nDreams Product Manager Says “VR technology simply does not exist on the PS4″

Junkie Monkeys: With a heavy flow of rumors circling around a PlayStation 4 VR headset, we may not see this accessory as soon as we thought according to one of the members over at nDreams.

[iGAM3R-VIII]

lmfaooo i had to, the title was just set up like that.

anyway lool, I wasn't really expecting a VR headset coming at this time, I am fine with just a controller.

[GarrusVakarian]

Well that's a kick in the nuts, i thought VR on PS4 was a sure thing? And i also thought it would be revealed soon? Man, i am disappointed.

Im happy with just a controller too but VR really interests me. Im all about that immersion.

[minimur12]

Didn't Sony do a behind the doors showcase of their VR headset at E3?

Or am I making things up :S

I swear I remember reading that somewhere...

[theDivision]

I think you'll see one coming within the PS4's lifetime (Or maybe they will decide to wait and make it a big selling point for the next one)

[LordMaim]

@minimur12: It was part of their streamed conference on Monday. They showed it, and described it as having a virtual 750" screen that you could look around to see all parts of. I don't know what this article is talking about, because they seem to have not watched the live stream.

[Treezy504]

Funny bubbles for you, that is a good one :D

[doctorstrange]

nDreams doesn't say this, they just say they're not doing a game for it. It may, or may not, exist.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

I don't know what people are talking about there really. VR support is not really console based... Well, it need the console to have some way to do head tracking (camera) and be capable to output 3D Full HD and 7.1 sound (HDMI). That's about it for the compatibility issue, so PS4 is already pretty much VR Headset compatible. Heck, you can plug the latest Sony HMD 3D model to your PS4's HDMI port right now if you are willing to pay the 1000 bucks bill. The only problem is that the game itself need to support proper stereoscopic 3D and head tracking for that VR immersion (which no PS4 game yet support as far as I'm aware), otherwise it's basically a headmounted TV and headphones.

So the VR support is really on a game to game basis. In fact, if you plug one of those pricey VR headsets on PS3 along with an Eye camera to play Gran Turismo 5 it works like a charm! So it's not even a "next-gen" thing.

What people should actually be asking Sony, nDreams and whoever else is:
#1 Are we getting a more AFFORDABLE VR headset?
#2 Is the game _________ going to support VR headsets?

[fr0sty]

Sony was researching and patenting VR long before any of you ever heard the word "Oculus". Shu even hinted that they were in talks with Oculus, when he tweeted "I say Oculus, you say ****?" to which one of the Oculus crew replied inviting Shu for a tech demo. If Sony did not decide to license Oculus tech, it means they were already farther ahead with their R&D than Oculus was.

[kidhero99]

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[Albie360]

That is very sad. Would have done more for gaming than this stupid game steaming service of all the games we already played.

[Pillsbury1]

This will be a true way to immerse yourself in the game. Put on virtual headset with body tracking and headphones and you are completely immersed. Hopefully when the ps5 comes we will have VR.

Anybody remember VR troopers?

[BlackTar187]

WE ARE VR.

LOL i used to watch that show knowing it was awful and still enjoying it.

JED the talking dog.

[adorie]

VR troopers... Ohhhh. I feel pain just thinking about it. XD

[JohnnyTower]

That's too bad. But Sony needs to drop the price on their HD Headset first. That unit is still $1000 and has no head tracking. It's scary what the VR headset would be worth.

[Pandamobile]

Sony's probably a year or two behind Oculus when it comes to VR usability and R&D as well.

[JohnnyTower]

Is there even a price point set for the Rift yet? They may hit the same roadblock of high price and low adoption rate.

[Ingram]

Sony patent from 12\13: "The patent also gives details about the headset at large. (...) include an in-built camera that can detect pupil movement and blinking, adjusting the game image accordingly; a biological sensor at a frontal contact region that can detect "body temperature, pulse, blood components, perspiration, brain waves, and cerebral blood flow"; a posture-detection system to feed information to the game about head tilting and body movements; and moving-object detection that can both replace the object with a virtual one and simulate the object's real-world movement in the game."

[Pandamobile]

The dev kit was $300. I imagine the consumer version will be $250-300 as well, which is a damn good price for something as awesome as it is.

[thehitman]

I doubt it Sony been researching this since ps3 came out Oculus is farely new.

[Pandamobile]

Sony's only HMD products thus far have been extremely expensive and not very good.

