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Why Microsoft’s Xbox One does not stand a chance in Japan

With a lack of exclusive games and Japan’s brand loyalty Microsoft is going to have a tough time breaking through to the land of the rising sun.

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KrisButtar3704d ago

I'm not a 100% sure about that even with the reasons the writer gave because if Microsoft released the X1 and said exclusive content is coming for FF15 and KH3 it likely will be a big deal.

Chaostar3704d ago

MS doesn't have exclusive content for those games, do they?

Link please?

KrisButtar3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

lol, No they haven't said anything. I was just pointing out that everyone says MS doesn't stand a chance in Japan and if they announced something like exclusive content for those games it could be a game changer for MS in Japan.

Edit: spelling

Chaostar3704d ago

Oh OK, you made it sound like they already had it.

Anyway, what makes you think that exclusive content for a couple of games will help them any more than full exclusive games helped the 360?

amiga-man3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

If M$ are losing in their previous stronghold America what chance will they seriously have in Japan?

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otakukidd3704d ago

If lost Odyssey and blue dragon couldnt make the 360 big in japan , I don't think anything could

TomShoe3704d ago

@Kris

I hate to be a downer, but I'll tell you right now, the Xbox isn't going to do well. It's a neverending circle really.

The Xbox doesn't sell in Japan because it doesn't have many Japan focused games.

It doesn't have many Japan focused games because Japanese developers don't make games for it.

Japanese developers don't make games for it because it's not profitable.

It's not profitable because there's barely any install base.

There's barely any install base because it doesn't sell!

It's a crappy cycle (much like the Vita) and I hate it, but I don't see it changing any time soon.

hkgamer3704d ago

@tomshoe

360 had exclusives and had Japanese focused games. Basically they paid for devs to develop for them. Sadly it just didn't make too big of a difference and Japanese developers took advantage of taking ms money and then giving ps3 an enhanced version

KrisButtar3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

I'm just thinking that MS are going to try something to try and have a strong start in Japan. I really can't see them rolling over to die at the beginning of this Gen.

Couple of the things MS might do are timed exclusives, buy exclusives, timed DLC and if they get the right games with the right stuff it could be interesting. Now how far they will go or how deep they reach in their pockets is another thing.

A crazy example would be a FF7 remake exclusive.

nukeitall3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

Even if MS had Final Fantasy exclusive to Xbox One, I don't think they will succeed significantly to make a dent in Japan.

Japan is a strongly nationalistic country, with great pride. That means, products they have a long history with isn't easily replaced with a foreign brand. Heck, even a sh!tty American cars, the midwest that manufacturers them frowns upon Japanese cars. So the Japanese being even more nationalistic would make it almost impossible.

There are only two possible contenders in Japan, that is Sony and Nintendo (or another japanese company OR neither of them existed anymore).

This won't stop MS from trying, and I commend them for that, but they have a huge uphill battle there. Better stick to other regions that care!

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Bennibop3704d ago

For the 360 the had exclusive JRPGs and still didn't sell very well, this gen will be exactly the same.

Sarcasm3704d ago

Nope I disagree, it's not going to be exactly the same. It's going to be worse.

If I was a MS executive, I wouldn't bother trying for the Japanese market anymore. The amount of money spent versus the gain is simply not worth it. I would take my resources and start to try and win back the US and UK.

Magicite3704d ago

When did anything related Xbox had a chance in Asia?

HeartlessGamer3704d ago

If exclusive content does come to those games it will mostly be for the PS4 versions just saying

Baccra173704d ago

Not even tentacle rape, Gundam, or Son Goku could save Xbone now.

Godmars2903704d ago

Saying MS has the pull or even money to get FF15 and KH3 as exclusives, for just Japan nevermind the world, is like wishing for bottled orgasms.

KrisButtar3704d ago

True I may have gone a little extreme, but saying a company doesn't stand a chance without knowing what's going on behind closed doors is also wishful thinking is what I was getting at even with the reasons the article gave, its still not set in stone

JodyCones3704d ago

If anyone has exclusive content for KH3 and FF15, it's going to be PlayStation.

Godmars2903704d ago

"saying a company doesn't stand a chance without knowing what's going on behind closed doors is also wishful thinking"

Except there are the examples of two failed consoles. Ignoring the first Xbox, looking at how the 360 began strong then fell off despite over a year's lead and JRPG, looking at how the XB1 is coming into Japan on low key after the PS4's launch, even with FF15 and KH3 it would be going uphill. And as stated before it doesn't have them.

It really doesn't even have Titanfall to show off its strengths in the world market. How is it suppose to do better in Japan with crap like that going on?

