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Lessons the Wii U should learn from the Super Nintendo.

Imran of the 16bitkings has had some time to asses the Wii U along side a SNES and draws up some ideas he thinks Nintedo could heed from their past successes.

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Benjaminkno4127d ago

...say... that button configuration looks familiar...

I'm not sure if gaming will be as golden as it used to be.

Now it's so... ... Hollywood ...

Mistakes or not, Nintendo has chosen their own path, and now they have to deal with it. All of this started after SNES... when Nintendo's newly formed relationship with Sony went sour. Everyone knows how much the original PlayStation helped the industry. Though wonderful Ps4 sales hasn't convinced me that the industry is still healthy.

We should be concerned with the market overall right now, with the exception of PC, smartphone and indie development.

Looks like things are only going to get worse before it gets better.
Especially for WiiU.

Even if WiiU sales somehow skyrocketed from SmshBros and MarioKart, that's not going to entice third party devs to support the console.

If only they didn't name it after Wii....

fonger084127d ago

It is extremely Hollywood and coporate.
It will be interesting to see the total numbers sold for consoles after this gen to truely see if the "causal" effect has taken away a good portion of the market. The traditional gaming industry, right now, is not exactly a very profitable business. Sony is essentially breaking even with their record numbers, Microsoft posted a profit for last year but with the need to cut the price on the Xbox One now will only dig into their margins... and the Wii U is costing the Nintendo millions their first console to lose them money. Right now I only see Sony/Playstation making money in the near future because of the manufacturing cost of the PS4 is so low (and will only get lower).

N4g_null4126d ago

Very good post and subject. Anything nintendo would have been panned. There game play goes against the Hollywood design and pr hype machines. Certain companies just want to get rid of them all together. The truth of the matter is they are the only real console maker here now. Look at their out put so far... A huge amount of side scrollers, fitness games, exploration games, arcade action games, motion based games.

Hollywood only knows polygon count and effects. Any attempt to make a none pc based game results in boring... example would be knack.

So if Nintendo would have matched sony like how ms tried to do nintendo would have been stuck with a huge price tag and no 3rd party support.

The fusion project if they don't change their minds should fix the game output issue. I'm sure some indies could get bought out if they fill the ranks with uncharted like renders which is easier to do now on the wiiu.

There seems to be an empty drive with these current numbers for the ps4. Yet it has a ps2 ish feel to it. People have huge faith in 3rd parties now it seems yet last gen would show you 3rd parties as a whole are getting worst... let's see we lost midway, epic is a shell of its self and shunned gpgpu then everyone released a console with them lol. Bio ware is gone, value is never coming back. Cap com is unable to make new ip at all. Square almost died, Konami only makes metal gear now. Id software lost its main guy, rare is dead on arrival. NAUGHTY dog can only make story games now. Mine craft crush them all and that seems to be the only game notch wants to release lol.

It is not looking good. The industry is starting to get the game college grads only... the passion is gone and they are not giving the incentive to make new things or the money to fund them.

Every one is reacting to the apps store crazy and they love it... the bar is even lower now yet ever so high on consoles now.

App gaming and Hollywood gaming are both devaluing gaming as a whole. I remember paying 75 dollars for sf2 and loving it.

higgins784127d ago (Edited 4127d ago )

People accuse Nintendo of living in the past, that or re-releasing the same games over and over...like 1-2 every generation amounts to just how many COD's, Uncharted's or other such franchises milk the teat until its sore. Hear we are however re-living the past, asking (again) for Nintendo to live in it. I'm not saying the Wii U has had the best launch, particularly compared with other Nintendo launches, but both PS4 (I own one) and Xbox One have had arguably worse launches, hardware which has taken a step backwards and games cheaper and more readily available on past machines.

If however we are asking Nintendo to take some inspiration from previous consoles in its lineage then that surely should only be one...Gamecube. The Gamecube was a pure games machine, no trying to be the centre of the living room, a games machine built solely for games, and what games! The way people bang on about the Dreamcast - yes, it was great, I unlike a lot of the trolls owned one from launch, the Gamecube will for my money be far more fondly remembered and sought after in a year or two.

Yui_Suzumiya4127d ago

Eternal Darkness, RE Remake.. So yes, I agree

DC7774127d ago (Edited 4127d ago )

The RE remake was awesome and graphically far superior to anything at the time. I have owned most consoles but my platinum gamecube is still my favorite. Hell it looked like a modern day LAN party pc. Extremely well built machine.

http://www.google.com/searc...

Chrischi19884127d ago

Thank you for your post, it really shows, that some people still think. It is funny, how even all the haters disagree with each other, but all have the solution, it is always a different one, but as you said, they think it is bad, because nintendo lives in the past, but then we get articles like that one, which basically is begging for it...

N4g_null4126d ago

Isn't the ngc the reason we are seeing games that do not appeal to the mass market gamer. Sure they had some great games but the games worth having where perfected on the wii game play wise even dk got better. 3d mario got way better. Any game play idea was better just due to the extra power. Yet 3rd party needs to go back to that era. Every since things became 3d the game play went down hill.

