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Dismal Wii U Sales move Nintendo closer to "Game Over"

With the successful launches of the Xbox One and the PS4, it's been easy to forget that the latest console generation started in November of 2012 with a dud.

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Benjaminkno2835d ago

It's fine.
Games will be coming out consistently this year.

If things are still like this a year from now, then yeah sure, "game over".

Maybe one of these companies will be dropping out of the console business, but it won't be Nintendo

gedden72835d ago

100% agreed.. And when that company does, I'm sure there's still going to be Nintendo DOOM articles.

mewhy322835d ago

I'm afraid that the future for Nintendo is looking very similar to that of Sega. Or at least for the full size console market sector. I can see them continuing to dominate the handheld market but the Wii-U is pretty much fighting a battle that it cannot win against PS4 and the bone. I'd love to see some of the franchises go multiplatform or even become Sony PS4 exclusives. They could also start developing for moble. I don't think that Nintendo is going to die out but I do feel that in the very near future the company will look very different.

Kidmyst2835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

Nintendo's biggest problem was the success of the Wii with the Casual market masking Core gamers. Nintendo felt that everyone wanted Gimicky motion controls and that never caught on with Core gamers. Core gamers shell out Hundreds to Thousands of dollars each in games and hardware. when the WiiU launched they expected the Wii owners to buy into the WiiU. Problem is they didn't, a big tablet controller that only one could be used, then forced to use that. Core gamers don't want flailing controllers around, not cheesy games. If Nintendo wants to succeed, the motion controls, touch screens and that need to be optional and put in a rewards system (Trophy, achievements) and put out games not found anywhere and topped with classic franchises and new, they have a chance. I love Nintendo and they need to listen to Gamers!

badz1492835d ago

There is a huge, HUGE difference between the current Nintendo and the Sega of old. Sega didn't have a market leading handheld that prints money like the 3DS is now and that is why Nintendo is not going the way of the Sega anytime soon. They might drop the Wii U early if things remain ugly and come up with a new console but dropping out of the game is never EVER an option for Nintendo especially with the amount of money they have!

What they need to do now is swallow their pride and start admitting that the gaming scene no longer revolves around them and start taking next gen properly. A better and well structured online system is a good start.

Benjaminkno2835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

Just so you know Sony and MS lost billions of dollars last gen so...

Nintendo isn't the only one fckn up.

Disagree all you want. Wii was the only profitable system and that's a fact

Back-to-Back2835d ago

@Benjaminko Nintendo is strictly a video game company. Sony is a entertainment company and Microsoft is a software juggernaut. For them video games are only a small part of their business. If sales are slow for either MS or Sony it wont kill them because their other divisions can make up for losses. Nintendo on the other hand has nothing to fall on if their sales falter.

badz1492835d ago

@Benjaminkno

Yeah...keep telling yourself that and maybe...just maybe you can get some of that profit yourself! smh

It's "game over" for a gamer when they start worrying at how much profit a company make, not the essence of gaming itself! Sure MS and Sony lost a lot on the 360 and PS3 but does any gamer complain on how well the 360's online works? Or does any gamer complain on how many exclusives the PS3 has? Definitely NOT! Those are the strength of those consoles and what has made them the main gaming platform for many while the Wii was mainly selling because it was cheap and gimmicky but in the end serves nothing else but the ocassional Nintendo 1st party games.

Just ask yourself, when was the last time you heard somebody says "the Wii is my main gaming console because it's profitable for Nintendo"? NEVER unless that person is either Iwata or Reggie!

Shnazzyone2835d ago

I think what's even funnier is seeing these two stories next to each other after showing up today.

http://i.imgur.com/LcMwyqu....

torchic2835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

"Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata believes part of the
company’s struggles are that its customer base doesn’t
yet have children"

Iwata must go if he honestly said & meant that wow I don't even know how to react to that, very very poor stuff from him :/

looking pretty bad for Nintendo, even the 3DS is performing below par according to Nintendo themselves (or their estimates were way too over-optimistic) but of course watch Nintendo fans spin these news and complain "the journalists are in for us" instead of pushing Nintendo execs to move on.

Neonridr2835d ago

yeah the 3DS was the best selling piece of video game tech in 2013 but it's performing under par...

logic seems to have left the building in that statement.

torchic2835d ago

it's not meeting expectations so it's performing below par. that's a fact right there.

maybe you should take issue with Nintendo misleading investors with sales targets that they were never going to achieve, don't look at me

MasterCornholio2835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

Even Nintendo says that its performing below their expectations.

Even with evidence from Nintendo themselves some people will find a way to dismiss it.

P.S In no way am I saying that the 3DS is performing badly its just that its selling less than what Nintendo was expecting.

Neonridr2835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

Pretty sure Nintendo has gone around bragging about the successes of the 3DS and it's successful 2013.

an example of one of those articles right here.

http://www.nintendolife.com...

To me that doesn't sound like it's under their expectations.

TheUndertaker852835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

"Nintendo also lowered its sales projections for the 3DS console from 18 million units to 13.5 million for the same period.

“We put in place various promotional activities in order to promote sales and expand our audience in the year-end sales season of the previous calendar year,” Nintendo President Satoru Iwata told a news conference. “However, it is now expected that our sales will fail to meet our previous forecast by a large margin.”"

So yes, the 3DS performed under par. Nintendo wanted to sell 18 million 3DSs but didn't.

Oh, and further

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/i...

