By Paul Tassi: "It’s a little worrisome, writing this post. The opinion I’m about to put forth is one that can get you laughed out of game journalism, and one few people in the industry will even entertain."
They could just do handheld when it comes to consoles
I just don't feel buying a brand new home console only for Smash and Zelda.
Nintendo should just make a very powerful handheld that can be connected to the TV to act as a console and be played with a traditional controller. It'd be a console/handheld hybrid
Thats fine, but there are a lot more games than those two. Still I do agree with you and thats why I am waiting for X, Bayonetta 2, Shin Megami x Fire Emblem to come out. Once that drops I will also have Wonderful 101, and the other Nintendo 1st party games to enjoy with the console. Ultimately it is up to you to say what is or isn't right for you to buy. But a lot of people would say it only takes 1 game to justify the purchase of a console. Certainly PC gamers have spent hundreds of dollars and built computers around 1 game for years now. The argument that Nintendo needs to stop making hardware is just childish. As long as Nintendo makes games that people enjoy and buy than they should keep on making hardware. Certainly Nintendo could make a ton more money as a Software only developer, but I like having them in the console market. People are quick to dismiss Nintendo hardware, yet look at how heavily Sony is pushing the Vita as a second screen for the PS4 and how much Microsoft pushes Smartglass. Not mention how all the games now seem to have companion apps that act as a second screen with more information on the game via Apple and Android devices. Where does that come from if not the second screen that comes with the WiiU. Nintendo has a lot of good ideas and I hope they stay in the console market.
@cleft5 Sony has been pushing remote play since the psp has nothing to do with Nin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
What imXify said.. I want to play the few exclusives but I don't want to buy the system. It's just too much clutter to own and $300 I don't want to spend. It's also the $300 plus the games that Nintendo doesn't like to discount. When I look at there top first party games they stay at the MSRP longer than other games. Nintendo loves that high profit margin more so than Sony and Microsoft, so I don't see why it wouldn't be there best interest to just make software instead only breaking even on the hardware. I'm speaking of the WiiU by the way and not the 3DS. And they can even bargin with Sony and Microsoft. Make Sony and Microsoft work for them. Make Sony and Microsoft overpay for the Marios, Zeldas, and Metroids.
It was time to stop making consoles after the Gamecube - that would have been a successful exit from the video gaming industry. the wii just ruined their reputation
'tis time. Id love to see a Sony and Nintendo join forces to be a one mega Japanese electronics game company machine thingy :)
THe last time they even entertained the idea we ened up with the playStation, just think of what would happen if they tried again and actually followed through.
it will never happen, Sony gaming division was the result of Nintendo's betrayal with Sony. I think Nintendo and Sony will never work together in gaming division.
It wasn't a betrayal sony wanted profit of the games nintendo made on the partnership they were going to do with super nintendo which would be idiotic of nintendo to let sony have.
@ oricon People still believe that Sony wanted money from Nintendo games? lol no.
Sony wanted the Ip right's for the games.At least that's what I remember. Edit:Maybe it was publishing rights can't remember.
No, Sony didn't want the rights to any Nintendo games. People need to research more.
Doubt that will ever happen with the U.S anti monopoly laws
Well if I was writing some nonsensical stuff, I'd be worried about how people would perceive me too. Nintendo isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I fully expect to see another console launch from these guys.
Why? No one should have to worry about voicing their opinions in fact it should be encouraged. I also believe that Nintendo as of right now is out of touch with everything gaming related. The handheld only route should be something they should venture into. Also I would agree that most of their IP's will benefit from being on other platforms. ;)
get ready for the wii u one. comes with 1 extra pixel.
I cant really see why people disagree with you, seriously have everyone forgot about people trash talking the gamecube? then right after they have a massive success with the Wii and all of a sudden you expect them to die with just one lack luster console? People are becoming short term memory idiots!
