Nope, Thief Still Not Confirmed to Run at 1080p on Xbox One

Hardcore Gamer: Earlier this afternoon, a QA Mastering Tech at Eidos seemed to confirm that Thief would indeed run at 1080p on Xbox One. It turns out, however, that it was mistakenly tweeted as Cadieux thought the conversation was about Tomb Raider -- a mistake that he has since publicly explained.

[NatureOfLogic]

Lmao, Xbox One is struggling to get 1080p games running. I guess Cboat was right after all.

[shoddy]

II'll bet a $100 that it'll run 1080p on ps4

[MadSientist89]

k gimi your paypal info..

[Ezz2013]

Eidos: "yes, it run at 1080p. but no it's not running at 1080p on xbox. yes i can confirm it's running at 1080p on xbox. lol,what? i was talking about Tomb raider not Thief."

My...head...hurts
http://gentlemint.com/media...

[FlameHawk]

I'm sure it will run 1080 too, but not native 1080.

[erathaol]

Looking like enough 1080p 3rd party games being made now that Microsoft can't easily go in and tell them to make them equal on both consoles.

Really why should the PS4 be nerfed for another consoles short comings?

:|

[GTgamer]

Looks let's be real Thief doesn't look amazing graphically so for it not to hit 1080p on the Xone would be bad then again COD didn't hit 1080p on the Xone either and that game is not graphically amazing either so I wouldn't be surprised :/.

[Sarcasm]

I raise you to $500 that it will be 1080p on PS4

[NeloAnjelo]

That $100 is reserved for Kinect :)

[Ultra]

MISTERX, MISTERC, and any other misterblabla are getting insecured about the resolution gate of xbone turns out to be true.

They are keep on thinking if there's a Mono Driver then it should be a "Stereo Driver" some day, who knows. LOLLL

[ProjectVulcan]

Which bit of Xbox One is not as powerful as PS4 is anyone not yet understanding at this point?

The sooner everyone accepts this the sooner you can forget about it and get back to the game content. Mainly because who really wants these articles still in like 2 years time saying the same thing?

Cos that's what will happen

[jimbobwahey]

Well Xbox One only has 32MB eSRAM, and that's just not enough to comfortably handle 1080p. Combine that with a GPU that's drastically weaker than the PS4's and that's why you have so many multiplatform games looking and running much better on PS4.

[Bigpappy]

You have no idea how eSRAM is used, so it is best you stop try to use it to try and make your point. eSRAM is actually used as a register between the total RAM and the GPU, so that the GPU can access the RAM with a wider bandwidth. I hope that was helpful to those of you who even know what I am talking about. Not everyone took digital design classes or read up on basic computer design. You are more likely to understand flops and bandwidth, and not have a clue about what is needed in chip design to get there.

[Guwapo77]

@Jimbobwahey

It has zero to do with the eSRAM the way you are explaining it. It has everything to do with the ROPs. ONE has 16 and PS4 has 32. Read the link I've included that will explain it clearly.

"The ROPs (render outputs/raster operations pipes) are responsible for final pixel output, and at the resolutions these consoles are targeting having 16 ROPs definitely puts the Xbox One as the odd man out in comparison to PC GPUs. Typically AMD’s GPU targeting 1080p come with 32 ROPs, which is where the PS4 is, but the Xbox One ships with half that."

http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

[adorie]

"Management has said it before and I will back it up, this is not a sprint -- it's a marathon. By E3 the true power of the Xbox One will be realized, make my words."

Ah! I think someone from Sony said this. Really?

[morganfell]

ESRAM will never solve the problem. Not now. Not ever.

http://i.imgur.com/N3iMLE1....

[adorie]

Morgan, that is probably the simplest way to explain both the X1 and PS4's approach to ram solution!

[morganfell]

@adorie, that was posted on Gaf and it just shows it so simply.

[pyramidshead]

I kinda like these sorts of drama issues because it squeezes out information that I don't think should be necessarily NDA'd of sorts. Why can't they just confirm the res and the frames rates here and now and aim for them instead of people finding out days before. Feel bad for people who pre-order stuff knowing that the edition they get is sub-par to the edition on the competing console.

