Microsoft may unlock "hidden" Xbox One performance boosts in time, suggests Witcher 3 dev

"It will happen, eventually, but right now we are preparing for it." [OXM]

[forcefullpower]

lololol. We back on the secret sauce crap again.

[dirigiblebill]

This isn't Microsoft, it's CD Projekt, and what the guy says is completely plausible - *and* applicable to both platforms, if that makes you feel any better.

The defensiveness and paranoia on these forums beggars belief. They're just games consoles, people, and yes, there's a precedent for the idea that they *will* become more "powerful" over time - that's to say, that developers will find ways to do more and more impressive things with them, whether because MS has "opened doors" or because those devs are more comfortable with the platform.

[AsimLeonheart]

Well, some other developers were also reporting the power of the cloud like Turn 10 but that didnt turn out to be true in the end so they are not always plausible. MS executives too were claiming that the power of the cloud can make Xbone four times powerful. We cant even trust the "reliable" official sources these days because of all the lies and moneyhatting. CD Projekt also said that ESRAM is easy to use and PS4 is a little harder to develop for which is the complete opposite of what everybody else on the face of the Earth has been saying.

http://n4g.com/news/1403344...

That does not makes them look very credible. MS has been known to influence media, developers, retailers and publishers to put a positive spin on things so I don't know if I should trust this hidden power of the Xbone just because CDProjekt is saying it even if it is just an API. Remember how MS was hyping XNA at the start of the last gen and it will be a major advantage over PS3? Now people don't even remember it.

[malokevi]

"*and* applicable to both platforms, if that makes you feel any better. "

It's funny how you have to say that to deter fanboys form jumping all over you and launching personal insults.

""It's new ways to do something. Both companies are already using all the knowledge they have from previous products to make the API tailored to games ... so I expect that they will do something like, 'OK now you can do this; it's extremely risky - only do this if you know what you're doing! But you can do this.'

"It will happen, eventually, but right now we are preparing for it.""

Exciting. Not even remotely unexpected. No need to go all sissy-boy Allen Alda on it, people. ^^ game consoles, for all of our enjoyment. We should find mutual enjoyment in respect in the hobby that we all share and care for so deeply.

This generation is just gettn started. Ooh, boy howdy!

[Ultra]

Meanwhile... both Misterxmedia and Mistercteam are still playing drama with their 'insiders' on X1's 'stacked' APU.

None of their insiders are truthful, the members are being played to believe.

[Gazondaily]

Wtf are you on about Asim? Put your tinfoil hat away.

This is quite interesting but I don't see any reason why developers can't do the same with the PS4 to be honest. Anything MS or developers do now will sadly only be to play catch up with the PS4.

[Yodagamer]

@asimleonheart they were simply referring to the api Microsoft uses. Which makes sense as they have more knowledge of direct x.

[erathaol]

@dirigiblebill - I know exactly what your talking about, the hidden technique Microsoft has trained into Xbox One, is none other than the same Technique used by the legendary fighter who saved the world more than once, Son Goku.

Kaioken!!!

[Enemy]

If they could have, they would have. Their weaker RAM and weaker GPU can't be unlocked. They'd need new components to install, which will increase the price of Xbone.

With CD Projekt being a Windows developer at heart, they're just trying to remain neutral.

[DarkHeroZX]

@erathol

And the PS4 was trained by the mighty Bills.

http://dai.ly/x10261z

lol and if you think Goku does any better later in this movie....... lol

[its_JEFF]

@dirigiblebill

I agree, what they allude to seems applicable to both platforms. This happens during every generation, that's why games look/perform better later in a consoles life cycle. Once Sony/MS workout optimizing their OS they can open up more RAM for games.

I really don't know why this is news to anyone or why anyone is getting defensive over this. In 2 yrs MS cloud compute will be more implemented, but by then Sony will also already have their Could compute solution up and running, reports suggest. These companies will NOT let the other get too much of a leg up.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Asim "Well, some other developers were also reporting the power of the cloud like Turn 10 but that didnt turn out to be true in the end so they are not always plausible."

(rubs head wow) Looks like its time once again for me to dismember some serious crap logic.

So just because you never played the new Forza you say the cloud stuff is fake. Please tell me your not that dense guy.

"The whole reason you’ll be at the mercy of other racers’ tastes in tribal vinyls, however, is because of Forza 5’s seriously cool new Drivatar AI. In single-player, Forza 5 will pit you against opponents which race according to the real-life driving behaviours of the Forza players they’re based on. Racing is a lot more dynamic and unpredictable as a result. Some Drivatar opponents take unconventional lines into corners, and many are happy to pound several cars wide into bends that regular, computer AI would have tracked around in a polite convoy."

"It's also worth mentioning that even when you aren’t playing Forza 5, the AI based on your behaviour is, so each time you log in you’ll collect credits based on your Drivatar’s performance." IGN. http://www.ign.com/articles...

ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. All you gotta do is look and read reviews.

"We cant even trust the "reliable" official sources these days because of all the lies and moneyhatting."

Ok so a well known and talented PC devs aren't stating the popular opinion. And the popular opinion is PS4 is easier to develop for then X1. According to the community. When in fact CD has both consoles in their offices programming for both. And they state the X1 is easier to develop for.

So do we believe a popular opinion of this community or what CD Projkts are doing with the console. That's a easy one I would have to be stupid to go with the popular opinion. Btw I say "popular opinion because there's no official source from official devs stating the PS4 is easier to make then X1.

"CD Projekt also said that ESRAM is easy to use and PS4 is a little harder to develop for which is the complete opposite of what everybody else on the face of the Earth has been saying."

I don't remember reading that anywhere in their statement. And people agree with you even though your lying through your freakin teeth? Wow the community here is officially not credible for anything besides ignorance and lies. So I guess stating the "opposite" of what "everyone else was saying" makes the devs not credible because they simply have a different outlook on the hardware?

Someone save this child...

"MS has been known to influence media, developers, retailers and publishers to put a positive spin on things so I don't know if I should trust this hidden power of the Xbone just because CDProjekt is saying it even if it is just an API."

More tinfoil typical doomsday fanboy garbage comment nothing new here. Polygon and MS are the ones with the twisted relationship. In your world anyone who has a different outlook then yours is moneyhatting. And MS paying people to say the opposite.

I guess you Wellsaid is fanboys desperately looking for some sort of damage control to cling to. In your that savior.

I don't know any normal person who would take your little comment serious. Its a horrible horrible post.

[AsimLeonheart]

@AngelicIceDiamond.

What is up with you fanboys that you get so angry and hysterical as soon as somebody says anything negative about your console of choice? Cant you carry on a mature conversation without attacking and insulting the other person? That is what makes a person a "child".

1) I was talking about graphical improvements and AI or physics calculation when I referred to the power of the cloud being a lie. Did the promise materialize as MS made it in the beginning? Did Xbone become 4 times powerful when connected to the internet? Nope and that is why I called it a lie.

2) Did you read or check the link I provided? You have already posted there and yet you claim that my statement is a lie. Torok made the statement that I have referred to.

3)I am also referring to developer opinion and not public opinion. If 9 out of 10 developers say that PS4 is easy to develop then common sense dictates that we believe the majority and not the one that meets your preconceptions. Even tech websites have made the same statement after hardware analysis and the "resolutiongate" issue also proved it.

4) As for MS influencing others; read this,

http://www.theguardian.com/...

http://www.corporatewatch.o...

http://www.techrepublic.com...

http://techland.time.com/20...

Microsoft goes as far as to manipulate even the US government. The company is well known corporate bully. Do you really think they will play nice in the gaming industry?

5) If someone's views are different than yours, then it does not makes them horrible. That is highly arrogant and self-centred of you. I have been gaming long before your precious Xbox existed and I know what I talk about. I regret having to write this whole essay to your response. You wasted so much of my time. Grow up a little instead of getting angry over a piece of electronic hardware.

[Irishguy95]

Well...i'll keep this short. As far as im concerned, CDprojekt Red are one of...if not the most trustworthy source, when it comes to anything tech or gaming related. They specifically stayed indie so they don't have to be influenced like most other devs out there.

[Ritsujun]

Tehh clOuDz gonna make it 4x more pawaaful.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Asim Awww that's cute you think I'm a fanboy. No I see some serious flaws in your statement in which you still didn't address, so let me make it clear and address it for you.

"1) I was talking about graphical improvements and AI or physics calculation when I referred to the power of the cloud being a lie. Did the promise materialize as MS made it in the beginning? Did Xbone become 4 times powerful when connected to the internet? Nope and that is why I called it a lie."

For one you change the subject here. You were talking about Turn 10.

"Well, some other developers were also reporting the power of the cloud like Turn 10 but that didnt turn out to be true in the end so they are not always plausible."

We're not talking about how the X1 being more powerful when plugged in all that. I read that claim but that's not what we're talking about here. Maybe you lost track or your dodging what I just told you, I dunno.

"2) Did you read or check the link I provided? You have already posted there and yet you claim that my statement is a lie. Torok made the statement that I have referred to."

I read that link in no where did he say the ESRAM was easy to make. This is what you said. "CD Projekt also said that ESRAM is easy to use and PS4 is a little harder to develop for"

Remember? CD did not state that in the link. hes talking about the API.

"3)I am also referring to developer opinion and not public opinion. If 9 out of 10 developers say that PS4 is easy to develop then common sense dictates that we believe the majority and not the one that meets your preconceptions. Even tech websites have made the same statement after hardware analysis and the "resolutiongate" issue also proved it."

