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AMD Mantle News - Cloud Imperium, Eidos Montreal & Oxide Will Support It

DSOGaming writes: "AMD announced today that Cloud Imperium Games, Eidos Montreal and Oxide Games are the latest game developers will be using its latest API, Mantle, in order to optimize the way PC games are developed."

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Krosis3825d ago

Anything that advocates AMD is a plus for me. Nvidia makes good hardware but to me they are just overpriced and arrogant (IMHO). Much like Intel vs AMD, I vouch for the company that offers the best performance to price ratio--and AMD has owned that market in that sense for me. Team red (and saving money) FTW.

john23825d ago

So now we have four studios supporting Mantle (CI, EIDOS, Oxide and DICE). Slightly Mad Studios may also support it. Curious to see whether other devs will support it

mewhy323825d ago

Well that's exciting. I have an HD 7850 1Gig GDDR5. I'm pumped about this news.

hellvaguy3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

I see wut mean about more performace with stock amds. But idk I could just OC an nvidia if I wanted my gpu to be more noisey and get hot enough to grill burgers on it like how amd does it.

FlyingFoxy3825d ago

Glad to see PC games are finally going to have console level optimization thanks to AMD

fossilfern3825d ago

Double edged sword though anyone who has Nvidia GPUs or an AMD GPU prior to the GCN architecture being introduced wont benefit from this at all. I will get the benefits since im using an R9 270X but thats me.

starchild3825d ago

Yeah, I have an HD 7950 so this will be nice for me too, but I hope the industry settles on a more universal low level API for PC.

Truthandreason3824d ago (Edited 3824d ago )

@starchild

You can't have a low level API without shutting other people out because it involves programming to the strengths of your specific GPU architecture. The opposite of this is direct X, which exists because it unifies all GPUs and emulates their shaders to work the same which saves developers time at the cost of power, because other wise they would have to make two versions of the game.

The good thing about Mantle is you dont have to build a game from the ground up using it (which would exclude compatibility with Nvidia). Essentially (oversimplifying this) they just find things that DX commonly does or does poorly and tell your game to bypass DX and send that processing straight through Mantle which can do it much faster. So they can pick and choose what to improve that will help the game the most.

hellvaguy3823d ago

@flyingfox

Or more likely it could have the opposite effect and add to even more segmenting of the market.

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Make your next GPU upgrade AMD as these latest-gen Radeon cards receive a special promotion

AMD has long been the best value option if you're looking for a new GPU. Now even their latest Radeon RX 7000 series is getting cheaper.

Father__Merrin3d ago

Best for the money is the Arc cards

just_looken3d ago

In the past yes but last gen amd has gotten cheaper and there new cards are on the horizon making 6k even cheaper.

The arc cards are no longer made by intel but asus/asrock has some the next line battlemage is coming out prices tbd.

Do to the longer software development its always best to go amd over intel if its not to much more money even though intel is a strong gpu i own 2/4 card versions.

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AMD FSR 3.1 Announced at GDC 2024, FSR 3 Available and Upcoming in 40 Games

Last September, we unleashed AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3)1 on the gaming world, delivering massive FPS improvements in supported games.

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Eonjay34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

So to put 2 and 2 together... FSR 3.1 is releasing later this year and the launch game to support it is Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart. In Sony's DevNet documentation it shows Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart as the example for PSSR. PS5 Pro also launches later this year... but there is something else coming too: AMD RDNA 4 Cards (The very same technology thats in the Pro). So, PSSR is either FSR 3.1 or its a direct collaboration with AMD for that builds on FSR 3.1. Somehow they are related. I think PSSR is FSR 3.1 with the bonus of AI... now lets see if RDNA 4 cards also include an AI block.

More details:
FSR 3.1 fixes Frame Generation
If you have a 30 series RTX card you can now use DLSS3 with FSR Frame Generation (No 40 Series required!)
Its Available on all Cards (we assume it will come to console)
Fixes Temporal stability

MrDead33d ago

I've been using a mod that allows dlss frame gen on my 3080 it works on all rtx series. It'll be good not to rely on mods for the future.

darksky32d ago

The mods avaiable are actually using FSR3 frame gen but with DLSS or FSR2 upscaling.

Babadook732d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I think that the leaks about the 5 Pro would debunk the notion that the two (FSR 3.1 and PSSR) are the same technology. PSSR is a Sony technology.

MrDead33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I wonder how much they fixed the ghosting in dark areas as Nvidia are leaving them in the dust with image quality. Still good that they are improving in big leaps, I'll have to see when the RTX5000 series is released who I go with... at the moment the RTX5000's are sounding like monsters.

just_looken33d ago

Did you see the dell leaks were they are trying to cool cards using over 1k watts of power.

We are going to need 220 lines for next gen pcs lol

MrDead33d ago

That's crazy! Sounds like heating my house won't be a problem next winter.

porkChop32d ago

As much as I hate supporting Nvidia, AMD just doesn't even try to compete. Their whole business model is to beat Nvidia purely on price. But I'd rather pay for better performance and better features. AMD also doesn't even try to innovate. They just follow Nvidia's lead and make their own version of whatever Nvidia is doing. But they're always 1 or 2 generations behind when it comes to those software/driver innovations, so Nvidia is always miles ahead in quality and performance.