Gonna be a very long year for XB1 gamers.

[BX81]

I agree it's good to know up front what the game is about and some tech aspects. As for some games being sub par, idk man. I play games not specs. Last gen I never looked at the back of a game box to see what the fps was or if it was running at 720p or 1080p. All of a sudden on this web site a game is less fun or not a good version because it's not 60fps and 1080p. It's sad that a uncharted 4 article just got posted and there is more pro Sony comments from people crap talking on Xbox one in theif articles than there are pro Sony people talking about uncharted 4. Ok I got away from my main point there, lol.
Edit: I also wanted to add, props to Sony for making a console easy to dev for.

[Flames76]

About like sony trying to make profit off the playstation brand since 2006.Lost over 5 billion on the PS3 and over 2 billion lost on the PSvita which is dead.Now losing $60 on every PS4 sold.Back to the graphics though.Ryse is the best looking game out on any platform no game on the PS4 can touch it and thats a fact.BF4 looks better on the X1 this was even confirmed by EA.Thief will be 1080p on the X1 no doubt

[liquidhalos]

Lol, Holy hell, troll bait much?

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Ahhhhh man. The game is going to be so much more fun now on the PS4 because of this. So much more fun.

[Twignberries]

No, I really don't care for this game much anyway. It's still going to look and run better though.

[core_5]

haha, the news battle begins ...

http://www.quickmeme.com/im...

[-Foxtrot]

Hmmmmmm I'd always like to see a gaming journalist battle or a games one in general.....like the international news fight in Anchorman 2

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Eurogamer
IGN
Gamespot
Destructoid
Edge
Joystiq
Computer and Video Games
Game Informer

...If only <sigh>

[MightyNoX]

Who would be the Police and break up the fight in that analogy?

:)

[imt558]

Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No!

But, here is the link :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[corvusmd]

Nope....still doesn't matter. There isn't a single game on XB1 that looks or runs bad and there's more to games than just paper numbers that don't actually show up on screen. If no one told you which was which and they were running side by side...just like all other games...you couldn't tell.

[jimbobwahey]

Hahaha, you're not fooling anyone. The difference between 1080p/720p and 60fps/30fps is night and day, don't be a chump.

[sashimi]

plus that xbox upscaler, crushing blacks and what not lol.

[rarity]

"There isn't a single game on XB1 that looks or runs bad" ok now i know that was a joke

[whoyouwit04]

Then name a game that looks bad, better yet name a game on PS4 that's worth picking up right now. my bad you can't, you people can threw numbers all you want, but if those numbers are the number of games worth playing then they are useless. check this out my PC does 240 hertz at a unstinting 3840 x 2160. Those are nunmbers worth throwing out there and by your own logig every game on PS4 look like horse shit.

[GTgamer]

@whyyouwit04
Lmao why you mad tho awwwwww that one bubble suits you well oh and its logic :).

[LeCreuset]

@whoyouwit04

Killzone, Knack, Resogun, Contrast, Don't Starve, DCUO, Trine 2, Injustice, and just about every multiplat, because if the XB1 version is worth picking up, the PS4 version darn sure is. Now you could try to crap on that list all day long, and I could similarly go in on XB1 titles that you want us to assume are worth picking up on just your say so.

As for your PC, if it were a console doing that then of course that would be a big factor when comparing consoles. That's just "Duh!". But you're not talking about a console. You're talking about your PC, which I guess you do suddenly care about the numbers for in that case. It is acknowledged that superior performance can be achieved on PC's, because they are open hardware. That's not questioned. People go for consoles because they provide some things that PC's don't. I just saw an article about a petition to bring Virtua Fighter 5 to PC. I mean, come on. The point is, the graphical capabilities of the PC are not in dispute, nor are they downplayed. If you like XB1, fine, but stop trying to dispute or downplay real differences in the capabilities.

