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Dark Souls II: ‘World Screenshots’ – Signs of Regression?

Namco Bandai released a new set of Dark Souls II screenshots a few days ago and surprisingly, the images expose a deteriorating scenario. The upcoming graphics are quite similar to the previous game but with clear signs of regression – lack of detail, poor definition and blurred shadows are some of the issues spotted.

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k3x4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

I thought that maybe I was a little spoiled as I've been playing DS in 1080p, at 60fps with other dsfix improvements, but then I checked gameplay videos from DS, then DS2 again and, well, the game does look worse than its predecessor.

What stands out the most are the terrible character animations, but there are other things too. The textures' resolution is reminiscent of the early 2000s. The character models and lighting all leave A LOT to be desired as well.

I'm basing this opinion on what I saw in their latest trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watc... . It just looks bad. I know graphics aren't everything, but to have a game look worse than its predecessor released for the same platforms is... unheard of.

I posted something similar on youtube only to promptly get flamed by fanbois. Funnily enough, I've also received a reply from Namco basically telling me to GTFO and play something else if I don't like what I see.

Senyra4171d ago

I actually didn't want to say DS2 will have WORSE graphics but... i think you're right. I'm not sure what engine they're using but the gfx seems worse than DS1 :0

Mega244171d ago

If they have developed the game for new gen would have been better, with even new features maybe, but low graphics or not, the fanbase is going to love it.

thorstein4171d ago

Since when have the Souls games been about graphics? Well, if that is the problem I better cancel my preorder/s

PurpHerbison4171d ago

thornstein, Demons Souls actually looked very very good for a console game when it came out. I was impressed. But nothing has changed since then.

frostypants4171d ago

@thorstein: Graphics aren't everything but they matter. Be honest. For them to actually get worse would be nearly unprecedented.

Bimkoblerutso4171d ago

They're obviously not ALL about graphics, but building atmosphere is a very, very large part of the game's greatness in my opinion.

And although I wouldn't say that the graphics look WORSE than the first Dark Souls, I have to say that they definitely look no better (and in fact seem to be using most of the same assets as the first one).

It is a little disappointing, but in the end I don't think it's going to matter. Dark Souls is still looking crazy awesome. Just watch the original gameplay video...

k3x4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

The graphics aren't everything, but like other people already explained, they're the most important factor as far as creating the atmosphere goes.

Look at the animations in both games. They just looks stiff in DS2, and since you're going to be looking at your character ALL THE TIME playing this game, I'd say that's a pretty damn big issue. With the abundance of awesome looking games, it's pretty hard to get into the game when your character moves like a stick figure.

The low res textures, everything somehow looks flat and cartoony. Both this and the animations is something you can look at and actually rate objectively. It either looks realistically (and that's what's expected in a game like this) or it does not. The animations are either more realistic than previously or they are not. There's no room for opinion or personal likes/dislikes here. So everyone disagreeing with me: do yourselves a favor, see it for yourself and stop being idiots about it.

I actually like the animations in DS1 and sometimes I'm still impressed by some locations and views. When I watch the trailer that, by its very definition, is supposed to entice me to buy the product, all it does is make me shake my head, smirk in disbelief and think, "How in the f*ck did you guys manage to make the sequel look WORSE?"

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MysticStrummer4171d ago

Maybe they downgraded a little to keep the entire game running smoothly, unlike some sections of Demon's and Dark Souls.

LightofDarkness4171d ago

I think you're right. Some FX look a bit nicer, but overall it looks a tad duller.

But really, who wants another Blight Town scenario? Let's be honest, both Souls games had frequent and debilitating framerate issues. If they can lock the framerate at 30FPS for consoles, they should strive to do that.

That said, I hope the PC version allows for higher resolution textures. No point shipping the compressed to hell versions that the consoles seem to be getting when there's no need.

frostypants4171d ago

I never had issues wih the occasional slowdown in Demons Souls or Dark Souls.

torchic4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

I heard it was the draw distances which hampered the framerate, especially in Blighttown since you can see all the way down the area. not sure how true that is.

