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Is Titanfall the XB1′s Last Throw of the Dice?

After what can only be described as abysmal January sales figures for the Xbox One Microsoft must be hoping, nay praying, that Titanfall provides a massive and sustained sales boost for the console. We have seen in the last generation that three home consoles can live side by side and garner good sales, so why then at the start of this generation are Wii U and XB1 sales so terrible? Is the market shrinking or have Nintendo and Microsoft failed to create compelling products?

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Gazondaily2681d ago

No not at all. There's a lot more on the horizon.

But then again, Sony have held their cards close to their chest and they could potentially deliver a knock out blow. It's still early days. I think this year's E3 will speak volumes.

insomnium22681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

If Titanfall fails to do a serious bump into X1's sales it will be a serious thing.

Now that we've seen xbone's decline in sales in USA (as I predicted) there is only Titanfall before MS have got to drop either Kinect or price of the xbone. After the pricecut the xbox business is bleeding money like a mofo and I don't think there will be a next xbox. Balmer retiring really left the xbox business exposed and vulnerable to the vultures that is the investors.

Frankly I have no doubt Titanfall will be a good game and the sales of it will be great. The only and the biggest problem is that it is not exclusive to xbone. Making xbone THE only Titanfall console in the world would've been big. That is one BIG opportunity wasted MS. Seriously that is a big eff up if I ever saw one.

Gazondaily2681d ago

Well MS would have been conflicted. They assured PC fans that they would support the platform strongly. Not having Titanfall on PC would be a spit in the face of all PC gamers.

DeathOfTheFanBoy2681d ago

I have 2 friends who are buying xbox one's purely because they want to play Titanfall on release day, otherwise they were waiting for a price drop... I'm sure they aren't the only one's with a similar mindset.

Eonjay2681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

Well, considering that its the only exclusive (besides Project Spark) that has a tangible release window... the pressure is there. And it will remain there until at least E3. In US, there is hope, but globally, the game would have to shift over 1 million Xbox Ones just to keep up and withstand Sony launch in its third largest market this Saturday.

It would have to basically sell more copies than COD on Xbox One and pray that every PS4 exclusive flops and that the PS4 factories implode and stop producing units... for the rest of the year.

thereapersson2681d ago

Why don't we do what we did with the PS3 and... oh, I don't know... maybe have a little PATIENCE? The systems only launched a few months ago. The glut of killer-apps hasn't arrived yet for either the PS4 or the One, yet we are seeing end-of-generation-caliber articles for the new systems already.

To rely on any one game to determine the fate of a system this early in the current console race is really quite shortsighted, and just really bad form in general.

n4rc2681d ago

Can people stop with the "doom and gloom" crap..

These arent competing for the only spot available.. Sony selling more doesn't make Xbox a failure.. Its sold better then any Xbox before it so why now is it failing?

Simple answer..it isn't

I do t want to generalize and call people kids.. Tho it would make sense, but some of you just don't know how business works.. The fanboy mentality doesn't come into play

ManyFishToFry2681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

It is in Microsoft's best interest to keep PC gaming relevant and this game will not be on Steam (Valve is trying to push Linux instead of Windows). Home computers are on the decline and Microsoft Windows is still their bread and butter. Even though they likely won't get revenue from PC software sales most PC gamers still use Windows as their main operating system.

Suggesting this could be their last throw of the dice kinda of shows the way journalism has gone south. It's these types of headline news that garners most of the attention. Yes January sales were bad for the XBox One (and every other platform aside the PS4), but let's be honest here, they have sold over 3 million units in a matter of a few months. They also have a $500 system out there fighting against a $400 system and lots of software is still to come for the XBox One. This isn't the same situation as the Wii U with a lack of software.

harrisk9542681d ago

I think that Titanfall will sell XB1s... the question is how many. I don't think as many as MS is predicting. The 360 version comes out 2 weeks later.

Nocando2681d ago

I agree, that would have been money well spent. Then again, how do we know MS didnt try and go that route and were turned down? I have to admit that the XB1 being thoroughly thrashed in every market gives me an uneasy feeling that this could be curtains for the Xbox brand.