I agree with part of your comment. The developer opinion isn't coming from AAA's in fact the developer opinion so far is both systems are the same. The developers your probably thinking of is Indies. With that being said I don't know any dev that are comparing those 2 directly. The "resonlutiongate" is a good example of gamers as well as game outlets in thinking the PS4 is easier to develop for. It makes sense devs think the same even if they're not stating it.

"As for MS influencing others; read this,"

All that has nothing to do with gaming. Your using those sources as claims or evidence that MS has altered certain game outlets to say nice things about their console? That's tinfoil hat talk man come on surely your not that paranoid. So according to you if any dev says otherwise the "popular opinion" M$ paid possibly them off? I dunno how to respond to that.

"If someone's views are different than yours, then it does not makes them horrible. That is highly arrogant and self-centred of you"

I can't say the same for myself but I can say the exact same to you.

Headline: "Microsoft may unlock "hidden" Xbox One performance boosts in time, suggests Witcher 3 dev."

Your logic. These guys possibly being paid off by MS because they're not stating the popular opinion. Which is opposite of their statement.

You: "We cant even trust the "reliable" official sources these days because of all the lies and moneyhatting."

You sound hurt really because these guys did not state the popular opinion. In which is opposite from yours.

Looks like you felt the wrath of my logic. Its not my fault your first statement is filled with flaws, tinfoiled, lies contradictory statements that were easy for me too dismember. Be careful next, or I'll get you again.

[Anarki]

Microsoft, really, you need to stop trying to hype up your console. We know it's not as powerful as the PS4 and nothing you can do will make it remotely close.

[ShinMaster]

Why would they need to wait to unlock "hidden power"?
Why limit the console?

[L0L_WUT]

well I guess someone needs to protect their console of choice ;)

[mcgrottys]

@AsimLeonheart

What? almost everything I've heard was positive about drivatars (XB1 cloud) and Forza 5 is the in my opinion the best looking game out now sure it is a racing game so that's expected. However the physics are also nothing to scoff at and that's from the hardware.

Also CDProject is not a developer who's credibility should be questioned. They now what they are doing more so than it seems a lot of other devs. Witcher 2 is one of the most jaw dropping games I've ever played (I can't speak for the 360 version I've only played it on PC) and not only does it look amazing it is also optimized very well (something it seems a lot of devs have trouble with).

XNA is something that I think was a lost opportunity. Sure you may have forgotten it but all of those XBL indy games were made using it so it's not something one could say wasn't used. XNA was just introduced too late, at first it didn't have enough features for a large game and most devs already had formed their own engines for the console so they had not need for it. Another thing that people didn't like about it was that it used C# which was still fairly new at the time and lacks some features people wanted, however C# 5.0 is my favorite programming language because its almost as low level as C++ but has aspects of Java that devs enjoy however it is for microsoft OS's only.

I've used XNA and it is quite a powerful tool and the big plus for it is that there were no licensing fees for it when you developed on PC and to submit your games to Windows Phone or the 360 it was only $99 (for college students).

The reason why MS has missed out on XNA is because as of now it no longer is being updated so it doesn't work with Windows 8 apps or Xbox one but I have a feeling they'll release XNA 5.0 for XB1 in the near future.

Kinda off topic: I wonder what japanese devs will do with Xbox compute seeing as how Japan already has GB speeds for the same price as in the US. I have a feeling japan we'll be seeing some crazy games from japan soon.

[SilentNegotiator]

They're also pretty much the only developer claiming that Ps4 is more complicated to develop on than Xbox One.

Coincidence?

[Agent1]

Thank god.. Someone with brains here.

[jebabcock]

The article said that both consoles would do this as it has been done in the past. He also indicated he wasnt referring to hardware because that was all already known.

Let's not read something that isn't there. We all know software wise both will work hard to squeeze the Performance out of the consoles. Nothing special b ring said here it was just a nice way to avoid the actual question.

[RumbleFish]

Of course developers will know the hardware better in some time, but don't expect big differences like we saw on PS2 and PS3 in the past. These patforms are x86 and no powerful but exotic Cell.

[Eonjay]

a story of "maybes" and "hidden powers"

[SLUG]

thats very true

[MWong]

I read the article and it basically sounds like something everybody knows. No hidden or secret powers. The guy from CD Projekt is just saying over time developers will have a better grasp of the hardware. Which makes sense. The title is very misleading.

What I find funny is they are the first dev's to say the PS4 was complicated to develop on and the XBO was simple. Go figure.

[AgitatedOcelot]

This article is only going to make misterx go fully off the deep end. There'll be no shutting him up now.

Actually what am I saying, he already went off the deep end, and dug a hole so deep he's probably technically in Australia.

[bartender64]

Better that it doesn't, the witcher 3 guy says that the unlock of stuff is not hardware related, but is a software unlock, likely to be new API or something.

