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Is The Wii U A Niche Console? | Gaming Precision

Managing Editor Esteban Cuevas asks in this editorial "If the Wii U can't compete with the Xbox One and PlayStation 4, can it survive as a Niche console?"

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admiralvic4210d ago

Isn't that obvious? It's only going to appeal to those that love Nintendo games and maybe think the tablet controller is cool. It isn't a console you just "buy" if you want to game, since it (along with many other Nintendo consoles) lacks proper third party support.

zeal0us4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

By that logic...

The PS4
It's only going to appeal to those that love Playstation games,better exclusives, stronger system. Not mention a lot of features can be used without needing PSN+

The XB1
It's only going to appeal to those that love Microsoft games, Kinect, time-exclusive content , TV features, people who don't mind paying for XBLG.

If WiiU is a niche console for those specific reason then I pretty sure the PS4 and XB1 would be label niche consoles as well for specific reasons of their own.

A true niche console would be something like the Ouya, Mad Catz M.O.J.O and Gamestick. None of them are truly necessary since as Android phones and tablet exist that can do the same thing as those devices can.

admiralvic4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

"By that logic"

You do know what a niche is, right? It means "relating to or aimed at a small specialized group or market", which is what the Nintendo Wii U is. It's a system you only buy if you want to play Nintendo exclusives. The same is not true for the PS4 or XB1, since almost every third party title makes it on the other at some point and it really boils down to which system you think is better. This is what lead to many people considering the Wii and Wii U to be a "secondary" console. Yeah, they're awesome to own (provided you want the Nintendo experience), but it will never replace your main system and it's something you own for a very specific reason.

wonderfulmonkeyman4209d ago (Edited 4209d ago )

@Admiral
"The same is not true for the PS4 or XB1, since almost every third party title makes it on the other at some point"

PC gets many of the same third party games that the Playstation and XBox brands get.
The only real reason to get them is if you want their exclusives, same as Wii U, by your logic, especially since PC's also have better specs than all three, making it pointless to get ANY console just for the specs.

If the Wii U is a niche console, all consoles are, since you'd only get them for exclusives.

But I disagree; I don't feel that any of the three are niche.

Wii U is going through a rough time. Rough times don't always last forever for a console.

That_Guy2u24209d ago

you do know that both ps4 and xb1 have way better third party support which was one of his points. Because nobody wants to buy a wiiU to play cod thats for the home councils

badz1494209d ago

am I the only one clicking into this thinking WTH is "nickel" console?

and then I saw "niche"...OK, I need sleep!

but as I'm already here, let me just leave a comment. I don't think it's niche as it tries to appeal to everybody with a unique approach but I think they cut corners too much. the console itself is not much better than both PS3 and 360, the tablet controller is low spec (single touch, short distance, crappy battery etc.) and 3rd party support is barren! there's no way Nintendo can attract people to buy the Wii U like they did with the Wii as it currently stands.

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buynit4210d ago

Why do you want to be flooded with the same games across all 3 consoles? I really dont need 3 need for speeds..

So if wiiu is a niche consoles for having mostly great exclusives then so be it...

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stuna14209d ago

Most don't like to admit when something is not doing as well as expected, which is normal in certain situation! Especially if it's something you support. It becomes ab-normal when you're willing to go down with the sinking ship because of your support.

wonderfulmonkeyman4209d ago (Edited 4209d ago )

It's even more abnormal to consider a ship sinking when someone pours a glass of water on the deck, which is precisely what most of the articles calling the Wii U and/or Nintendo in general "a sinking ship" amount to.

In fact, that's what a lot of people did with most consoles when they didn't sell well at some point, however brief, like the PS3.

The Wii U has not even completed its second full year of life.
PS3 took a while to gain momentum too, as did the 3DS.
Yeah, it's not doing as well as expected, but that's no reason to call it niche, let alone for anyone to call it dead.

It's a case of a bunch of people WANTING Nintendo/Wii U to go third party/die.
That's the end point of the whole console war; people wanting what they don't like to go away or to have the best parts of it get absorbed into what they do like.

