Rainbow Six: Vegas HD Video

While you might have seen this same video posted during E3, here is a new version in true 720p high definition with full commentary voice-over explaining the game's new options, features, and enhancements.

[amrasmord]

this game looks so cool. correct me if im wrong but dosent this game come out at launch? if it does, im getting it along with WarHawk.

[Gamer13]

Looks good at this stage.

[Alexander]

Its looks good running on the 360 hardware yes, what about running PS3 title?

/EDIT/ Hahahahaha I thought I was in the PS3 section and was about to bash the stupidy of the above person who 'thought it was a running PS3 game'

My bad...although it has put my comment in both the 360 and PS3 sections so. Take this warning arrrr "It be runnin' on the box matey"

[achira]

who says that the xbox360 version is better than the ps3 version??? you can be sure that the ps3 version will be smoother and will have better graphics.

[WhEeLz]

again and again i say..... XBUGS + PS3 SECTION = PS3 FAN.....anywayz, i cant wait till this game comes out..i mean D@mn man...if it looks this good on 360...i cant wait for the ps3 version!!!!

[FamoAmo]

If you think the ps3 version will be better thats funny!!! The PS3 will recieve the 360's port!!! Like alot of developers said already that the games releasing on both consoles will be the 360 ported to the ps3!!

[pRo loGic II]

What the hell are you guys talking about?... QUOTE:(ps3 version will be smoother and will have better graphics ) Yah! just like all the other Sony console's did over the competion.lol

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

IM picking up this game up for sure, looks nice!. (AI)on 360 will be better)in general,in future games.

[TheMART]

Haha yeah PS3Lordpussy is ssj04 in fact, must be. There are no others this dumb

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

It's his use of English that gave it away and his unbelievable hate towards MS and it's fans.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Ooo they want us to fight, haha if u go to 360 side of the site it's the same as the PS3 side of the site. well this should be on the 360 side anyways considering it has no bearing on the PS3 since it's not footage for that system

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

My #6 comment was in pun.

[Madmax1281980]

ps3lord what the hells the matter with u ive never heard of any1 whose xbox360 went on fire or burned there house down u stupid fanboy whats to say that the ps3 wont go on fire and burn ur house down (wich i hope it does) u inbred fool go and learn english b4 u post any comments u cant spell for sh!t. i swear to god some mothers do ave em.

[TheMART]

@ achira

I find it most amusing what you say:

"who says that the xbox360 version is better than the ps3 version??? you can be sure that the ps3 version will be smoother and will have better graphics. "

So why can we be sure that the PS3 version will be smoother and have better graphics? Haven't seen any game running on a devkit yet that suprised me positive. Only negative.

So rethink. And know that the 360 GPU is faster and not a standard Nvidia 7900. I'll bet the versions will be quit the same. As long as the delay&paystation won't be cancelled because Sony can't pull it off and can't handle the huge losses with that overpayed BetaRay in it

[Bill Gates]

because the PS3 already has games running at 60fps on non-final dev kits. THAT'S why!!! Most developers are pushing for at least 60fps on all PS3 games as a standard.

[TheMART]

1. So name the games

2. Non-Final devkits, those are just PC's with more power then the PS3 will have. Mark my words, PS3 games will get 720p and maybe be upscaled to 1080p.

3. And if, if there would be a few games really in 1080p... WHAT'S THE USE? There's less then 0,01% of all gamers that have a 1080p native resolution TV and the coming 5 years nobody can afford or want such a TV. Everybody is buying a 720p HD tv nowadays those are affordable.

So Sony made the wrong choice, just by giving blabla like the 2 x HDMI ports that dissapeared or left just 1, the CGI footage and now we see Warhawk PS2 quality as Motorstorm is.

It's all no use Bill

[Retard]

Wow, the architecture is simular to nVidia 7900.

As Xenos was suppose to be simular to R580

Don't get your panties in a knot just yet, wait till the spec sheets actually say 'finalized.'

[Bill Gates]

TAKE NOTE!!

"It's just the hardcore people that have a problem with it. Core gamers are little b!tches. They complain about everything because they're used to a certain standard of living, and whenever anyone dares to change it they complain. You don't see people stressing out about the prices of new cars, computers, or appliances nearly as much. The cost of living is going up. If you don't want a PS3, then don't buy one."