[rarity]

@whoyouwit04 my stomach can't take it please stop with the jokes the only next gen xbox one game is ryse and it runs 900p 20fps dead rising 3 runs 720p 15-25fps and has last Gen graphics forza looks okay but doesn't scream next gen should I stop or talk about the other last Gen looking/performing xbone games?lol and why should I care if you own a gaming PC I own a pc but we're not talking about PC's we're talking about consoles and why do you sound upset? Did I say something? U mad bro?( oh and by the way about those ps4 games http://www.techradar.com/us... check The list and pick out what you think is good)

[pyramidshead]

I imagine it's quite taxing on the brain to suppress information like this so that you trick your own eyes into seeing no difference. I guess that's the power of brand loyalty.

[TheSsus]

No wonder you only have one bubble.

[Metallox]

The difference between 720p and 1080p depends on the position between your TV/monitor and you. Still, with 1080p resolution you have less jaggies and better effects. That's a nice plus. Also, the difference between 30-60 FPS it's indeed noticeable. It offers you better inmersion and that stuff. Still, I don't care either and I could play an Xbox One game without losing an eye.

[LeCreuset]

The difference between 720p and 1080p is that 1080p has 2.25x the pixels of 720p.

[beerzombie]

You very right size of tv and distance you are from it makes a difference.

[CryofSilence]

Is that so? I'll just leave this here then.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Metallox]

That looks... very boring... and depressing.

[ziggurcat]

actually, corvus, the screen shows exactly what all of the paper numbers are saying.

your eyes are simply deceiving you since xbone *upscales* all games to 1080p.

and i'm pretty sure that resolution mattered to you the entire last generation anytime a game was poorly ported to PS3, so stop acting like a hypocrite.

[DigitalRaptor]

This is next generation my good fellow.

The downplaying is absolutely and utterly ridiculous, considering you guys were blowing up absolutely MINUTE details last gen.

The differences are measurably bigger this gen, and if Xbone is struggling to get games running at 1080p, without a filter that crushes the blacks and sharpens images, it's very, very telling.

"If no one told you which was which and they were running side by side"

Perhaps if both screens were only capable of 720p output... maybe just maybe, you could argue that. Fortunately, a game that is native 1080p will look better on a screen that was designed to display it in wonderful 1920x1080 resolution.

[die_fiend]

Lol butthyrt fanboy denial. You're telling me I can't tell the different between 30fps and 60fps? One is smooth at butter, the other is Xbone. It's not that it looks really bad, it's that it's significantly inferior. I'd be pissrd if I had an Xbone. Then again, if you're stupid enough to go for a weaker console, what did you expect? All that power of kinect is the cause of this when the only thing kinect is good for is saying 'xbox off'

[liquidhalos]

I'm sorry but you're wrong, you can tell the difference. There is a difference.

[GarrusVakarian]

Lmao, people who have little experience seeing anything in native 1080p always stick out like a sore thumb when they speak about resolutions. The difference between 1080p and 720p on a NATIVE 1080p HDTV is NIGHT AND DAY.

1080p is literally over double the amount of pixels (2.25 to be exact) of 720p, those aren't "numbers on paper", those are facts that show up native 1080p screens. I have a 42" native 1080p TV and i can the difference in resolution between 720p (last gen games) and 900p (BF4 PS4) EASILY from 10 feet away, let alone 1080p (Killzone) which looks way sharper than the others. Are you trying to say that over 2 million pixels (1080p) and just over 900k pixels (720p) look exactly the same? Is that really what you are saying? Denial to the max. If 1280x720p, 1600x900p and 1920x1080p all looked the same on a native 1080p TV then devs wouldn't bother making games at above 720p lol.

Do yourself a favour and buy a device/TV capable of showing you true NATIVE 1080p games, you will realise how silly your previous statement sounds. Even better, play CoD Ghosts on your X1 (presuming you have one), then play Forza 5 after and see if you don't see a difference. Forza 5 will be WAY sharper and cleaner with less jaggies. 1080p > 720p....it's just fact. You can't argue with mathematics and native 1080p TV's lol.

The fact you have 16 agrees just shows how dumb/denial ridden some people can be. They probably all have old ass 720p monitors.

[Iamnemesis4880]

This is a new system DEVs are still learning the console give then time

[christocolus]

I agree though its unfortunate that you cant reason that way here but you can wait it out and allow the games speak for themselves over time.

