titanfall with friends then I would guess it be stupid to use skype or a phone call since you can party chat with friends.
In game party chat quality sux in tfall ... Which is the reason me and my friends use vent, Dolby axon, and or Skype (I assume you connected the dots and realize I play on PC).. We use alternative chat software like party chat would work on x1 / ps4 (I wish Nintendo would provide that feature, but we all know they wont) Also it is quite possible that having voice chat from a tech standpoint eats up resources. Maybe to squeeze those visuals at 60fps they didn't include it. The more likely assumption would be the old Nintendo moniker of protecting children. It is an odd exclusion considering trine 2 on the eshop includes it.
why why why no voice chat nintendo this is why ur losing touch with your audience, your audience has evolved since the 90s and other consoles have a social online aspect step up nintendo
Why couldn't they simply just make it so that unless you're a certain age a child lock would disable the use of voice chat? Well this is great, their's no way Smash Bros is having voice chat now. It's not like this was a serious back for nintendo but more so a missed opportunity.
I don't know... In public lobbies, the combination of raging, bragging, background noise, and static from 12 people at once would be atrocious... In private lobbies it would be quite fine, though. I think it should have voice chat since it's going to be the biggest online game on Wii U for quite some time.
Everyone I know with a Wii U also has a PS4. Lol. So, we'll use the PS4's voice chat while we play Mario Kart.
My friends and I used Skype during Mario Kart 7 playthroughs. :)
I may have to use that, as well. I use it when I play on Steam. :)
Just have an option to turn off chat for parental controls. Nah dude we just got into the hd world give us a break ok.
This seems very odd to me, since Nintendo is not unfamiliar with voice chat (they did it with the DS lots of times). Considering this is a pretty competitive game, it seems really weird that they'd omit this, at least for this game in particular.
I will be to busy smoking fools on the track to talk....don't care..
Wait is this 2000? Who doesn't have voice chat in a game with online MP? Nintendo further proving they don't get it of late.
I don't really view it as severely disappointing. It'd be nice to have, but it won't make the game any less fun for not being there. For Mario Kart and Smash, it's pretty much a non-essential feature. Trash talk gets annoying over a mic after a while anyways, and besides, how does not having chat make the races any less brilliantly designed or fun to go through? Smack talking isn't as important as some people make it out to be. But I guess I'm just talking to a metaphorical brick wall here, aren't I? People who want to scream when they're owned and brag when they're doing the stomping want a way to screw with others outside of letting their skills do the talking, and anyone who disagrees and thinks it's not needed in Mario Kart or Smash is "just an apologist/fanboy/etc", am I right? *Sigh* I hate overly-competitive sentiments like this. The game won't be any less fun without voice chat, and like it was said earlier, there's plenty of free programs on the internet to let you chat with buds as you race... Nintendo does need to get with the times as far as internet options goes, yeah, but this is just being blown out of proportion.