Nine_Thousaaandd2681d ago

I agree, that fact 360 and PC owners can purchase it as well, Titanfall won't push X1 sales much further. Should have made it completely exclusive to X1...they eff up big time, and yet another dumb move my Microsoft. And then, the parity between all 3 platforms, no reason to drop $500 to play a $60 game with possible microtransactions, if you own a 360 and PC.

Kribwalker2681d ago

@eonjay
There's also plants vs zombies garden warfare out in a week which is fantastic. I've game tested it a few times and it's brutally fun. Think of team fortress 2 character customization levels with insanely fun gameplay

HaveAsandwich2681d ago

i know i said it before, but if titanfall can't move an ms console, than what can.

Death2681d ago

I know ignorance is bliss, but this is absurd. The Xbox One is selling very well. The PS4 is selling better currently, but that doesn't make everything else a failure.

SITH2680d ago

Do this sony kids. Everything you said about the ps3 doom crap, apply it here with Xbox one.

insomnium22680d ago (Edited 2680d ago )

@sith

Considering the track record MS has there is actually merit to bring these points up unlike it was with PS3.

MS made their bed with the DRM fiasco. There's no way to get that trust back. No way to recover from that. Sony never did anything similar. They were cocky for sure and brought a 600 dollar console to the market but they actually lost money (200usd) with each console sold so.,....

Death2680d ago

Still with the DRM? All consoles use DRM. The original plans for the Xbox One allowed users to rip all their retail disc based games to the HDD and not need them in the drive for verification (a form of DRM). Instead of using the disc to verify you owned the game, your library was compared with the library you had registered with the Live servers. This prevented people from ripping rentals and their borrowed games from friends. The verification was done once every 24 hours. That is what you are so scared of. Instead we do just like we did in the early 90's and place the disc in the drive when we want to change games.

sinspirit2680d ago

@Death

You mean you are paying full price for what the point of a PC is, without the lower cost games that a PC has? And you must have a 24-hour check-in on top of that? And you can't remove the hdd to replace it in case you run out of space on your mandatory DRM system? And the system is already so big I doubt anyone wants to have an external hdd taking up even more space.

Is it hard for you to switch discs? Why are you complaining when most games are going to have a digital download anyways? If you don't want discs you have either option rather then one option. If I'm going to have discs then let me use them like expected. If I want a download then I'll download it. It's not like the discs weren't going to be much more then just access to the digital download anyways. They should have just made you swipe a card onto the system if they were going to make you go out of your way to insert a disc every time when discs aren't necessary for that method.

DoubleM702680d ago

It's one thing people don't realize is that the PS brand always sales good it normal. Even the $599 PS3 sold well seven years ago.

I just don't get when people say XB1 exclusive. Microsoft supports 3 platforms. XB1, 360 and PCs. They all run off Microsoft OS. They make money off all 3 platforms.

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MarioAna2681d ago

I agree but "on the horizon" means that between now and then the gap could become alarmingly large. And big gaps in sales could affect 3rd party offerings and hamper MS ability to create deals like they have in the past with early DLC etc. At the very least they would have to pay more for such deals and that's not what the division needs at all.

gamertk4212681d ago

To some degree, but those exclusives have happened before, and Microsoft is not shy about ponying up the cash when they come across the proverbial golden goose. I don't know how the WiiU situation can even be compared to the Xbox. Let's give it a year and re-assess shall we? BTW, I own both XB1 and PS4, but no WiiU, and they are both fine machines.

SmielmaN2681d ago

That's correct. If third party debs have loose exclusivity agreements they may be able to change them prior to launching their game. I doubt any developer wants to be in the Bayonetta 2 situation where you make a chunk of change for exclusivity but lose waaaaaay more because there aren't many systems out there to support your game.

Blaze9292681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

Lol @ this submission's description

"After what can only be described as abysmal January sales figures for the Xbox One"

o_O?

http://news.xbox.com/2014/0...

"We are incredibly humbled and proud to see Xbox One continue to be the best launch of an Xbox in our history."

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"so why then at the start of this generation are Wii U and XB1 sales so terrible?"

o_O?

"Comparatively, Xbox One consoles have sold at a rate of 2.29 times faster than Xbox 360 in the U.S. in the same timeframe for the first three months on the market."

"January NPD Group figures released today revealed Xbox* sold the most games across all console platforms in January with 2.27 million units sold, making up 47 percent of software market share."

http://news.xbox.com/2014/0...