Sarcasm3704d ago

The X360 was cheaper than the ps3, arguably had some of the best jrpg's catered to the Japanese market, as well as had all the western games that also catered to non-japanese people in Japan, and STILL didn't put a dent in the market.

What makes you think the Xbox One with its higher price tag, physically bulky system (Japanese people like smaller form factors), and lack of any games that cater to the market has any chance at all?

D3ATH_DRIV3R_7773704d ago

@KrisButtar

Did MS pay u to say that? 2 games ain'tgoing to make that system sell. FAIL

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Concertoine3704d ago

I think they did all they could with the xbox and 360, they seem to be doing even less with the xbone so theres not much point

dericb113704d ago

Good point. They used the 360 as a "Our system can play those game just as well or slightly better system.
This time Sony does really care if they have the games. And MS can't take ain't games from Sony because exclusives are exclusive and multiplats will run the same if not better on the PS4.

Concertoine3704d ago

Even then they had lost planet, dead rising, monster hunter frontier, lost odyssey, blue dragon, and a lot of other japanese-centric games that were exclusive or timed exclusive and even with all that they couldnt get their foot in the door.

vigilante_man3704d ago

They did not do all they could with the 360. They shut down 1st pasty studios and concentrated on the US and UK markets primarily.

Just look at Sony's approach. They welcome all development from AAA to indie games. They invest in studios and games not throwing money for exclusive DLC, etc.

Microsoft do come across very arrogant and narrow-minded in its approach to game development. Once you embrace gamers and developers they will embrace you back.

They could do quite well in Japan if they had the will and patience. Develop ties with Japanese developers and produce some Japanese specific games. They may well not see any benefit in the near future but if they stuck at it they may reap the rewards with any future console (if they decide to make another console).

Concertoine3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

Im talking about the first few years, 2006-2008. After that they pretty much gave up, rightfully so. In that two year period they pretty much did all they could. The problem with xbox's chances in japan is the first xbox flopped there after lack of support, that led to a chain of non existent brand loyalty continuing with the 360. Even if they did everything right with the xbone in japan it probably still wouldnt top 2 million. At this point xbox systems are just a collectors item in japan.

They did produce a ton of japanese games actially. Lost odyssey, blue dragon, tales of vesparia, ninja gaiden 2, star ocean: the last hope, lost planet 1, dead rising 1, dead or alive 4... list goes on too.
Sony and nintendo are just too dominant for a 3rd competitor.

hkgamer3704d ago

360 came out with the right attitude and many things correct.

Friends list and user names across all games.

Achievements

Custom song list

Mp game invites.

They also tried all they could for Japan.

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StarshipZero3704d ago

If the Xbox One is more expensive than the PS4 in Japan it has no chance. If they want to compete the Xbox One would have to be the equivalent of $299 not $499 and even still it would probably get outsold since the PS3 outsold the 360 by a heavy margin with a bigger price gap.

Mikelarry3704d ago

buhahahaha MS and japan in the same sentence. but honestly i do tip my hat to them for trying even when the clearly knew what they were going up against

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot14h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke198h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke194h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

-Foxtrot2h ago

"Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs"

He's literally just told you why

We're waiting like 15 years before a sequel comes out, it's insane

Skyrim came out in 2011, the next game is expected to come out in 2027 at the earliest so that's 16 years apart while Fallout 4 came out in 2015 and might not release until 2031, again 16 years.

We're fine with Bethesda trying new things and doing new IPs like Starfield but adding a new game to the cycle now means a bigger wait. Also Starfield didn't meet most peoples expectations, can you imagine waiting 15 years or so for a sequel and it's disappointing? It would feel even worse because you would have to wait another 15 years to see if they manage to come back from it.

They need to give it to another developer, we don't need main numbered titles but a spin off of Fallout and Elder Scrolls should be cycled in between the long gaps of the main releases.

Once again you are making out people want these games as quick as possible when all we want is a standard development time of at least 4 years or so rather than waiting 15.

mandf6h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor7h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave6h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor4h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

-Foxtrot2h ago

@Skuletor

Who's saying to rush the releases? No one is saying that...

People just don't want to be waiting 15 years for a sequel, they aren't working on the game for that long, you do realise that right? The issue isn't coming down to them working on the game and us "rushing them", it's the fact they are working on other games like Starfield now meaning bigger gaps before they even get started on them.

I bet you any more Elder Scrolls VI only entered full development last year when Starfield was finished despite being announced in 2018.

Duke194h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai6h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris5h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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