Flop or Not? - Playstation 3 Exclusives

Slicegaming.com writes:

"With 2008 already a quarter of the way finished, we still haven't seen any big name titles, which were also quality titles. Although there is little information about some of them, and a couple might not even release this year, the following is a list of this writer's opinion and analysis of the big games that could be huge. They will be rated as Flop, Possibly a flop, and Not a flop."

[THC CELL]

X box fan
Not really news

How can people judge games that they dont play

Here
GEARS OF WAR 2 is going to be a Flop

See we can all do it

[sammy_mantra]

TOUGHBUT is an XBOT in our forum

He approved his own article????

http://www.n4g.com/up/8341....

Please report the story as SPAM and LAME

this cant be tolerated

How can TOUGHNAME approve his OWN WRITTEN article?

[lawman1108]

The best line in the whole thing "Killzone defined the term Flop" this is until Lair came around!

ps. LBP? HUGE FLOP Childs game on an Adult system = FLOP right R&C TOD?

[sammy_mantra]

GAYLO3 defines flop

Two worlds/Hour of Victory got 2/10 from most websites

all trash box 3 FIX me games are flops

KZ2 will murder all x360 games when launched so dont worry about that XTARD

[thekingofMA]

sammy mantra, youre very pissy when theres ever the slightest bit of anti-ps3 news

i dont know how toughname approved his own article (or even if he did, i didnt bother to check your link), but i want to point out how im sure you had no problem with yesterday's story "Xbox 360 Exclusives: Flop or Not?"---im also sure you didnt immediately urge people to report the story and the contributor

its ridiculous to say that this story was written by a xbox fanboy from this site (as you say in a later comment), especially seeing as how there was an identical 360 story yesterday

and to call toughNAME a "horrible fantard" is even more ridiculous-toughname has been pretty quiet lately, and to attack him just because of the post is stupid. furthermore, you are one of the worst fanboys ive yet to come across, far worse than even the fake Kaz Hirais or Ken Kutaragis, or even Dark Sniper (wtf happened to him???) you spew fanboyish comments in what appears to be every single thread-instead of doing so, why dont you go fornicate with the ps3 you apparently love so god damn muc.

and to call halo 3 a flop...dont even kid yourself. aside from the ps3 having no game to compare with halo in sales, halo is one of the best online games for any system right now. (you can say cod4 is better, and while i love cod4, halo does take more skill, and its matchmaking system is better, even though a bit slower)

[Fishy Fingers]

More opinion dressed up as news.

[toughNAME]

lol everyone has a problem with this because THIS ONE I signed

[Fishy Fingers]

I have no idea what your talking about bro? The article is complete opinion, guess work at best.

[cellypower]

Is a xbox fan,that loves the ps3.Why do you have to write a article about games on the ps3 thats going to flop?If GOW2 was a Ps3 exclusive you would say that would flop.

[sammy_mantra]

my GOD this guy---TOUGHBOTTTT even approved his own article

can people please report him and the STORY

http://www.n4g.com/up/8341....

I cant believe TOUGHNAME approved his own ARTICLE at N4G

[solidjun5]

i don't think he loves the PS3 at all. i don't even think he even likes it; which is okay i guess. He just tries to subtle about it. He made his choice and i'm like "whatever", we'll see what happens when R2 comes out with its unique multiplayer option, he probably won't play.

[Daver]

Some people are lame... there was an article similar to this one but for xbox yesterday i think... and someone feel the need to do exactly the same thing to reply to it...
We dont care of what you think about if a game will be good or not.. and anyway how can you even give an opinion on a game that we only saw a short teaser and have no ****ing idea of what it will look like or play
LAME!

[sammy_mantra]

It is written by TOUGHNAME ---a horrible XBOX fanboy at N4g

http://www.n4g.com/up/8341....

cant believe that he had the audacity to approve his own article

[sonarus]

lol i won't even bother defending

[crunchie101]

You guys are pathetic - in attacking this article you haven't mentioned any of the content within. Bubbles down for all of you (well not all of you)

@fishyfingers..no i didn't bubble down you
@fishyfingers again..right, yes, I was just angry at most of the people who replied to you..I know you're alright though

[FAT MAN GO BOOM]

I love this... Someone plays some games and they think they can tell the future of how well a game will be... The guy that wrote the artical does not even own a PS3... LOL

Oh man it kills me what can pass as news....