[TheMART]

Then don't come in the 360 section to whine about that console that isn't even real, doesn't have real spec's yet and it has to come out at the end of this year

WELL SONY IS ON TIME DON'T YOU THINK SO?
hahaha

[achira]

you as a xbox360 fans should be calm, you know that ms used pc as devkits also, at this time a year ago !!! and i am not sure if this info is right, i think the devkits are not pcs. look at the xbox360 games one year ago and you will see why the ps3 will be a lot better.

[TheMART]

Nope, there are a few differences:

MS showed realistic footage. Often less graphical then in the end it would be for real.

Sony does it the other way around, they show CGI material that's not possible to reach ingame and then afterwards it's dissapointing.

BTW you're totally misinformed. MS didn't use PC's as devkits, but Apple Mac's. But if you say the final spec's on GPU and so on are not final, on what other will it run then as PC's?

So think again, the PS3 games won't look better. I bet it'll all look about the same and with the 360 GPU better as stated this game Rainbox Six is running on 360 now. So let's first see if Sony pulls the launch off this time.

How can you ever say that games on a platform will be better if the spec's aren't even there and the whole machine isn't on the market? That's plain stupid

[Bill Nye]

Please don't post news that requires paid membership to view. How many of us actually have IGN Insider to view the 720p trailer?

[Marriot VP]

dusty, sorry mate but IGN just screws their audience over.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Just a thought but everyone is hyping all these launch games for the PS3, like tekken, warhawk, motorstorm, MGS4 etc. but if all the BIG name games come out when the system is launched (Launch games are obviously always not as good as the rest) what is their to look forward to for the rest of the year for the PS3? Maybe I'm wrong I don't know, but it seems like all the best PS2 games and most hyped are launch games.

[Retard]

For both Xbox360 and PS3; I'm hoping new AAA titles come out other then remakes or another Halo, Metal Gear... Yadda.

I'm hoping for a new AAA game to hit the shelves and ones we havn't heard of.

[TheXgamerLive]

someone linked the ps3 version instead of the xbox 360 version but to be honest the version they show is the same which was the xbox 360 that was played at E3. There was and still is no playbale ps3 version as of yet. And Yes, this game will be incredible cant wait to buy it and play live!!!!!! Oh and this is just my opinion but I cant see the ps3 getting this or several other games due to the fact that it bottlenecks on anything graphically greater that say a pacman game. It really makes me laugh to see it hear someone mention ps3 version of a game when I know good and well that it "aint" going to happen:)

[achira]

ps3 has no bottlenecks you fool, your xbox360 is a bottleneck. stop bashing the ps3 if even the final specs are not out. the rsx is two times faster as the xenon the cell is 3 times faster as the xenos, the ram is faster as the xbox360 ram, so about what bottleneck do you speak, you brainwashed ?

[Grown Folks Talk]

ps3 gpu 550 mhz, 360 gpu 500 mhz. not sure, but that doesn't equal 2x as fast to me.

[Bill Gates]

Notice how this game does not have a single lame vote so far. It's because this game is multiplatform. If this game were to only be a PS3 game, it would be loaded with lame votes. But still tis site is filled with lame 360 fans.

[Grown Folks Talk]

sony fans are marking 360 only articles as lame too. i think they should get rid of the whole cool/lame period. half of the people that vote on the article don't even make a comment. they just vote lame. don't know why it is so hard for people to understand that everyone has different opinions. if you think the 360 sucks, but your best friend buys one, are you going to call him/her names, and stop being their friend? if you think ps3 is going to suck and your buddy wants one, are you going to stop hanging around them? it's just video games.

[neeharb]

I agree the PS3 version will be better because it will not come out this year ...May be it will come out in five years time when PS3 launches .... LOOSERS PS3 s##ks!!!!

[achira]

the only looser are you. pretending that you dislike a ps3 and buying one at launch is the only thing you xbots can do.

