VGN Author writes: March will be a huge month for Microsoft’s Xbox One. Titanfall has turned into a huge deal thanks to the marketing genius of Microsoft.
This is a very good point. While many gamers know that this game NEEDS Live to play, many parents may not know this.
Yup. Saw a few parents at Best Buy with the same issue. By default with a game like this (online only) a 3 month xbox live card should be added with the game. At the very least.
Or at least a 1 month card. I think the game comes with a 48 hour card
kinda silly to buy a multiplayer only game with no online subscription especially if you own an xbox since you need to pay for all. i don't see this as a MS scam, i think consumers are not smart for not buying the right thing after all these years.
well get use to it destiny and devision online too. I'm sure a lot more games will be this way. also live has been 40 for awhile now.
can people in America not get any deals? My Titanfall on Xbox one was £37 and my live was £23. If people check the internet they could find live for $40 somewhere.
I bought a 12 month for $34.99 on eBay. Xbox ran a special back in November I think it was for $39.99. The back of the game says it needs a connection so I think people need to read. The one thing I don't like about this article, it's making it out to sound like you have to pay $120 just for this game and that's not true. I would say the majority of X1 owners already have a Live subscriptions. It's a small percentage of those who actually have to buy a subscription when picking up the game.
@ Pontiac, Very true but the problem with people today is they want things RIGHT NOW and dont want to take the time to search for deals and order things online where they are cheaper. Sadly most will pay full price. Then again if people get to release day with Titanfall and didn't know it was multi only, maybe they should do some research before buying.
Shoot I'd be happy if I was the kid, heck yea mom got me online too!!
Well played Microsoft. If you own an Xbox you know that you will need Xbox live to play games online, watch netflix etc. Steady stream of Xbox income for Microsoft, lower pricing free stuff/months would be appreciated Microsoft. Pricing could definitely be better or maybe just give some months with the game. Consider that if they play the game for 2 year it is an 180 dollar game. If it takes 3 years for a sequal it is an 240 game. Well unless you buy it cheaper if you buy multiple games you might need to devide the number or subtract from it.
I don't get how this only applies to Microsoft... Sony charges to play online as well... SMH. Plus you only pay once for ALL games. You make it seem as if though you have to pay for EACH game, lol.
In addition, if you are in the US and still paying $60 for live, something might just be wrong with you.. even recently you could get live from the Microsoft store for $40.
True, but most games for the Ps4 can be played on stand alone. There's no need for online in the case. To have a choice is a good thing.
Um, Playstation requires a membership to play games online too. Your not paying for a subscription just to play Titanfall online. You get all the benefits that come with it and the ability to play tons of other online games. Lets not make this out to be "it costs $120 to play titanfall for a year, $180 for two, etc etc." Your able to play ALL your games online. @BG11579 Most games for the X1 can be played on stand alone too. Not sure what your getting at.
Most gamers have xbl anyway. Its multiplayer only. This is just a twist on the point of the sub.
For those talking about the Playstation subscription... As far as I can tell by the current and upcoming releases Sony does not require a PS+ subscription for "online only" games.
"Um, Playstation requires a membership to play games online too. " Sure but not all games . Wich may seems ridiculous and a detail , but also not , depending on how you position yourself . I know that at least in between Plus subscriptions renewals and fresh out of trials codes , and with funds being used elsewhere , i could still play online a few stuff for 2 weeks and most of all still access every rental and trading services without that peculiar paywall . It's limited , and only a cruth , but what a nice one to have when in need ... Now i believe Titanfall would be only usable under a paywall on ps4
I thought it was already well known that all free 2 play and online only games don't require a PlayStation plus subscription. Also Netflix and any of the other subscription based streaming services dont require a PlayStation plus sub. Sony basically says that it's the developer's choice to place their software behind a plus subscription. http://www.gamesradar.com/p...
@ Qdog and J-R If you plan on playing anything online on PS4 you will need a PS+ subscription. Considering everyone is talking about the XOne version right now, thats what its getting compared to.
@ Antz That's just not true though with online only games and I think I know why. Sony left it up to the developers and if they are trying to get you to subscribe to their servers, why would they want a piece of their pie to go to Sony for a plus subscription. Again all f2p and online only games have not required a PlayStation plus subscription to play on PS4. Only single player games with a multiplayer component require a subscription. This whole paywall thing just seems like another way to nickel and dime the consumer and extract more profit from something you've already paid for. Essentially consumers are paying for the cost of development as well as server maintenance as well as the ISP cost. MS should bundle a broadband service with XB Live so that it at least makes sense.
