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Steam Machines will take bite out of games console market

The steam machines could really tempt gamers away from their consoles, argues PCR Online in an opinion piece.

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Kayant3758d ago (Edited 3758d ago )

Yep. Especially with that price in the UK. Add to that you need Windows to get most of the games PS4, XB1 will be getting.

SteamOS is not going to be getting all big dev supporting it instantly early on IMO like PS4 & XB1 already have. That's probably the biggest reason it wouldn't have that much traction apart from the higher entry price.

thekhurg3758d ago

They won't even take a nibble lol...

mikeslemonade3758d ago

The consoles well sell essentially how much they're gonna sell. Steam box won't effect it by more than .01%

amiga-man3758d ago (Edited 3758d ago )

I think this is more a threat to the PC market more precisely windows, If it can gather enough steam (excuse the pun) an operating system on PC architecture designed with pure gaming in mind could turn out to be lot less hassle and far more efficient.

Time will tell but if it takes off I will be more than interested in buying one.

Jacobite3758d ago

Why worry about the Steambox if your happy with your PS4 XB1 great, but most mature gamers like choice. I myself own most consoles upto this gen now my son and I have went full circle and back to PC gaming till something else interesting comes along now this might be it or not but knowing Steam (Valve/Gabe) might give it a go.

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Retroman3758d ago

ps4,X1 have NO threat steam come steam evaporate like OUYA no dev will back them up.

MultiConsoleGamer3758d ago

Ouya has over 500 games, exclusive titles, a recently released limited edition version and a new updated version is on the horizon.

It also got picked up by several big retailers.

Most "Internet gamers" are completely ignorant of the new market.

JsonHenry3758d ago

lol @ Ouya being vaporware. I know a lot of people that have one. And the games catalogue is quiet large compared to either new console.

And no dev will back them up? That is how ignorant you are. Anyone that makes a game for the PC automatically "backs them up" and since the PC is the lead platform since the games are all made on a x86 for x86 consoles there are going to be a lot "back up" from the devs.

If the Steammachine launched today the amount of games on steam that are both controller enabled and linux supported dwarf what is available on either console.

Nerdmaster3758d ago

lol @ people trying to make it seem like Ouya is a success.

Kayant3758d ago

"Anyone that makes a game for the PC automatically "backs them up" and since the PC is the lead platform since the games are all made on a x86 for x86 consoles there are going to be a lot "back up" from the devs" - Not really it's not like Windows = Linux or that major pubs like EA, Ubisoft, 2K have announced their upcoming games are coming to SteamOs. So no atm they are not getting "backed up".

"If the Steammachine launched today the amount of games on steam that are both controller enabled and linux supported dwarf what is available on either console" - That may be true but it doesn't hide the fact 80%+ or more of those games are indies and not everyone plays indies none is it primary front for the majority of console which Steam machines are supposed to bite from.

Hicken3758d ago

So what ARE the Ouya's sales, MCG, Json? You two talk as if it's a big success. You speak like all those games are driving its sales into something significant.

But what are the sales numbers for the Ouya? Do they even remotely approach a number that could distantly be called "significant?" Hell, you can't even find any exact numbers for the thing; I read an estimate of 154,000 as of June or July.

Is that successful to you guys? Would those numbers for the Steamboxes be a threat to generation 8 consoles?

The Steambox- regardless of which one- faces many of the same problems as the Ouya, PLUS it's not as cheap. There's still the issue of an actual market(since it seems to be inbetween the console and PC markets, which can't be too many people), and there aren't any exclusives that would make it worth buying over other platforms.

So where does this confidence in the system come from?

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iamnsuperman3758d ago

A nibble at best. You make the point of your friend not understand the point because

"I'd argue your average console gamer doesn't want to put that much effort into buying a new system. They want a gaming powerhouse that will play the best games straight out of the box. They don't want to research power supplies or spend hours wiring up parts"

Yet you forget there are 13 different companies with some making several different versions. That is very confusing for the guy who doesn't want to "spend hours wiring up parts". Hell you can get someone else to build A PC for a similar price but it does the PC part (unlike the steam box's which is only a games machine)

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"Scan's NC10 steam machine is the only one built in Britain and starts from £699 - a price tag that could really tempt some of the console gamers with a bit more disposable income but no next-gen console as of yet"

Didn't work that well for the PS3. The PS3 was only selling at around 400 to 500 at the time.

Look the bite is going to be incredible small. They have tried to enter the market but without the risks (getting third parties to manufacter them so they take the risk). Like Scottish independence it doesn't work like that

ELCUCO3758d ago

Only the Xbox fanboy that refuses to buy a PS4 would be interested in this.

PC gamers already own a PC (Which that's all the Steam machine is, in a SteamOS.)

PS4 gamers wouldn't want to pay more for less return. Sony knocked it out of the park with that price point.

BigShotSmoov0073758d ago

And how do you figure only Xbox "fanboys" would be the only one's interested in buying these? I don't think anyone is going to be interested in these things with the prices that's floating around for one of those consoles? I agree this isn't geared toward PC gamers at all but neither Sony or MS fans will want these steamboxes either.