[Aflac]

there is no way in helll im buyin a ps3. you say the most retarded and immature things that any1 has ever seen "pretending that you dislike a ps3 and buying one at launch is the only thing you xbots can do."- you must be on crack to think that we pretend to hate sony-what would be the motive?! sony sux big ones, I had a lot more fun plain five hrs on a friends xbox than i ever did on my ps2. sony and its 3rd party developers make the most lame-@$$ games of all time, heck, the graphics on n64 werent as good as ps2s, but the gameplay was far better-much more complicated, took over 100hrs to beat a lotta games, unlike ps2 games that could be beaten in 2-3hrs tops, and also ps2games had the most lame@$$ multiplayer of all time (why did they bother makin a multitap if they were rarely gonna use it?!), the multiplayer games had the crappiest options ever, xbox was instantly a party game system, as is the 360.
Blurays extra storage caapacity?- pretty much all ps2 games took 1.2GB on the discs at most, they are defiately not usin the extra storage for more levels, but probly to program the disc and the messed up processors that developers complain about to work better. sony and its other developers only make short games, which is just cheap, none of which have any replay value either.

I am so glad i sold my ps2 and few games (for 200-lol)

[achira]

you dont evene know how the ps3 will be and you hate it before its out. so you are the idiot with prejudices, i on my side can say that xbox360 is crap, its out and it definitivly does not rock.

[TheMART]

You don't even know how the PS3 will be and you love it before it's out.

That's just as true as your comment. So you are idiot with your prejudices that it will be the best blabla. You can't say the 360 is less because you don't own one. The last xbox was better then the PS2 on graphics and online. This time it will even be worse for PS, MS has 4 years of knowledge en experience on Live. They will crush Sony on that part.

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

RB6 is a popular game, has nothing to do with PS3 nor 360 Tom Clancy games rock. Look it's simple games that suck you vote lame and vice-versa. We 360 fans like or hate games and it's not out of spite against Sony.

[Trickedbullet]

I agree with you. But Sony only knows how to do one thing right, lie. Lie so very well that thousands of people who lack a brain will follow sony into its grave. Someone should take over sony and run them into the ground.

[achira]

what lies do you mean??? you know ms lies 100 times more then sony, like any other company, so stop talking crap, you are the one with a lack of brain, if you say ms is better.

[Aflac]

Sony doesnt lie any less than microsoft and u know it! why ppl remain loyal to a company that continuealy lies to them, I will never know, Id seek revenge and side with the competitor-especially in a case like this where the competitor is actually more powerful anyway. the 360 can handle completely life like graphics as can the ps3. you cant get any better graphics than lifelike, if u think LOGICALLY. unless u mean to say ps3 is gonna have an imax-like experience where everything onscren looks like its jumpin out of the screen-which we all know that no one is gonna be doing that during this generation.

achira, u make the most childish comments I have haver seen (as does shadowflare and ssj04/PS3Lord). not even 1% of the comments you have said have been right in any way. you say the 360 version of this game will suck?!- how can it will have the same graphics as the ps3 version?! THAT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!

Maybe u should start all over agian with preschool.

LMAO

[Retard]

I'm more of a (Sony) fan then Mircosoft fan; But either way I'm going to own both Xbox360 and Playstation 3; I'll own both because they both have differnt advantages.

By in large I doubt one will be uberly superior over the other; Just as last generation took place.

Can't you guys agree with that, and stop the agruements and picking on the few lonesome Sony fans?

:(

[TheMART]

Allright then what lies do you mean, here you are:

2 x HDMI? It became 1 x HDMI at the expensive one

NO HDMI at 'cheapest' version

At last E3 all PS3's would get 2 x HDMI Ports. And 1080p with that Nvidia 7900 standard GPU won't happen at high specs, it can only do 24 FPS with 4096 colours at once. YEAH TETRIS @ 1080P 24 FPS in 4096 colours weeeeee

So who has a 1080p native HD tv anyways? Right, no one. And they won't in the coming 5 years either. Again raw power spec's lying bull that no one uses. All lies

Killzone 2 CGI and other CGI footage last year E3? All lies. Killzone 2 nowhere to be seen this E3. Gears of War is real in game what Killzone CGI was showing. Period. Sony's lying and to high hopes and then you get the real gamefootage:

- Warhawk which looks like a PS2 game
- Motorstorm, also PS2 with some blur to coverup the less graphics then last year's E3 was showing

And if you forgot already: Sony killed the Dreamcast with it's lies. The PS2 wasn't better at all. The old xbox was graphical better also.

