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Valve announces first round of Steam Machines ranging from $500 to $6,000

Valve Software is the undisputed king of PC gaming software, thanks to classic titles like "Portal' and "Half Life" and its multi-player distribution service, Steam — which now boasts more than 65 million users. But in a move that's got gamers the world over chomping at the bit, the Seattle-based company made its first step into the world of gaming hardware Monday night at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, when it announced the companies it has partnered with to develop its highly anticipated "Steam Machines."

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Insomnia_844176d ago

"The relatively low-end models from iBuyPower and Cyberpower start at $499, which is the same price as Sony's new PlayStation 4."

Wrong!

MrPoopyPants4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

Your'e right! For just $399 the PS4 is way more powerful then those "entry level" models starting at $499.

mikeslemonade4176d ago

I hope these things rot and don't sell. Pisses me off that they even think they will be competitive. They're just so disrespectful!!

iamnsuperman4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

That is because Valve isn't manufacturing them. I said this a while ago these things won't be cheap because a company like Sony can offer the cost with their PSN/retail sales and third party paying to put a game on their platform. These companies need to make a bigish profit to make the investment worthy. They are branded PCs pushing Linux (which is Valve's objective)

abzdine4176d ago

lol now we have to deal with steam fanboys as well!!!

creatchee4176d ago

So I can pay $500-6000 for a PC that won't run a word processor??

Sign me up.

meetajhu4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

Bullshit those 500$ steam machines have R270x gpu which has 20x the performance of ps4's gpu and it has a desktop class CPU instead of ps4's APU. The gpu inside ps4 is equivalent of AMD 5830.

nukeitall4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

@MrPoopyPants:

That performance discrepancy will favor Steam machine in the long run, maybe as soon as early next year and the gap will widen fast.

That said, hardware/performance is a minimal part of a console selling point.

@creatchee:

"So I can pay $500-6000 for a PC that won't run a word processor??"

It will run everything if you install Windows on it, but neither your PS4 or Xbox One does either....

That said, MS got a lot of flack for mentioning MS Office with Xbox One.

kingduqc4176d ago

Ps4 isn't more powerfull mypoopypants...

amd 270> ps4 gpu.
the cpu is clocker way higher then the ps4's tablett cpu.

and you dont have to pay fees for online AND you get steam deals.

Shabutie134175d ago

I have nothing against the PS4, I have everything against people who feel it is actually a powerful unit for the price. These 499 steam boxes are spec wise more powerful than the PS4. "But wait, there is no optimization and GDDR5 Shabutie!" If these are your arguments, I highly suggest you look up what you are talking about before spouting off such nonsense.

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mrpsychoticstalker4176d ago

Hows that wrong???? Explain...

Coughs.........

steam is coming, greatness awaits...

Coughs...

Insomnia_844176d ago

Need some ricola?

PS4 is $399. Not $499!

Get it?

admiralvic4176d ago

This is poor. Even by troll standards.

Kryptix4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

lol The funny thing is that he noticed that Insomnia's comment was proper a few hours later and then he desperately tried finding the word "Edit" all over the website. :P

How can you not know that the PS4 is $400 when that's one of it's more relevant advantages currently.

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Vojkan4176d ago

DOA
THis thing is so going to bomb. PS4 is already at what? 4 million install base. And price is 399$.
Why buy steam box if you have solid PC?
Never going to replace my console of choice. Plus it's too expensive.

JBSleek4176d ago

Expensive? Assuming a life cycle of six years that's an extra $300 for access to online multiplayer which makes the price of a PS4 $700.

On top of having to pay for more expensive software.

PC games same more money than console gamers over a period of time. Sure console has an easier access to entry but over a span of time that quickly diminishes.

The_KELRaTH4176d ago

Steam Boxes are not aimed at the existing PC DIY gamer rather the person who would pick a console for ease of purchase.

Options will be to buy an Xbox 1, PS4 or PC games console that's upgradable and has much cheaper games, as well as a huge back catalogue of games and user created content.

kayoss4176d ago

$6,000 monster machine plus low internet bandwidth with data cap = Useless paper weight.

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johny54176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

That thing better be packing a 16 core CPU and Quad GTX 780ti's or the new announced GTX 790 or else this is going to be a major rip off!

And the standard Edition better outperform a custom built PC for $500 or else nobody going to buy this thing?

MazzingerZ4176d ago

There will be a game where you will control all the world's satellites, only the 6000 bucks Steam Machine will run it haha

ELCUCO4176d ago

Should've made HL3 instead. Now you shall wallow in the feces of Kaz Harai.

Mikefizzled4176d ago

Why is this supposed to encourage developers? Its just continuing the same fragmented marketplace with a different, new and unfamiliar, operating system. I think Valve have missed the point with this.

Mikefizzled4176d ago (Edited 4176d ago )

In your sarcastic remark you actually proved my point. How many Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda, Capcom or Square games can you find for me that have been made for linux? Therefore they probably don't have any experience with it. The only major player behind linux games is Valve themselves and all they are doing is porting their old games instead of making Half Life 3.

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Portal with RTX Update: Now With DLSS 4 & RTX Neural Radiance Cache

Today, Portal with RTX is being upgraded with DLSS 4 with Multi Frame Generation, multiplying framerates, as well as the transformer model for Ray Reconstruction and DLAA, enabling even better image quality. Portal with RTX is also adding RTX Neural Radiance Cache (NRC), a neural shader that improves indirect lighting, as well as a bevy of performance optimizations.