@J-R That's because those games (not all but...) already have their own paywall (they're MMO's with fees).
@ QDog Thats just not true at all. If you plan on gaming online on a PS4, you have to pay for it. Thats a fact. I dont see Titanfall as nickel and diming: you go online, you have to pay. Its not like they're telling you up front theres going to be microtranscations. If this game was on PS4 the exact same thing would be happening, and you'd be paying to play.
Last time I'll post on this, if you don't get it with factual proof then you just won't get it. http://www.gamesradar.com/p... I'm playing DC Universe online right now after watching Dexter on Netflix without a Plus subscription. Warfarame, DCUO, and all other free2play and online only games DO NOT require a Plus subscription. This place is thick with numbskulls, shills, and disinformation.
Your logic fails horribly, as if in that meantime that person will only play t.f,
@Pontiac That's the trap. Not Titanfall. They give the game with the console, but to enjoy it you need Xbox live...
@ Antz yeah you're completely wrong dude. If its free to play you dont need the PS Plus service like DCUO, Warframe, etc. Now if Titanfall was on the PS4 yes you would need the plus service seeing how it was'nt free!!
Wait a minute, if this game wasn't exclusive to MS and is also available on the PS4 at launch, will Sony also be known as marketing geniuses because you also now need PSN+ to play online on the PS4 as well? Just curious.
Beat me to it. Hypocrisy is rampant on this site. If MS does something whether good or bad it is evil. If Sony does something that is good or bad it will be spun as good no matter what.
No. Because, Sony already gives plenty incentive to buy PS+. Live struggles to justify itself.
Uh no. I can play f2p games without plus. And you're kidding yourselves if you think Live = Plus. Anyone that has both could easily tell you the difference.
@ sins and Major he never said they were even. He said if you were able to play Titanfall on PS4 you would need an online subscription. Thats true.
@major No one thinks Live = Plus, one is a subscription and the other is an online ecosystem. I feel it is best described by this logic: Live > PSN Plus > Gold Overall Live is better at what it is intended for, but Plus kills Gold in value with the free games.
Name another online-only game on PlayStation(3 or 4) that requires Plus to play. I'll wait.
Yep. Another generation of the old "bait and switch" routine by Microsoft. Well, you guys might not have seen/understood how they did business last gen, I get that. Now you KNOW what's going on. If you signed up for seconds of that type of practice, then...*smh*
Lol, Its an online game. If it was on PS4 you'd be expected to have PS PLus. Whatever your view on the subject from this new gen forward on consoles you're going to have to pay to play online.
@antz1104 Yes, if it was on PS4 you'd need PSPlus to play it online. But you don't need PSPlus to play all games online which you don't seem to be grasping.
and MS effed up u guys again
If you pay over 40$ for live you are doing it wrong
The boards seem like the people in them are getting dumber and dumber. So is that the case with Sony when Destiny is released? In Destiny you will have to have an internet connection to play single player and now with the PS4 you have to pay for multiplayer, so is it the same thing? Neither company is duping anyone. Think for half a second before you start to post comments people.
I'm on the PS4 but if you buy a game and don't do the proper research its on you! Hell I don't even own the console and I know its 6 vs 6 online only!!!
Well i bought for origin no subscription bought fast2play for £27 I'm happy
by looking hard you'd find it for cheap???? amazon.com, i found it for $47 in less than 30 seconds and that wasn't even trying.... as for titanfall they've put it on the back of the box (or the side & back if you got the console bundle edition) that states you need gold for it....also available on PC which doesn't need it. so to sum it up if you buy it without realizing it needs gold it's entirely your fault, it's marked on the boxes and a quick google/bing/yahoo search will reveal the fact it's always online and as such will need xbox live gold
Parents buying this for the kids won't pay any attention to what's n the box.
yep that's why i said if you buy it without realizing it's entirely your fault.... wouldn't buy any other good without making sure u had everything required why should a game be different
Yah, well parents should be paying attention to what their kids are doing... if they don't know, it's their own fault.
Obviously they won't because a parent probably shouldn't buy this for a kid. I mean what do these parents want, another CoD situation to happen where we have spin tryouts and high pitched voices screaming about vaginas after every kill? No thank you parents take it back please. I need a good speller to explain how vaginas is misspelled?