Sony did lie before about the online stuff on the PS2. And yet they partly said that online gaming would be free now. YEAH RIGHT, one knows what it costs to keep server for a game and then all games cost? Loads of money. You think Sony will pay all that? Nope. Or you will have to pay for monthly use, or the game producer will ask extra to support it. A online mess again. Saga continues, problems, lies

The Delaystation: lies delay lies, beginning 2006, spring 2006, summer 2006, Christmas 2006, somewhere between 2007 and 2010 or never because Sony will go bankrupt over the BetaBluRay push they want to swallow you and bring money to Sony

And if you really want to now all the real lies, go read on this link

http://wikihost.org/wikis/u...

[achira]

i never said that the graphic of the xbox360 sucks. i only said that the ps3 will have better graphics. and sorry but lifelike graphic will even not be possible on xbox760. and you ask me how can people trust a company like sony. and i ask you how can you trust a company like ms ??? its obviously the greediest company on the world. you have to ask yourself why you are so foolish.

[TheMART]

Ok then if you say PS3 games would look better, give details. I've given by explaining some of the GPU's. You give none only blabla it will be better.

Better? You're not able to say so. There's no PS3 up to now, and the spec's are not clear you say. I say it's a standard Nvidia 7900 and the 360 has a special designed GPU which is superior to the PS3 one. Search it up and then come again to talk about it

[Madmax1281980]

achira: WHAT operating system are you running on ur pc?!? so next time please think b4 u speak every company is in it for the money u damn fool

[Jay da 2KBalla]

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL...........that I could have said either post better myslef. Nice post man

[Gamer13]

Who the hell care about which version will look good. i have a 360 and ill get a Wii and a PS3 at launch so it doesn,t matter which 1 looks better i will have all the choice.

This is how good it gets when you get all next gen console, plenty of choice for me.
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[Ru]

THIS THREAD SUCKS This Game will be entertaining for acouple days and then it will suck....360 on the other hand does NOT suck and PS3 who knows?

[zinnia]

You mean; you don't care and you will buy all three system. They should do a study on how many people buy all consoles, and if their kids that have a lot of time on their hands vs family people with other things that burn their time up.

[Retard]

I will own Xbox360 and PS3; not Wii I lost interest in Nintendo there target is off for me.

How about everyone else?

[Jay da 2KBalla]

360 and wii cuz i can get on for the price of a ps3

[TheMART]

@ achira

You are really talking out of your ars:

"ps3 has no bottlenecks you fool, your xbox360 is a bottleneck. stop bashing the ps3 if even the final specs are not out. the rsx is two times faster as the xenon the cell is 3 times faster as the xenos, the ram is faster as the xbox360 ram, so about what bottleneck do you speak, you brainwashed ?"

No bottlenecks? That's funny, the first system with no bottlenecks and an endless power untill the end of times. Right, you have listened to much Sony lies.

Final spec's are not out? For a system that has to launch at Christmas? That makes me laugh my butt off. You are funny fanboys, even defending a Nvidia 7900 with these kind of lies that Sony also puts out

PS3 GPU 2 x faster as the 360 GPU? Don't think so. The 360 GPU has 48 pipelines, the PS3 GPU 24 or so. Furthermore, the 360 GPU has 10 MB extra fast Ram on top of the 512 normal Ram which is about the same as the PS3 CPU. It has been written in multiple documents that the 360 GPU is superior to the PS3 one. Take your loss you're PWNED

The PS3 CPU Cell is slightly more faster in raw power then the 360 CPU. That's allright, it only has 2 threats to put all the data through which is a real BOTTLENECK, the 360 CPU with 3 cores and 2 threats for one core, make 6 threats in total. It is better for AI, so the 360 games have better gameplay and are more intelligent in the end then PS3.

You'll see about the same games, but in the end I bet the most optimized hardware is the 360. The raw CPU power of the PS3 is quit useless, it's nice in specsheets but in reality it does nothing extra.

There you are, go and read now on the internet instead of pulling Sony's lies out of your pocket

[greenlynxx]

It is also interesting to note that the PS2 had better specs than the Xbox but the Xbox still outperformed the PS2 hands down. It is going to be interesting to see how things will play out this generation.
I love how these children come on this site and start trying to justify their purchase by bashing one console or the other. Until both are released there is no reason to believe, based on the conclusions of those who are in a better position to analyse the performance power of both machines, that one should make console buying decision (PS3 vs Xbox360)based on console performance. This is simply because it has been demonstrated multiple times that it is a mute issue.