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47% software market share? Damn near half? From Xbox ALONE?

lol I'm not sure why people, erm, "journalist" keep seeming to think Microsoft is hurting or in a bad position when this is in fact, the best Xbox launch of their entire history. If anything, aren't they on track for doing very good business?

What exactly is the problem here with them doing everything better than before, at a $499.99 higher price point than any competitor? Isn't this, GOOD news and GOOD standing for Microsoft?

unless of course if you all seem to think being in #1 place, is what classifies as "good business" for a corporation. Investors: "You've made $1,000,000,000 dollars since launching Xbox One but my god if you aren't in first place, you have failed!"

n4rc2681d ago

Yup.. Making $1,000,000,002 suddenly steals all your competitors revenue apparently.. Lol

I'd love to know what all these people do for a living to have such a twisted view of the business world..

reaperofsouls2681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

is the Xbone now the Abone since amazon is buying it

Blaze9292681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

@CapraDemon - "is the Xbone now the Abone since amazons buying it"

and this, is why rumors need to stop being posted. Gullible people actually believing it.

n4rc2681d ago

Considering ms themselves called it ridiculous, which it is... I would have hoped that stupid rumor wouldn't catch on

HolyDuck2681d ago

The embarrassing and sad thing is that people post rumours, and then other people think using rumours as an insult is insulting, which it really isn't because the rest of us know it's a rumour. Bless them.

cyber_daemonx2681d ago

@Blaze, the way the bone is selling at the moment, it may well be more than a rumour. Watch this space....

Might as well rename it the ex-bone lol.

SmielmaN2681d ago

Ok, the rumors of selling off Xbox are true as they were reported last year by a business site (if someone cares to find the website please post).

MS will vehemently deny this as it would be a huge black eye to their brand and potential loss of sales and/or stock price and possibly exclusive deals they may be working on.

Also, MS needed to dominate at least one market which is why they focused so hard at North America for stock and available tv features. Now that they have lost that initial big start they were hoping for in NA and are being outsold almost 2-1 by their direct competitor you can bet the ppl holding the big shares of stock are saying "why are we investing so much money in something that doesn't bring back the returns we want?" I think you just have to look at the changes the Xbox brand was making towards the last couple years of 360: 1) kinect and obvious huge focus on casual market because of Nintendos Wii success. Relying on 3rd party developers to release quality games and just paying for times exclusive DLC. 2) xbone trying to bring in a digital shift and DRM stranglehold. If not for serious backlash by their core consumers they wouldn't have changed. This tells me they didn't want the consumer to physically have software that could be transferable without paying them again. Is that because they didn't want to pay Sony for Blu ray tech/supplies? Or just be able to control all content completely so your basically paying $60 to rent a game? I'm not sure. 3) investment made into purchasing Kinect outright and thinking that it is the future of gaming. 4) focus on trying to provide tv service.

To me that looks like someone there doesn't know what the real identity or focus of the Xbox is and they are trying to latch onto fads or gimmicks. Kinect is a Smart tv style app to me, in regards to tv control, and a toy for children that can't operate a controller. There have been many changes over the last year or so withing the Xbox division, with regards to personnel, and that's not a good sign. So if the xbone fails to meet internal goals then they will revisit their shareholders option of selling off the division and recouping a large amount of money and focus on another market. To think that because a company has money that they are willing to keep investing a billion dollars to make 5-10%?

You have to think about what they have put out. 1.2 billion for the rrod deal, constantly spending on DLC that is proving to not be effective in swaying ppl from PS products, now the titanfall exclusivity. Let's think how a company would price a exclusive deal: before PS4 is released EA gets the money hat from MS to keep it off PS platforms. So, how much would a company want to not sell it's game to 80+ million ps3 and a ??? pS4. 50-100 million? Now let's say within the first 6 months ps3 sold 3.5 million titanfalls at $60 ($210 million) and if it came out for PS4 maybe 1 million ($60 mill). So, what sense did it make for EA to make that deal? At this point, it looks absolutely stupid unless MS paid about half of that. And if MS paid $130 mill for exclusivity that's the cost of a few AAA games. How much sense does that make? This is what investors look at, and the lost sales by staying a third party exclusive is what EA will be looking at. Just some good for thought, so whoever wants to PM me now with their trolling can be sure that I will read it, laugh, and ignore you lol