[malokevi]

"It's not like they would open up new hardware or anything - there's nothing new in there," Török cautioned. "

Yeah, right on bud! Let's all say the first thing that comes to our mind, because being negative is totes cool! Screw reading articles!

[pyramidshead]

I doubt it. Misterx has just been recently exposed for being a fraud, including his insider.

Ironically, by one of the supposed 'insiders' that was giving out juicy info for the XB1(which never became true):
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2lj...

Judging by how easily misterx was duped it's kinda hard to have even a 0.001% shred of confidence in the 'insider dailys'.

Top lel.

[ziggurcat]

@ pyramid:

oh dear... that's sad. sadder still that there's people who gobble his garbage up, and believe everything he says.

i wonder where he's getting the "black silicon" nonsense from then...

[JohnnyTower]

That's the power of the Cloud! Which is located in Narnia.

[DARK WITNESS]

Wrong !!

The power of the Cloud is located in the xbone power brick. I know this because the xbone power brick makes a humming noise. If you combine all the humming noises of all the xbone power bricks in the known universe they create the humming intelligence that is also known as the gaming god! This god lives in a cloud, The Cloud !!

It's all true because I said so !

[ALLWRONG]

The only reason Sony fanboys fear "the cloud" so much is because they know it's real, and Sony is falling behind.

Sony should be able to figure it out by the time the PS4 ends, if they don't go broke first.

[Mike134nl]

Secret sauce not really, giving developers more or better tools to develop to the bone of the systems very likely.
Since they are comparing it to the 360 its likely referring to tools used to better manage the edram buffering in the 360 or in this case buffering tools for the esram in the xb1.

[redwin]

Do you all remember the time when there was no phisical games for the Xbox one, that's the way they designed the box, then they had to change their way to disks. I think there is something there that will add to the power of the box later, if they entice people to buy the downloads instead of the disks. This is not entirely bad! It's progress, if they can pull it off . Soon Sony will copy it and they'll be better for it.

[jebabcock]

Redwin... What are you taking about? Even with the disks the content is copied to the hd and ran from there.... At least the ps4 does. Pretty certain the xb1 does too... Your comment sounds ridiculous....

[SLUG]

xbox one will win

[JsonHenry]

Having newer and better dev kits certainly helps. But won't make a mind blowing difference unless they finally man up and start using the ESRAM to store ~6BGs of textures using DX11.2. Or maybe using AMD's Mantle to help out some.

But I don't think we'll see this sort of coding any time soon. Later in the life of the console it should help though.

[extermin8or]

hmmm 32mb of RAM store around 6GBs of textures.... nope I know the RAM runs quite fast but sending data through it isn't storing it...technically and it'll still take time.

[JsonHenry]

@extermin8or - you're just playing with semantics here and it is disingenuous of the final product and the facts.

Here is an example of using only 16Mb of RAM to render 3GBs of textures on screen. (so the math adds up, 32mb=6GB of on screen textures)

http://www.ign.com/boards/t...

[kasser]

Why not? didn't you see games getting better with system updates?

If you took an xbox 360 dated all the way back to 2005 and put inside it Halo 4, would it run without a recent update? have you asked yourself why? [the same is applied with PS3]

It is obvious that performance will differ along the way by shrinking down the dashboard activity on the CPU/Memory to give more power to developers. Also they could enhance the drivers for more power, just like with video cards on the PC.

[Xer0_SiN]

maybe hidden performance like some form of add on like the 32x? hidden performance...LOL.

[BallsEye]

It's the dev talking, an amazing dev. Waiting for sony fanboys to start talking crap about CD Project Red for this. Isn't it funny how no one had problem on n4g with CDPR untill this article? You guys are unbelievable.

[Pogmathoin]

I see well said marked above forcefullpower... oh dear god N4G.... and it was the developer talking..... such complete endorsed BS..... I see many people making great comments, getting slaughtered because they do not go with the official Sony is great policy. But speak total crap and you are a hero....

[SonyPS360]

It's always a conspiracy with Microsoft, isn't it?

Even stupid "lololol" comments earn a "well said" on here.

Eugh. Fanboys need to die already.

[PudgeySan]

I am assuming they are talking about how to leverage the 32mb esram as it's the only thing that probably wont achieve full potential for a couple of years if ever.. I think it would be cool if they could but for now I'm gonna stick with my PS4. I was just thinking though.. You probably won't see it utilized as much in third party titles but I hope it helps there first party titles.. that would be cool for One owners.

[VforVideogames]

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!!!!!!

[SITH]

When games are optimized, they run perfectly fine on the Xbox one with high resolution and high stable FPS.

[SITH]

You are clearly trolling and absolutely did not read the article which desputed exactly what that rumor claimed.

"It's not like they would open up new hardware or anything - there's nothing new in there," Török cautioned.

[UltimateMaster]

The only secret recipe I want to know are the KFC secret spices and herb.

