Our latest editorial from managing editor Esteban Cuevas. Is the Wii U down for the count?
In this early in the stage to give an answer. Currently it may not be doing as good as PS4 and XB1 but this generation is just start. We don't know what the final outcome may look like. So its best to wait before declaring it a failure right now.
Thank you for your wise words bubbles+
So somehow magically you expect the Wi U sales to jump? It's been out for a year without competition. Now it's harder than ever. Go ahead and downvote me if you have a problem with the truth.
In Japan sales have jumped for the Wii U placing it Under the 3DS XL meaning 2nd place in the Sales charts.
Gotta remember it's the games and price that sell systems. So far wii u is cheapest currently and has the most games. I just dont see EA and activision and other companies supporting it for 3rd party games much longer. But atm the wii u has killer exclusives is it enough to sell alot of systems?
People were saying exactly what you are saying now, about the 3DS during its sales slump at the beginning. Jumps happen, and the Wii U is just as eligible for one as any console. Downvote if YOU have a problem with the truth.
Exactly, people try to compare this to the 3DS but the 3DS is a handheld and Nintendo has historically dominated that market. The wii sold a lot of consoles but most of the casuals didn't play many games. Nintendo tried again to release old hardware and call it next gen and customers had no interest. The wiiU will probably sell some more units when Smashbros and Mario Kart come out but it's really not going to make that much of a difference. The system has one more year to prove itself and if it doesn't then Nintendo should really consider going third party for home consoles and focus on handheld.
It's hasn't "failed" but it is "failing." Who knows, they could make a miracle recovery for all we know. Hardware revision, certain games, and maybe even that certain price point could make it come back to some sort of decent performance.
Not comparing the Wii U to the PS4 or Xbox One.
A failure is a failure. Iwata said it and admit it himself. Nintendo: We have failed to establish Wii U as a "worthy" Wii successor "Except for its backward compatibility with existing Wii software and accessories, we have so far failed to make propositions worthy of Wii U's position as a successor to the Wii system," Iwata said during Nintendo's second quarter financial results briefing. "The "key title" and "central pillar" for Wii U this holiday season, Iwata said, is Super Mario 3D World, which will be released on November 22. Other games that Nintendo has high hopes for are Wii Party U (ideal to play at New Year's holiday gatherings, Iwata said) and Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games." We all know how these went down. 3D Mario failed to sets the charts on fire too. http://www.gamespot.com/art... The 3DS was a failure too at launch. I bet by their so called "Nintendo-like sales" standards Wii U is a massive failure. It is what it is.
It is too early to say (as they can turn the go around) but I do think the inclusion of a tablet controller was a mistake. It shot up the price per unit and it came across as an extra accessory to the Wii (with its advertising focusing on trying to take some market share from the tablet market with a device that is barely a tablet) If Nintendo were clever and thought about it they would have had their 3DS play that role (tablet controller role) and spent more money on the Wii Us hardware (the money that was used for the tablet controller) or made the device ridiculously cheap (that worked very well for the Wii)
It should of came with an upgraded Gamecube controller....I mean look at what could of been http://imageshack.us/photo/... Pretty neat concept drawing right
yeah not bad i wish that with the release of smash bros 4 they will put out a replica of the gamecube controller. they would sell loads - people have been using that controller for smash for over a decade, theyd be stupid to not make one.