[Retard]

First of all, AI is code not actual intelligence.

Yes the Xbox has 3 processors. Yes they are clocked at 3.2GHz. It still runs at 3.2GHz it's just that the 3 are running at the same time. So it can do 3 things at once, in theory. The cell is also clocked at 3.2GHz and has 8 cores (one control processor and 7 SPEs). But you can't compare GHz to GHz, because the processors are two completely different designs. It just doesn't work that way. The cell uses pure vector processors which are basically more efficient than the 360s general purpose; Meaning they can do more at a lower clock. Each SPE has its own dedicated pool of memory instead of cache. There is practically no system memory. Which means that there is practically no lag time. This means that it can interact with the other parts with less lag time and more information can be transmitted between them.

As a vector processor it can also render graphics. Basically meaning it accelerates the GPU.
The RSXs' 24 pixel pipelines have 2 ALU and are just as good as 48 pixel pipelines in the Xenos.

BUT THIS IS ALL COMPLETELY THEORETICAL. So, we should all just wait till its' actually finialzed. Right?

Bottom line... It's a console, for games; and I'm willing to bet Sony will make a console that plays games, just like Microsoft did.

Or Sony might be making the microprocessor to launch Skynet (Terminator Series...) and end the planet as we know it.

[TheMART]

No AI is artificial intelligence. I didn't call it like you are explaining.

Your story is party complete. The Cell has 7/8 sort of emulated cores. Not real ones. It gives raw power, which could do some stuff but just as with PS2 those specs didn't give better results. It's the mix of hardware. We've seen that before, XBOX was superior at all stages. You must admit that.

The difference between PS3 CPU and 360 CPU won't give the real advantage. The GPU does give the difference. Read a little bit more about the pipeline stuff and especially about the 10 MB Rambuffer that has the 360 GPU as an extra. It provides a 256 GB port datatransport, which compared to the 22 GB of the PS3 is mindblowing. It looks like a small extra, but boost up performance over the PS3 possibilities for sure. Search on the web much hardware analists have written about it.

And ofcourse it's all theoretical and we'll only see when the PS3 will run. If it will run because Sony didn't delay it for fun. They have problems for sure with their hardware. Especially as we see their devkits still aren't done properly, the spec's aren't fixed, game developers complain about the situation and more.

Uhm Sony itself is saying they don't make a game console, but something like a PC or so ;)

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Once again u took da words out my mouth. But yea lets also note that 360's gpu and cpu are completely customized and are not just thrown in and labled a nice sounding name like the reality synthesizer(RSX) especially with games like warhawk. hmmmmm

[schnodder]

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[Cyclonus]

Get off your fence.

[schnodder]

Do you have a problem with playing games ??? lol

[Gamer13]

im 18 years old and ill get all 3 consoles i already got a 360, money aint the problem.
burn what time up, ill play 2 to 3 hrs a day on my 360 and my psp so half hr on my psp and 2 to 3 hours on my 360.
and my girlfriend don,t have a problem with that im spending quality time with her during the nights.
IM OUT.
zinnia don,t let this be a problem for you.

[TheMART]

Money ain't a problem 18 years old?

1. You're daddy has money as water
2. You're dealing drugs
3. You robbed a bank

[Gamer13]

once your working there is no problem.
and it don,t matter if im dealing drugs are robbing a bank are my father gots money.
In the last gen i had A PS2 a Xbox and Gamecube.
In the next that already begins with the 360.
All next gen consoles for me.
I will never stick to 1 console.
I a bought a 360 for Gears of war Halo 3 forza 2 etc.
ill get a Wii for red steal etc.
ill get a PS3 for GT5 and MGS etc.
IM OUT
YH BIG PIMPING.
ill be pimping out my car next week.

[TheMART]

I know my friend, I am working for some years now and earning good money. But still there are things like mortgage, and other things, choices to make. You should have a good job and live home with parents, pay no livingmoney to them and so on to be able to buy all, buy games and have a no-high maintanance girlfriend otherwise you have big loans ;)

[Gamer13]

I don,t do loans, i work and i do side jobs, its not like when you buy a console yull need to update it every month - once you buy a console thats it no more to pay and about games i buy 1 game a month and maybe another in 2 to 3 month it depends - i play online games which is alot of fun and games do last long once you hook it up to your computer.