Anyway, sucks for early games who can't use that power, at all.

The PS4 can still squeeze out much more RAM by optimizing the OS so that it takes less power to run and allocate more to the games.

[N7KIRK]

I read these incredibly long statements and can't help but wonder how sad your lives really are. You talk about your game companies like you're tied at the limb. As if Microsoft doing better than Sony and vice-versa actually affects your life in meaningful ways. It's like you'll lose your house if you're proven wrong about something. How you care so much, is just sad. Grow up, and get your priorities strait, people. I love video games, but you people are an embarrassment.

[popup]

Read the original article:-

Right before he said the headline, he said...

"Balázs Török did flag up one unusual thing about the Xbox 360 from around 2007/2008, though."

360

[lpc]

Ye panchod bakwas kar raha ha xbox tati ha ma yaway nay Dicksoft say paisay liye hain kutti ka bacha ha ye gandu dali ma ka yaar... Ps4 best ha

[PSX04]

very Ridiculous news from very ridiculous company about very ridiculous device .... just for marketing

[AceBlazer13]

Maybe hidden paywalls

[Dehnus]

Sony fanboys, now attacking the people behind GOG.COM (DRM FREE Gaming) for being pro DRM and for paywalls.

How dare they release the Witcher DRM free! Microsoft money hatted them. Seriously...grow up.

I am no fan of either MS or Sony (Nintendo WOOHOO), but CD Project has my respect damnit!

[MadLad]

Funny how this is the only statement from CD Projekt that N4G seems to take into question . . .
It's like there is some sort of agenda here or something. Weird.

[Dakriz]

Yo man u right just like all the free games on psn all covered in paywall jizz wow u must know all to well about it AceBlazer13... thats why u so into paywall damn to think that lmao

DEHNUS

Theres no reasoning with the blind and mindless when they grow up they will c how the world really works and see how there beloved Sony MoneyHates even there own Customers but since there religion does mot let thwm see the light they criticize ms for what sony clearly does.

Oh and Sony lost my total trust when they proclaimed to destroy Sega Dreamcast with there ps2, how low can you go to brainwash ppl into believing in your hhate full lies.

[Nocando]

I am still salty to this day over Sony destroying the Dreamcast. Of course Sega helped with that but still.

[ALLWRONG]

So AceBlazer13 how do you like paying for PSN to play online now?

[GarrusVakarian]

That's the good thing about being a multi console gamer, if this turns out to be true then great! If not, then i still have my more powerful PS4.

[creatchee]

Yeah, you don't own an Xbox One. Not with your history here.

[GarrusVakarian]

You're right, i don't. I don't have the money for one yet. But i am getting one next year. You think just because i praise Sony so much that i don't also want to play X1 games? LOL, ill tell you what, ill do what i did with the last person that doubted i was getting an X1 and i will "track" you on here and send you a pic proving it when i own one, okay?

I should have worded my comment better, my bad. I didn't mean i was already an owner of an X1 and PS4...but i will be next year.

And by "your history on here" are you taking into account my 103 thousand gamerscore on the 360? Didn't think so.

@below

Not being a stalker, just proving myself to someone who can't comprehend that someone who dislikes MS still wants to play games exclusive to the X1. I put games before my bias.

[Mister_Dawg]

@Lukas

Dude don't become a stalker :-)

Its ok to have a preference about which console you want or like. I prefer Xbox which I think comes through clearly from most of my posts. Thats only come from being able to chat across multiplayer games with friends much easier. I do own a PS3 and I've enjoyed playing the exclusives on it too. Life's too short to hate. Enjoy your games :-)

[creatchee]

@Lukas

I'm not talking about your praise of PS4 (which is warranted - the PS4 is great hardware). I'm talking about your endless negative critiques and commentary in regards to the Xbox One. I know that I would never buy something that I complained about as much as you do the X1.

[GarrusVakarian]

"I'm talking about your endless negative critiques and commentary in regards to the Xbox One."

Negative critique of MS, get it right please.

" I know that I would never buy something that I complained about as much as you do the X1."

Good for you. Again, i criticize/dislike MS, not the games or X1 exclusive developers. But whatever, ill be the one laughing when i own both consoles. People like you need to learn to know the difference between hatred for MS and love for MS exclusive games, they CAN co exists to me. What does it tell you about me as a gamer if im willing to give hundreds of £ to a company i don't like in order to play their exclusives?

Also ill add, how am i supposed to give MS positive critique if they keep making such damn bad decisions? They give me the ammo, i don't even have to make an effort.

[nypifisel]

Xbox One will never be able to outperform the PS4. It's just impossible.

[SonyPS360]

Stage 1: Denial.

[nypifisel]

No, it's physics... It's like claiming a Trabant to win a race against a Ferrari, it's just not possible. Not only do we already know exactly how these consoles works being x86, we can calculate with utmost precision how the silicon will preform. I'd recommend anyone with interests in these kind of things to read up on.