CLOUD19834209d ago

@wonderfulmonkeyman PS3 have a rough start because it was super-expensive at the start but look what happen now? PS3 is No1 on sales of the previous generation as it was PS2 & PS1 before it the Wii doesn't even count for me because how can u include it's sales when it cost not even half than PS3 & 360 ? do u find fair to compare the sales of 2 products when A cost 120$ & B cost 250$+ ? anyway all 3 consoles of SONY was No1 PS1, PS2 & PS3 & the same is going to happen with PS4 :) SONY have the best games for serious gamers, games for adults if u know what I mean but most important games for all tastes no other console have this kind of variety in games.

wonderfulmonkeyman4209d ago (Edited 4209d ago )

@Cloud
"the Wii doesn't even count for me because how can u include it's sales when it cost not even half than PS3 & 360 ?"

It's not about what's fair or not[even though in this case it's called business and perfectly fair]; it is what it is.
Wii outsold the other two because Nintendo made it cost less and the others made the mistake of using more expensive parts which jacked up the prices far too high, and because it hit a market that neither Sony nor Microsoft were able to cater to in nearly as successful a fashion.
Your personal belief that it shouldn't count because it was cheaper, is ridiculous and shows an outstanding amount of bias.
The prices are the responsibility of the individual companies.

As to your claim about catering to all tastes, I disagree; It's a fact that they CERTAINLY weren't able to provide the kind of entry level games needed, to the new and up-and-coming gamers from the Blue Ocean of casuals who were just barely getting deeper into gaming.
Not like Nintendo has.
They weren't completely bereft of the titles, of course, but if they were even close to the amount/quality that the Wii pulled in, the PS3 would have been the one with 100M sales from The Blue Ocean of consumers, but it isn't.
The Wii beat the pants off of PS3 and 360 by catering, at a great price, to the right type of gamer at the right time.
End of.

And as to "mature games for mature gamers", I'm sorry, but I'm not going to walk that road.
I don't care if you're playing Mario or Zelda, or Battlefield or The Last of Us or God of War, or anything else at all; your choice of games don't make one more or less mature as a gamer or as a person than anyone else.

That's down to personal attitude.

An E rating doesn't mean a game won't be fun for a grown man.
I've found an outstanding amount of games across the last 3 generations of Nintendo hardware that have more than appealed to gamers both new and veteran, old and young alike.
Just like I did with my PS3 and PS2; everything from Katamari Damachi to Devil May Cry, Mario to Xenoblade Chronicles.
There's plenty of games for any kind of gamer on any of the Big 3 systems out today.
You just have to know which kind of gamer you are and which kind of game you want.

Nerdmaster4209d ago

@CLOUD1983
Your logic is the worst I even seen. So if PS4 is 20% cheaper than XOne, XOne sales are "worth more"? Wii sold the most last generation.

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king_george4209d ago

@admiralvic

Your logic is flawed and makes very little sense to be honest. Someone can easily say all of that towards the ps4 or xbox one.

admiralvic4209d ago

Someone can easily say anything about anything, not like there is any difficulty in making a stupid claim like "The Last of Us will appear in a super GOTY with a solid gold statue on the Xbox One for .39 cents", but that doesn't make it true.

Want to see something really depressing?

http://www.ign.com/games/up...

I would link you to GameStop, but they only list 6 games for preorder. Of the games listed, the vast majority are digital titles for things like virtual console. Honestly, nothing there is compelling besides the Nintendo exclusives, which is what makes the console niche.

You then look at the PS4 or XB1 and you have several games to choose from...

http://www.ign.com/games/up...

Diablo, Wolfenstein, Witcher 3, Kingdom Hearts III, Tomb Raider, Thief, Ground Zeroes, Destiny, Dragon Age, Dying Light, Mad Max... the list goes on. In fact, every big third party title on the Wii U is on the PS4 or Xbox One.

So what is my point? While this can be said of any of the consoles, you could buy a PS4 or Xbox One for whatever reason and play largely the same pool of games. However, buying a Wii U will grant you a smaller library that only has value if you want to play Nintendo games or I suppose spend $200+ dollars for the privilege to play niche games like Mighty Switch Force 2. For this reason alone, the Wii U is only really marketing to those that want to play Mario.

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XiSasukeUchiha4210d ago

Honestly Nintendo isn't niche console a console like Ouya is a niche

zeal0us4209d ago

2014 will be Ouya's year. I'm telling you bro.