And the magic 8 Ball says.... Future is bleak.....

[Fishy Fingers]

Ummm... I dont believe what I said was unjustified. I havent attacked anyone. Just sharing my opinion.

Please don't judge me on the replies below my intial comment. I dint ask for them.

EDIT: Crunchie, the bubble doesnt bother me bro, just dont like to be thought of as pathetic :) cheers though dude!

[sonarus]

Bottom line is toughName doesn't own a ps3 so we really shouldn't take his opinions that seriously. So toughName get yourself a ps3 so you can bag on it and we can take you seriously:D. That being said

Resistance 2 will not flop be it sales,review or quality. Gears may outsell it but the sales will be a lot closer this time because of the increased install base. As long as the game is good, people will buy. Killzone 2 quality may suck but it will easily pull of 2 million plus if released at the right time.

[anh_duong]

no offence but a review of ps3 games written by uber-xbox fanboy toughname..

it is like reading a guidebook on jewish synagogues written by adolf hitler.

i give him a little credit for at least trying not to be 100% biased but nevertheless as pointless as jockstraps for eunuchs.

btw i didn't report or disagree with you but just want to say that you don't have a great track record of being impartial.

[Real Gambler]

With opinions like: "Resistance: Fall of Man was a good game", we now know he is on the right track!

WTG toughname!

Is your PSN toughname as well?

[rhood022]

The only thing I noticed is that there seems to be some contradictions.

The claim of "flop" or "not a flop" is based on quality not sales, right?

With that said, what does R2 going up against GeOW2 have to do with anything? For fans of the series, it will be a success. In terms of sales, I don't see it selling as much as Gears, but in terms of quality or options, R2 is a big leap from the first.

In other words, basing its success on its parallel release with Gears has no bearing on if its a flop or possibly not.

[Greysturm]

Sales can be in doubt but no one can deny the quality produced by insomiac so just as ninja gaiden wasnt considered a flop this one wont either. Killzone 2 should be possible for it to flop but with little footage and a media embargo i cant say yet so as usual a biased article the 360 one for me was less biased since it only put fable as possibly a flop and in terms of quality it could be as molyneux tends to overreach and underdeliver.

[crunchie101]

sammy mantra will you please take your leave, you irritating cretin

on topic: I agree, "flop or not" is a somewhat misleading title. Perhaps a more interesting view would be to talk about critical success as well as commercial? for next time, maybe

[crunchie101]

Firstly, the fact that Toughname, in this article, says that at least three playstation 3 exclusives will be great, proves he isn't a fanboy. Secondly, as far as I remember, promoting your own blogs on N4G is acceptable as long as they are of acceptable quality...I'll just find that rule now..

ah here it is: "Submitting your stories to N4G can be a great way to promote your site and to gain new readers"

http://www.n4g.com/Info/Pos...

edit: almost a shame sammymantra has run out of bubbles.. i'm sure his response would have been amusing

[she00win99]

resistance 2 possible to flop? i don't think so, the first one didn't and i think the second will be a lot better, you're right about killzone 2 though, i looks great but i got a feeling that the gameplay is going to be bad...

[Utalkin2me]

The second one better be a whole lot better than the first. Cause the first was just average far as gameplay and graphic wise. The only reason it got 8's was cause there was nothing else on the ps3 at the time.

[Kleptic]

Killzone 1 was far from the definition of flop though...and it really is aggrevating that everyone keeps making KZ2 a definite crapper just because of the past games...

Killzone 1 sold over 2 million...not amazing...but definitely not a flop...SCE profited from the game, which makes it not a flop...while it wasn't a great game either, it was far from the worst shooter ever made...

and currently...Killzone 2 looks better than any console shooter to date...and we have barely been shown anything...leave it alone...