Agree Nintendo is a dinosur. Their reputation is ruined with core gamers. The wii was a fad and was bought by a lot of casual gamers.those casual games have moved on to iPad, Android tablets Android phones and iPhones and Facebook browser games For free. I don’t think Nintendo can't market there console to core gamers. If They Don't get new management and go in a different direction in gaming they are finished in console gaming as a hardware maker But not handheld . Bubble me PLEASE
I would bubble up but I like Nintendo and the real core gamers should want to buy this system it has games and is getting some more great ones next year. I guess the core gamer these days are the ones who buy COD and the occasional action game, which if that is the case core gamers are as casual as someones mother playing Facebook games.
Being a core gamer doesn't mean you want to spend a ton of money on hardware. WiiU is $300 and I can barely afford an Xbox One much less 2 consoles. I would rather spend $300 on games. If you can only buy one console there is no way it would be Wii U if any game outside of Nintendo is your favorite. I remember when the Gamecube was the only concole I had. After beating Wind Waker, Pikmin, RESIDENT EVIL 4, Metroid, and Sunshine the system was used to play Smash Bros Melee only. (Melee is the best fighting game ever made tho). Those were good games but I can list them. If I started listing the games I beat and loved on 360 the list would be huge. In the Nintendo consoles had similar power, online capabilities, and 3rd party support it would absolutely be the One concole to rule them all. Or just make it cheaper. I got my WiiU for $100 dollars and its great for that price. Maybe even worth $200. Nice change of pace from slaying dragons, fighting wars, landing combos, building castles, and surviving apocalypses. I think hardcore gamers want to bust blocks and stump goombas but buying a concole just for that is just to expensive. Most people have to choose wisely when buying games because that won't get to buy another one for a while. I have a PC and WiiU at the moment and will get the Xbox One asap. I do think that every console should be able to satisfy a wide range of gamers. And most core gamers think Wii & Wii U alone is not enough.
Nintendo COULD make tons more sticking to software, but all they'd need is another Wii-level round of sales on a future console to make it worth it to stay in the hardware game. Gotta admit I would love to see us return to the days of Nintendo releasing cutting edge hardware and games for core gamers like with the N64. I thought some of their best games ever were released in that era. They still got it- would be cool to see some generation-leading core games with a Nintendo flavor in the future.
The only decent Wii U game I want is X. Everything else is just rehashed or too safe
If you want to play the games you have to buy the consoles. The writers of these types of articles obviously do not want to play Nintendo games very much if they don't want to buy the only machine that will play them. You can't just say "omg omg i love Nintendo games so much, but i refuse to buy the consoles and the games until they shut down half of the hardware development the company does and move it all to other consoles"
Writer spends too much time trying to deflect criticism. "Please don't hate me for saying this." Man up, post your beliefs and let the chips fall where they may.
nintendo have something like 2bn in the bank, no way they're going to abandon all the wii u owners
Nintendo won't but 3rd party has. That's the problem. I love nintendo games but until a severe price drop happens, I'm not shelling out $300+ for a system that'll play a few nintendo games.
Oh you would have bought one if it would have inferior 3rd party titles?
It's something closer to $10bn...before you take assets into account. They also have 0 debt. ;) If them losing a few hundred million a couple years in a row means they should quit the hardware business...Sony and MS should have dropped out a long time ago...seeing as they lost around $6bn each with their last gen systems. MS has lost even more overall when you factor in the original Xbox. Even if the Wii U only reaches Gamecube levels, Nintendo will ride it out and do something new in 4ish years. Just like always.
Nintendo's IP's would be enough to keep them in the fight if they'd stop making such weird consoles. Even now with the Wii U they aren't exactly out of it, and that's considering what a weird ass POS the Wii U is. They have the ip they need to see them through.
oh yeah this guys so brave for writing another stupid nintendo should stop making consoles article. LEts all stand up and applaud him for missing the point of why nintendo make consoles entirely.
Fanboys like you seriously need to chill out..
Hardly, i'm just bored of reading this nonsense.
I do appreciate your opinion, however, Nintendo isn't doing so well with their original crowd base. Core games aren't being sold to them anymore.
