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Is a 13GB game patch unreasonable?

Recently a patch for Dead Rising 3 was made available for download and it came in at a whopping 13GB, which is one of the biggest game patches in history. Is it unreasonable for a developer to impose such a massive download, just so that you can play a game that you’ve already paid for?

xHeavYx4167d ago

For what I read, it's only an extra 2 GB added after files are replaced, so it's not as big of a deal as long as you don't have any caps

r3f1cul4167d ago

seems like they could have either A. released the game in a better state... which i know is unheard of these days in gaming... or B. went about patching it in a more efficient way, but it is what it is i guess, there goes more space on my dwindling xbox one hard drive either way, which is slim to begin with compared to the game size now :/

LAWSON724167d ago

Thanks for the info because I could not help but wonder why the hell it was 13GB.

Freeball4167d ago

Even though it replaces data on your drive already, you still have to download the 13GB, which can be ridiculously long if you have a slow connection or eat up bandwidth if you have a cap. Mine didn't download while in standby because I had the game suspended, so the next time I logged in I had to forget about playing since 13GB takes 4-5 hours to download for me.

Anon19744167d ago

Who doesn't have caps? In Canada, I don't know of a single major IP that doesn't cap their usage.

Moncole4167d ago

I dont have a cap. You are living in the past.

thekhurg4167d ago

The US apparently doesn't, because I've never had a cap on any of the five internet providers I've had.

ALARM-clock4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

@Moncole

Actually, bandwidth caps are the future, almost all providers do it now unfortunately. I didn't even know I had one until I went over my allotment a few months ago, I was threatened with a massive fee if it happened again.

Anon19744167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

I'm living in the past? Maybe the IP service providers in my country are living in the past but I, my friend, am living in reality. The reality is all the major internet providers available to me in my Canadian city have caps, unless you're prepared to spend roughly $100 a month on internet.

Edit: Just a quick glance seems to indicate the US is going this route as well. I see both Time Warner and Comcast (among others) are rolling out plans to start charging monthly rates based on internet usage. @Mister_Dawg below: That's great if you live in the UK. My country isn't so liberal when it comes to data usage.

Mister_Dawg4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

In the UK, if you don't want caps then get sky or BT broadband. I have BT fibre with no caps and 13GB is not a problem. As fibre totally replaces copper, caps will disappear as bandwidth will shoot through the roof.

Even better, the price is really good too. Its something like £20 ish a month.

Get some!

qu1ckset4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

I live in canada and I'm with Rogers , running express package with unlimited bandwidth , your living in the last , caps LOL , never again will I deal with that , the about of online gaming , hd netflix and other downloads I consume , I couldn't deal with caps! Bill is $70 a month..

Anon19744167d ago

@qu1ckset. Rogers isn't available in my province but even looking at their website, I don't see a single internet plan they offer that doesn't have a cap. The $70 plan has a 150gb cap in Ontario (my $50 plan with Telus offers the same cap).

You have to go up to the $122 plan to get up to the 250 GB cap. Looking at their website, they don't even appear to offer an unlimited plan. Even their $200 a month plans have caps. And even out west we've heard stories about how bad Rogers is about throttling traffic.

http://www.rogers.com/web/l...

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dedicatedtogamers4167d ago

CAPCOM should be called to task for being so sloppy with this game. I don't think it's a matter of drive space (even if it did use a full 13G, it's not that much). It's a matter of

1) the size of the download itself, and
2) the fact that it is a mandatory download.

Thankfully for X1 owners, you can download in the background (but you can't play DR3 while the patch is DL'ing) but if this is what people are dealing with right at the start of the generation, imagine what sort of nonsense you'll be downloading 3 years from now. Just seems like with all the fuss gamers (on both the PS3 and 360) made about mandatory pre-game installs last gen and "Patch-station" and stuff like that, this issue being given an awful lot of grace.

cyguration4167d ago

The fanboy denial across the internet is immense and infuriating.

WHY is this so forgivable?

All over N4G, Gamefaqs, Reddit and even Neogaf, there are just a bunch of excuses made as to why there are such clunky, non-user friendly services that gamers have to deal with just to play games.

It's a farce and it's inexcusable.

This is the main reason I like sticking with Steam. It still takes up crazy bandwidth but it's extremely easy to use and I can turn-on and turn-off auto-updates. I can also control the bandwidth the downloads take up so it's not always downloading at all times.

It seems like there's such a huge step backward in serviceability for these new-gen consoles.

dedicatedtogamers4167d ago

@ cyguration

I always turn off auto-updates (because it's hella annoying on Steam) but I'm grateful that Steam...you know...offers the option. This 13G patch is mandatory!