Oculus is very obviously the leader in the VR gaming field. They've got the ambition, some of the best hardware and software people in the industry at their back (Carmack, Gabe Newell et. al at Valve), seemingly endless amounts of investor money, plus tons of other industry support already.

Sony will be playing catch up from day one if they actually do go to market with a VR gaming headset.

[sonic989]

seriously Sony is way bigger than some random people even though i know most of them but really do you think Sony are stupid they have the best engineers in the industry also Sony is a japanese company that alone is enough of a reason

[jollygoodchap8]

Console fanboys are funny...Valve/Steam/PC is random people?.....yep ok

[sonic989]

@ jolly
since when PC became people .
valve is a software and service company and has nothing to do with hardware engineering and of course cant match sony's abilities in terms of hardware expertise .
carmack please that guy should build his spaceship already XDDDD if he can.
and of course other random people .
i was wandering how many members are there in the project ?
and how much money they have invested or own ?
in both questions sony are winners ( money and staff ) without even thinking

[specialguest]

There are many issues with VR that the Oculus people are actively addressing now such as the nauseous feeling a lot of newbies get when the movements of the game is off. Theres also things like the importance of 60fps as a mandatory requirement for VR and how the forward and backwards tracking is vital. One big factor was the Oculus community's feedback which helped provide some of tgese discoveries. This is why Oculus is years ahead of Sony when it comes to VR.

Simply building VR product and setting it out in the market isn't enough for such an old tech fantasy which technology finally caught up with to make it possible on a practical level. It takes a collective effort from different people like tech experts and engineers, devs, and a community of ethusiast to tackle any issues in this new frontier of practical VR. This is what Oculus represents.

[Jughead3416]

My hopes were up too. Doesn't mean it's not in the works, just not as soon as we'd hoped. But can this developer speak for Sony like that? Wonder is they'll respond.

[webeblazing]

And soon people here will go back hating on vr n oculus rift

[starchild]

Yep. Because if Sony's not doing it, it automatically sucks.

[_LarZen_]

That means that when the Oculus Rift HD version comes for sale the PS4 will collect dust for me. And probably allot of other gamers....

The label worshipers will probably just scream gimmick and continue as nothing happened tho.

[BlackTar187]

alright... CSB

[Clover904]

I can't wait for VR and all the new experiences it'll bring, but in don't think it'll stop me from playing traditional console games. Would be amazing if I could play the ps4 on the big screen via Oculus Rift's VR Cinema 3D.

[yezz]

?? Do you really think this technology is so awesome that people are suddenly going to stop playing with screens and TVs :D

[_LarZen_]

Not everyone of course, but I think allot of people are really going to like it. I tested a early prototype not so long ago and it's a big game changer.

It's going to change everything when it comes out.

[MrPoopyPants]

That's ok, i'll just play PS4 on my new 147 inch Ultra 4K short throw projector.
"The Ultra Short Throw Projector will launch this summer, and will retail for approximately $30,000 to $40,000 USD."
There goes that idea.

[donnieboy]

But Shuhei said...

[GraveLord]

Not yet.

[Pennywise138]

I've played the oculous rift demo set and once its fine tuned vr will be a game changer. Nothing like sitting in a chair but having your brain think you are way up in the air in a rickity old roller coaster.

[LKHGFDSA]

:(

[Gabenbrah]

I always questioned this Sony PS4 VR headset as displaying games in VR is extremely taxing on the hardware and the PS4 is simply not powerful enough to produce 1080p 60 FPS in 3D. I'm not saying the PS4 is weak, its just essential for the game to be in 1080p, otherwise you can see the pixels with your eyes that close to the screen and 60 FPS is essential I'm VR as well as 30 FPS can make you nauseous I'm VR. Disappointing but Oculus Rift is only around the corner and I'm far more excited for that.

[LKHGFDSA]

I hope he's just wrong/uninformed and the HMZ-T3Q is supported by the PS4.
Either way it's a shame nDreams aren't working on it.
edit: I ment to post this in the above comment I made, but the above comment didn't show on this page for me so I made a new one. Sorry about the double post.

[xActionBasturdx]

VR MMORPG...Sword Arc online anyone?
I cant until we reach that technology

[Joe913]

This is BS they did not talk about it much but at today's keynote when talking to the breaking bad guy when he said something about the VR headset Kaz said it was for movies, pictures, and gaming and yesterday when they did talk about it he said it does have some type of motion tracking or sensors so if you are watching a video or viewing a picture you would be able to look around like you was there.
http://venturebeat.com/2014...

[Whitey2k]

I wonder if thwy would announce VR at a big event like E3