[TheMART at PS3kings]

ps3 has some of the best exclusives coming this year

MGS4
LBP
KZ2
Haze
and yet to be confirmed exclusives

[Utalkin2me]

MGS4 is and LBP should be. But you say the others will be? You thought Killzone1 was all that? And why do you think Haze? You people sit here and say all this BS, but you never back it up. I will be waiting.

[lawman1108]

8.45 million at $60. US? lets see without tax thats.....about a half a BILLION dollars......some flop Douche bag

[Empyrean_Eclipse]

of course R2 will not flop.

REPEAT.

of course R2 will not flop.

[sammy_mantra]

It is written by TOUGHBUTTT a horrible XBOX fanboy in our forum

http://www.n4g.com/up/8341....

Please report STORY and the USER

TOUGHNAME approved his own article at N4G

what a shame?

[ohnoTheRancor]

toughNAME's personal blog...

Verdict: FLOP

[thehitman]

thrown out the window

[Kaz Hirai]

My Sony Soldiers do not know the meaning of "flop"! This word, "flop", is unfamiliar to us!
But you Xbot PIGS are very familiar with FLOP! And DISAPPOINTMENT! And FAILURE! And MISERY! And HUMILIATION! And.......JUDGMENT DAY!

49 days until Judgment Day, Nazisoft!

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[PopEmUp]

the counting down clock to remind the bots when they wake up

[PR0NE]

heyheyhey now that's refreshing, the judgment day countdown...
but sorry Krazy Kaz, i got a top secret report confirming a new triple a(aka AAA) xbox 360 exclusive...
FLOP exclusively on the 360...

[Pornlord]

We get opinion garbage on this "News" site all the time. It's just part of it. Approving your own comment is a bit suspect.... but look about 3 or 4 posts back. How is this opinion garbage any different that eurogamer XBOX VS PS3 Fire garbage???

EDIT: Too many garbages.... heh

[thehitman]

Toughname I seen more info on Killzone 2 then any exclusives to come out for 360 this year. No gears info no alan awake info no fable info barely any too human info.

[kazuma]

well actually i think the article is pretty much spot-on i mean mgs4, motorstorm 2, littlebigplanet won't be flops, haze could be one...especially since it's been delayed like since the beggining of mankind, i also think killzone2 won't get very far because they keep delaying the game and also guerrila games isn't exactly the best of developers. the one i totally disagree is resistance 2(because they've been churning out awesome stuff since ratchet and clank - don't like disruptor or the spyros - and i'm pretty sure the game will do well since the first resistance also sold quite nicely for launch and with more ppl with ps3's and more marketing i think it's a crime not to play something made by insomniac). even if it comes out next to gears of war 2, there's much time until then and by then who says that xbox users won't be playing gears of war and ps3 users won't be playing resistance 2? gow2 will probably sell better (bigger install base) but still resistance 2 can be a major game for ps3 owners and i think that will show in game sales

[Mr_Luke]

sadness

[Monchichi025]

I think MGS, Resistance and MotorStorm 2 will do GREAT. Still up in the air about Killzone and Haze.

But Little Big Planet....think it's gonna be a Major flop! Don't get me wrong, I love that they are trying to be so creative and applaud them for it. But like he said, it's on the wrong console. If it was on Wii it would sell Millions upon millions. But the PS3 caters to a more hardcore market who can spend $500 on a console. How many kids do you think owna PS3? Not many. And it all comes down to economics on this one, no matter how great Little Big Planet will be.

What do you guys think, fanboyish logic aside?

[thehitman]

I feel same way about LBP. I think Sony got a hit or miss situation here. They have a good idea but idk if the market will accept it. I just hope its a 10 dollar arcade game that didnt cost them much resources to make because if doesnt do so well it will get huge criticism. I also think Killzone will definetly do well impossible for it to not regardless of how "long" it taking it to come out. And long in quotes because if Sony didnt show us anything we wouldnt even know it was suppose to be coming out and we be left hanging like MS gamers on WTH is next.