RosweeSon4127d ago

People always throw the oh nintendo recycle all their old stuff, it's utter guff, sure mario one and the old classics have come out on countless systems (sonic1/sega not exactly an angel it's been out everywhere) but they are more for younger people to experience older classics nintendo don't ask you to keep rebuying the same game, although if it's good enough which when were talking nintendo is pretty much always I have no problem, people say they churn out the same games yearly, nintendo have been doing games best part of 30 years and yet were on mario kart 8! Yes 8 not 15 not 25 8!! Sure there's lot of mario platformers but they are all different and pretty unique unless it's the same series ie new super mario bros, but mix it up play a galaxy, a 3d land/world and then a new super bros, but one thing that you can never accuse Nintendo off is a lazy rehash, 9/10 they are spot on with the games and the gaming world would be lost without them.... D-pad nintendo, face buttons as we have them these days... nintendo, shoulder buttons... Nintendo, rumble nintendo analogue sticks nintendo, the wii might well be ridiculed but without it kinnect wouldn't have been thought of neither play station move, nintendo move this gaming world on while the rest just wanna rest on their laurels, at least the games I'll be playing on my wii u are fresh brand new experience's, halo has just been announced for a big e3 reveal, I can tell you now it's a remake of number 2, wow! Just what I wanna go and buy a brand new console for... A 10 year old remake, pass!

RosweeSon4127d ago

If it ain't broke ie mario and zelda don't fix it, sure we all like changes here and there but the fact the zelda games alone take a good 2-3 years or so if not more (although they've pumped a few out recently 2 on DS one on 3DS, skyward sword wii and wind waker remake, surely new wii u one in next year or so, E3 reveal me thinks) but Nintendo always take a lot of thought into consideration, something that's doesn't show on the yearly iterations of call of duty, sure was great to start with but after 4 or 5 years of the same yearly update it's nearly as bad a FIFA, I like both series I have FIFA 14 on ps4 didn't bother with call of duty ghosts this year I normally always bought them for at least a rinse through the campaign but the fact this one came out in the middle of a new generation of consoles I would have thought they could have afforded a year off and come back with something special now they are on a 3 developers cycle I feel for the first team as they are gonna just get backlash, probably why they've hired sledgehammer so they can take a beating and the main dev's have the extra year but my days off cod are long gone haven't got the time for it these days and FIFA is ok in small doses but depending on which system you purchase on it can be a real half assed attempt of a game sometimes with half the modes or teams, something you've very very rarely be able to throw at nintendo, hey ho buy a wii U don't buy a wii u but you'll be missing out not only on a chance to reply the classics but also to play some of the most vibrant new and innovative games you'll see on any system.. Your loss!

RPG_Lover4127d ago

Sorry but this article is generalized, factless and quite shortsited.

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai9d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv729d ago (Edited 9d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX9d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK9d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog8d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor8d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje9d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra9d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje8d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac9d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex8d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje8d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter7d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake9d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos9d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire869d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos9d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire868d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr8d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire868d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa239d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos9d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker9d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg8d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake9d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr8d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B9d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

Company skipped last year's event.

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Obscure_Observer29d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj27d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.

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Nintendo Predicts to Sell 15 Million Switch 2 by March 2026; Switch Has Sold 152.12 Million Units

Nintendo has announced its financial results for the full fiscal year, alongside an update to Nintendo Switch shipments and more data, including a prediction for Switch 2 hardware and software.

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gold_drake40d ago

well, the switch 2 has two holidays in the us, thanksgiving and Christmas.

so id say its fairly possible. the rest of the world will also grab them

Abriael40d ago

Yeah doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility as long as they have enough supply.

Si-Fly40d ago

Do people buy each other games consoles for Thanksgiving? I’m in Europe and always assumed it was just Christmas where gifts were exchanged.

Skate-AK40d ago

I don't think it's so much Thanksgiving, but that Black Friday is the day after.

darthv7240d ago (Edited 40d ago )

That time is often referred to as the start of the Xmas shopping season. For the last few years, retailers would do 'black Friday' deals at various times throughout the year. While many still prefer to start their shopping in the mid to late November, others will just buy when they feel the time (and prices) are right for them.

gold_drake39d ago

i guess its more black friday, should have been more clear ha

GotGame81839d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Thanksgiving kicks off the Christmas Holiday.

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Agent7540d ago

Switch and Switch are a different kettle of fish. A sell out at launch by the diehards, strong sales, then the non diehards will be put off by the £75 ($99) games, including the stupid download cards which are topping £65 ($85). Not rocket science to work out how the Switch 2 is going to pan out. The PS5 has sold well, but games at £70, sales have been low. As game sales drop, prices will rise. Sony could knock out all their games for £40 and still make a killing selling more games. There's no denying that a gaming crash is looming.

Rancegamerx39d ago

I agree, I don't see the Switch 2 selling anywhere near the numbers that these predictions suggest or what the general buzz is implying. While the initial sales will likely be strong, driven by diehard fans, I anticipate a gradual decline. It may not drop off immediately, but over time, sales will inevitably taper.

PRIMORDUS39d ago

Not paying for something that's not worth more than the price it was advertised, which is $449 - $499.

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