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Edsword2681d ago

It's all about market share though if the PS4 continues to out sell the XB1 by 2:1 it won't be long before MS cannot lock down 3rd party exclusives and might even lose some bigger titles, especially from JP developers. The longer PS4 out paces XB1 sales the harder it will be to turn that trend around. Sony was able to beat MS in worldwide sales last gen, but there is little to no chance for the XB1 to do that. Simply put, Europe is nearly lost and JP is definitely lost for the XB1 already. On the surface it may seem like a stretch to say the XB1 could fail, but if you really look at what is happening, it's not such a stretch at all. MS has to at least match PS4 sales stateside soon or it's going to be a very tough upwards climb from here on out. Enter Titanfall, the first really big "exclusive" for the XB1. MS is hoping this game turns around the trend sooner than later. Obviously if the game sales a few million on XB1 and a significant and sustained bump in sales results then the goal is accomplished. However, I just don't see that happening with the game on 360 and PC. I might be wrong, but I don't think Titanfall is going to turn around fortunes for the XB1.

DC7772681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

I agree with Ed here. This isn't Ninty with a ton of 1st party exclusives. The 360 sales will keep people from upgrading if they can get the same game graphics or not. I don't think all this beta footage helps either as it looks like an OP COD and I don't see that not becoming boring quickly.

Unlike PC and NWU XB1 competes directly with Sony for 95% of the exact same software sales. Competing with your own last gen console just makes it that much worse.

Ra30302681d ago

You say......."There's a lot more on the horizon"
What moves does Microsoft have? They do have some great games but that's not working so far. Removing the Kinect would just be a way of saying "yes everyone was right it was only a gimmick". And a slap in the face to all who layed down $500 plus tax for the real X1. Remove the disk drive? That's I think is a bad move and they would be beaten up daily by Sony fanboy saying "we told so! DMR, this is what they wanted in the first place" . Not to mention you'd lose blu ray play which you really need if your a all in one media play for the living room. They really can't cut the price making around $18 per sell at the $500 price. Maybe I'm wrong about Titanfall being a console seller but I just don't see it and if that's what Microsoft wanted and we all know it was it was insane to release it on the 360 and PC. It's just a bad move. Microsoft will get little if any boost in sales when the releases in the markets they have yet to do so in. If we break down the sales for the X1 to this point we'll find that of the 3.5 million "which is great" IMO. But we'll find most of that number comes from the first 5 weeks. All the X1 hardcore fans got it at launch or by Xmas since then sales have been flat and in business this is more than a little problem with share holders in the board room. What plays do they have? I'm not looking for a debate I just want to hear what people have to say. I think if things don't change and soon I really think Microsoft will sale off the gaming division. And that might be a good thing for the X1 idk.

cyber_daemonx2681d ago

Spot on. Now the core fans have bought it, sales have dropped off sharply, as was expected. The Kinect is the albatross round the neck and the price is the concrete overcoat so to speak. Bit like the WiiU really. What can M$ do? Looks like they are in a hell of their own making.

kingdip902681d ago

It being tax return time in America will bump xbox sales. I am sure microsoft will attribute that to titanfall as most gamers will buy that given the option. Whether the rise in hardware numbers continues beyond this next month or two will be the big question.

creatchee2681d ago

@Septic

There is no single game that could be released on any console that could be a "knockout blow". That's not how gaming works.

Akuma072680d ago

COD exclusive to one console would definitely be a knock out blow.

Akuma072680d ago

But nothing with anywhere near the levels of hype that Titanfall has.

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Kevlar0092681d ago

Titanfall isn't exclusive to X1 so I don't believe it will have the impact many expect (certainly not the potential of something like Mario Kart 8 on WiiU).

Not that it won't be influential, but there are a lot of 360's and PC's already in place

Ju2680d ago

I agree. It will improve sales. But at same time, I don't think it will have that much of an impact. PS4 will get inFamous and Drive Club as well. I can't see how MS can bounce back. A more expensive and less powerful console will be a hard sell. It might have it's moments - Titanfall being one of it, Halo another - but in the long run, Sony will always be the better and cheaper machine.