[Pornlord]

I'll buy little big planet, because I get BORED of most games within days of owning them (There are of course exeptions like Ratchet and Clank and any mega ten game) But that's what excites me about the title, it's versatility and replayability, and I'd like to think I'm not alone... Although I'm sure I'll get lot's of disagrees, which would counteract my whole point :) I like you guys anyway

[ohnoTheRancor]

MGS4, RFoM2, MS2 - will all do well.

also, i definitely think Haze will be a solid game, not a "system-selling exclusive" - but online co-op is huge. plus Free Radical has yet to disappoint. bottom line, that game will be alot of fun and worth the wait.

Killzone i'm not personally all that excited about. i'd take RFoM2 over that. but i'm sure there will be a demo to check out.

LBP is the biggest question mark. while it looks "kiddie", i really enjoy built-it-yourself games... going all the way back to building tracks on Excitebike and Mach Rider!!

[TheEndzor]

This is not news

This is a fanboy article written by a member of this site. The icing on the cake is that you approved your own article

There are ways to get your opinion across but this is not one of them.

[sammy_mantra]

TOUGNAME -- horrible XBOX FANTARD at N4G

http://www.n4g.com/up/8341....

approved his OWN WRITTEN article?????????

[FAT MAN GO BOOM]

Just block this guy he is nothing but a fanboy... he can't and can never look past is own system... He does not even own a PS3.... What a Tool...

and the Magic 8 Ball says!!!!!

[brothersimon]

flop

[Whoooop]

What a respectable article??? lol

:)

[meepmoopmeep]

the first 2 words "toughNAME writes:"

the author and submitter for something PS3 i knew it would be flame bait right off the bat. toughNAME isn't one to be pro-sony at all. lol. i give him credit for rousing up the crowd today though.

[crunchie101]

When you submit your own article you have to refer to yourself in the third person

"When creating a news post linking to your site always refer to yourself or your site in third person. Do not write “we” or “I”, instead use your website’s name when referring to your article"

http://www.n4g.com/Info/Pos...

edit: oops, didn't realise you were a contributer and that your post was being humourous

[fenderputty]

It's opinion. Stop being so touchy people. At least this was an effort in neutrality.

toughNAME ... I don't think you're giving resistance enough credit. Although I know you weren't too fond of the first one, but I don't see why you're bringing Gears into this. KZ2 is going to blow everyone away too. Mark my words. I just have this feeling. Everything else was spot on. I think Haze might be more of a flop then you though.

[Pornlord]

It's funny though right??? I'm a new member and that's why I joined this site, I get educated, and occasionally get to see someone get ripped that truly deserves it. FANTASTIC!!!! hahahaha

[SL1M DADDY]

And it would happen to be Killzone 2. Sorry, but I DID play through the first one and it was the media that claimed it to be Sony's Halo killer, not Guerrilla or Sony and IMHO, the game was fun, a solid 7.5 out of 10 in my book. I expect with the current production values of KZ2, it will be a solid 8 to 9. The article is solid opinion with few facts. That is an equation that results in what I like to call fluff. Internet fluff that bogs the bandwidth and should be limited. Perhaps this author, toughguy or whatever his name is should write for Gaysradar?

[Whoooop]

metal gear SOLID.

:)

[neonchez]

i highly doubt R2 is going to be a flop, in both sales and quality.

as for KZ2, well, i liked the first one. the plot was decent, the graphics(for a ps2 game)were great, the one problem i had w/ it were the weapons. the sniper rifle was useless, and most of the other weapons were basically the same. the main Helghast weapon was awesome though, a automatic rifle w/ a shotgun attachment. KZ2 however looks to be a great game.

Haze is going to be a flop.

[Pornlord]

Awwwww come on, Haze looks interesting, right??? I would have to agree to one point that it's at least trying something a little different than most FPS out there, and I'm sick of the standard FPS (And I own most of them for both consoles). At least the Nectar idea intrigues me a bit, going on a rampage seeing your friends as enemys(albeit it was done in Kane and Lynch involuntarily). It may be a flop, but I'm buying it, at least at this point.

[Surfman]

toughNAME wrote this.. you are a genius you can predict which exclusive is gonna be a flop... c'mon, dumb article.

[Chug]

This is ridiculous. IMO, neither one of these titles will flop, come on toughNAME, both of these games will sell extremely well. Although, it is clear that R2 is a bigger jump from R1 than GeOW2 is from GeOW1. Personally, I'm getting both.