"However, outside Japan, while its market share increased as we continued to release compelling titles throughout the year, Nintendo 3DS did not reach our sales targets in the overseas markets, and we were ultimately unable to achieve our goal of providing a massive sales boost to Nintendo 3DS in the year-end sales season. Using the U.S. market as an example, Nintendo 3DS became the top-selling platform in the last calendar year, according to NPD, an independent market research company, with its cumulative sales exceeding 11.5 million units; however, the estimated annual sales of the Nintendo 3DS hardware remain significantly lower than our initial forecast at the beginning of the fiscal year. In Europe, while the individual markets showed different results, France was the only market in which we experienced relatively strong sales, and we failed to attain our initial sales levels by a large margin in other countries."

Neonridr2835d ago

@Undertaker - thanks for the clarification. Nintendo clearly has some high standards for themselves. Which I think stem partly from the massive success of the DS. I think they automatically assume that sales should be just as strong.

2013 was a fantastic year for the 3DS, regardless if Nintendo had to lower their expectations or not. Perhaps they were setting unrealistic goals, who knows.

DC7772835d ago

Well christ you do have to advertise. I don't think I have ever seen an ad for 3DS.

Much in the same way most people never knew Wii U came out.

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ABizzel12835d ago

Iwata, says "This is why I am encouraging people who purchase Nintendo products to begin having children as soon as possible.”

LMFAO. I literally had to wipe a tear from my eye after reading that. You Nintendo fans need to take a break and start popping out some babies so we can make more money. *tears*

Seriously though. The Wii U is in trouble due to Nintendo's failure to evolve with the times. Their hardware is the equivalent to a low end gaming PC from 2009, their management and software is stuck in the GameCube / Wii era (lack of strong online, multimedia, etc...), and their games while putting fun first don't appeal to many of todays new gamers who want Action, FPS, and Mature games.

Until those problems are fixed they're going to struggle with the Wii U, and it's successor. Hardware isn't the be all of gaming, but weaker hardware receives little developer support. The only good that comes form weaker hardware is generally a lower price point, but $250 still isn't that far off from $399 in which case you can get a significantly superior console HARDWARE WISE. They need a better balance on price : performance next gen, and they need to drop the Wii U down to $199 + a game, to better compete starting August 2014.

Software and management are their biggest failings. They need to hire new management who better understands todays market, get a good online network running and PROMOTE IT, and get more apps and services for consumers. Nintendo Prime Membership, could be something like PS+, giving you free games each month, Nintendo points to use on their website, early access betas & demos, discounts on the eShop, etc...

Games. If you keep making the same games, you'll keep getting the same audience and the same results, and if as you say new gamers aren't coming in then eventually you'll fatigue your current audience and end up in the situation you're in now. I'm not saying Nintendo needs to start making Call of Duty type games, but they need to make different experiences as well as get better 3rd party support.

Games like The Walking Dead Seasons 1 & 2, Minecraft, The Elder Scrolls, Borderlands, Rockstar games, and EA games are all missing from Wii U, and without that kind of 3rd party support most, core console gamers aren't going to bother with the Wii U unless it's a 2nd or 3rd console purchase.

Finally take a chance with first party games. Mario gets 20 spin offs, so give your other cast some as well if you can't think of New IP's or revive old ones:

Metroid = Adventure / FPS
Zelda = Adventure (doesn't need to change)
Fire Emblem = Action game (but not like Dynasty Warriors)
Kirby = Space Adventure / RPG
F-Zero
Earthbound
etc...

And if you can't think of new IP's hire 3rd parties to make them for you. An LA Noire / Heavy Rain type game would be amazing with the Wii U gamepad. A Batman Arkham game build from the ground up on Wii U gamepad could be great. More RPGs / JRPGs / RTS / and Niche genres are all things the Wii U needs and can do to carve an identity for itself and not be completely overshadowed by the PS4 and XBO.

Knushwood Butt2835d ago

lulz

Nintendo's target market needs to get some action in the sack instead of sitting around playing video games.

deafdani2835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

Iwata never said that. That "quote" came from a SATIRE piece.

Which talks a lot about the reliability of Forbes. I trust that author just as much as I trust Fox News. >_>

live2play2835d ago

theres a difference from
NINTENDO 3DS IS PERFORMING POORLY
to
NINTENDO 3DS DID NOT SELL TO OUR EXPECTATIONS

if nintendo 3ds performed POORLY
and the 3ds WAS THE BEST SELLING CONSOLE

what does that say about the ps3 xbox wii wiiu psvita ps4 xbone

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KrisButtar2835d ago

Doom and Gloom again, The WiiU has struggled and may continue to do so but its not the end of Nintendo.

NYC_Gamer2835d ago (Edited 2835d ago )

Wii U struggles are a sign of things to come if Nintendo doesn't adapt to the modern market

Sarcasm2835d ago

It's not the end of Nintendo, but could be an early end for the Wii U.

deafdani2835d ago

That may be true, but even if the Wii U is a flop, I expect Nintendo to keep supporting it and making tons of first party games for it for a minimum of 4 or 5 years before releasing their next console, in order to not lose consumer confidence (which is exactly what happened to Sega, and what ultimately made them go broke).

And Nintendo is pretty capable of doing exactly that, if needed.

ABizzel12835d ago

@deafdani

They're not going to pump out "tons of first party games" when they're audience is only 7 - 10 million come holiday 2014. If they don't at least double their lifetime sales by the end of 2014, then it's over for the Wii U.

No one is going to develop multi-million dollar games are a game to barely breaking half a million in sales. Games that come out will be less and less, with smaller and smaller budgets.

skydragoonity2835d ago

Nah its not game over for nintendo anytime soon

TheEnigma3132835d ago

Not Nintendo, but the WiiU maybe. Depends on how this year pans out for it.

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TheEnigma3132835d ago

I wish Nintendo would have just went with a different name. At least they have the 3DS to fall back on if the Wiiu does belly up.