MrDead32d ago

I do a lot of work on photoshop so an Intel Nvidia set up has been the got to because of performance edge, more expensive but far more stable too. Intel also have the edge over AMD processors with better load distribution on the cores, less spikes and jitters. When you're working large format you don't want lag or spikes when you're editing or drawing.

I do think AMD has improved massively though and whist I don't think they threaten Nvidia on the tech side they do make very well priced cards and processors for the power. I'm probably going with a 5080 or 5090 but AMD will get a little side look from me, which is a first in a long time... but like you said they are a generation or two behind at the moment.

Goosejuice32d ago

While I can't argue for amd gpu, they aren't bad but they aren't great either. The cpu for amd have great. I would argue the 7800x3d as one of the best cpu for gaming right now. Idk about editing so I take ur word for that but gaming amd cpu is a great option these days.

porkChop31d ago

@Goosejuice

I have a 7800X3D. It certainly is great for gaming. Though for video editing, rendering, etc, I think Intel have the advantage from what I remember. I just mean from a GPU standpoint I can't support them.

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Star Citizen Developer Cloud Imperium Games Confirms Layoffs

Star Citizen developer Cloud Imperium Games is the latest games company to cut staff, confirming “a small number of positions were eliminated” as part of a relocation plan some former employees have criticized.

Knightofelemia55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

But yet this black hole continues to suck up money like there is no tomorrow. If you're sucking up that much money from fools who get peanuts back. There is something really rotten in that black hole going on.

PrinceOfAnger55d ago

If only they focus on the Single Player first and releasing it, not interested in the mmo that much.

Dudeson55d ago

Same here, always thought we would first do squadron 42 and after that set out into the vast mmo with some experience.

MrBaskerville54d ago

It does seem like that's the case. I think the latest trailer of Squadron 42 looked pretty damn impressive, so hope it releases in 2025 and not later. There's a small chance that that might actually happen.

bababooiy55d ago

What kind of world would it even be when everything in the game is for sale with real money the moment it launches. There is 0 balance when people can just dump $10000 on some ship the size of a small planet and one shot everything.

MrBaskerville54d ago

I'm not a fan of the expensice ships, but I don't think it's the type of game where balancing is important. Seems more like a simulation type thing where you do whatever you want, than a pvp thing.

Chocoburger55d ago

I'm seeing numbers that range from 644 million up to 834 million dollars raised for this scam.
Quick, someone give this scam company some more money to prevent these layoffs!

senorfartcushion55d ago

People are literally paying for a company to exist, it's mad. The Devs are more nationalised than the postal service.

Duke1955d ago (Edited 55d ago )

Imagine paying in to a $700M tech demo. If this game ever does release its gonna be a bigger disappointment than starfall. Although with these layoffs I wouldn't be surprised if they canned the project soon anyway

PrinceOfAnger55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

And if the game comes to PS5 you will buy and play it?

Duke1955d ago

IF it ever released and was actually was something paying to play - sure. (Probably PC) But people that continue to dump money into this scam of a project are insane to me. Would get more of a return just lighting that cash on fire

anast55d ago

The game looks fun. I don't have a PC to run to the specs I would like. if it releases on console, I would be all over this game.

badz14955d ago

@PrinceOfAnger

bold of you to assume that it will be released during the PS5's lifecycle. the money keeps coming in, there's just no way they are gonna give that up and release the game.

jwillj2k455d ago

I got disagreements from my last post saying the CEO was taking pics with fans in a suit made of 100 dollar bills.

After all of the years of them breaking records monetarily with little to show the supporters (myself included about 12 years ago), there should be legitimate class action, civil and criminal lawsuits filed against them.

Andrew33655d ago

For what? It's an early access game that you can play and have been able to play. If people didn't see any value in what it offers they wouldn't be giving their money.

PrinceOfAnger55d ago

Exactly
Some people acting like you get nothing and there is no game many paid only 30/40 $ and said they had fun with it more than released AAA games.

SimpleSlave55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

It's not really an Early Access but a Means to maintain a high standard of living for Roberts and Fam. There's a reason he has allowed feature creeps to be an actual feature in the development of these games. He knows he can do this.

It's what it is but lets stop pretending these are but measly Early Access games that have Oopsie! their deadlines for a Decade. C'mon, bud. Let's be real here.

And if you want to help him with maintaining his Lifestyle then go for it. To each their own. But I think it's fair to say that this thing has gone from just a simple Sunk-Cost Fallacy problem to a straight up Cult-like phenomenon.

With that said, I do hope that those still around live long enough to see an actual release to these games.
Good luck. 👍

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got_dam55d ago

I agree. The level of slime they display by having multi-thousand dollar in game purchases without ha ingredients actually released a full game.

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