The STFUandPLAY team discusses the implications of day one patching, missing MP3 and music CD compatibility and Sony and Microsoft possibly rushing their new consoles to market.
the insider CBOAT said the XB1 is rushed, the plan was for a 2014 release, they never expected Sony to do a 2013 release because IMOO the PS3 had a big number of exclusives for the PS3 yet to release, as a result of the rush the system wasn't tested enough and ESRAM became a bottleneck for higher than 720p resolution, also the OS crash chances are high and the network is unstable resulting in frequent disconnections http://www.gamespot.com/for... http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
Dont forget they also been fumbling xD cuz they rushed. Bad move M$
All speculation, but looking at the PS4's launch lineup they probably weren't ready for 2013 either - clearly their plan this round was "no matter what, we can't let MS go first.. again".
"All speculation" that what they said about the 720p resolution of BF4, and again about the 720p resolution of CoD but it was all true, and these reports are from the same sources, sources that proved their truth while Albert Panello was exposed.
I'm saying my comments were all speculation. As for rumors from 'insiders', these will always be hit or miss. One being right doesn't mean we should assume the rest are, even if it's the same 'source'.
Agreed. PS4 has gone well with great planning. MS was blindsided and rushed their media box to market. I feel like they where working all the media in the box and pushed the software capabilities for later. I wonder what else CBoat knows that he isn't telling us...
their IS something else from the chatter in NeoGaf but they refuse to even hint at it, they keep it locked in PM
So why did Sony decide to rush and then force MS to rush? When the system needs a patch day one just to use Blu-Ray and doesn't support basic things like MP3 and DNLA it doesn't sound like a system that was ready to go.
You still listen to CBOAT Lol let's go over somethings he has said MS would announce a Platinum games exclusive at E3 or Gamescom- wrong MS DRM will get worse- wrong Xbox One downclocking- very wrong (upclocks to gpu and cpu) PS4 launching in October- wrong Mirror's Edge 2 Xbox exclusive at E3- wrong Prince of Persia at E3- wrong Exclusive DLC for a Capcom game at E3- wrong Phil Spencer game World of Banks announced- wrong 60 minute limit to family sharing- wrong Xbox Live wouldn't offer f2p games- wrong Indies are limited to 2 cores and 3 gb's-wrong Hmmm
cboat reminds me Michael Pachter. In a 100 predictions he'll probably get 10 that are right.
The PS4 is showing no signs of being rushed. As for the XBO, it seems like it. To me at least. They've increased the GPU and CPU (minor upgrades, but still) and they plopped in the ESRAM. CBOAT reported that the XBO was rushed and seeing as he's on a roll with next gen rumors, I'm inclined to believe him. I usually try not to jump to conclusions, but there are just so many red flags coming from the XBO. @betrayed gamer, That's a valid point. Personally, I don't really care about mp3 playback. I've got a phone and a computer for that. I get that it's an issue for some people, but I'm not going to take that as a reason to believe the PS4 was rushed. It is a games console anyway. What I will take to believe that the PS4 is slightly rushed is the BD player thing. It's quite strange to me.
no mp3 playback? how is that not a sign of rushing. if the xbox one was rushed which i will agree it was, how the heck can it play movies and mp3's no problem? the main issue is the codecs for games that are giving developers problems. both systems have issues and will have issues. this is a launch of a new generation both consoles will have highs and lows and even a case of the sharts now and then.
also everyone has a phone or a pc that can play music, but what about people who want it playing during the game? why do i have to use another device to play my music while im using one that should be able too?
As much as I love Sony and give them a ton of credit its pretty clear both consoles were rushed. Sony's Day 1 update that enables blu-ray playback is a perfect example, among other things. That being said I'm still getting a PS4.
I am sure it's the bluray aspect is anti piracy issue.
@Bennibop - I very well could be, but it doesn't negate the fact that it should have been on board at launch, same with DVD play back, multimedia, DLNA, MP3 support etc.
Not disagreeing with you but the update is 300mb doesn't sound like it's installing much but just trying to connect to Sony's network for some ok's. People have been complaining to Shu so I'm sure this is something they'll correct in the first couple months.
No signs of the playstation 4 being rushed when it can't play music CDs and has a patch for nearly every feature?
Music CD's was a decision. MP3 was probably due to licensing. You NOW have to pay to use MP3 now. It used to be free. They started producing these consoles a LONG time ago. I'm sure there are some that have been sitting in boxes since BEFORE the preorders were up. They said they had hit full production sometime in June, which means before hand, there was some sort of limited production. So yes, unless you expected all the OS features to be ready by early June, then those features were going to be patched in.
my take on no audio cds or mp3s: it was a calculated measures so they could push music unlimited. they are trying to sell subscriptions to their service, and thought a good way to do that was by leaving out music playback on ps4. now if thats the case, i completely disagree with this measure and am very disappointed that they would try that. but i dont think that the exclusion of audio playback was because they rushed it to market.
Haha yeah whatever, people where so desperate for next gen before it was announced. ..
another hypocritical article try to put both consoles at parity, in reality only xbone is rushed, weak and worthless.
Seeing as neither are actually in the market, I am not able to answer this question with any sort of factual information. But I know what I'll be doing on the 15th.
They're rushed to a market? But but, wich mar, how do I, WHAT MARKET? *rushes out the door*
all this rushed crap its clear both MS and sony want you to connect there consoles to the net ie day one updates its there way of saying its better with an internet connection....
No for both. I mean damn, it's been 7/8 years.
PS4 announcement of the reveal started the ball rolling what at the end of Jan? PS4 was designed to be released in 2013. Perhaps a year or so earlier they thought later, who knows. But by the time Jan came around they knew it was going to happen this year. As for Microsoft? They clearly were 2014. No if's, and's, or butt's. Not even debatable. Microsoft didn't even reveal their console until what, may? Given Microsoft's shoddy track record, and the fact that they are rushing madly to catch up with the PS4, I'm far more concerned with Xbox One's potential problems in theory (since I'm not getting one). They both will probably have issues, but only one console and one network was not pushed into a 2013 release.
They were both positioned for a 2013 release. MS switched almost all their first party development to X1 at the end of holiday 2011. Their only large first party release in 2012 was Halo 4 (Gears Judgement was a secondary studio, Forza Horizon was not Turn 10). So I don't see how that is rushing to market given that MS switched devt two years ago. I think that MS is being more ambitious in the number of changes they are making then Sony. Sony shifted the hardware platform (dropping cell) but for the most part is keeping the core operating system and PSN the same. MS seems to have re-written the core operating system from the ground up and is revamping XBL as well to be server centric.
Both of these consoles were rushed trying to beat each other to the market. The PS3 was just doing fine with the Last of US coming out this summer. On top of that GTA5 came out in October with Batman following. They could have waited another year. Both are struggling to produce native 1080P across the board.
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