Concertoine4209d ago (Edited 4209d ago )

ehhh depends on what you call niche.
In my opinion consoles like the dreamcast and neo geo and gamecube are niche, they were perhaps not financially outstanding but they do have diehard fanbases and tons of great games.
in a way, i see the wii u joining the ranks of those consoles, hopefully not financially but from the types of games that appear on the console and the loyalty of the fanbase.

XiSasukeUchiha4209d ago (Edited 4209d ago )

True that the lowest known and underecogizined console a niche Expect Nintendo

ICANPLAYGAMES24209d ago

But, those consoles were marketed for everybody, and just didn't take off (either because they didn't get as much 3rd party support as the competition, or were to expensive, or had shaken consumer faith with missteps from previous generations, lookin' at you Sega).

koolburger4210d ago

If you call a toy for kids niche, it most definitely is.

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King_Otaku_Daniel4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

no

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quite amazing how fast these type of articles get approved fast

admiralvic4210d ago

6 hours is amazingly fast now?

King_Otaku_Daniel4209d ago

I said type not this article. It not on the same level of the one such as Nintendo going third party or irrelevant.

AceBlazer134210d ago

It is. You don't get a Wii U and say wow i can't wait to get the next fifa or cod. You play the exclusives, which are, excluding mario, niche.

cyphertech4209d ago

This. When has anyone been seen walking out of best buy with a wiiu and just a call of duty game?

BaconBits4209d ago

I did! I picked a WiiU up at launch with Black Ops 2 and a pro controller. I thought it was going to be the best version of the game ( I also bought the Wii U for my kid though). While it was fun, it was hard to find matches and no one I knew had a U so I ended up getting it for Xbox.

ICANPLAYGAMES24209d ago

While I agree, that I wouldn't buy one with those (or similar) titles in mind, I certainly wouldn't have a problem picking them up if I already had the Wii U. So, how does that hold up as an argument for why it's niche? Besides, of all the "next" gen. consoles the Wii U is the only one really supporting local mp (online is fine, but I rather enjoy playing with the other people in my house).

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai14d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX14d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK14d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog13d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor13d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje14d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra14d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje13d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac14d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex14d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje13d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter12d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake14d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos14d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8614d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos14d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8614d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr13d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8613d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2314d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos14d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker14d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg13d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake14d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr13d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B14d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

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Obscure_Observer34d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj32d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.

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Nintendo Predicts to Sell 15 Million Switch 2 by March 2026; Switch Has Sold 152.12 Million Units

Nintendo has announced its financial results for the full fiscal year, alongside an update to Nintendo Switch shipments and more data, including a prediction for Switch 2 hardware and software.

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gold_drake45d ago

well, the switch 2 has two holidays in the us, thanksgiving and Christmas.

so id say its fairly possible. the rest of the world will also grab them

Abriael45d ago

Yeah doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility as long as they have enough supply.

Si-Fly45d ago

Do people buy each other games consoles for Thanksgiving? I’m in Europe and always assumed it was just Christmas where gifts were exchanged.

Skate-AK45d ago

I don't think it's so much Thanksgiving, but that Black Friday is the day after.

darthv7245d ago (Edited 45d ago )

That time is often referred to as the start of the Xmas shopping season. For the last few years, retailers would do 'black Friday' deals at various times throughout the year. While many still prefer to start their shopping in the mid to late November, others will just buy when they feel the time (and prices) are right for them.

gold_drake44d ago

i guess its more black friday, should have been more clear ha

GotGame81844d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Thanksgiving kicks off the Christmas Holiday.

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Agent7545d ago

Switch and Switch are a different kettle of fish. A sell out at launch by the diehards, strong sales, then the non diehards will be put off by the £75 ($99) games, including the stupid download cards which are topping £65 ($85). Not rocket science to work out how the Switch 2 is going to pan out. The PS5 has sold well, but games at £70, sales have been low. As game sales drop, prices will rise. Sony could knock out all their games for £40 and still make a killing selling more games. There's no denying that a gaming crash is looming.

Rancegamerx44d ago

I agree, I don't see the Switch 2 selling anywhere near the numbers that these predictions suggest or what the general buzz is implying. While the initial sales will likely be strong, driven by diehard fans, I anticipate a gradual decline. It may not drop off immediately, but over time, sales will inevitably taper.

PRIMORDUS44d ago

Not paying for something that's not worth more than the price it was advertised, which is $449 - $499.

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