We already got empirical evidence of this as well. All third party games already run at a higher resolution and higher framrate on the PS4, and this is cross gen games. And you can claim that Xbox development will mature, but that's disregarding the fact that it's the same for the PS4, why would that platform be stagnant already and the Xbox one wouldn't?

[GamersHeaven]

Lol

[jerethdagryphon]

All its saying is ms could reduce os overhead or allow some tricks to get more out same stuff that devs ahve done before

[Convas]

They have no choice, this is guaranteed. The system will have to move towards giving devs more gaming headroom, "coding to the metal" if you will, to extract max performance.

This is one of the things it seems Corrinne Yu was complaining about, seems that they don't have intimate access to the metal yet.

Probably as a result of MS' still in-development XDK.

[cyhm3112]

he is talking about that 10% GPU power that is reserved for the OS. 10% won't make any significant difference.

[AnteCash]

He talks about 10% thats reserved for os and kinect.

[WeaseL]

This could happen if they remove snap

[XtraTrstrL]

They aren't saying anything special here, it's what happens every console gen, more and more tricks get unlocked later. So, there's nothing specifically special about Xbox One's future boosts, the same exact thing can be said for PS4. Pretty silly and pointless article actually.

[kB0]

I don't expect anything less from a website named "Xbox the Official Magazine"

LOL

When doing and interview about one of your potential business partners, your not going to start bad mouthing them or closing any knowledge of possible improvement. If it was playstation they would've said, "Oh it's already super powerful, but I know Sony has things up their sleeves"

Ppl need to distinguish between PR Bs and news these days!

[Neonridr]

All Microsoft has to do is figure out how to unlock the potential of their secret weapon inside the Xbox One...

Blast Processing!

[AgitatedOcelot]

No they can't use blast processing, because it will blast the cloud away and then they won't have the (mystical sounding voice) "infinite power of the cloud".

[ziggurcat]

there's no secret weapon inside of the xbone... i hope you were being sarcastic.

[Neonridr]

of course I was.. hence the whole Blast Processing part. Remember that was the main reason SEGA said that the Genesis was better than the SNES.

Meanwhile Blast Processing was a completely made up term which described absolutely nothing..

I shouldn't always have to put a /s at the end of my posts.. :P

[Mister_Dawg]

Well as most Sony lovers would have us know, Sony is hardware while MS is software. (Which is utter crap as MS has being making hardware for chuffing years, good or bad)

Anyway, now that both systems are out, there is nothing that can be done hardware side. Only the software OS and tools can be refined or rewrote. So as MS is software king compared to Sony, we should expect to see greater improvements from XB1 than from PS4. XB1 may never reach the same performance level as the PS4, but seeing as both are already starting from a strong level, the future would seem bright for all.

Get some.

[WeAreLegion]

Both companies have been making software and hardware for many years.

[PS3n360]

yea sony root kit was awesome. lol

[SpinalRemains138]

Hahaha.

This is just sad now. Unlock secret power? What the hell is this, a Lord of The Rings movie?

[AgitatedOcelot]

That's where Don Matrick really went, he's out looking for the ring.

Hey it's about as likely to happen as the power of the cloud.

[lpc]

Don matrick ha dala kutti ka sala bc pti k sarbra ki tra ... ps4 best ha

[SonyPS360]

Not enough dribbling fanboys to be a LoTR movie.

[thehitman]

Dont think its smart to give a community already grasping for straws and give them another thread. Only going to lead to disappointment down the road.

[Hicken]

Well, it'd be one thing if they actually read, but you know that's not gonna happen.

[lonewolfjedi]

is it true? the secret sauce? the Dgpu?

[WMANUW]

how much money you have paid to say, nonsense , the secret power ?ahah...

if it had existed microsoft would have advertised to counter competition and instead xone is sinking and microsoft does not do anything? absurd

microsoft and cd projekt are business partners, it is normal to defend

[quiddd]

These articles are absurd. If there was hidden power within the XBox, wouldn't they have released it already?

When Microsoft first revealed the One with DRM, they quickly did a 180 a week later due to public outcry and perception; a pretty quick decision to temper and salvage some fans. Seeing as the public perception as PS4 being more powerful, with the games showing the proof, wouldn't Microsoft be just as fast to release that added power to at least stop perception that PS4 is stronger.

Leads me to believe that there is no added performance upgrades.

[PixelNinja]

If this was Microsoft, I would say that it is pure bullshit.

Coming from CD Projekt however is very reliable; heck, it is a company that is absolutely against DRM (what the console was based on intentionally), so you know that they are not bullshitting if they are saying something good about this console.

[kingPoS]

Of course both consoles of potential. Why would either design their respective platforms without a method to grow?

