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Interview: Bethesda's Pete Hines on the legacy of Wolfenstein and the ESO subscription model

CVG: In his role as VP of PR and marketing at Bethesda, Pete Hines has helped ship some of the company's biggest games, including The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim and Fallout 3.

While the company remains coy on the inevitable announcement of Fallout 4, Bethesda will ship three titles this year: Wolfenstein: The New Order, The Evil Within and The Elder Scrolls Online. All are interesting for the way they seem to shirk conventional publishing wisdom in 2014: one is a single-player FPS, another is a survival horror game and the last is a subscription-based MMO.

In the interview, conducted during a recent Wolfenstein preview event in Sydney, we touch on Bethesda's willingness to pursue genres and models the rest of the industry is avoiding, the legacy of the Wolfenstein IP, and whether any new titles are set to be announced in 2014.

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ArchangelMike3710d ago

With the subscription model, I understand that you need to pay devs to work on content. That's only fair. But a subscription model that's more that say 4.99 a month is too much for most on a console. Simply because the age demographic is for consoles is less than PC. For the PC crowd, yeah 8.99 a month or something like that is acceptable because of the age demographic. There are more mature gamers on PC than on consoles. In most cases it's mom and dad who bought 'new-must-have-console' ; for little 'COD' Bobby.

In anycase, it's a fair point that already having to pay a subscription for online gaming on consoles means that you have to pay twice-monthly for console MMO's which is just not cool by any standard.

Volkama3710d ago

I think the age demographic for consoles, and particularly the new consoles, may be quite a lot higher than you perceive it to be.

thereapersson3710d ago

I'm super stoked for Wolfenstein because it's been a long time since we have had a promising-looking single-player only first person shooter that mixes in the old school "waves of enemies" gameplay. The last game I played that I enjoyed of this nature was Hard Reset on PC, even though many panned it because it was considered a bit rudimentary.

Grimhammer003710d ago

The sub model here is ludicrous! Unless the game was free out of the gate. $69+$14.99/month+live if that's your console....its far too much!
Especially since there are and will be more options for this game type.

And, just to be thorough...ESO doesn't have a hook that I can see. Why say would I get this over deep down on ps4? Or is this a last gen only? Then ds2 is far better choice!

Volkama3710d ago

This is a really good interview actually. It's rare to read anything from a publisher that doesn't
a) make your skin crawl
b) leave you concerned about the direction of the industry.

This guy comes across very well, and I will certainly subscribe to TESO if they can deliver on these plans.

-Mika-191d ago

Im glad he leaving. Bethesda has been terrible under his leadership. Redfall, Starfield, Fallout76 and the list goes on an on. His leadership style is outdated. Hopefully, MS bring someone in that knows what they are doing.

RhinoGamer88191d ago

I will give you Fallout 76, but Redfall and Starfield's blame needs to fall somewhat on the terrible Xbox publishing team. With all their resources and supposed smarts...they fungled it.

VenomUK191d ago

@Mika He’s the communications guy - you can’t blame him for the quality of the product.

jznrpg191d ago

Maybe they can go to their earlier purchases for replacements . Like Rare devs , Gear devs or 343, one of the very few studios they built up and man they are great.

Crows90191d ago

That could work ...if MS knew what they were doing themselves ...

But let's be real. Xbox was in charge of redfall and Starfield. They just don't know what a good game looks like.

RhinoGamer88191d ago

I interviewed at Bethesda once, and while there were some very smart mid level team members, the upper ranks (EP/VP/Studio Head) were a total boys' club. The Madmen series ego in that lunch was stiffling.

RhinoGamer88191d ago

I interviewed at Bethesda once, and while there were some very smart mid level team members, the upper ranks (EP/VP/Studio Head) were a total boys' club. The Madmen series ego in that lunch was stifling.

generic-user-name191d ago

Pete Hines was against locking out the majority of their console playerbase (ps gamers). Probably disgusted at the hypocrisy of white knight Phil assuring PS gamers that they can still play COD. Acquisition goes through, Hines goes out.

Goodbye Pete.

gold_drake191d ago

i wonder if he was asked to leave.

im pretty sure not everyone was on board with the acquisition.

Profchaos191d ago

Pretty much everyone outside of Todd has made snide comments against the acquisition but money talks

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Pete Hines on Starfield: 'We could make a safer, less buggy, less risky game if we wanted to'

The number one game development doctrine: It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

jznrpg234d ago

What risks were taken? Space travel? Entire planets ? Vehicles for planets? Smart AI? Don’t see any risks taken

bababooiy234d ago

Exactly, this game has 0 innovation. Everything has already been done before here, by Bethesda themselfs no less. Years back when Todd was showing off Skyrim going "see that mountain. you can go there" actually sounded impressive becouse you knew it ment you could literally walk straight up that mountain, no loading screens nothing! Now we have gone backwards.

