"Destiny has always represented a new beginning for our team. It was born from brave possibilities. We dreamed of a renewed and independent Bungie. We found partners willing to bet big on some crazy new ideas with us." - Bungie
Ex- employees Hope Studio Gets "Consolidated Into Sony"
Former Bungie employees speak out in a new report, blaming greed and leadership for the studio’s troubles, and say full Sony consolidation is the best way forward.
Interesting article, even with some actual names of the people voicing their thoughts.
I think that we've had enough similiar situations at other studios and publishers already, hell even completely different businesses, to know that OF COURSE it's always about hostile environments at work and the search for rather effortless profits than causing excitment with great ideas.
All deflecting statements, wether from managements or other people in charge, have always, literally always been untruthful. Always.
And it's so silly.
Nothing of this crap causes a nuclear war.
But all the people in charge act like everything is top secret f'n CIA like intel, trying everything to not stand up for their mistakes.
I mean it's pathetic, it really is. In the brand scheme of it all it's truly pathetic.
Let me just fix this:
'Everything Bad Happening in 'The world' Is Because of Greed'
Bravo captain obvious.
Right I actually agree with you here. Something doesnt' seem right almost like Sony wants them to look bad because it is trying to takeover. I can't figure out Sony's intentions here but they are already wholely owned so full consolidation means that they can bring in their own management. And honestly this is probably NOT what Bungie wanted.
"Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment."
Exactly!
Phil allowed Pete Hines to run the show at Bethesda and we got Redfall as result. Now that he´s gone and Bethesda reports directly to Matt Booty at XGS, things are definitely getting better!
It´s past time to Sony to take over Bungie and fire that POS Pete Parsons.
Sony has literally given these guys chance after chance, they gave them an extra BILLION to try and keep talent along with telling them to sort their s**t out
What else can they do here? They gave them free reign, extra money and they've spat in their faces.
If they took full control when they bought them they might have been able to salvage them.
Bungie will be torn to shreds with Sony in full control. Another addition to the cemetery like Zipper or Sony Liverpool
Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment.
Whatever mental gymnastics you just went through must be exhausting.
It sounds like you have some baggage from Microsoft's acquisition spree.
Bungie was indie, so they depended on in game monetization. Sony makes money from other sources: music, movies, psn, ps hardware...
...so devs are hoping by full Sony consolidation they will cut down the monetization part, and make things easier for them...
...but keep in mind, Sony bought them because of their monetization and live service model and design, so much so they tried to make every Sony IP into a live service spinoff.
So I don't see much change in anything, for us consumers, if Sony takes full control.
i don't think you know what the word Indie means. Bungie has be under the hood of MS for a long time and basically were under the actiblizz hood while they were making Destiny. They are one of the biggest AAA studios, the polar opposite of indie. Technically they weren't owned, but they made deals with Acti like they were. Indie refers to smaller independent studios and don't need in game monetization at all to work. Hades for example has 0 ingame purchase options yet made a lot of money.
Marathon has always been teetered on the edge of future failure, but now that seems set in stone after recent events.
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Paul Tassi is a known xbox/MS stooge.
Saying that, Marathon looks so meh to me, absolutely no interest at all.
Once he wrote an article characterizing Horizon Forbidden West, which came out over a year after the PS5 released, as a PS5 "launch game." Assuming this was just a mistake, I pointed out to him that "launch games" for a console are widely understood to be the games that come out on the day of a console's launch or in the immediate window thereafter. He responded and told me that he understood "launch game" to mean a game that launches, which would mean that every game that releases on a console is a "launch game" for that console.
I've basically ignored everything he has said since then. But I don't care about Marathon either way; playing Hunt: Showdown turned me off this genre pretty much.
He's a Sony and Destiny fanboy. Has been forever. He plays Destiny 2 on PS5, what are you even talking about?
If I was running Sony why would I not try to have bungie reboot Killzone and have it as their Halo. Honestly I don't know how Sony could justify that 3.6 billion purchase price. Insomniac games at 256 million has been their greatest acquisition in Playstation history for what they have already delivered and what's the pipeline
The smart money would have given them killzone but they brought them to be a pillar of their live services investment and seeming have no interest in allowing them near a single player story driven game again.
The bigger mistake imo is not having them do any SP projects. Just all LS stuff.
Also want to clear up some misinformation on my part about Marathon. It wasn't due to creative differences as to why Jade left it was due to early internal Play tests were reportedly not received very well. Which probably prompted her to leave. My fault on that.
It does look like ass shit.
Would pulling the plug now make any difference or is Bungie thoroughly cooked regardless?
Bungie: "We immediately investigated a concern regarding unauthorized use of artist decals in Marathon and confirmed that a former Bungie artist included these in a texture sheet that was ultimately used in-game.
This issue was unknown by our existing art team, and we are still reviewing how this oversight occurred.
We take matters like this very seriously. We have reached out to @4nt1r34l to discuss this issue and are committed to do right by the artist."
"However, one thing Marathon’s been almost universally praised for is its art style."
Eh, I've heard a lot of dislike for the bleak art style. "Universally praised" would mean that hardly anyone dislikes it. This is a pretty dishonest article. I'm personally not a big fan of it either.
https://gamerant.com/marath...
I don't mind the art style so to speak but watching footage, the world looked really bland and lacked detail, reminded me of a mid budget VR game.
They said it was universal so you might just unaware just how much you do in fact praise its art style.
I have a hard time finding anyone who is praising the art style. All I see are complaints.
Probably because the boo boys are more vocal. I mean most of us haven’t really played it and its still in development, so how can we praise it? Meanwhile the boo boys don’t need objectivity to criticize a game that has not launched yet.
The art style, I personally like it. But I also need at least a good lore to get into games as I am usually not a multiplayer only kind of gamer.
I have never seen anyone praise Marathon for its art style, in fact, I think it's one of the things that is universally hated about this game.
Since the early days of destiny, Bungie has cemented itself as the undisputed King of being dishonest while technically not lying. They simply don't hype things up or make statements without some kind of bs. Their dishonest marketing speak bs has become their entire brand for me.
You have to look at politics to find worse.
At least they’re trying to do right and admitted quickly that it was stolen. I give credit when credit is due.
I also dig the new art style, I know most people are mixed.
"I give credit when credit is due."
No you don't and this is an absolute lie. You aren't giving credit to the artist they stole from you're giving credit to the thief. You're a disgusting liar if anything.
I knew it was DOA from the trailer, yeah, there's no recovering from this, it's Concord 2.0. I dread to see how many more of these Playstation had in production before they changed direction and cancelled the ones that were in the early stages.
worldwide launch of Destiny will happen on September 9th. Accordingly, the Destiny Beta will kick off in the summer of 2014, available first on PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3.
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September...I could end up being poisoned by then
NOOOOOO!!! I can't wait that long (sarcasm) what do I do? I don't want to wait that long for next gen but this is the first game I've seen that makes me want next gen. I don't want to buy if there is nothing I want. NOOOOOOO!!! WHY Destiny, why make me wait this long. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Lol...So my local GAME store has been taking pre-orders for a game that's a year from release?
They said February was expected beta date. How long do they need a beta to be?
So much for expecting Spring...