Dark Souls has some pretty incredible draw distances, like you can go to a part of Darkroot Forest behind Artorias door and snipe Hydra from all the way up there. the framerate was pretty bad in there too.

there's literally no pop-in in that game.

MestreRothN4G4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

I approve any downgrade needed to keep steady frame rate.

I prefer a 600p game running at 30 fps than a 720p at 25-27.

PurpHerbison4171d ago

Dark Souls ran a lot worse than 25-27. But yes, all the changes seem necessary since the engine has trouble keeping 30FPS on console hardware.

Scrivlar4171d ago

I remember thinking they didn't look any better which was annoying, but I don't think they're worse, Hope not anyway.

JsonHenry4171d ago

I'm waiting on PC or next gen version. Whichever one comes first. But not for graphics. I just don't own any last gen consoles anymore.

Ashunderfire864171d ago

Look to be the same in terms of graphics. Did you guys see those dragons on the bridge, and the deadly horse rider for the first trailer? That actually look better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The Soul games always have great animations and graphics to the monsters with motion blur. I think the game is a beautiful looking game on PS3/360 and even better on PC.

I am going to get this game on PC along with Castlevania 2.

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Wni04171d ago

How about some decent level design this time.

darren_poolies4171d ago

You're kidding right? Dark Souls has some of, if not the best, level design I have ever seen in a game.

DoctorJones4171d ago

Gotta agree with darren on this, the level design in Dark Souls was superb, it was meticulously designed. Every area had it's own character and was a big part in what made the game fun.

I'm not sure why you had a problem with it really.

Wni04171d ago

Having its own character is art direction, not fu*king level design. The game has a horrible camera/gameplay for verticality and yet the gsme constantly makes you explore and fight up and down tall castles and stairs. Also, the games basic bread and butter mission structure is trial and error. Yes it makes players think on their feet but at the cost of unfair deaths. There is no help from the developers, no real tips, so while I can see the attraction to doing things by yourself (half-life does this well,) its lazy design when there is no buildup unlike HL. In halflife players find out platforiming and physic based puzzles on their own, but Valve makes each puzzle helpful for future challenges. Having "invincible" creatures that simppy can't die untl you have specific items or weapons, AND not telling players really anything isn't great level design, its lazy. All DS is is essentially Player go to location B. Go to C. Go to D. And here are 5-6 monsters in your way. Wow best level design this side of nothing.

achmetha4171d ago

people see what they want to see.

i think it looks fine, but it's hard to tell with those camera angles. i'm excited regardless.

Ashunderfire864171d ago

Yeah if you look at my comment above I mention the graphics. Both you and I think it looks very good. I don't get it? Didn't anybody see the first 2 trailers? When those 2 trailers came out nobody complain about the graphics. That's just news to my ears that now people are complaining?

Jaunty4171d ago

Shitty clickbait article.

PurpHerbison4171d ago

This article is actually very good for those who are worried about the FPS for console versions. You can clearly see they are at least trying to address that issue by turning things down a little bit. It's great.

Jaunty4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

Are you freaking kidding me? You can't even call it an article, they're all presumptions based on a few screenshots. THE GAME IS NOT EVEN OUT YET.

"This article is actually very good for those who are worried about the FPS for console versions."

No it's not, it's a shitty clickbait article.

PurpHerbison4171d ago (Edited 4171d ago )

You say that cause you think it is trying to shine a negative light on your precious Dark Souls 2. No, there is MUCH positive to be found here. Any Souls player knows the FPS was terrible so any signs of it improving is absolutely welcomed. This includes slightly worse graphics.

Jaunty4170d ago (Edited 4170d ago )

I don't know if you're just blind or stupid so I will explain it to you for a second time. I don't say that the article is negative, I'm saying that it's a horribly written article based on nothing substantial. The writer has written only presumptions based on 3 new screenshots. How she talks about the graphics is childish and she clearly doesn't know her stuff because the full resolution screenshots does look better in comparison to Dark Souls. We don't even know if the screenshot are from consoles or pc. Which is a big deal because if they are from the pc version, all of her presumptions about the console version are false. Also she doesn't even mention the beta of Dark Souls II. I've played it on the PS3 and I can tell you, it does look better. HOWEVER, I still noticed framerate problems just like other beta testers out there. So everything that she mentions is currently just bullshit.

