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Does the DualShock 4 need a quality and design revision

Darryl Linington from ITF Gaming writes: Let’s face it, the PlayStation 4 console is a major powerhouse when it comes to gaming; however, the DualShock 4 seems to be getting a lot of criticism lately. The battery life is shocking, the analogue sticks can’t seem to handle vigorous gaming sessions, and the L1 & R1 buttons tend to feel like they have a piece of bubble gum slotted in behind them.

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ape0074165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

the ps4 is a huge improvement over DS3 but i have one problem.....the analogue position, the position make pressing R2 and L2 a bit awkward, xbox one and 360 stick position goes very well with the trigger position,other than that, the ps4 controller is awesome and sticks accuracy is spot on

again no fanboy attempt, i love my ps4 more than X1 at the moment

OC_MurphysLaw4165d ago

I think this article is more about the build quality & materials along with the always on glow light bar vs the actual design / layout.

ape0074165d ago

yep i know but i don't have problem with that, i think the build quality is great

erathaol4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

From what I hear it would be nice if they made a v2 somewhere down the road. Mostly people wanting a meatier battery.

That way it lasts longer and it'll give the controller a little more weight, people say it could be a little heavier.

:)

No FanS Land4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

honestly I don't have a problem with the battery life, Owned a PS4 since launch day and I laughed when I held the DS4 for the first time, way better than DS3.
I honestly don't understand why sony would bundle the PSVITA TV with the DS3.

the DS4 does not need a redesign, its build quality is much stiffer than the DS3. the Ps3's controller feels like it's going to snap in half when you hold it tightly, you can hear it squeeze.

truefan14165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

All I'm going to say is at the time of this post, there was not one XB1 fan on this article spewing nonsense about the ps4 controller or trollishly (a new word) comparing the XB1 controller to the ps4 controller. Would I be able to say the same i this was an xbox article? I only commented to point this out, proceed with your conversation.

frostypants4164d ago

Just buy these if the sticks start to come apart:

http://www.amazon.com/Grip-...

XtraTrstrL4164d ago

@frostypants, I'm using the Grip-Its for my pair of DS4s right now. They're pretty good, but it'd be nice to have some made specifically for DS4 so it fits the indented design a bit better, but not a big deal, they serve their purpose in general.

All they need to do if they make a V2 to the DS4s is install a larger battery(2000+ mAh) and a better material for the analog sticks.

Ontop of the Grip-Its, I also ordered from eBay 2x 2000 mAh 3.65v batteries made specifically for the DS4. I haven't received them yet, but before I found those I ordered a 1800mAh 3.7v (bastards sent a 1200mAh) from Amazon that was made for DS3 that I was gonna use in the DS4, and instead I put it in one of my DS3s, and it has been at 3 bars for a while. When the other batteries come, and I switch out the DS4 batteries, I'll use one of those DS4 1000mAhs in my other DS3. And as long as none are duds, that'll answer all my DS4 issues for the moment.

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AcceptedWalnut4165d ago

I'm still getting cramp like I did with the DS3 when having to use L2 or R2 a lot in games (mainly Warframe)which is quite annoying as I thought the new design would reduce it.

The DS4, quality wise for me though has been perfect.

Retard4165d ago

*Battery life
*LED Options
*Better vulcanized rubber knobs

BoriboyShoGUN4164d ago

The only thing I have noticed is that my left stick is getting a little slick. What do you guys think of (rhino lining) that sucker???? But I did just see some rubber grip thingys on Amazon with great reviews so i guess i'll go that route :)

Knushwood Butt4164d ago

@ No Fan

The DS3 is cheaper for them to manufacture, and therefore more profitable.

I just actually reserved a blue DS4 (in Japan) to use with my Vita TV in the hope that it gets a compatibility patch (which I'm almost certain it will). The DS3 that I'm currently using with my Vita TV is a little bit screwy.

