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Why Killzone Shadow Fall Is Almost 40GB (It Used To Be 290...)

There's been some consternation about the file size of next-gen games since Sony's UK boss told Eurogamer that Killzone was "cracking on for 50GB" and Nividia suggested that the PC version of Call of Duty: Ghosts required 50GB of hard drive space. (Infinity Ward has now reduced that to 40GB.) With the new consoles moving towards digital delivery and servers struggling to distribute titles like GTA5, how would our poor internets and hard drives cope with all that data? And why is Killzone so big in the first place?

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jhoward5854261d ago (Edited 4261d ago )

Dang, the graphic are incredible. KZ is by far the best looking games I've even seen.

DomceM4261d ago

Console gamers never seen anything else so how would they know. pardon their ignorance.

supes_244261d ago

Great, here come the PC gamers on their high horses and have to blurt out anytime they can about how great their choice is over console gamers. If you're so confident in your rig why do y'all constantly have to try and justify it by coming on here and blurting out nonsense that had nothing to do with the post?

neoandrew4261d ago

He surely hasn't never seen crysis 3.

Proof that n4g is a ps worst fanboys base, telling UNDENIABLE TRUTH = getting lots of disagree.

FIREsafety4261d ago

best looking is subjective. his best looking doesnt have to be your's. he was only expressing his opinion. cant a guy have his own opinion anymore?

Am_Ryder4261d ago

I'm a PC and console gamer- Killzone 2 and 3 look better than Crysis 1, 2 and 3 on ultra settings.

Largely because they're so well designed. The areas are still very large, too, thank you very much.

neoandrew4261d ago

Fair enough, then my option is "on consoles" because crysis 3 is by far the best looking games I've ever seen.

And it is not only that, crysis 3 IS THE BEST LOOKING GAME, no one can deny it, this is the only TRUTH.

@Alex_Shedlock
This is just lie and a funny one, comparing even to crysis 1 on pc, kz is nothing.

FamilyGuy4261d ago

Pointless comment, as if you know every game he's ever seen. As if you know what makes a game good looking to him. As if you somehow speak for any and everyone.

No one cares to hear your snark remarks.

OT: killzone is at 40Gbs while Ghost is at 49gbs (according to the back of its ps4 case)
Yet killzone seems to be bigger, prettier, and to have a longer story. :/

Good work on shrinking it down GG.

ShinMaster4261d ago

You get disagrees for trolling and instigating. Not for "telling undeniable truth" or whatever.

nunley334260d ago (Edited 4260d ago )

Crysis 3 is so last gen,Killzone:SF is truly next gen. Too bad crysis gameplay never came close to it's graphics.

plaZeHD4260d ago

DomceM
Ignorance, really?
You amuse me. Don't emotional over a f*ckin VIDEO GAME.

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piroh4261d ago

and it´s just the beginning

Shane Kim4261d ago

PC elitists envy KZ graphics and constantly have to bash it to feel secure about their 2000 dollar PC rigs who barely show any graphical improvements and have no games to play.

neoandrew4261d ago

Yeah "bash", you mean telling the TRUTH that you can't deny, and not 2000USD but at most half of it.

He can say that kz has the best graphics, i can say that crysis is better, which is true.

And i don't care what you think, i don;t care the price, any i care is the TRUTH, and the only truth is that console games just can compete technically and ever will.

Ps4Console4261d ago (Edited 4261d ago )

BF & Forza look good too but KillZone I'am very impressed at the moment really am with this game & most gamers have got fibre optic now anyway .

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mandf4261d ago

Most games this gen will be 20+ gbs.

Misaka_x_Touma4261d ago (Edited 4261d ago )

with 10 hrs plus story and bad-great multiplayer

seems some people misunderstood a simple practice.

most games are just 10hrs plus and may have multiplayer that may be bad to great.

mandf4261d ago

No all AAA titles are going to use hi-res textures which take up a lot of space. Uncompressing files take up resources from the hardware. Uncompressed assets are the future on consoles because of blu- ray. Things are changing in the industry and gamers better get used to it.

