New information has surfaced which shows that the PS4 actually houses 1280 SPs instead of 1152 like everyone thought. Thats 128 SPs unaccounted for in the PS4 and an increase of 10% in gaming power just a Sony Update away.
A partially redacted data sheet highlighting the expected ray tracing features coming to RDNA 4 GPUs has been shared by well-known hardware information leaker @Kepler_L2. We expect the features to also be present in the hybrid RDNA 3 + RDNA 4 RT design coming to PS5 Pro when it launches (presumably) later this year or early next year. The leaked data points seem to confirm that advancing ray tracing technology is going to be a major focus of RDNA 4.
This will be the actual start to Ray Tracing on consoles, I'm really looking forward to seeing what PSSR is capable of as well.
I can't wait to see what games designed around this can do.
Don’t hope for anything major imo. RT remains a power consuming feature and I don’t think a pro version will make all that much difference. Higher frames (say 60fps) with RT features as they are now would be a big win if that would be the case. If RT features would be extended, games will probably stick at 30fps like they do now, is that worth a pro upgrade?
Zero first, second or major third party console exclusives have lacked a 60 fps mode on PlayStation, 30 fps is an xbox problem.
The GPU alone statistically offers 40% uplift, and with PSSR upscaling games designed around the console should have a significant performance uplift.
And my understanding is that RT has been largely decoupled from the CU's in RDNA 4 so the performance hit from RT should be much less than on current AMD GPUS. And regardless, the huge number of RT cores with the doubled RT intersect engine should be able to power through RT in a way that simply is not possible on current consoles.
With a rumored (according to the leaks) 4x performance jump in RT performance (and a 40% boost in overall GPU performance), in addition to the added AI upscaling frame generation tech, the actual RT performance increase should be significant.
@Frosty; 40% GPU boost you claim. With PS4 pro vs base at the time, that increase basicly doubled so 40% ain’t that big of a deal imo.
4x performance jump with RT (if true) sounds impressive but will we be able to play games in 60fps quality mode then? If not then pro is a waste as most gamers prefer 60fps performance over 30fps quality mode.
@sagapo
The PS4 Pro had the same GPU as the PS4, the PS5 Pro is switching from RNDA 2 to a mix of RDNA 3 and 4. The 40% increase is just the CU increase and doesn't include any uplift from the technological improvements AMD has done to RDNA which have been significat.
PS5 Pro is going to be a much bigger improvement than the PS4 Pro was, especially when you take into account the RT improvements..
@Einhander; assuming you are right, answer my question: will the pro do 60fps in quality (RT) modes? Because if not, why bother imo.
I really hope so, AMD has been pretty far from Nvidia's performance on Ray Tracing, so to see such a huge uplift, with greater performance and efficiency is a big win.
if astro bot is fully raytraced / 60fps on the pro model, we can start believing the hype
No games are fully raytraced as of now, even on PC. All of them utilize a combination of raytraced and rasterized graphics, with ray tracing being used for shadows, reflections, or global illumination in the best cases, but not for the entire rendering process.
There's gonna be quite a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro compared to ps4 and ps4 pro
agreed, PS4 Pro was only geared at pushing more pixels per frame (and HDR), not making those pixels look better in the process. PS4 Pro didn't offer much as far as increasing the actual quality of the rendering went.
Expecially when ps5 is around 10tflops and ps5 pro rumored to be 30tflops compared to ps4 at 1.84tflops and ps4 pro at 4.2tflops u could pretty much call it a ps6 near enough. Then ps5 pro could be using rdna 3 or say rdna 3.5 because it's rumoured to be using that newly assets of rdna 4 which benefit greatly on resolution and Raytracing even effect etc etc. What would be nice for sony greatly benefit is amd solution of the X3D in its Cpu on cpu bound games
As always:
I can't wait for the specs of the new consoles.
Wether it's NSW2, Xbox Next or PS6.
If Cerny stays the lead architect of the PS6's hardware (which is very likely I guess?), I am VERY excited for Sony's approach.
They've always done something unique noone else did.
And I expect the same for the PS6.
Edit: man, crazy. PS6 (six!) is already near! Time flies.
Ceeny won't be going anywhere I don't think. He and his team have produced back to back amazing consoles
What I want to know is what the price for pro will be since it's much more powerful compared to regular PS5
Sony Music Entertainment Japan, subsidiary Aniplex, and Palworld developer Pocketpair have announced the establishment of Palworld Entertainment, a joint venture that will be responsible for developing the reach of the intellectual property and for expanding commercial business endeavors, including the global licensing and merchandising activities associated with Palworld, outside of the game.
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Crazy that they’ve formed a partnership of sorts, but the game itself still haven’t been released on PlayStation
It's still in Early Access. If it ever goes gold, there will definitely be a PS5 version, might even be a PS4 version too
The PS1 and PS2 both had strong RPG libraries, so it’s not a huge surprise that the PSP saw numerous excellent RPG releases, covering original releases, ports, and spinoffs/sequels to major franchises.
Great list but needs to be 12 you don’t have Star Ocean First Departure and Second Story!
Lets hope it's option 3! 10% increase would be a nice power boost, especially later in the generation.
Secret sauce FTW!
Can someon lay this out in simple man terms?
If this is true, then this is what Yoshida was talking about the other day. I'm sure there are also other optimizations to be done (like any other console), but this is even better if true. It'll help out the PS4 even more later on in the gen.
Its the CU's that are there for fail safe. Not anything secret.
No. Both X1 and PS4 have 2 more CUs that are disabled, to increase production yields. It's the same reason for the PS3's missing eighth SPU.
Yes both consoles are gimped to save their respective companies money, during the rocky first two years of production.