Remember how games on the PS3/360 looked in 2006, well look them now. I believe the same thing going to happen with the emergent generation. For those ardent fans, I have a question; would you really be so glad if a Dreamcast scenario repeated itself? I know I wouldn't!

Look at it this way are you happy the choices you have for cable tv? It's a good that competition between consoles are promoting.... more options for the consumer.... right.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[imt558]

I think it's about 10% GPU resource for OS and Kinect.

[ironmonkey]

Ps4 doesn't need the witcher. This guy is pubed up against ms.

[BobBelcher]

^^^ lol. "PS4 doesn't need the Witcher."
You heard it here first.

[ZoyosJD]

The Witcher series has been absolutely incredible. There are plenty of PS4 gamers that should have the opportunity to play the series.

Aside from that these quotes only suggest the standard growth that we see from further optimized code throughout the generation.

What he actually said makes sense when put in perspective, but is being absurdly strewn.

[DeadMansHand]

Please speak for yourself. I am quite excited to be able to play a Witcher game. The series is very highly rated and sounds right up my alley. Cannot wait to play it on my ps4.

[EXVirtual]

Well, that's what happens with every console. Launch games don't display the full power of the console. While I don't like the XBO, I will say that good looking games will come out of the system... that being said, it cannot outperform the PS4.

[EazyDuz22]

Is there a second hidden gpu in the console that just needs plugging in or something?

Lol Xbox One owners wish.

[frostypants]

Terribly misleading headline without context. This is just about learning new programming shortcuts and optimizations...not hidden secret hardware or anything.

[Morgue]

Must be clear skies and they're waiting for the clouds to roll in.

/s

[MorePowerOfGreen]

If there is any Xbox fans in here tell me how you feel about this article.

[TristanPR77]

Wow CD Project, now this? Hidden powers?

So the logic here is: let us launch the xbone with limited power so the competition takes the upper hand and then out of the blue let the hidden power show off,just when the competition already have the edge on power, sales and fan base.

Yeap,makes sense at all... Lol

[Goku781]

Ok wait for it.

[solidboss07]

Good, very good to hear from developers that XB1 will have some longevity. Mark Cerny went into some detail about PS4's instantly accessable architecture, that is going to feature development techniques into the life cycle which will 'unlock' performance.
Hopefully XB1 will keep within touching distance. But it is the exclusives that make my decision of console. PS4 being better is just a big, fat bonus.
I like multi plats aswell, I am looking forwards to playing Witcher on PS4.

[DarthSocio]

Wow it's only been just released and they're already trying to over clock it.

[ooquis]

Not this crap again!!

[feraldrgn]

There is no "hidden" performance, the Xbox is underperforming because the ESRam is a hurdle at the moment & part of the performance is sapped by Kinect & Snap in functionality.

Once the ESRam gets automated, or devs come to grips with it, the Xbox will perform "normally".

[BlackCountryBob]

So, in laymans terms - Microsoft will continue to refine and update their drivers and sdks to be more efficient and thus free up more resources to developers as the stuff in the background will be able to operate with less. And Sony will continue to do this with the PS4

It's amazing how the most basic feature of an internet enabled system becomes some huge point of argument.

[Thomaticus]

Who cares. ... we know the system specs, lets just focus on the games and how they look and perform. That is whats important now.

[Hekticboss44]

Geeez give these consoles some time these launch games are only a taste of what's to come !! Ofcoarse more power will be unlocked there still baby's lol

[lifeisgamesok]

In my and many others opinion Ryse is the best looking game graphically

The game is so gorgeous I can't imagine what the 2nd wave of games will look like

[Nekroo91]

As a Sony fan... Ryse is a great looking action game, but the performance isnt that great.

If they can improve performance and scale like infamous of the witcher then ill be impressed.

[lifeisgamesok]

I'd take the visuals of Killzone over Infamous. I was just watching gameplay and aside from the particle effects I wasn't very impressed

Killzone does great things with lighting

Ryse looks awesome

[NewAgeisHere]

Man they are just reaching..........lol........s uperpower ingredient ye right haha...

[mochachino]

Yeah, additional RAM as the 3 background OSs get updated.

Still won't match PS4 though, which can also update the OS to use less resources.

[Nekroo91]

its not additional ram is the 10% gpu power reserved for the kinect

[gpturbo81]

They gonna make you pay for that too..

[ToonarmY]

May not also.

I think its more likely that it may not.

[duarteq]

ohhh nooo, it's over 9000...

[KetchupBlood]

Good luck finding those "Hidden" extra powers, even Microsoft will have hard time finding them.

[DoggyBiscuit]

Maybe the Kinect is holding The X1 back

[Pintheshadows]

Does this not go without saying? Look at the difference between a 360 or PS3 launch game compared to (and i'll go multiplat for this) Tomb Raider.

Consoles always improve over time as developers learn the system and learn new techniques to eek more performance out of it.