[Iamnemesis4880]

True to that let the games speak for themselves

[jimbobwahey]

The games do speak for themselves, by running at higher resolutions and framerates on PS4. Can't argue with fact :D

[Hicken]

It truly is unfortunate that you can't use flawed training and expect others to take you seriously.

The basic architecture of the two systems is very similar; there's just more of everything to work with in the PS4. The resulting games are speaking quite clearly, though you may want to take your fingers out of your ears and uncover your eyes so you can understand them.

[DragonKnight]

Yeah because it's really difficult to handle x86 architecture that they've been using for years.

[mmc-007]

sarcasm at its finest, I like your style.

[mmj]

Xbone is pretty much identical architecture to PS4, it's not like last generation when you had two completely different animals.

They are much closer architecturally this time around BUT they are much further away in terms of overall power.

[TheSsus]

Yet on PS4...

[zero_gamer]

The Kinect anchoring the performance of the already lesser hardware than the PS4 isn't helping developers achieving that goal in any way.

[lonelyplayer]

Both systems are new. Both will continue evolving. But the gap is already there and it's huge.

[DigitalRaptor]

Before Microsoft decided to allocate a chunk of the console's power to Kinect and OS, for their holy vision of multimedia, TV and sports, the Xbone was STILL less powerful than the PS4.

Factor in that which Microsoft cared more about, and it shows that they made their own bed that day.

PS4 is significantly more powerful than the Xbone, AND its power is easily accessible for output by developers. The games are already speaking for themselves in the fact that the PS4 versions are outputting at higher resolutions and running at higher frame rates, and this disparity will continue all generation.

[riceking]

the never ending war...

[Iamnemesis4880]

We are all gamers the console war are all about the 1% of people that want to prove there better even though we are all the same just as the consoles are

[MightyNoX]

Excuse you~

Please don't lump people together by claiming we are all the same...because we are not. We unique, just as there intelligent people, there are naive, foolish people.

And consoles are not the same.

Interestingly enough, your 'this is a new console, give it time' sounds suspiciously like Misterxmedia. Do you follow him?

[XiSasukeUchiha]

Sad part is everyone needs to come up with a conclusion of there own for this war to be stopped!

[HappyWithOneBubble]

http://cdn.arwrath.com/1/15...

[ELCUCO]

I can imagine Penello and Major Nelson fist pumping when they heard the first news.

....not so fast!

[DigitalRaptor]

Oh god. If only there was a reaction gif for that moment. If only...

[MUGEN81]

Don't they have better news then this crap! It's really getting boring time to move on.

[admiralvic]

Come on, this is just three articles over the span of a couple hours. Things like the Nintendo fusion, Wii U being dead, Titanfalls multiplayer count and such are way more played out than this will ever be.

[Summons75]

True, plus its the weekend. Not to much happens Saturday and nothing happens on Sunday. Repeat articles, doom n gloom, false rumors are pretty much the norm on the weekend.

[MasterCornholio]

OMG this is getting ridiculous.

Reminds me of the whole scandel with Battlefield 4.

[Bolts-N-Rays1109]

Would have been nice if the guy would have confirmed or denied the rumor when he clarified himself...

[admiralvic]

I think avoiding the answer says a lot... even if it is a simple case of him not knowing, leaving it blank is going to make people think it is 100% true.

[Bolts-N-Rays1109]

Exactly. Just put it to rest that it is 1080p or not.

[hello12]

It was reported that Tomb raider on xb1 was running at a lower resolution too a few days back and now that looks like its untrue.

Wait until its confirmed before saying Thief is running at a lower resolution.

Tomb raider guy did not comment on frame rate for both the PS4 and xb1.

If the xb1 is running at 60 frames and so is the PS4, thats news.

I would not be surprised if the xb1, is set at 30 and PS4 30 maybe 60 frames?

[KonsoruMasuta]

When was it reported that Tomb Raider would run at a lower resolution on X1? I remember all the article being about the X1 version running at 30fps while the PS4 was running at 60fps. And that was confirmed to be true.

[EXVirtual]

It's already confirmed that the XBO version runs at 1080p native 30fps unlocked and the PS4 version runs at 1080p native 60fps unlocked.
What are you talking about?