JsonHenry3758d ago

I am the exact opposite. I have a PS4, no intention of ever buying an X1, but will be buying a Steam Machine.

Retroman3758d ago (Edited 3758d ago )

from JasonHenry

"I know a lot of people have OUYA that have one. and the game catalog is quiet larger"

if this is remotely true why has'nt any website made a online report "how massive Ouya catalog is" OUYA is like ONLIVE over looked and unknown= dead on arrival, STEAM-OS will follow. DREAMCAST will be at the funeral.
if not dead give few months no one will hear about it again.

grimmweisse3758d ago

Steam is testing the waters, how big the splash will be is anyone's guess. Although the current pricing seems like it might be a little splash.

Somebody3758d ago

Steam itself was prophesied to have a doomed future but look at it now. Steam machines might not make giant splashes but it will have a noticeable presence. Valve main business is the PC so it knows that total success doesn't come overnight or over several weeks like consoles.

Consoles are expected to sell millions of unit, fast and constantly. Otherwise it'll be disastrous(pre-PS4 PS Vita and Wii-U come to mind).

In contrast, PCs are designed for the slow, long run. Just like how Steam first appeared and I expect Steam Machines would be the same.

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Why the Steam Deck won’t flop like Valve’s Steam Machines

You’re not having deja vu. Six years after launching a line of Linux game consoles that went down as one of the biggest tech flops of the past decade, Valve is trying once again. Only this time, its Steam Machine dreams and unusual touchpads have been rolled into a 7-inch handheld PC that looks and works like a Nintendo Switch.

Here are six reasons why this isn’t Steam Machines all over again — and, a few brand-new reasons to be skeptical.

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Steam Deck looks great, but Valve’s hardware track record doesn’t

Steam Deck comes from a company with a mixed reputation for hardware.

Valve may very well have a hit on its hands — but many fans thought the same thing back in 2014.

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Christopher1008d ago

At least they're trying. They could just keep pulling an EGS. I think this is Valve's answer to cloud gaming, though. I don't think they want gamers streaming from the cloud, they want them on their storefront. So, if that's their reason, they'll likely support this more than they have past endeavors.

VivaChe1007d ago

I actually used the Steam controller and it was alright.

Kryptix11007d ago

Yea, this is a weird article.

It's an impressive piece of technology watching IGN's coverage on it. I want to say that the build quality is similar to Vita with the horsepower of an Xbox Series S and that's very impressive.

The only downside is the battery power. It's not very good and mostly meant to be played to fill in some gaps, but I like the idea of taking your "PC" to a friend's house for some side co-op.

John_McClane1007d ago

Same here, it's a well made controller.

Outlawzz1007d ago

I feel they want to start the new era of portable PC gaming. They said they would offer the customized steam os for free to any companies that want to make their own portable machine.

Somebody had to get the ball rolling is what I took from that statement lol excited for the future with handhelds since I'm a primarily handheld gamer.

TheColbertinator1007d ago

Portable PC gaming is a good direction for the future.

--Onilink--1007d ago (Edited 1007d ago )

While I applaud them for letting SteamOS be free for anyone else to make similar machines, its honestly not even remotely possible to get anywhere close to the pricing of the Steam Deck, which was the same problem that they had with Steam machines.

No other hardware creator has a digital storefront making billions of $ to allow them to sell hardware at a loss and just recoup the money elsewhere, or work directly with AMD to make the APU as custom as necessary.

So yeah, maybe we might see a couple of alternatives from other companies, but they will be even more expensive

Duke191007d ago

The hype around this thing is wild to me. It screams “new toy to use for a few months but then go play steam on my pc”

Ataraxias1007d ago

That's the thing right? As a PC gamer, you have your desk set up to compliment your experience - high end monitors, sound system/headphones, gaming chair, keyboard, mouse, etc. Once I give that part up it's missing a lot of the apeal.

Duke191007d ago (Edited 1007d ago )

For sure, and to people that will get their money's worth - thats awesome. I look at my steam library, and to ditch mouse/KB and play on a small screen... I would much rather go to a cheaper gaming laptop before this type of mobile setup personally

ScootaKuH1007d ago

No because my alienware PC is quite old and isn't really capable any more, I don't want the expense of getting a new PC for gaming but I also don't want to lose access to my Steam library so the Deck is the perfect solution to that.

MadLad1007d ago

I can make a lot of use of this, personally.
My work has me traveling often, so just even those plane rides justify my grabbing one of these.

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Thundercat771007d ago

We will see. The market is unpredictable. You cannot rule out the power of a platform with good exclusive games and even when I don't support Nintendo anymore there is no denying the power of its exclusive games.

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SteamOS Is Not Dead as Valve Focuses on Bringing Vulkan to Every Platform

Valve, the company behind the Steam platform, spoke boldly about its SteamOS plans in the past. It was all about creating an operating system designed from the ground-up for gaming and adding this operating system to hardware known as Steam Machines.

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Vulkan will become standard when the PS5 arrives.