@jackanderson1985 (is that your name and DOB???) And you expect parents, aunts, uncles, nongamers and the like to know that? Is this information part of their ads or commercials? Don't unequivocally blame people for purchases that which require other purchases that they may not have been aware of.
no it's neither just one of my internet pseudonyms name isn't even close to it ha keeps all my accounts on different sites separate And it's on the box, been mentioned on adverts (well Ireland anyways as that's my only reference)and is well documented all over the web.... would you buy a car without checking it out? it's not like it was a hidden fact that it's an online only game, requires XBLG to play (on the consoles) and that XBL requires a sub. had their been no mention of it anywhere then yeah it'd be shady but not if it's in black/white on the actual box u pick up
This argument is really stupid. So you would buy a car and not expect to put gas in it? This is about the equivalent to that. It costs money to provide a service. Therefore, someone has to pay for it.. I do agree that they should not put some things behind a paywall and maybe they should offer some more stuff ala Playstation Plus, but the Live argument really is redundant.
This is a really fail logic Most of the guys who'll buy this game are Multiplyer audiences Coming out of Halo,CoD & BF They already had XBL on 360 & carried it over to XBone Non Multiplyer gamers who don't play online games regurly are not exactly the ones who'll buy this game
Well said and makes too much sense for this thread.
l have a ps4, not interested in buying a xbone ever and l agree, what the heck is everyone arguing about >.>
Genius marketing or not, it is generating good sales simply because it's a good game. Same thing will happen for Second Son and PS4 of course.
But with I:SS, You don't need online.
Of course, but not so sure that it is a good thing
Who cares? You need it to play any other game with an online component, on both systems, so this is nothing new or detrimental to the player. With I:SS, you also get lower framerates than sony fans typically get with PS4, so does that mean we are supposed to bash it and say it sucks? No. stay in your cave, Troll.
@Kavorklestein So this is how it is on N4G eh? Calling everyone a TROLL for pointing out the plain OBVIOUS. How about you stop with all the personal attacks you keep dishing out.
Stupid article, who the hell buys an online only game when they don't play online? Idiots that don't read the backs of boxes or do any research. Its like saying "Omg I bought a bly ray but it doesn't work in my DVD player" (my mum did that...moronic woman).
Says the Clown demeaning his own Mother.
Kid these days..
MAYBE...some adults don't spend all of their free time on gaming websites. MAYBE...there are a larger community of adults that deal with real-world current events and buy Little Johnny a video game just so he can STFU, and aren't aware of the intracacies of what game is online or not, what game requires a subscription or not. Ridiculous, huh? You do know what kind of oil you need for a 99 Chevy Malibu, right? How about where your air filter is probably located? WHAT?! You DON'T?! What a CLOWN you are! *smGDh*
I don't think parents that buy a $499 console to their kids will sweat about buying 1 year of Xbox Live.
Um, people by online only games all the time. Have you seen how many people play WOW and League of Legends? Let's not forget DOTA. Besides the point, if a parent is buying this game for their kid with an M rating, we need to check ourselves and pay more attention to what our kids are involved in. So Microsoft isn't to blame, If you have an Xbox or PS4,9 out 10 people will have an online account.
So..does this also mean that "I have to pay $120" for Destiny and The Division. Since those are both online only games that require a sub fee to xbl/psn. Does that also make them a scam? ಠ_ಠ And for the sake of convenience should I also assume that the majority of Titanfall sales will be due to misinformed parents buying their children the game, even though the average age of gamers is in the 30s. AND, for even more convenience, let's just assume that the majority of gamers who bought titanfall DON'T already have xbl subscriptions for their next gen console that has very little single player only games. @Hugodastrevas, Whether or not psn gives me free games is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the topic of whether or not this $120 scam logic also applies to Destiny and The Division. P.S. Games With Gold
With PS+ you also get free games to play for as long as you keep PS+, so, in the scheme of things PS+ is a better deal. As for Destiny requiring PS+ I'm not sure, some games don't require PS+ (online only games mostly. I guess we'll see.
Ok, let's clear something up. As stated by SONY, games that are free to play or online-only will NOT require PS+. So if Titanfall was on PS4 it would cost you $60, PERIOD. No subscription required. Just thought I'd clear up that little misconception...
Actually, I bought Xbox live so that I could play Mech Assault on the original Xbox... been subscribing to play a variety of games ever since. So this game didn't cost me $120. It cost me$60
And people say that console gaming is less expensive than PC gaming.
So what, any multiplayer only game for ps4 will be the same, 60 game + 60 psn+ for year.