[GTgamer]

@KNWS
You know you wrong rite?

[MorePowerOfGreen]

Troll spin trying to save face and keep hope alive LMAO. We must know now! If we don't know it must be sub HD LOL

EDIT
LOL at the disagree. Everybody knows Tomb Raider is 1080p on both consoles. Thuway did not make a mistake. He was caught and other Pro Sony fanatics are spinning his damage control to continue the attack.

Eidos said both Theif versions run at 1080p

[pyramidshead]

Well they went to 1080p and sacrificed frame rate, which to be honest is worse...so it's either or looks like. lol

Also link to RECENT article stating that both are 1080p. I'm sure you can edit your post again to include it.

[MysticStrummer]

"Troll spin trying to save face and keep hope alive"

Your own personal motto, judging from your comment history.

[jessupj]

It must be utter hell for you right now.

You can still get a PS4. It's not too late.

[DoesUs]

How many more games running worse on XB1 is it going to take before reality kicks in ? Seriously? And please for the love of god stop spreading lies about the XB1 inner workings! There is zero secrets yet to be "unveiled". Nothing but tool improvements, same on PS4...and the ESRAM fugue you keep harping on at is 100% bull. It is 32meg only, understand? Only 32meg of data can be used not the the whole available system memory, unlike the PS4 which all available system mem runs at the peak bandwidth. It's a VERY long generation coming up for you my friend. The PS3 launch is rather different as that architecture was VERY different to now. Effectively the new machines share 90% same setup, only one has a vastly superior memory setup and GPU. And please dont talk about move engines as they're there for a reason 8)

[SpiralTear]

I'm really starting to believe that this "resolution-gate" issue is going to be persistent throughout this entire console generation.

[DJ]

Yeah, and unfortunately there's no solution for developers. If you want the Xbox One version to look as good as the PS4 version, you have to cut the render resolution in half. It's just how these consoles were built.

[GusBricker]

We'd all like 1080p, that's true, but I have to say, I'd rather have a steady/solid framerate at a lower resolution than shitty framerate at a higher resolution.

[hello12]

i am undecided, but i am thinking lately higher resolution might be better for online gaming giving the player a better line of sight?

Reason why i think frame rate is less of an issue is because we connect online by the internet.lag happens anyway. 30 frames, i don't think it would be that bad even for shooters, if it was solid 30 frames.

[GusBricker]

In general you mean or for Thief? Does it have online play?

[DoggyBiscuit]

I'm so glad I bought a PS4 instead of a X1

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

Ppl are a lot more concerned with resolution than I thought.

[mhunterjr]

Smh these articles need to stop! It's getting really annoying. The ps4 will have better running multiplats. Ps4 owners will by the ps4 version. Xb1 owners will by the xb1 version. PC owners will buy the PC version. Why does such this crap have to get so much attention.

If we get to the point where the difference in hardware is causing the xb1 to miss out on certain content or whole games altogether, THAT would be news. But this resolution crap is old news.

[KonsoruMasuta]

Fans should know the specifics before they buy their games. I think some Xbox fans would want to know the resolution. That way they can factor it in and see if the game is worth their money or not.

[mhunterjr]

I agree, Fans should know the specifics. But there doesn't need to be a news article for every single game. There are spec sheets that come out with every release, and they are easily obtainable . That was adequate all last gen, now suddenly we need 'news reports' from QA testers. It's ridiculous.

We've had several conflicting reports on this topic within hours. This isn't news, this is tabloid stuff.

[Hicken]

It's news because you STILL have Microsoft and a certain sector of their fanbase trying to say the difference is minute, unnoticeable, not worth mentioning. And they're the same people who were trumpeting the FAR smaller differences last gen.

For people like that, you sometimes just have to beat them over the head repeatedly with reality until they accept it.

[mhunterjr]

You don't have to beat anyone over the head. The spec sheets speak for themselves. If someone thinks the difference is minute, then so be it, it's their opinion. Anyone who bought an xb1 did so knowing it will have weaker graphical performance. They've already accepted it. So constant reminders of the lesser performance isn't going to achieve anything for anyone. It's just flaimbait.