YH thats how i do.

TheMART you need to chill leave it to me.

[Phytonadione]

as does MS. Can't we all agree that both (and all) companies "lie". I don't feel I need to extrapolate on Sony's lies as someone has taken the liberty to name most of them off...and since most of you xbox fans either suffer from short-term memory or selective memory, let me remind you of the lies they spewed that stood out for me: Halo 3 waiting for PS3 launch, HD-DVD with 360 launch, backwards compatibility will be fully supported (as it should be, since they were a bit light (quality-wise) on the launch titles), GT4 is a 360 exclusive, and the infamous Vista delay. I'm not defending Sony by attacking MS, just stating some facts that show both companies lie.

[Grown Folks Talk]

halo 3 comment was more trash talk and marketing than a lie. hd-dvd was not promised, hd gaming was, and is present. backwards compatibility can be, and is still being worked on, and wasn't said to be 100% at launch. (who cares anyway keep your xbox if it matters so much, and the launch titles were pretty good compared to previous system launches). exclusive content for gta iv through marketplace, not console exclusive title. posters said exclusive, not microsoft. as far as vista, i can't speak, but i'm sure problems can arrise to delay a new software like that. at least in this case it is probably an actual delay. unlike the ps3 delay, which by looking at all factors, was never going to be launched in spring in japan or anywhere else. the fact that there isn't a complete ps3 game, and spring is basically over, was sony going to launch a system with no games? the specs aren't finalized? maybe because they wanted to wait long enough so their product would actually be stronger and match up better. rsx isn't finished? which means no spring launch was EVER possible. no finished games. again, spring launch NOT possible. if you want a ps3, fine, enjoy it. if people can't see that sony is stringing people along, and bullsh*tting, i don't know what they are looking at. it's all marketing ploys and hype to prevent the outsider from getting a 360. they already know their fans for the most part will get the ps3. they are trying to sway everybody else. bs doesn't make me want to buy anything, but that's my opinion.

[Grown Folks Talk]

i do agree however, that all companies do lie to try and get our money.

[Phytonadione]

"problems can arise to delay new software like that"? Is hardware a different story? Sony did tell us that the PS3 would be delayed well before "spring" ended (I say this in partial jest). You are correct about the unfinished, untested components of the PS3, and you may also be correct about it all being part of Sony's strategy to string consumers along, but you may also be wrong. It could be that they were sincerely trying to get the system ready by spring, test the PS3 on the "loyal" Japanese consumers, fix the bugs, and then release a relatively bug free version of the PS3 to the U.S. and Europe, just in time for Christmas. Looking back at history, this is usually the strategy employed by the Japanese console makers. Maybe they realized a little too late that the plan was going to fall through, but decided to keep hush in order to keep up the pressure on the game developers, guarenteeing better games for the actual launch in November. I know, I know, this theory is really stretching optimism, but no matter how you see it, it really is just all speculation. Oh, and how is the Halo 3 comment just "more trash talk and marketing than a lie"? He didn't say "I think Halo 3 will be ready for the PS3 launch", he said "and we'll have Halo 3 ready when they are ready to launch". That, by all accounts (fanboy accounts), would constitute as a lie. Not that I really care. It's something I expect of all big corporations; exaggerating everything to the point of being called "liars" by the extremely dull and ignorant. And regarding your statement about bc, I remember an article that was posted not too long ago that speculates (key word) that MS is just going to phase out their effort to make most of their games (or patch the ones that aren't working properly) bc and hope no one notices. I think this was extrapolated from the interview in question by the fact that the MS rep was downplaying the importance of bc, which would be in stark contradiction to what was being said a year ago. And you don't have to remind me that Sony is worse when it comes to damage control. Me thinks Sony needs better marketing strategists, people that can think inside the box.