PurpHerbison4170d ago

"I don't know if you're just blind or stupid" Stopped right there, your wall of text can fall in limbo now.

Jaunty4170d ago

Then you're clearly stupid and not blind. Thank you for your white knight behaviour.

Oh and your opinion is shit.

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Grave4171d ago

Let me tell you how much an opinion from the peanut gallery is valued.

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Why Dark Souls 2 Deserves a Second Chance in 2025

As difficult and frustrating as it is, people should consider reliving the Dark Souls 2 experience, especially because of what's coming to the game.

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PrimeVinister41d ago

Many of those who hate Dark Souls II hate it because it's not Dark Souls. The same people love Dark Souls III because it isn't Dark Souls II.

And so many of the issues at the centre of common complaints about DS2 are present in DS3 and sometimes even DS1. The hatred and bile spewed over this perfectly decent game is ludicrous.

CrimsonWing6941d ago

I don’t think it’s a terrible game, but like a movie sequel by a different director, for me, it does NOT capture any of the “magic” felt from the Miyazaki entries. Boss battles don’t feel epic, environments don’t have the same sense of awe, the enemy variety isn’t particularly interesting, the art direction just feels bland, about the only thing I can give it praise for is some of the music.

Now, again, this is only how I feel about it, so I’m not trying to invalidate his you feel about the game, but it is the worst entry in the series due to those factors and it’s the least re-visited entry, for me.

Is it decent as a game on its own? Sure. But in comparison to the Miyazaki entries, it does not stack up and I believe that’s where many were disappointed with it.

PrimeVinister41d ago

Completely fair. I cannot disagree either, mate.

MrWood41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

You can also play it in VR flawlessly on PC & controller with the LukeRoss mod so… another reason to jump back in with extra immersion.

jznrpg41d ago

It’s not a bad game it’s just not as good as the others

Shadow Man41d ago

The controls felt very clunky to me, I tried playing it after beating Darksouls 3 and it didn’t feel fluid, obviously the hit detection is less superior for been an older game.

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Dark Souls 2 Broke the Mold with Smelter Demon’s Over-the-Top Design

The Smelter Demon is a bombastic boss design that bolsters Dark Souls 2's roster with an experience that updates an older fight's form to function.

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CrimsonWing69251d ago

Man, I dunno about that. In fact, most boss fights in Dark Souls 2 were forgettable.

__y2jb251d ago

Dark souls 2 is really underrated.

HyperMoused250d ago

My First DS's no idea why it gets so much hate

Redgrave250d ago

Or as I liked to call it, Horny Butthole Face

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Hidetaka Miyazaki claims Dark Souls 2 “carried” the series forward

Dark Souls 2 remains a divisive entry in the landmark RPG franchise, but Hidetaka Miyazaki believes it led to the success of Elden Ring.

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anast482d ago

The game isn't good though.

Rols482d ago

DS2 was fine. While there was a bit of recycling assets or ideas for bosses, it was a bigger more open Dark Souls. The Fume knight boss is one of the hardest bosses in the series until Sekiro and Elden Ring were released.

CrimsonWing69482d ago

The problem with Dark Souls 2 was the same problem when a different director takes over for a sequel to an outstanding movie. It typically (there are exceptions) doesn’t have the feel and vision of the previous movie.

I wouldn’t say Dark Souls 2 is terrible. Had Dark Souls 1 never been a thing and we got this, I think it would have been praised more. The problem is it didn’t have the Miyazaki touch to it and felt pretty derivative. The soundtrack is a banger though.

Aussiesummer482d ago

And it will happen in the future when he doesn’t touch them as he is planning on.

MrBaskerville482d ago

I like DS 2, might even be my favorite of the 3. But it's a hard sell, there's so many obscure things you need to do to make it an enjoyable experience. So always find it hard to recommend, but it is worth the trouble.