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ4167d ago

Yep I downloaded it and it only added just over 2gb to the existing file. Why the hell are you getting downvoted?

Akuma074167d ago

Because he is saying it is okay. I don't understand your, or his point. Just because it is only an additional 2gb of data, means it is okay to download 11gb worth of data you already had?

It is unreasonable no matter how an Xbot spins it.

Scatpants4167d ago

Who cares, it's only 13 gigs. I understand if I had a bandwidth cap I'd be kind of pissed, but since I don't this is a non-issue.

AntoineDcoolette4167d ago

I'd say that it is unreasonable because depending on the speed of some peoples' connections that could take several hours minimum to download if not longer. It definitely would have with my old verizon DSL

mcstorm4167d ago

It all depends on what's been done and from what I'm reading its fixes in the game and an extra 2gb. Now people seem to be forgetting the massive download gt5 has. Yes its a pain but there are more things to worry about in the world than a 13gb download.

geddesmond4167d ago

It is a big deal. I haven't moved onto next gen yet as I'm waiting for PS4 stock to reach my area but if this is the future for next gen games then it's very off putting.

Where I live, the highest speed I can get is 6mb. Yeah it's unlimited so it won't cost me extra but a 13GB file takes around 9 hours to download for me. 9 hours for a patch that adds DLC I don't buy for games unless its a very big expansion. No thanks.

Akuma074167d ago

It does not matter one bit what the REASON for the 13gb is. It is completely crap no matter how you spin it.

So basically what you are saying is that they are making you re-download 11gb worth of files that you ALREADY have? Yes, because that is completely reasonable isn't it.

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r3f1cul4167d ago

even after all the "details" of what actually happens with the memory during the patch, i find the overall game size this gen is absurd compared to the hard drive space we were offered and how much the operating system takes up on the xbox one specifically... not up to snuf on ps4's stats so im not gonna speculate on it but my hard drive i'd say is pretty much 2/3 full already and there arent even any large amounts of games released on xbox one yet... that coupled with the lack of a fully functional surround sound headset... a very slow operating system, my blu ray lip sync being completely off, and a party chat that well sucks balls makes me very sad that i bought an xbox one at all honestly :(

Scatpants4167d ago

I bought both. The Xbox one is definitely not as good as the PS4. I do like the controller though. Vibrating triggers FTW.

MarioAna4167d ago

13Gb seems less like a patch and more like a full download. Many full games i've downloaded have been smaller. How broken does something have to be that it requires 13Gbs worth of fixing? Seems fishy to me. Maybe they snuck some future purchasable DLC in there, nothing would surprise me these days.

Death4167d ago

It's not a 13gb patch. It's the future DLC being offered. All users received the DLC so when they play with someone online that purchased it, they can still play the game with all the DLC's benefits.

cyguration4167d ago

Dead Rising 3 has multiplayer?

ShwankyShpanky4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

I keep seeing people saying this, but I'd be interested to see if it actually pans out that way. Seems odd that they'd let people play the DLC for free just because they're playing online with someone else that paid for it. Other games basically just tell you "Sorry, you can't join this session because you don't have the DLC." Yes, certain DLC assets need to be on non-DLC machines, such as weapons and skins, in case a character equipped with that DLC joins a non-DLC game, but not full-on maps and missions.

Akuma074167d ago

You're making that up.

DragonKnight4167d ago

It depends. I say it's unreasonable that there needs to be a patch of that size because the game has that many issues needing to be fixed.

Fireseed4167d ago

I'm guessing you haven't played it... cause bugs are surprisingly minimal.

DragonKnight4167d ago

I was speaking in general.

maniacmayhem4166d ago (Edited 4166d ago )

How can you speak in general when you are speaking about the game?! Have you played it?

DragonKnight4166d ago

Should I rephrase my sentence to say "a game" instead of "the game?" Would that be better?

4logpc4167d ago

I dont see any reason to force me to download the dlc data if I dont have it.

Death4167d ago

What if you want to play with someone online that has the DLC? Now you can play in their game without purchasing the content.

barb_wire4167d ago

so, why don't just have a compatability patch, like oh Borderlands 2 uses or most other games.

4logpc4167d ago

The dlc cant be played co-op

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Capcom announces next event to showcase Dead Rising and Resident Evil

Capcom has just announced its own event where it will showcase some of the upcoming titles it is working on.

Fishy Fingers359d ago

"RESIDENT EVIL 7 biohazard for iPhone/iPad/Mac."