[maniacmayhem]

There are minute differences Hicken, it's not like last gen when sony fanboys would compare deeper blacks or blades of grass and proclaim PS3 the winner.

And it's not like truly busted ports like Skyrim, Bayonetta and Bioshock that were seriously messed up and almost unplayable due to that companies inability to port to the PS3.

No, you are not getting that here. So this need to beat someone over the head is just plain stupid and so ignorant plus laughably hilarious that such a situation concerns you so much.

[RDOUBLE]

Who cares this game looks terrible.

[GTgamer]

If it looks so terrible why the hell can't it hit 1080p on the Xone :/.

[headblackman]

so what! just shut up and play the game

[heisenberguk]

"Multiplat games are either better or equal on our system or they aren't allowed" was always a ludicrous demand!

[Wingsfan24]

Yea, the guy was like yelling at us over Twitter saying we were lying and had no right to use his name for the story. Once something goes on Twitter you give up that right and the fact he called us liars was kinda funny considering the Tweet was there plain as day. He later messaged back saying he was sorry and misread the Tweet. Very ominous situation and the fact that he deleted the Tweet is also..idk. Hard to say if he screwed up or what.

[jgrigs09]

I feel more entertained about the War of words in ukraine. These game/consoles arguments are lameeee.

[KillerByte23]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

To be clear, I'm the ony who made the tweet in the OP and never talked about Thief. I don't know how OnlySP came to that conclusion but I was talking about Tomb Raider which has been said on multiple ocasion in the last week that it was running at 1080p.

I already asked the guy from OnlySP and mods from here to take down the thread/articles since they are lies putting words into my mouth.

TLDR: Nothing to see here, move along.

Edit: I only just now noticed that he was talking about Thief in the original tweet... I read too quickly and assumed he was talking about Tomb Raider since this is what everybody is talking about nowadays...dammit.

So there you go, another rumor that the PS4 fanboys can use to hate about the Xbox One has been debunked now move along

[ethomaz]

People guessed (wrong) that he said Xbone version runs at 1080p... if the Xbone version really run at 1080p the dev won't come in public to say "no, I didn't said the Xbone version runs at 1080p).

A rumor (1080p for Xbone) debunked to give more to PS4 fanboys laugh over Xbone.

That's what I understand... Xbone fans had five minutes of 1080p dream.

[dark-kyon]

xbone fans when a xbox one game get confirmed 1080p
http://img20.imageshack.us/...

[Bdub2000]

Wait, is this big news because x1 fans are very curious, or because the ps4 fans are trolling all over the comments section again?

[MicDude]

Ok if it hasn't been confirmed 1080p by now then it isn't going to be 1080p more than likely. Nothing else to see here. Move along

[AKissFromDaddy]

In my opinion, its hard to believe this since Tomb Raider runs at 1080p but at 30fps. Tomb Raider appears to have a lot more going on screen in comparison to Thief. Nevertheless, even Call of Duty Ghost is natively 720p, then upscaled to 1080p on Xbox One. However, there still appears to be more going on Ghost's screen in comparison to Thief as well.

Its highly probable that Thief's graphics engine is truly impressive and YouTube's compression diminishes my perceptions of its visual prowess.

[DJ]

It might be, Youtube compresses stuff heavily, to the point where even good looking content looks 'meh'.

[AKissFromDaddy]

Agreed. That's what happened with Killzone Shadow Fall's multiplayer footage. The actual footage is leaps and bounds above the YouTube compressed equivalent.

[killzone619]

The AI in this game looks terrible. I dont care if it is 1080/60...if the AI sucks then i'm not buying.

[Farmassy]

Quick question. Am I the only one not excited for this game? Don't get me wrong, I will reserve any final judgement until after it comes out but I just think it is very similar to dishonored (which is probably a better game).

I hope I am wrong and that this will be great but it just seems like it has already been done.

[beatled]

1600p for me thanks

pc, already a gen beyond

[aragon]

Quick question did stuff like this happen last gen? I never noticed, I cant remember debates about resolution and fps, i have both ps3 and 360 and i only realised how brainwashed microsoft and sony fans are the last 6 months. why dont we just play games and beat up each other instead of letting resgate issues raise our blood pressure.