Why do people make a big nothing of the tablet controller I love it ..if you don't like the tablet controller get the pro controller or wimote ...easy as that ....it's not like you don't have an option .....just saying
The tablet controller has driven up the cost of the device. That is my point. Nintendo struggles with third party support and £250 is a big ask if you can only play Nintendo titles (which have been few and far between right now). Offsetting that cost with better hardware or by making the device cheaper would have been a better root with this second screen stuff being done through the 3DS (again if they thought about it in advance) People like you wont mind as you like it but the same effect could have been achieved by having it cheaper and the second screen stuff done through the 3DS as Nintendo has always struggled with the third party so it is their software anyway which can push that "gimmick/functionality&qu ot;. It is too late now but it would have been a much better choice (for both the Wii U and 3DS)
I disagree the cost of the controller isn't or was the problem the wii u problem has to do in the beginning of the year with the no games .....to your point I have yet to hear people that actual has a wii u complain about the tablet controller ...yes it made the cost higher to produce for nintendo but in actuality the 3rd party hasn't been with nintendo since the 64 so all the adding power into the machine instead of the cost of having the tablet doesn't matter ...it's all about the games because the wii u is early in its life they just haven't utilized it much but whos to say as time pass they won't they said zelda is gonna use the tablet controller extensively and the games that utilized it are great ZombiU,deus ex,rayman legend,splinter cell like i stated previously if a person doesn't like it just get a pro controller or wimote shrugs.....remember all the big 3 and developers feel 2 screen game play is definitely part of gaming in the future ....
Thank you jay70sgamer! Also I love the pro controller. It feels great and I still use the gamepad with maps and such. And on the tablet controller, just last night I was in the middle of an online game, bf4 on the ps4, and my girlfriend needed the tv real quick. My mind instantly went to the countless times where this has happened while playing black ops2 on my wii u online. Don't even have to find a remote the tablet is the remote. After a couple buttons I had changed the input and channel, set the volume for her, switched to off tv play, and didn't even have enough time to be shot in the process. Continued playing until she was done. Not an option with my ps4. I had to jump out of the match prematurely. The gamepad is priceless and condemned only by people who don't own one.
@bubbamilk thank you ......its a excellent controller and I agree people that complain are people that don't have a wii u and think it's a gimmick ...smh ohwell their loss .......it's truly innovative
Hope not, just bought one for my daughter for the holidays. Might even buy Monster Hunter 3, for myself :D
It's not turning into a Wii, and that's what Nintendo needs. Wii U = Dreamcast....
dont diss the dreamcast
Dreamcast was a powerful masterpiece. Wii u is a weak (compared to x1 and ps4 anyway) console that tried to be innovative with its touchscreen controller. Ps4 also supports this with the vita. Wii u atm i think only has games going for it......It's a hassle to not even be able to play blu-ray (no dvd could of been dreamcast downfall)
Honestly, I have played DVDs on the 360. My mom kept complaining because there was this EXTREMELY loud "bzzzzzzzzzrrr" noise constantly coming from the machine. Gaming machines are not intended to do that. DVD players are for playing DVDs. Gaming consoles are for games.
Dreamcast failed because it was the product of a company that kept flip-flopping around with their hardware and were nearly broke. The Dreamcast failed because it could no longer be supported. Nintendo, on the other hand, is sitting on 16-billion dollars in the bank; a stack that isn't going to disappear overnight. PS3 didn't sell and still hasn't sold anywhere near what PS2 did; does that make it a failure? No, of course not. Try again.
Um, Nintendo are doing the same, they also keep flip-flopping around with their hardware, in many ways the Wii U and Dremcast remind of each other a lot, both have third party support, both, have a screen on the controller, and both were doomed when their competitors released their new consoles. Their competition are always ready to throw dollars around to get the software people want and in Microsoft's case spend millions of dollars to get the software people want, are Nintendo willing to do that? Are they just gonna say ''we have money in the bank''? Because quite frankly nobody gives a shit how much money they have, their competitors are giant worldwide multi billion dollar corporations, they have money too and are gonna do what it takes to stay ahead of the game, leaving Nintendo behind, unless Nintendo get their act togehter, that money is useless. People aren’t gonna buy a system that has less of what they want unless they’re diehard fans of those specific games, and in many cases they’d have to be such huge fans that the idea of paying $300 just to play that one game with a big maybe for anything else they’d want to play in the future would be acceptable to them.