[StateofMind]

I don't really agree. There's no way Resistance 2 is going to flop, look at Insomniac's track record. Killzone 2 and Haze should have been switched. Could have done the same with Motorstorm 2 and Resistance 2 as well.

[SpecialSauce]

k i must admit the first one suked but this one looks alot better.
with the ability to fire rockets threw walls and have them not explode that sounds good
and also the cover system were you cant see around walls with out pokin your head out that
sounds sweet and its also new

[jkhan]

Ahh how cute, they mention 6 PS3 exclusives while completely ignoring White Knight Chronicles, Heavy Rain, Socom Confrontation and The Agency. Cool.
Lets break it down:
1). Resistance 2: Even if Gears of War 2 is a better game then R2, will it fail, no why, because its on a different system, you dough bag. I have no doubt in Insomniac's ability to produce a quality title. R1 was amazing considering it was a launch title. Compare R1 to Perfect Dark Zero which was a launch title on 360 and you will see what I mean.
2). Marking a sequel as a flop, just by showing that its predecessor was one, Amazing logic. Seriously, I am not sure it will be a block buster hit, but its visual and animation alone will drop people's jaw & when you can give 9.5+ to a mediocre shooter like Halo3, well then why not Killzone 2.
3). Haze I am not so sure myself, it will probably just get lost in the storm of GTA4 and MGS4.
Yesterday they bashed XBOX360 and I said the same stuff, the games will be good, just don't expect them to be END of ALL games. Play games to enjoy, Microsoft/Sony doesn't pay you to start a flame war or may be they do?

[THE_JUDGE]

This should never have been approved. I highly doubt that he's played the first Resistance or even has a freaking PS3 for that matter.

[poopface1]

I saw a similiar article for xbox yesterday and that wasnt flame bait but this is? who cares, I agree with most except resistance will probaly be a great game. Kilzone 2 on the other hand probaly will let alot of people down with the amount of people who are thinking this game is the second coming or something. I dont have a ps3 either but that doesnt mean I didnt play kz1 on my ps2 and it was crap.

[SickNick85]

it's only a lame news...why this news is in top page???

it's fanboystic and based on nothing...

[jkhan]

That is what I said, these gaming site doesn't have any valuable news and they will either recycle the news or put on a ridiculous topic, so that people can bash each other on the net and they can get hits on there sites. Who approves these things anyways?

[Ali_The_Brit]

resistance deffo wont flop, the first was a cult favorite and killzone 2 flop? dont make me laugh. im not personaly bothered about it but the hype alone is going to make it sell huge

[Vandan]

lol this man is crazy

HAze a flop????

Kill zone 2 A flop ????

Resistance 2 a flop????

LOL

nothign more than an Xbots Wet Dreams:P

seriously

look man if u have 1 particular system it doesnt mean u have dis other good games

I ve played Gears of war 1 it was good n agree to it i don go on dis gears of war 2 just because its a microsoft game :P

Wats good is good

[desolationstorm]

I dont think RFoM2 will be a flop, but I jsut dont see it as being hailed as great as the first was simply because there are a lot of great games out. It was a launch and IMO the only good launch(not Launch window) game. I wouldnt say I was disapointed when I got to play it, but I guess with all the talk I was expecting more. I swithced systems with a friend in Jan because I wanted to play RFoM and maybe I was just burnt out on all the fps but I enjoyed it but didnt think it deserved all the paise it got.

[Pornlord]

THANK YOU!!! that's what I said in one of my earlier comments about a different piece of opinion on a news based site, at least someone is seeing this other than myself, bubble for just paying attention everyday!!!!

[HelghastGeneral]

Of course no matter how good kill zone 2 is it just can't be as hyped and great as the almighty halo 3. In my opinion halo never changed from the first one on or should i say halo 2 to halo 3 wasn't much of a change. Just like the other article where nintendo's systems were rated the top best even the wii was better than ps2 explains our gaming today.

Without the ps2 we wouldn't have anything the wii brings absolutely no interest to me at all. Gaming at our present state today I never been so disappointed I mean for example other consoles like ps2 I thought was great but i knew xbox had better graphics. I also knew that even though sega saturn had some few rare beautiful games the playstation out did it in every way.