ThunderPulse4164d ago (Edited 4164d ago )

I've had 4 Dual Shock 4's all have the left side hinge break inside the R2 button which causes the button to stick which requires manual pushing to the normal R2 position. I'm getting really irritated having to keep getting it replaced at Wal-Mart for defects.

liquidhalos4164d ago

You broke 4 DS4's already? im sorry but i find that hard to believe, unless you throw them around in tantrums. I call lie

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jacksjus4165d ago

I personally think the DS4 is phenomenal. I'll accept being in the minority on this one.

sashimi4165d ago

i agree with you, sure it doesn't last as long as my DS3 but thats about it. I also haven't noticed any of the wear and tear people have mentioned tho.

zeee4165d ago

I'm with you but I think I also agree that the battery is not as good as ds3 and the light is annoying.

Riderz13374165d ago

You aren't in the minority. Many people have been saying it's the best controller they've ever used design wise, it's just the quality of things like the sticks that are hurting it.

Design wise? No, don't change it.

Quality Wise? Yes, change some things so they last longer.

Lord_Sloth4165d ago

I have to wait for Chrono Phantasma so I can put it through it's paces but so far I think it's great. XXXD

jcnba284165d ago

YES!

Improve the battery and remove the annoying and pointless move light.

MrSwankSinatra4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

rubber on the thubsticks, battery life and the triggers need to be re-engineered. the triggers feel like your're pressing marshmallows exactly like the ps3 controller, the rubber on the sticks is already coming off my controller and the battery life is a joke. on the PS3 the battery life lasted way longer.

Hicken4165d ago

The thumbstick issue seems to be... random, at best. Some people experience it with little usage, some don't experience it after heavy usage.

L2/R2 do not feel like the DS3. They're not as good as the DS2, but they ARE an improvement over the DS3.

And while the battery life may not be as phenomenal as the DS3(I could go 10+ hours on a single charge, easy), it's not atrocious.

Being a little melodramatic here.

MrSwankSinatra4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

dude you obviously don't know the definition of melodramatic. the article asks does the DS4 need revisions and i'm putting my two cents. the battery life is a joke i don't care what you're experience with the battery life, the general consensus agrees with me hence why they're telling sony to make a function to turn the light bar off to save battery life. the L2/R2 do in FACT feel like the DS3 triggers. that's not an opinion it's a FACT. anyone with half a brain can see that. sure the triggers are more ergonomic but that's all i'll give it. An the sticks need to be engineered with different rubber just because based of you experience you haven't had the same problem "MANY" have had doesn't make it okay by any stretch. if you don't like what i have to say do yourself a favor and disagree or don't comment at all, because i don't have the time to read your bullcrap excuses.

yezz4164d ago

mrswanksinatra

I agree with the battery life but the triggers are not similar with the DS3 ones..

BoriboyShoGUN4164d ago

The only thing swank is that LED doesn't draw that much power!! Dimming the LED is not going to give u anymore time. I myself have not had a battery issues, I just play for a few hours and sit the controller back in the charging station. As far as the sticks go, I have noticed my left stick is losing grip and getting a little slick, and I baby that mofo. I was thinking (rhino lining) the sticks but I just saw some grips an Amazon with great reviews for cheap so I guess i'll go that route ;)

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted2d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast2d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay2d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted2d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34852d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK2d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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Sony PS5 Era Profits Soar Past $13 Billion, Outpacing All Prior PlayStation Generations

Sony’s PS5 era has generated over $13 billion in profits, surpassing the combined earnings of PS1–PS4, with $136 billion in sales.

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lukasmain8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Their recent Playstation revenue is also more than Xbox and Switch combined, obviously in large part due to 3rd party sales.

Christopher8d ago

I mean, if Sony is keeping third parties happy, kind of feels like a winning method.

GamingExplained1017d ago

I mean they have to, since they have 2 exclusives anyone cared about this generation, and those are now on PC. The rest is this creatively bankrupt string of remakes and remasters, taking advantage of the creativity of developers past efforts, and laying off teams creative side since all that work has been done already by previous teams.

By far the least creative generation ever.

lukasmain7d ago

@ Gaming-NEW-Troll account

"those are now on PC"

In that case. Xbox is Playstation's competition. MS have ZERO exclusives. ZERO. Nothing. Nada. Not a single exclusive.

Playstation has Astrobot. Demon's Souls, Astrobot Playroom, Gran Turismo 7, still not going to PC. They got Death Stranding 2 coming out in 3 days, NOT ON PC. Ghost of Yotei, not on PC.