KwietStorm_BLM2681d ago

Were Xbox sales really that bad? I was under the impression that it's selling well, just not comparable to PS4. What were the actual numbers?

nutcrackr2681d ago

Supposedly 141k for xbone in January. This compares with the ps3, ps4, 360 which were about 250k first January after release.

GenericNameHere2681d ago

To put it to perspective, the PS4 sold NEARLY HALF Xbox One's sales. To put it to another perspective, the Xbox 360 sold LESS than the Wii U. I ask, which is more shocking and unexpected? Also, I forgot to mention this is NPD, aka US numbers. I'll give you a moment for this occurrence to process completely in your head. I forget the exact numbers, but NeoGAF had it in their NPD results thread for January.

The PS4 by itself beat the Xbox*. Might we have another PS2? Too early to tell, but the signs are there.

Anyways, as for Titanfall, I have no doubt it will help boost Xbone sales. I predict ~500K Xbone's sold for the entirety of March in the US. Titanfall for just Xbone at... ~880K. For the Xbox 360 version, ~750K? I personally think the Xbone version is gonna outsell the Xbox 360 version, just because of that one week delay, plus the constant push on the Xbone.

If for some reason, Titanfall isn't the "REVOLUTIONARY" and "GAME-CHANGING" game the media has been touting it as, and it fails to sell 1M on both Xbox 360 and Xbone combined, then I'll be darned. Cross out Titanfall on the Xbone chalkboard, and wait for the next "*insert game here* will save the Xbone!".

PS I'll save this prediction. If I'm way off, I'll give someone bubbles. I hope I am able to predict better than Pachter can.

mkis0072681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

I don't think it would be possible for the 360 version to be outsold by the xbox one version. You are talking 80 million consoles vs 3.2 million...Even with it's delay I would bet 360 version outsells it for the month just on sheer numbers alone.

Now what makes wonder is if the 360 version could entice someone to double dip and sell them on upgrading to xbox1...

That lack of " I have to buy an xbox one to play this game I really want" is troubling though. It will boost sales at the very least...by how much?

BG115792681d ago

How could they be bad, there are only 2 next-gen consoles in the market right now.
That is why it is a problem.
47% in the Us may not seem bad. But people are not taking account major factors here. The PS4 has a limited stock release, yet it still sells more (double per weak) and without a major game.
People could speak of the profit, but there is also the fact that MS is pouring money in order to compete with the PS4 through exclusives, very costly exclusives.
The Steamboxes should start to come out this year. We could see the Xbone in the same situation as the 360 but this time with the Steamboxes and without the ROD. That have to have enough sales numbers before that happen or else they could have the same situation as for the WiiU. Okay, I'm exagerating for this last part...

Reeze2681d ago

Correction, there are three CURRENT-gen consoles in the market right now.

We are in the 8th generation; that means it's current.

And two consoles? Come on. Don't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy.

hkgamer2681d ago

Definitely not, but this game should be what improves its sales. I think if it doesnt help xbone outsell the out of stock PS4 that month or 2 then the xbone will be in trouble this year.

Just saying for the year, MS and Sony has a long way to go.

Bathyj2681d ago

No, thats alarmist. I think Titanfall will be a huge game, probably this gens Gears of Wars saleswise. Their only problem is those sales will be shared out over 3 consoles but it will still sell Xbones, its very much aimed at their target demographic.

I admit though, if its not huge even MS will start to hear the warning bells. They need it to be big.

AnEwGuY2681d ago (Edited 2681d ago )

Keep in mind, by the time Titanfall releases, we're only a few short months from E3...where I'm sure they'll reveal the next Halo, as well as other exclusives they've been sitting on. The people who've been calling MS/X1 things like "finished", "dead", etc. , are the same people who foolishly thought the same thing about Sony, after their horrendous PS3 launch, or the 360's RROD fiasco. I'm actually seeing Sony as being vulnerable, since they've not had a consistent physical presence at retail since launch. To average consumer, it might look like the X1 is the "only game in town".

Ricegum2681d ago

Haha just no. It's funny because I've noticed the opposite, never a mention of the Xbox One. People know what to expect with Sony. They are keeping their cards close. Sony's PS4 is selling amazingly pretty much on muliplatform games alone, which says a lot. So when their AAA games are released, expect some pretty big numbers. People say that Microsoft can turn it around with their heavy hitter exclusives, but ignore the fact that Sony obviously have their own big exclusives.

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