But this generation i find myself a fanboy of ps3 why? because of greed and microsoft wanted to get ahead they made a system with a good gpu but a poor cpu. Developers want money they look at numbers they see that microsoft has more units out there and they bring out there games. The only problem is that 360 games look beautiful but all move like last generation. A true gamer though who is looking for the complete experience will understand ps3 is the only system that can bring realistic animation besides looking realistic.

Its a shame though when you play games that move realistically like uncharted drakes fortune and gran turismo 5 that all games could of been this great. If microsoft would have invested 4 years with a partnership like sony with the cell and made a better processor and include hd dvd they would of won the war. But they didn't invest in a processor like the cell to bring realistic animation because they didn't have to. They knew they could make enough money anyway and blind everyone with highly textured character models that move like last generation.

They also did not want any hd disc format to win thats why they didn't include a built in hd dvd player. if they did grand theft auto 4 probably could been a better game also grand theft auto 5 would be possible but rockstar says it isn't they also complained in the beginning how much 360 limits them.

Its okay though true gamers have sony to bring us everything we wanted true realistic games if ps3 didn't bridge this gap 360 would be better and there be no fanboy fights.

[xboxftw]

The only thing wrong with the article is not mentioning the biggest flop of this gen. The ps3urd.

[nix]

it's been taken off!

[DarthTigra]

I am really starting to see what the xbox people meant by this site is overrunnig with sony fanboy's here take a look at the report history for the xbox version of this article toughNAME wrote.

http://www.n4g.com/PopUpPag...

Here is this one report history. http://n4g.com/PopUpPages/O...

I wanna know whats the diffrence.

[toughNAME]

It's a sad sight indeed

[HighDefinition]

1 year ago, This site was NOTHING but negative PS3 news. Your guys little "360 loving hearts" have been crushed and now your sour. You make it very clear.

Chin up!

"disagrees reflect ignorance"

[HighDefinition]

How long have you been coming here?

Must not be that long or you would realize how absolutly foolish that sounds. Some storys get approved, some don`t. Some story`s get HOT, some don`t. Some get failed, some don`t.

Welcome to the "black hole" that is N4G.

[lodossrage]

You should have been here in 2007 and 2006.

It was NOTHING but xbox news and "sony does this and that wrong" all day every day 24/7 on this site.

So if you guys want to call this site "sony land" now. Then it should have been called "microsoft ville" last year and the year before.

The only ones complaining about n4g being "sonyland" are the microsoft fans that are heartbroken because this site isn't "microsoftville" anymore

[DarthTigra]

O believe me i know how things have changed round here ive been here for a little under a year and am a sony fan all i was saying is that if this article is being shot at and reported by all these people why was the xbox version not?

[lodossrage]

The thing is, Toughname is well known biased against the ps3. So him posting an xbox article isn't a big deal (especially for those that look at it).

However, him posting a ps3 version doesn't go over so well because of his biased view.

Take a look at his article of both. In his eyes, ps3 has mostly flops/probable flops whereas the 360 has like almost no flops. But as I said, he's biased against ps3 so it's not surprising.

If he was neutral, then it wouldn't be much of an issue. But he's not.

[DarthTigra]

I know about toughNAME im not really talking about the article so much but how everyone is reporting this as not news worthy because its a members opinon but not doing the same for the other article,thats what i meant.

[toughNAME]

Each article has 1 flop.

The PS3 has 2 "possiblys" while the 360 has 1.

Forget the fact that I outright praised 3 PS3 games, I'm biased and very anti PS3 right?

I love having opinions of my articles...just make sure you know the facts before you post :)

[Vino]

The ps3 will be successful this year, and Resistance 2 will not flop, I don't own a next-gen console yet, but I plan to buy a ps3 and a 360 because I lost the will to care what people say over the internet and I'm looking forward to what's coming out this year.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

With the original Killzone I just think their ambishions was just too high for the hardware. This time around the PlayStation 3 is made to stream. So even though it wasn't a "Halo Killer" it was still a very good game. I just think this time around it will be because as of speaking now Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is the "Halo Killer."