I like the way Naughty Dog put it a while back. At first you fill a jar with stones. Then you start filling in the gap in the jar with pebbles. Then you fill the remaining gaps with sand.

[_FantasmA_]

The hidden performance is hidden t3h cloudz!

[DVAcme]

I don't know why they have to "hide" it in the first place. I'd think that that "hidden" performance should be something readily available to any developer who needs it.

This is all smoke and mirrors to dupe the simpletons into buying the system. A system doesn't grow unless it's physically upgraded or it's optimized with a major operating system overhaul. Neither of those things will happen in a console. This is total BS.

[SynestheticRoar]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Wait they crack me up. hahahahahaha. 2funny.

[gigoran]

Ohhh they are talking about next years xbone slim with added storm cloud support to boot its performance by 500%. Games will then no longer run on the first xbone. Smooth move!

[Jovanian]

All I know is PC will be the best version of witcher 3

[jairusmonillas]

Specs don't lie

PS4 GPU: 1152 GCN, 1.84 TFLOPS, 72 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 8GB GDDR5
XB1 GPU :: 768 GCN, 1.31 TFLOPS, 48 TMUs, 16 ROPs, 8GB DDR3+eSRAM

Witcher 3 devs however can be easily bribed to say lies.

[LogicStomper]

"Witcher 3 devs however can be easily bribed to say lies."

And how do you know this?

[linkenski]

I don't like how CDPR seems to be leaning much towards MS's console, which I'm not getting. I hope W3 will be just as great on PS4 since, so far they've done nothing but saying as much positive stuff about X1 while being a bit iffy about the PS4.

[purp13m0nk3y]

Thank you captain obvious!

Of cause they will "unlock" extra performance from xbox 1 hardware. Like they will with the PS4 or Wii U or any hardware as they become more familiar with it!!

This is not news, its just common sense. WTF stupid flame bait articles on this site.

[LordMaim]

Shouldn't this be categorized under Humor? Or are they serious.

[Belking]

this is great for devs. xb1 already has the best looking games early on.

[mixelon]

Holy way to misread an article, guys!

If you even did read it. >.<

Both consoles are going to get much nicer dev tools over time that give much better and easier access to the hardware. There is no way the X1 could possibly end up technically *ahead* from this, but it's definitely going to be a lot better than it is on day one. Like every. damned. hardware. generation.

[BIGBOSS08]

this is stupid. if there was more power in the xbox one, they would be shwoing it now. no point unlocking more power in 3 years when your 20m units behind PS4.

[JediDiah]

DISKinect AND THERE IS YOUR EXTRA 10% they were previously talking about. I can live without the Kinect all up in my business for a 10% boost!

[FanOfRootBeer]

Same goes for PS4, much like how this applied to both PS3 and Xbox 360.

[jacksjus]

I smell doodoo. Sounds like this guy is brown nosing.

[KontryBoy706]

let me get this straight... so for now Microsoft is just letting their console run 95% of it's games on lower resolutions ON PURPOSE? All that "overclocking" they were doing before launch; we are supposed to forget about that right????? I call BS

[Malice-Flare]

heh, all the optimizations in the world won't unlock power equivalent to the 6 extra CUs in the PS4's GPU nor the speed of the GDDR5...

and, the optimizations apply to PS4 as well...

[Grave]

They actually better start unlocking before Naughty Dog's first PS4 game. Just saying.

[mechlord]

Ha!
It's all smoke and mirrors (and clouds, lol)
it's all Jedi mind tricks for the weak minded
There is nothing, no secret juice, no super-over-9000-powah-from-da- cloudz, there is nothing extra on the 1.
Deal with it.

Incidentally, every chip on the xbox is identified, but there is one chip on the PS4 that no one knows what is for, so if there is a console that can claim to have some "secret sauce", its not the X1

[Hakoom]

when i see a game on X1 that will beat UC4 then i will agree

[metus]

You guys do realize the xbox one just came out so who's to say it won't get better? I mean time will tell.. An open mind is so much respectable than a closed..

[Azzanation]

Good to hear, lets hope its true. More bang for my buck never hurts.

[CuddlyREDRUM]

I respect CD Projekt, but they need to get their nose out of corporation's ass.

[phantomexe]

yea i'm not buying this spin.....There is nothing to unlock that hackers haven't looked at. People have already broke the consule down.

[BABY-JEDI]

So why hide it?

[mmj]

It's only natural that programming tricks will be found over the course of the Xbones lifetime, it happens with every single console ever made... any improvements are not going to be significant enough to allow it to match PS4 though, the disparity in physical GPU capability is just too great.

[cheapness1]

Guess I'll hold off on buying one, till they unleash the hidden powerz then.

[Bolts-N-Rays1109]

Goodness, people. There is no hidden powers, it's just showing a new way to do something. It's just manipulating the components inside the box to do what you want. It takes time to learn these tricks.

[Garrison]

Blast Processing? lol