That is 6 real exclusives MORE than Microsoft. Microsoft's Xbox is Playstation's competition. So lets compare.

I mean you brought it up.

Or does being "creatively bankrupt" not count when you have certain console exclusives going to PC years after they were released? In that case Returnal. Ratchet And Clank. Spiderman. Miles Morales. Silent Hill 2. And the list goes on

IRetrouk8d ago

Kinda always been that way if you look at previous gens, exclusives are important but they aint the main revenue generator.

Reaper22_8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

.While that is impressive. Microsoft made 13 billion in one quarter. Making up facts doesn't make them true.

Mmmkay8d ago

microsoft is not xbox. a bot should know that by now. you have been told this bs 1000 times on this site alone.

OlderGamer178d ago

Yeah Microsoft but Xbox on the other hand.....

Aloymetal8d ago

Your defense of Microsoft is only highlighting Lord Phil's and the lame MS mismanagement. Since you're talking about MS as a whole, imagine having trillions in the bank and still losing to ''tiny'' Sony PS and Ninty. It doesn't get any more lame than that.

Christopher7d ago

If what Microsoft made as a whole was all that mattered, we would still have Windows Phones and Zunes. I would love to see Xbox' operating profits. Love to see it.

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thorstein8d ago

I prefer Playstation over Xbox when it comes to consoles but how does this news justify their layoffs?

Shane Kim8d ago

But the execs brother. You got to think about them. How could they otherwise buy yet another mansion and yacht?

raWfodog8d ago

People are generally paid for the work they are doing. Layoffs generally occur when there is no work for them to do (project cancelled, business slowing down, etc). I’ve been laid off from two jobs during my 40+ years of working so I know about these things. A company is not going to just keep paying people if there is no work for them to do, no matter how much profits they made.

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MIDGETonSTILTS178d ago

And this is why the game output for ps5 has been a tad slower…

1) they needed to be… games take longer to develop, and they’d burn out their teams trying to maintain the same pace as ps3.

2) they can afford to… games cost more than ever to push boundaries, so Sony had to figure out a way to match Xbox’s clever profit strategies in order to afford to continue to innovate and take risks.

lukasmain8d ago

So much time was wasted on those Live Service shits. Glad they learned their lesson and have scaled that way back. Still haven't killed it, but I like it being in the background and not at the forefront

MIDGETonSTILTS177d ago

Honestly, I love Helldivers 2 so much that I can forgive them for over investing in GaaS. At least they got one gem from the endeavor.

And I still dream of Factions releasing one day.

I don’t hate GaaS inherently, most are just implemented poorly.

Reaper22_8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@ s2killinit

Thats xbox which includes other services. The playstion division also includes other services as well. Its mostly playtion but not all playstation. What's up with all the double standards around here.

Chevalier8d ago

Yeah double standards like some idiots who got to talk about unrelated profits as a talking point. Wish those damn parrots could stay on topic with game related profits.

Next thing these idiots will talk about is something unrelated like Nintendo made more off the Mario movie than all of Xbox studios TV/movie endeavors combined you know?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Deathdeliverer8d ago

@Chevalier

Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number.

“The sales of windows professional on the other hand trounces god of war sales” 😂

Reaper22_8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is. Tencent is no.1 in profits. Buts that's ok because unlike Tencent and Microsoft, Sony isn't in it for the money, right.🤔

pwnmaster30007d ago

That’s what Xbox fanboys do. They’ve been doing this since Xbox one.

They will use all of MS, one of the biggest company in the world and play it like every dollar they earn comes from Xbox just to one up PlayStation.
Is actually pretty sad.

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Chevalier8d ago

"Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number."

Guys we're off topic here you know? Can someone bring us back on topic and tell us how much revenue Xbox studios does for movies and TV? Pretty sure we should also discuss how much Nintendo stands to make at Universal studios on Nintendo land and the rides should be a hot ticket this summer.

"Ouch! hahaha no wonder reaper wanna hide behind profits made by windows XD"

Yeah idiots with some sort of inferiority complex needs to get their win somewhere though. But wait shouldn't we get back on topic guys? Like seriously how much money do you think Fallout Season 2 will bring in?!