Really, Nintendo has until the end of the 2014 calendar year before they NEED to do a swan song. If sales increase considerably over the next 400 days or so, they'll be fine. If they'd like to remain in the home hardware realm, they may need a new machine that 1ups Sony and Microsoft from a power standpoint. They'd probably make more money just developing games for Sony and Microsoft's systems, possibly even PC, then use that enhanced awareness to sell 3DS's and games for that machine.
They could put out a console that has the equivalent of 2 i5 4670's and two 7990's and it wouldn't matter. It would still be "Lol Nintendo is for kids." The Gamecube did more at launch than the Xbox did in its lifetime, mostly because Factor 5 was insane...but still. Did it matter? No...because Nintendo "is for kids" Selling games for Sony/MS...while keeping the handheld business........that doesn't even make sense. From any standpoint. They would actually lose money overall by going third party. Instead of getting paid royalties from whatever third parties put games out, they would have to pay them. They would also be thrust into a development environment that they don't understand. Even though they have come right out and said that HD development has been tougher than they anticipated, they are still working within an environment they have worked with forever. The guts in the Wii were based off of the Gamecube, and the guts in the Wii U are based off of the Wii. They are far more evolved and BC was worked in rather than being built in...but the architecture is the same. Switching over would cripple development, drive up costs and they wouldn't make nearly as much with their sales. It would be a downward spiral. And it's not going to happen.
I just can't agree with that. Wii, for example, didn't just have Mario and Zelda games. There are a lot of good games, like Xenoblade, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, Metroid Other M and Red Steel. And it was profitable for Nintendo, so don't say that home consoles isn't a business for Nintendo. Even the GameCube, with its 20 million units sold represented a profit for Nintendo thanks to the software. I'm confident that Wii U will be a worthy console in the future and Nintendo won't abandon home consoles for a while.
Creating current-gen hardware on the eve of next-gen is a big culprit. Marketing is nonexistent. Their (still) lack of a real focus of an online network in an online world doesn't push anything forward. 3rd party support dwindling down to almost nothing isn't selling systems. Lack of any new/interesting IPs isn't expanding their appeal. They do make great 1st party games, the few that there are. But I guess we're seeing people just don't feel it's worth it if you're missing out on 90% of what everyone else is playing. Nintendo seems to be trying to make the Wii U a complementary console to your next gen system, rather than making the Wii U the total package.
which I have no problem with. I own a Wii U and a PS4. I am burning through BF4 at the moment on my PS4, but then guess what, no new titles until February/March 2014, so that means I have plenty of time to devote back to my Wii U. My PS4 and Wii U will sit side-by-side comfortably for the next few years.
The PS4 is going to be my main platform. I will be buying a Wii U btw. But c'mon. Nintendo isn't going anywhere. They have a lot of money and they've got the handheld market on lock. Sure, the Wii U is struggling. A lot actually. I don't think it'll be a flop in the long run, especially with the game lineup it has next year. For some people next year is too late, but for a lot of people including me, it isn't.
The way I see it, the Wii-U is doing pretty bad, but the 3DS is doing great. I can understand why some people would write articles about Nintendo leaving the home console business, not so much when they say Nintendo should get out of the hardware business as a whole. Why would they exit the handheld market? It's the same as saying Sony's PS3 and PS4 are doing great, but the Vita isn't selling very well, Sony should spin off the entire Playstation division. Or, the Surface line from Microsoft isn't selling like hotcakes, Microsoft should sell all of their hardware divisions, including Xbox. Point is, there's no way Nintendo won't at least stay in the hardware business until their next handheld. If their next handheld is a failure, and the Wii-U still isn't selling, then maybe they will go software only, but until then it would be completely stupid for them to exit the hardware business. And, the idea that Nintendo should keep their handheld division, but make 3rd party games for home consoles is about as dumb as it gets. It makes much more sense for Nintendo to focus all of their studios and IPs on their handhelds. Nintendo's IPs are what's selling the 3DS, if you can find these IPs on other platforms, people are not as likely to buy the 3DS or whatever handheld they might come up with in the future. This article is something I could expect from some hit-seeking website, I'm disappointed to see Forbes making such an article. TL;DR There's no way Nintendo will leave the hardware business altogether before launching a new handheld. And there's no way we will see a Nintendo game on either PS4 or Xbox One for as long as Nintendo is making a home console or a handheld. If the next handheld is a failure, we might see Nintendo go third party, but there's no way it happens until then.