@Rustynail Microsoft and Sony are giant corporations, but their gaming divisions aren't. "Um, Nintendo are doing the same, they also keep flip-flopping around with their hardware, in many ways the Wii U and Dremcast remind of each other a lot, both have third party support, both, have a screen on the controller, and both were doomed when their competitors released their new consoles. " 1. How are they flip-flopping with their hardware? 2. Huh, isn't the common argument that the Wii U DOESN'T have 3rd party support? 3. So the Wii U is doomed because the Dreamcast had a tiny screen with completely different functions? 4. The Wii U is far from doomed. In fact, its sales are just now starting to gain momentum. They're advertising a LOT, and that's sure to make a HUGE difference this month.
wait until mario kart 8, smash bros and zelda wii u come out then we'll discuss this topic wii u isn't gonna go down without a fight
Yeah lets wait for Mario Kart 8,9,10,11,12, Smash Bros who knows what and Zelda what number is the next? Nintendo need new IP's the old one are great but they need to mix it up a little bit.
going at the pace the have been, itll take another 30 f**kin years before they get up to MK12. How many CoDs are there?
Zelda u haven't even been announced. People said the same half a year ago saying wait for this and wait for that, shits aren't gonna change, face it Wii U is a flop.
This is like 2007 again with these doom and gloom articles. Nothing new to see here, move along...
you need first a goal to fail,thing what nintendo do not had clear or it was just wrong.
way tooooooooo early... and again another nintendo article about a doomed ninty product and what do you its heating up unlike a positive ninty article... hmmmmmm........
WiiU is the new Gamecube
Hopefully. That means it will get awesome games.
Bubble. It had so many great gems.
Wii U isn't a failure just because its not breaking records
"Has the Wii U failed?" yes this happened a year ago though
Nintendo is finding out that you can not count on super casuals to carry over. With that said, way too early.
I blame the Wii had Nintendo not went the casual route and made another console like the GameCube their core fanbase would be there supporting them instead of having moved on to newer and better systems. ;)
I love the Wii U. I've had many hours of fun with it, and I think most people that have one have had enjoyment with it too. If people enjoy it then it isn't a failure.
Anyone who says a system has failed only after one year should not be allowed to write anything. "A majority of consoles have their future success determined within the first year of its release" almost none of them have, you listed 3. There have been 50+ consoles. The fact that the author thinks Nintendo would cut the wii u short, means he doesnt get anything
Nintendo is also finding out that many of its core fans have wizened up to them- They knew (unlike me) from the start that Nintendo would not have good 3rd party support (and or that it would not last) - they also knew Nintendo would take its sweet time to release its games and that a Nintendo home console s basically a 1st party machine- They know the time to buy the Wii U is AFTER the games they (plus a decent library) want are released. They know that just because Nintendo says something, does not mean you can count on it- So these core but wise Nintendo fans will wait until MK and/or Smash and/or Zelda and/or perhaps Metroid and/or other IP and/or price cuts they want are released- and only then they will purchase the Wii u- but when they do buy it they will primarily purchase a handful of Nintendo games they want and probably little else - some of these purchases may even be on the 2nd hand market (including the Wii U itself) If I were to ever purchase another Nintendo console that would be how I would do it- I know I am not the only one I trust that Nintendo will make great games and very reliable hardware- I trust that when and if their console is "ready" it will be a good console for the Family w a variety of content- the question is- when/if the console will be ready for purchase and at what price
The console is ready for purchase right now with the best first year exclusives I have ever witnessed for a console. Thats why its the number 1 console sold in Japan
*thinks back to all the doom and gloom 3DS articles* HAHA nah wii u will be fine
Non nintendo guys arguing in this thread stop wasting your time, it will still pullout a 3ds revival despite being a totally different scenario and being outdone on the high and low end. And the tablet is the epitome of innovation despite being little more than a glorified map/inventory screen, and instead of watching beautiful nintendo games on your 40+ inch tv. You can watch it on a cheapass tiny low resolution portable tabletcontroller. The wiiu is dead in Europe on life support in Japan and somewhere between sickly and life support in na. It's tracking below the gc with the added bonus of being sold at a loss and hd gaming development expenses being alot more than wii/gc/3ds. For nintendo as a business it is a failure and a money sink. By the way @ mr genius shouting down bubble if you can't handle the truth, look up a old sci fi series called Babylon 5. And the vorloons saying on the truth. It might not be a failure, but it sure as shit hasn't been an overwhelming success either.