[Grown Folks Talk]

for a change, to have a difference of opinion, but be able to talk about it without childish bs. i respect your position, but i still think mine is closer to the truth (maybe not completely). at least you can express yourself without being a d*ck. i know all companies are full of it, but if an individual wants a product badly enough, they'll get it. ps3 will sell like crazy, no doubt. i at this time, can do without it. for my personal taste, it's not worth $200 more than the 360 to me.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

Halo3 to launch with PS3 wasn't a lie it was miss-understood by Bill or lack of cumunication with Bungie ect. Bad sh1t happening to a company or change of gameplan for a logical reason is not the same thing as having shaddy bussiness tactics. Please don't make me paste and dig up stuff.THE ISSUES WITH MS AND SONY: NOT THE SAME THING ^^^.

[Phytonadione]

Again, the Halo 3 comment was a lie. If you don't believe me, go to church and give the pastor/priest/rabbi the actual comment that was made by Bill Gates and the statement that was made by Bungie, and they will tell you that it constitutes as a lie and that he will surely go to hell unless he repents (maybe not hell if you are Jewish). But in all seriousness, Bill Gates is "the man" at MS, how should he not know, and if he didn't know, then does that make it all right? Again, I must clarify, that these are not my points of view, but rather the viewpoints that you xbox fans have of Sony, just turned around. Like a mirror, if you can grasp that. And to the Sony fans reading this and nodding your heads, it goes both ways. "Bad sh1t happening to a company or change of gameplan for a logical reason is not the same thing as having shaddy bussiness tactics"? Are you refering to MS with that last statement? Last I remember, MS has many, many, more lawsuits filed against it's "business tactics" than Sony. I've read into some of the cases brought against MS, for a econ class I took at college, and did not agree with most of the charges, but nonetheless, they (MS) sure know how to bend/buy the rules. Maybe MS is just better at it than Sony...who knows, who cares.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

Sony telling retailers to put DreamCast in the back or they don't get any PS2's is not a normal mishapp... If you ever compare Sony and MS again!, i'll report you're comment as Spam/Offensive...

[Phytonadione]

If you know of where I can read about Sony's control over retailers, I would be much obliged. It sure would lighten up my day. Oh and yes, I do think that Sony and MS are very much alike. They want your money. They want it bad. They want it really bad. And to quote every comedies' stereotype of a crackhead, "Give me $20. C'mon on man! Alright, give me $10.......I suck your d!ck!".

[TheMART]

Ofcourse they both want consumers money

THEY ARE FREAKING COMPANY'S WITH PROFIT IN MIND NO NON-PROFIT ORGANISATIONS

As long as they're delivering -like MS does at least- consumers are willing to pay. You have the choice not to buy and that's that.

Comparing Sony's lies and MS's is total off balance. Sony wins by far in those. And all about it you can find here

http://wikihost.org/wikis/u...

[clayton]

There are no final PS3 dev kits in the real world, maybe in gaystation land but not on planet earth. The PS3 GPU is basically an NVidia 7900 as posted earlier, there is no graphics card on earth like the 360's, if the PS3 games utilize anti-aliasing the performance will take a hit, not the case on the 360. And atleast they don't lie about the 360's capabilities.

[Majunior]

agreed sony is nothin but holdin back the truth and tellin lies

[clayton]

I think they will have major problems manufacturing the cell processor in high enough yields for mass production. And as PC gamers already know, the 360 is gamers heaven, has everything pc guys ever wanted except m/kb support for games. You keep on saying that microsoft lied about the Halo 3 release, do you know they lied, has the PS3 launched yet? So how do you really know that Halo 3 won't launch when the PS3 launches, it hasn't happened yet. As far as Vista, when did they lie? They delayed the OS, I'm sure for a good reason, I am currently running Beta Vista right this very minute, while I am chatting with you, and I have to say it is amazing to say the least, it blows Mac's Tiger out of the water. Microsoft doesn't want your money as bad as you think, just go to Microsoft.com and get free software from VB.NET to MYSQL development software for FREEEEEEEEEE!!! In my book Microsoft is one of the best companies in the world to work for, as stated by Forbes, they are in the top 10 companies in the whole world to work for why? Because they don't feed you bullshit, by the way Sony wasn't even on the list, Wal Mart would make it on the list before Sony.

[Majunior]

lol awesome couldnt have said it better

[USMChardcharger]

this game is a must buy. i so in oxm where even the carpets have physics.
a smoke gernade goes off and the carpet goes flying...good stuff.

[user9422077]

awesome!