[xionpunk]

I don't know how he can call KZ2 a flop, no ones really seen much of it.
He gives that as his basis, but uh...that sucks.

[MainEventX]

First off lets get one thing clear 360 dosent have exclusives microsoft has exclusives on the 360. Every game that comes out on the 360 comes out on pc also. gears of war is on both platforms bioshock is on both mass effect is coming to pc and pretty soon halo 3 will be on pc. Playstation owners can play all your so called 360 exclusives on computer but u cant play playstation exclusives unless u buy a playstation that means no mgs4, kz2, rfom2,ff13, or gow3 on pc. So ill go enjoy mass effect and and gears of war 2 on my pc without buying and xbox hahahahahahaha all 360 games come to pc hahahahahaha

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

The first one had amazing potential but you could tell since it was a launch title it was rushed. All this game needed to be truly great was a little refinement.

KIllzone 2 - You can't judge this game by the last one. Sony knows this is a weak spot in the catalogue and I don't think they would be developing another one unless it had something going for it. Not to mention they have all new hardware to work with, an all new engine, and the trailer for KZ2 looks completely balls out compared to KZ1.

Games I noticed that were absent from this list: SOCOM, TEKKEN 6, INFAMOUS, WHITE KNIGHT STORY, SIREN

[Skater]

MGO is not separate, Payton said in a podcast that it will launch from the menu in MGS4.

[wangdiddy82]

How do people like this actually own a gaming website??? F'ing retards to even say resistance 2 to might be a flop.. Resistance 1 is one of the best fps games i have ever played in regards to the single player campiagne and story.. I dont know any fps game other than halo 1 that has a better story than resistance and how the story unfolds in the game.. And he says it will get over shadowed by gears 2. I would be more worried about gears 2 being a flop than resistance.. Epic really dont know how to make a compelling game.. they proved that with the 1st gears and UT3. Good games but nothing special about them..

the only game that might be a possible flop is killzone 2 because there is sooooooo much riding on it. I honestly think it will blow us all away but it might not live up to some peoples expections..

Bottom line.. why listen and read this guys article? who they hell is he.. lol.. He's probably some noob who gets owned in cod4 all the time..

[callahan09]

Resistance 2 has got me way more excited than Gears 2.

Also, it won't be a flop. Not even "possibly." The first Resistance wasn't even a flop, and that was a launch title for a brand new console, at the same exact time that Gears 1 came out. So why would a vastly improved sequel, being released to a much larger console owner base, be anything but a success?

Also, what the heck does he mean by questioning that Metal Gear Online is separate? It isn't separate! They already explained this: MGO comes with MGS4. There will not be a Metal Gear Online standalone game, but more maps and so forth will be added as downloadable content in the future, to expand the MGO Starter Pack that is part of MGS4. All online games come with content, then get augmented with more downloadable content.

[lodossrage]

If this article comes from someone who is biased toward xbox then this article shouldn't have even been approved to begin with.

And if the person doesn't have the system, then what can he/she be commenting on?

And on a side note, that's kinda low to approve your OWN site toughname.

[Exile__]

Was a 2007 title, not 06

Resistance 2 possibly a flop? Insomniac hasn't really developed a bad game.. not to mention the first was great, and this is just building upon what they did so great the first time with more content

Killzone 2.. the past does not always repeat itself.. (ex: Factor 5 did good with their Star Wars games.. then Lair came.. the past doesn't guarantee success/failure in the future) Guerrilla Games has a much bigger budget, more talent from Sony themselves, and a much longer development time.. just cuz we haven't seen much doesn't mean anything, they probably have something big to show...

[OJ_juice]

will not flop. Insomniac always brings a really good game every year, and it never dissappoints. NEVER. This game will not flop. I gurantee it.

[Ri0tSquad]

is Killzone 2 because I haven't seen much of the game and the first one wasn't that good. I would of put possibly for Killzone 2 though.

The rest I would of put not.

[Dark General]

I almost agree with this article. Though i think Haze should be changed to flop and Killzone 2 given a possiblity. Other than that i pretty much agree with you.