Sounds like somebody wants to play Zelda on his Xbox One...
What a piss poor article. generalizations, no fact, and just essentially for hits. When PS3 was third place, should sony get out of hardware? No, the answer is no. Who cares if Wii U is third place. If it makes Nintendo profit, its fine. People do this same factless doom and gloom every time. In fact this very same author thought 3ds would die to vita.
It's funny how some people think they know what they are talking about. Nintendo is pretty highlander, it's not anything that will break them.
I am not stating my opinion on who I believe should go because if you know my posting history you know I believe at least one of the hardware manufacturers is out to monopolize the market in their own greedy image to rake cash. There are other companies out for this as well. Nintendo isn't doing that. People who want Nintendo to go third party are just internet drum beaters. Nintendo know full well that the demand for their games isn't truly there on PS3 or Xbox. Its like people saying "I want Valve on Wii U". The demand is not truly there. If you want Nintendo games, buy Nintendo systems. I would support Nintendo over the nameless companies out to manipulate the market any day of the week.
I think Forbes should stop writing articles based on gaming. They've flip-flopped on Wii U like 4 times already. There is nothing wrong with Nintendo making consoles. Just like there is nothing wrong with Sony making portables. More competition is good for the industry as a whole. Some people are too freaking stupid to see this. Nintendo provides cheap affordable hardware for the whole family. Microsoft and Sony charge for online play. What if I don't want to pay for online play? I'm forced to pay? I really don't like these articles because its baseless, there is no raw or hard facts should quit making consoles. So what if Wii U sales are slow? So were the Gamecube's, and we still got some great games like Smash Bros, Viewtiful Joe, Sunshine and more. And is anybody thinking about the Japanese market? So the only home console relevant would be the PS4? That's the worse thing that could happen to the Japanese industry.
It may be time for journalists to write opinion pieces about opinions that are actually new.
Agreed. Only hanhelds. I love the games but the console is weak
well we know they are making games for the console already. they just need time
WTH are people talking about, nintendo strives from making games on their own console. Where was all this talk when the gamecube only sold 30 mil. nintendo took a risk with the wii u, most people dont even know the differences. However it also puts nintendo in a great position that they may not captialize on. Nintendo could relase a new system in 2 to 3 years, that give the wii u 4 to 5 years on the market and they will enter the market mid life of the other systems with a better graphic engine and better system. They are fine.
Just because the Wii and WiiU are vastly different from the competition doesn't mean they are a bad console maker. Have they made bad business decisions with the WiiU? Yes. Doesn't mean they are an insult to consoles and shouldn't make them anymore. Every business makes mistakes. Sony had a few bad years with the PS3, yet they are still in the game and kicking ass. Nintendo has had, what, one bad year with the WiiU? Doesn't mean they can't come back and carve their own successful niche. We can't judge Nintendo off just the WiiU's first year. I'm sure a lot of people wrote off the 3DS when it flopped initially, yet it's kicking ass in the handheld dept and been at the top of console sales charts. As I said earlier, EVERY business makes mistakes. One blunder is not a prophecy for the future. The Wiiu has value and will grow in value, Nintendo needs to better communicate that value. I believe a lot of doubt arises because of the lack of faith in Iwata, that the Wii fell into his lap and he never did anything particularly right. Where the WiiU goes from here will tell us a lot about Nintendo as a whole
Why can nintendo see it they would dominate the market if they can build a top of the line consel to rival the competition. They might not have the best online service but all gamers need is reliable multiplayer/cross game chat/ some type of video apps. They can easily live off multiplatform games while relying on their exclusives to seal the deal.they dont need to go out of their way to create new ips.wii/wiiu is becoming the zune of nintendo
lol someone sounds mad as fuck he cant play smash and Bayonetta 2 on his ps4/X1 haha.
We need Nintendo just in case is the industry crash and burn again.
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