Seraphim234d ago

Just more Hines blowing smoke up the ass of people.

notachance233d ago

He fits right in with MS with their overhyped catchphrase. Phil, Pete, and Todd Howard should host a talkshow because they’re clearly the experts on having interviews.

idk if it’s the difference between japan and west culture but Nintendo and Sony employees are practically radio silent compared to them..

jwillj2k4234d ago (Edited 234d ago )

The only risks taken were in the exploration lies told when advertising. This is basically Bethesda’s take on Mass Effect 1.

yeahokwhatever233d ago

thats exactly what this game is. a fallout 4 mass effect mod.

Redgrave234d ago

"If we wanted to"

So.... you.... haven't wanted to prior to now?

Kaze88233d ago

Exactly :D if this comment from Hines should have been an W, it totally wasn't. Telling your customers that you did not care enough before does not make you any better now. Only when your boss aka MS ass was on the line you cared. What an idiot.

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Bethesda's Pete Hines Says Redfall Will Be a Good Game Eventually, Compares It to Fallout 76

Bethesda Softworks publishing head Pete Hines has reassured players that Arkane isn't giving up on Redfall, despite its lukewarm reception on launch earlier this year. In fact, he's confident it will be a good game people want to play on Game Pass ten years from now.

Sciurus_vulgaris236d ago

Redfall will likely not have the same level of long-term of support as Fallout 76. I doubt Redfall is popular enough to warrant several years of support and updates.

DarXyde234d ago

Yeah, I think Microsoft is done with that experiment. Honestly, I would be quite surprised if the 60fps patch comes at all anymore. It's such an afterthought at this point.

thesoftware730234d ago

Why would you be surprised?

"Okay, we didn't get the start we wanted, but it's still a fun game… and we're going to keep working on it. We're going to do 60fps. We're going to get it to be a good game because we know, as a first-party studio, Game Pass lives forever."

This is directly from the article...he is telling you it's coming.

DarXyde234d ago

thesoftware370,

Isn't it obvious?

I don't believe anything they're saying. When I see it... If I see it... Then it happens.

S2Killinit234d ago

This is MS they just say things. They dont have to be based on reality.

Snookies12236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

It should have been a good game coming out the gate... I get that not all games are going to be winners. But, at the very least, make sure it's decent before releasing. Especially with a huge company like Bethesda backing it. Not to mention Arkane had a great reputation before this. It's one thing for an indie title not meeting expectations. It's another entirely when you're supposed to be backed by a huge player in the industry.

cleft5234d ago

Starfield released without an FOV slider... I don't think listening to anyone from Bethesda is a good idea.

Jin_Sakai236d ago

It’s already dead Jim. Just like Halo Infinite.

People have moved on to better games.

coolbeans236d ago

-"Just like Halo Infinite."

To say this with such confidence suggests you don't get called out enough on bad takes.

jjb1981234d ago

Halo Infinite is dead though.

Abear21234d ago

More people play Risk on Steam than Halo

ChasterMies234d ago

Halo Infinite is so forgettable that N4G has been flooded with articles saying Starfield is the first big Xbox exclusive this generation, the savior of Xbox, and the kickoff to Xbox’s exclusives. Hype meets reality.

coolbeans234d ago (Edited 234d ago )

-"Halo Infinite is dead though."

These responses have to either be delusional or deliberately disregarding the context to which I'm responding. Just to be clear, you understand Jin literally parallels Spedfall (that's still waiting on an 60fps patch) to a game who's just had a recent seasonal update and another (Season 5) scheduled for Oct, right? You can't even pretend like that's on "life support" compared to what Pete Hine's saying here with Redfall.

-"More people play Risk on Steam than Halo"

Even if that were true, which it's not ( https://steamdb.info/app/11... ), you're forgetting an entire online platform to make your argument, Poindexter. Do better.

-"Halo Infinite is so forgettable that N4G has been flooded with articles saying Starfield is the first big Xbox exclusive this generation, the savior of Xbox, and the kickoff to Xbox’s exclusives."

Just so I'm clear about this: 'gamez jurnalizm' (or at least a big collection of that field), the same group who've constantly been personified as unethical hype-mongers for big companies, hyping up another game as THE NEXT BIG THING is going to be your proof of this? How convenient.

Also, part of what you stated doesn't even diminish Infinite's status: "first big Xbox exclusive [of/for] this generation" works in Starfield's scenario since Infinite is a Xbox One, Series, & PC game. That language could just as easily be emphasizing a 9th-gen game from a cross-gen game.

Profchaos234d ago

Only the hardest of the hardcore still believe

BlackTar187233d ago

Cool beans that is some legendary orange glow level of cope. Well done

coolbeans233d ago

-"Only the hardest of the hardcore still believe"

Although I still think you're diminishing its reach, at least you're added fairer context.

-"Cool beans that is some legendary orange glow level of cope. Well done"

And that is one of the most vapid responses I could've expected. Congrats.

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TheColbertinator236d ago

Bad move. Fallout 76 is still awful and not at all beloved by the Fallout community.

thesoftware730234d ago

But Fallout 76 has about 14 million players ..

Somebody is playing it, you can't possibly think that is bad.

TheColbertinator234d ago

Millions of people also bought the PS5 even though the system sucks. Quantity is not always quality

XiNatsuDragnel236d ago

It's over Jim because f76 and red fall are cursed to be bad let's be honest.

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