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Next Generation Controllers

So a couple of days ago we at AGR covered the hard drive issues that some of us may experience sooner or later regarding the new set of consoles on the way later this month.

Now its time to talk about the one thing you’ll probably be using just as much as the consoles themselves. The controller.

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KrisButtar3820d ago

I've had hands on with the DS4 and before I seen/used it, I seen it online and everyone was talking about how much larger it is. It is very close to the DS3 size and would have said its a small increase to its size not its larger. It does feel good and seems to be made stronger or less breakable. I am impressed with it, which is something I wasn't so sure about because of the touchpad.

I haven't seen or used the XB1 controller in person yet and only seen it in online videos and such. It looks good but the video with seller and him saying the RT and RB are too close and causes me for concern. I should be checking one out in the next few days though and be able to see for myself if its a problem. I hate the fact about the batteries and don't get me started on those charger kit things as they were garbage on my 360. I think that maybe my biggest problem with the new controller seeing how they fixed the dpad

Autodidactdystopia3820d ago

DS4 for me has always given me problems with my fingers slipping off the analog sticks. The controller is iconic and I like it though

Xbox controllers since the 360 Are great I have no complaints with them, The Xbox 1 controller, I wonder though if the Feedback triggers are the weakest link on them. For some reason I feel they might break after extended use. But I don't know. I like the concept.

The Steam Controller, looks cool too Im still on the fence about the whole touchpad thing... If they get the firmware right on the controllers, then it could be great. For now ill just wait and see.

The wii U Controller I dislike, I just don't like it at all. :(

KrisButtar3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

"DS4 for me has always given me problems with my fingers slipping off the analog sticks. The controller is iconic and I like it though"

You mean the DS3? I'm not a great fan of either controller(PS3/360.) They each have a set of problems. After using the PS4 controller I don't even want to go back to the PS3/360 ones and when I have they both just feel like crap. I hope the new XB1 controller does the same or it won't be considered an improvement.

I don't like rumble/vibration features ever since the N64. I just turn those features off. I think the weakest link might be the bumper and trigger being so close, not the rumble. I'm really excited to get my hands on one.

I agree with you on the Steam controller with the wait and see. On looks its pretty sweet but when they said you can map 24(I think) face buttons. I was like damn that's a lot and maybe to many to get used to.

I don't know anyone around here who likes the WiiU gamepad. What they say is "I bought my big screen to play games on it I don't want to have to look away."

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darthv723820d ago

i like the DS4 is using slightly longer hand grips with textured feel to them. Plus the analog sticks have that semi concave center point where the thumb rests instead of the convex style the DS1-DS3 uses.

On the DS2, the rubber would get sticky but not on the DS3 and the DS4 looks to be very comfortable. Sony had the dual analog (came out before the DS1) and it had the same type of sticks and longer hand grips like the DS4 and that one is very comfortable to hold for long play sessions.

Id like for them to come out with that batarang style even if its just for collectors. that one would have been a trip to hold.

chrissx3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

The DS4 is a true next generation controller from my personal hands on. Best I've ever used

SuicideKing3820d ago

I can't believe someone wrote an article comparing the next gen controllers without even using them. FYI the author has only used the DS4. Lol

abradley3820d ago

Sorry mate, haven't had the chance to use the new Xbox pad yet.

The article was more a comparasion from a features point of view. Just thought I'd add my thoughts on my hands on with the DS4.

abradley3820d ago

Sorry mate, haven't had the chance to use the new Xbox pad yet.

The article was more a comparison from a features point of view. Just thought I'd add my thoughts on my hands on with the DS4.

skydragoonity3820d ago

I'm not too sure i would enjoy littering my house with AA batteries & turn to a battery scavenger like i did with my 360. DS4 for me.

Strange_Days3820d ago

Well, in that case you should've invested in a play n'charge kit, or even rechargable AAs.
You know, just like most people will did on the 360, and what most will do on the XB1?

An enclosed battery isn't necessarily a good thing either.
What if the battery unit fails? Or over time, no longer holds a decent charge? At least you won't fork out for a new 360/xb1 pad, merely a few quid/bucks for some new batteries, if wifi is what matters to you.

abradley3820d ago

The Play n'charge kit was dreadful from my experience. Sometimes barely lasted a couple weeks before needing to be replaced.

I understand your point on the enclosed battery but I've got a couple DS3 controllers and not one of them has ever given me any issues with the batteries.

SaffronCurse3820d ago (Edited 3820d ago )

Haven't had the chance to try out the Xbone controller. But the Ds4 feels so right, everything about it is just done right and I'm happy to say, it's probably my all time favourite controller. Been using it non stop since I bought it last week.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere29m ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

PassNextquestion4m ago(Edited 2m ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

Profchaos3m ago(Edited 3m ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

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This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

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Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

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purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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