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Valve Makes Up for Steam Deck Repair Delay by Gifting Free Game

Valve gave a user Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 for free as compensation for the long wait during their Steam Deck repair.

UltimateOwnage28d ago

I had a similar experience when I initially pre-ordered my Deck. There was an issue during shipping and they offered me a customer service perk for the hassle and let me pick any game on Steam. It was super nice of them. I got a copy of Rime.

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89 million Steam account details allegedly leaked, but no one seems to know how

A LinkedIn post from Underdark AI made the discovery, stating that datasets are being sold for over $5,000 on a known black market forum.

Cockney31d ago

Biggest hack in gaming history if true

Christopher31d ago

No personal details, mostly account names, no passwords. Likely would need other account leaks to hope that someone reuses a password with a similar account name on another already leaked service. While a lot of users, the data is useless. Kind of notably by the $5k request for the data.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

Plus, if you have 2FA enabled, then you were at zero risk anyway, from what I've read, Steam isn't even recommending password changes as it's apparently unnecessary.

VariantAEC24d ago

@Christopher
Where are you getting that from?
The linked article above says, "The seller claims this is a “fresh” leak and says it includes usernames, passwords, two-factor SMS logs, message contents, metadata, delivery status, and other sensitive details." Which sure sounds like they might have a lot of other information. If this leak is legitimate I better stop hearing people falsely say PSN is the worst secured digital storefront (even though that hasn't been true for a very long time with far larger data breaches since 2011 all over the world including the Equifax breach which was several times larger).

VariantAEC24d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic
That seems true only if you use Steam Guard. If you opted for T2A via SMS the article suggests it's time to make the switch to Steam Guard and of course change your password.

Christopher24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

From the credit URL: https://x.com/MellowOnline1...

The article doesn't do a good job of going into the updated detail, they just mention part of it.

Just because the seller claims something, doesn't make it true. If it truly contained that data, it would be worth way more than just $5k. SMS systems don't rely on getting passwords for accounts they're sending an SMS to, just the username, phone number, and timestamp info.

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Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

You don't remember the psn hack I take it

Cockney29d ago

I do remember it being 77 million, thats why I made my comment

BlueDaBaDee29d ago

Update:
"Valve has now confirmed that “this was NOT a breach of Steam systems” and users do not need to change their passwords as a result. However, it continues to recommend that you set up the Steam Mobile authenticator for extra security."

https://store.steampowered....

Fishy Fingers29d ago

Shame. I liked the idea someone paid 5 grand just for my silly steam name.

DivineHand12529d ago

The government needs a taskforce with serious fundung that can opporate across borders to go after cyber criminals.

It is getting out of hand and it is the regular citizens of the world that suffer the consequences of these hacks and breaches.

My fear is that if left unchecked, state sponsored hackers from corrupt or governents under sections may use this as a method of raising revenue at the expense of everyone else.

Fishy Fingers29d ago

Bro teeing up a Mission Impossible movie.

ZeekQuattro29d ago

Not in this administration. If anything hes been dissolving existing task forces meant to protect consumers.

Amplitude29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Why? They’d just use the funding to funnel hundred of millions of dollars into fake NGOs that then funnel it into democrat pockets while doing zero cyber criminal defence work.

Then if anybody tried to defund them it’d be a whole thing with the mainstream media claiming that there will be endless cyber attacks. NGOs would then fund protest groups to attack anybody that supports defunding the government’s cyber attack defence branch and then it would turn out it was also being used to stabilize or destabilize governments in other countries and overthrow elections to benefit America. Which is fine until they start using it on us again.

Let’s just not. Private companies who know what they’re doing (Valve) can deal with it

RIP USAID. God bless

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

It's not a may use this not we know state sponsored attacks do this already.

It's a global problem you couldn't have one government playing world police it would require joint collaboration with foreign governments and the problem is many laws have not kept pace with advancement of technology.

even then it's hard to say with certainty if an attack was a state sponsored attacks or a cybercriminal group operating outside of governments

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pwnmaster300029d ago

remember when certain groups were saying PC gamers don’t want other subscriptions because it was not safe and steam was the spot lol.

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badz14929d ago

it's time to riot, right, pc gamers??

pwnmaster300029d ago

Be careful, PC gamers are the most touchy out of the gamers lol

staticall29d ago

@badz149
@pwnmaster3000
Have you guys actually read what was «leaked»? It was SMS messages from 3rd party provider (not from Steam itself) with one-time 2FA codes (that are active for 15 minutes). No Steam account details, access to an account or any of that jazz.

Let me quote official Steam response:
«The leak consisted of older text messages that included one-time codes that were only valid for 15-minute time frames and the phone numbers they were sent to. The leaked data did not associate the phone numbers with a Steam account, password information, payment information or other personal data. Old text messages cannot be used to breach the security of your Steam account, and whenever a code is used to change your Steam email or password using SMS, you will receive a confirmation via email and/or Steam secure messages.»
Source: https://store.steampowered....

The only bad thing about this is the phone numbers. But while that sucks, attacker doesn't know which Steam account this phone number belongs to. IMO, the only thing people should be rioting about is how unprotected the SMS are and the 3rd party service that was used by Steam. I'm all for punishing people who screwed up and/or lacked the security. But this is not it.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

Why riot? They have nothing of value, can't even steal an account with the details they have, they would have to attempt a brute force attack, you can already do that with a Steam user's account name (or any account on any site) if you really wanted to spend the time and processing power to do it.

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