Feels like a deliberate omission from the title.

Babadook7358d ago

How wish it was...

"RESIDENT EVIL 7 biohazard for iPhone/iPad/Mac/PSVR2."

Sonic1881358d ago

"Note: this event will not include news or updates for other titles."

Armyofdarkness359d ago

Code Veronica! Or 9. Wish they did 1 again first tho

-Foxtrot359d ago

No games being announced unfortunately

Friendlygamer359d ago

I'm hoping they bring the classic versions of 2 and 3 to console

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Canceled Dead Rising: Dia De Los Muertos Gameplay Surfaces Online

Videos of the canceled Dead Rising: Dia De Los Muertos have come to light, giving us a look into what the game could have been.

Underpants853d ago

Shame loved the Dead Rising series. Even enjoyed 4 but not sure why they removed the campain co op.

TheColbertinator853d ago

A zombie lover like me will always wait for a new Dead Rising.

hotnickles853d ago

Dead rising 1 was one of my favorite games back in the day. I never got into the others like I did DR1. DR2 was ok but 3 and 4 were kinda lame.

Kakyouin852d ago

Absolutely agree with you 100%. 1 was A MASTERPIECE even though it had several things that were not that good. But still a very solid title. And the ending was EPIC.

hotnickles852d ago (Edited 852d ago )

I agree. I’ll never forget grinding the zombies in the parking tunnels to get the mega buster weapon. Its uniqueness will always stand out to me and is high up on my all-times.

MasterChief3624852d ago (Edited 852d ago )

When I got over the rather bland art direction of Dead Rising 3, I actually fell in love with that one. Dead Rising 4 on the other hand.... :(

It's a real shame the Super Ultra Dead Rising 3 Arcade Remix Hyper Edition EX + Alpha DLC isn't available on PC. It was one of the best DLCs I've ever played, it was so fun! But alas... I no longer have my Xbox One :(

hotnickles852d ago

I should give it another try on the newer Xbox controllers. I remember jumping over to the Xbox controller was a big peeve for me. I loved the 360 controller and dead rising was one of my very first games on it. The Xbox one controller felt cheaply and loose and it bugged me. I don’t feel that way with the series x one.

Kakyouin852d ago

Never played 3 or 4 but I read they weren't the same. As for 1 I guess the character played the "path of the hero" so well, no other title could keep it up with. 2 had to have another instance with Frank. And that's what I loved about the first: Frank was a good for nothing and still was the hero. He was not funny, he was not the hero everybody wanted. He was just there "for a good story". And the psychos..... my goodness!! Adam, the snipers, the three prisoners on the garden, the cult! MY GOODNESS!

Nebaku853d ago

Good Riddance. Capcom Vancouver's entries are a big stain on what was a great, charming game series.

The ideas shown here are the pinnacle of their ineptness. Yeah, let's remove items on the ground, a core mechanic to the franchise, and one that people would show they still love in BOTW 2 years later.

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Dead Rising Is Proof That Sometimes You Shouldn’t Listen To Feedback

TheGamer Writes "Dead Rising first burst onto the scene 16 years ago. At the time the game was a groundbreaking technical achievement, and a great showpiece for the then-new Xbox 360 due to how many zombies it could cram onto the screen at once. However, it was more than a mere tech-demo. Dead Rising captivated fans with engaging gameplay that allowed you to use almost anything as a weapon, packing that choice with unique bosses and an iconic protagonist in Frank West."

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RavenWolfx940d ago

I loved DR1 and 2. 3 was pretty decent, but 4 was just bad.

traqueia940d ago (Edited 940d ago )

I definitely agree.

What I always found amazing in DR1 was how it was a survival game first and a sandbox game second, and not the other way around...

Your weapons were resources for specific situations, and you always had to juggle your resources and plan your runs... "I'm gonna get two X weapons on this store for hordes and then I'll get to that other store and get Y weapon for Z boss".

Although the trend of combining weapons that started in DR2 and so on was fun, it removed that layer of strategy and streamlined the series too much by catering to the "it's too hardddd :((" crowd, since you only had to focus on crafting the same 2-3 kinds of strong weapons and you're good for the rest of the game...

shinoff2183940d ago

This was one of the games I got an Xbox 360 for back when. Dead rising. Lost odyssey. Blue dragon. Alan wake. Anyway the last 3 didn't disappoint. I thought dead rising was kinda eh. I didn't like the setup or how it played out. It's been years but if I remember right it was some kind of timer during the missions or whatever you wanna call them. Straight turned me off. I never even tried the sequels.

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