Reaper22_7d ago

Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts. At first the narrative was Microsoft isn't going to make the money back from the ABK deal to now their profits wouldn't be as high if they didn't get the deal. This very topic is part of the reason why the deal was secured. Sony's dishonesty and reluctance to tell the truth about how much money they're making and lying about how much this deal would hurt their business. That strategy failed. They're are making a lot of money. No doubt about it and its good for the industry but don't get butthurt when Microsoft post their profits and you guys see they are also making a lot of money as well.

CrashMania7d ago

@reaper.

Microsoft don't reveal Xbox profits, sales numbers, or gamepass numbers, I wonder why that is?

You call Sony dishonest but at least they don't hide and obfuscate meaningful playstation numbers like MS do with Xbox.

IRetrouk7d ago

Reaper stop lol, only one company hides that info and it ain't sony....

Chevalier8d ago

"All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is."

Nah all you did was confirm you're an idiot.

Reaper22_7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

You seem to be fluent in idiocy. Not everyone speaks it. So next time speak slowly and clearly so we all can understand. Getting emotional doesn't really make you smarter. Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says.🫡

Chevalier7d ago

"Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts"

🤡 What facts? 🤣

Please share with everyone your idiocy

What does Xbox make in revenue and profit? What are their sales? How much money does Gamepass cost them? Oh right you got ZERO numbers to post.

"Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says."

Says the idiot who can't even tell the difference between Microsoft and Xbox? Lmao. Seriously all you're showing everyone again is how much of an uninformed parroting idiot you are.

But go ahead and post your evidence! Oh right again ZERO from a ZERO. Absolutely 💯 hilarious to see you stumble like the idiot you are.

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Npugz78d ago

Only because of games prices otherwise it’s the worst generation in PlayStation history especially for games

Reaper22_8d ago

Thats true. The article did mention game and prices were a reason. Its also shows their greed is no different than Microsoft. Laying off all those people but yet bragging about profits and still tried to stop ABK deal. What the hell!

MatrixxGT8d ago

Closing studios, layoffs, leadership changes, PS plus increases, multiple game cancellations and delays, total flops like concord. Slowest release of first party games of any generation and they just shut down PS stars I guess because it was costing to much.
Yet they announce record profits…..the greed here is insane, MS and Nintendo too. All of them milking gamers and we just keep lapping it up like a blood hound for a meal.
Them tariffs are really hitting them hard I see.

Deathdeliverer8d ago

Well a part of running a business is a tight grip on that P&L sheet. In project management. It’s a known fact that the farther into a project you go, the more costly the corrections. Having something reach the definition of done, the end of the road, and it’s hated is a monumental loss of money. As games are usually made iteratively it’s like how was this not caught and course corrected several times before this point. Sony is definitely known as trusting and allows teams to make the games they want to make. They “trust the process”. The caveat to that big budget and freedom is if it bombs, especially if it’s your first game, you’re outta there. They have shareholders/stakeholders to keep happy. Where as normally a done game like Concord would give ROI as it was out in the wild. The cost of the project is recouped and turned into profit or delivered whatever value they wanted. If the game is now NOT coming out, how do they get that money back and stay profitable? By not paying wages for that team over a course of time that would have still been on payroll working on the next potential bomb, DLC for a dead game, and essentially costing more money.
It sadly isn’t greed, it’s business. They release these great profits because 1) it’s enticing for more stakeholders to invest, and 2) Despite failures they are still balancing the books and turning record setting profits.
How many live service games died at various stages of development? They are still this profitable? Imagine if the games came out and were hits to add onto the profits?

Christopher7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

So, you're saying that over $10B of this is from $10 to $20 software price increases? Zero to do with increased market reach? Massive MTX from third-party games?

Vithar8d ago

where are the "Sony is in trouble" sayers? LOL

Chevalier8d ago

They're talking about Microsoft quarterly profits like any true gamer would be doing.

Aloymetal8d ago

Oh, that's coming, it's a mandatory thing just wait for next gen and you'll see infinite articles from the shills and the green fanbase saying ''tHiS GeN WiL Be dIfFerEnT''

stonecold37d ago

over twitter xbox fanboy you tube are saying saying sony is broke cant afford warner bros.

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PlayStation The Concert Announces U.S.Tour Dates

The tour is coming to the states as new dates have been revealed.