I really enjoy the Wii U and just Hate all the negative talk about the system, Its not the most powerful of the group but it is the funnest. But here is the list of problems that haunt Nintendo for this system 1. Calling it the Wii U-Parents probably think its a Wii ad on 2. The design of the system 3. Not putting a normal HDD in it, 32gb is stupid. I think 500gb would have been great same goes for the PS4 and X1 and, 1 TB HDD should be the size for those to. 4. NO ADVERTISING, Nintendo when I was growing up had ads on TV all the time on different networks. 5. When you create a gamertag on the Wii U its looked to that console so if you sell it and buy another one down the road you will not be able to just recover your gamertag. And all the games you bought on that account kiss them goodbye !!! 6. Not enough games through the 2013 calendar year. 7. "This is just a Personal option" Add an Achievement system like Star for hard, Fire Flower for average, and Mushroom for easy. I have all 3 consoles for this New generation and I enjoy them all.
I personally think the Wii u's sales won't increase drastically. When games like Pikmin 3, Wind Waker and 3D World came out, console sales rose and then dropped back close to pre-AAA release levels. The Wii U has arguably failed to secure the attention of the industry, in other words, making it Nintendo's Gamecube. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing either. But when compared to the PS4 (and even the Xbox One's) exclusive line up + 3rd party support + current sales trend, it's easy to see that the Wii U just won't reach those two in popularity any time soon. I think PS4 and Xone will surpass Wii U lifetime sales by the start of January.
nothing can save wiiu now. no, not even mario kart, smash bros or zelda. the fans may buy a wiiu when those games come, but the wiiu is still definitely a failure. nintendo will lose the vast majority of their console market share this gen. they will have also damaged their brand name. the chances of games like X making it to the west are very slim now. remember nintendo dragged their feet releasing xenoblade in the west, and that was with the extremely popular wii with its massive user base. so its not looking good for the only truly exiting game on wiiu- X. so yes, the wiiu is a failure
You need more than a cute Mario or luigi hat to understand gaming, and Iwata has proven he doesn't understand it. Launch platforms have to release with incredibly solid games, yet wii u and 3ds lacked those, and 3ds had to cut $80 of the price to start moving in the first few months. You have to supply good first party games during the first year of life of a console, yet the best game on the Wii U, Mario 3d world, arrives too late, and 3ds took ages to get a Zelda rehash. And for god sake, if you printed money with your previous console like the wii, invest in the future of the next gen machine!!! How could the wii u release in that state? no games, no marketing, no third party support, it's just awful. One more thing, when will Nintendo will create an amazing new franchise? It's always the same, new mario, new zelda, new pokemon, new mario kart, new donkey kong, over and over, those should be your cash cows, but Nintendo is playing safe so much it's not interesting anymore. I recently played Tearaway and that's the kind of game that Nintendo made long time ago, brilliant, inventive and completely new, but it seems that the magic is gone at Nintendo to create new things. How many games with Mario in it have they released in the last 10 years, probably about 100? It's time to try new things for gods sake.
You are so right, why would people sudddenly rush out and buy a Wii U? The games are out, but you gotta do what Sony and Microsoft have been doing for a long time.
Okey the Wii U failed. Can we move along, fanboys ? Just remember that the Wii, 3DS "failed",too.... :P And the Vita is a selling like hotcakes :P :D muahahahahahahha
I don't care if it did or not. I'm enjoying it.
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