Misaka_x_Touma4261d ago

hilarious amount of dislikes lol

UltimateMaster4261d ago

@mandf
No doubt about it.
And to think Microsoft wanted to install all their games on the 500Gb HDD. Ouch!
That's the advantage of consoles is that it can use High Storage Blu-Rays to play and have your games stored on rather than having all games on HDD.
Granted a PC can have multiple 4Tb HDDs, but always remember that it's an extra fee you have to buy more space for more HDD.

plaZeHD4260d ago

Exaggerated, but I got what you mean. Devs seem to sacrifice a good lengthy story for technical achievement.

Misaka_x_Touma4260d ago

@plaZeHD

That exactly what I am talking about.

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Double_O_Revan4261d ago

Playable after a 7.5gb download. Thats still a lot.

Ive been curious just how small that 'play after only downloading small portion of the game' would be.

KwietStorm_BLM4261d ago

Well it's definitely going to very from game to game. 7.5 gigs should ensure you won't have to worry about any lapses while the rest downloads, depending on how quick you get through that amount.

Campy da Camper4261d ago

Well for me, when I'm playing a new game I always take my time looking around, getting a feel of the mechanics and checking out every nook and cranny so I'm hoping this works well. Heck, in Skyrim I spent over an hour after the initial opening scene just scouring the area for secrets and loot before venturing out to the nearest town...of which sucked up another hour or so of my time.

UltimateMaster4261d ago (Edited 4261d ago )

I think GT5 was around 5Gb and it was a lot.
It took forever to download and install from the disc.
"The initial Disc installation."

Killzone Shadow Fall couldn't have it on the disc, so you'll need to download it.
Am I the only one who thinks they'll need much more storage on their discs?
You can go much higher in capacity with Blu-Ray.

Bolts4261d ago

Killzone is an open world shooter. Looking around every nook and crany is about as pointless as deciding to flank a Helgas to stab him in the back or to shoot him in the face. Either way, he dies.

Skyrim it ain't.

zippycup4261d ago

triple layer blue ray discs hold 128gig so they have enough for everything no need to download anything over net other than patches

wich will in the gigabytes now

lol man i hope devs get it together and release games as close to 100% as they can and not fall back to the screw it we can patch it later

HighResHero4261d ago

If people have problems with the downloads they should probably consider a physical copy.
Some companies will still release "incomplete" games but maybe people will catch on.

KwietStorm_BLM4261d ago

What do you mean by no need? I will be downloading some games because I want to. I have the storage space and the internet connection to handle it, and having my games accessible all in one spot without having to swap them in and out is a convenience.

UnHoly_One4260d ago

So am I correct in assuming the percentage of the total game size required to be able to start playing will vary wildly from one game to the next?

For instance, with this game it works out to about 20% of the entire download size.

But I am guessing depending on how other games are designed, that percentage could be more or less, correct?

I was originally thinking it would be a flat percentage from game to game, but I guess that wouldn't make sense.

For instance, a game like Skyrim that sets you loose and you could just take off in any direction would basically require the entirety of the map to be downloaded first, I would assume.

I'm interested to see how this pans out once we get a few more examples to work with.

hollabox4261d ago (Edited 4261d ago )

I can remember not too long ago arguing with a couple of idiots about Blu Ray 50 GBs not being big enough for next gen. One guy claimed model complexity and texture size did not impact disc storage. You throw in 1080P video and 24bit 48-96 KHZ sound and suddenly BR 50 GBs seem like DVD9. I don't know if Sony and MS can allow 120 GB Blu-Ray disc to be readable via software/firmware upgrade. If so optical storage won't be too bad within the next 5 years because I will hate to download 50 plus GBs on my decent 25 mbps internet connection. Not to mention my 250 GBs cap my ISP put on me per month.

cell9894260d ago

These must have been the same idiots that defended Microsofts decision to stick with DVD for Xbox 360

UnHoly_One4260d ago

The 360 came out before Blu Ray and HD-DVD.

hollabox4260d ago

Probably, dumb on MS part, X360 could have sold allot more. But yeah not even into first gen software already and Blu Ray is starting looking obsolete, at least the 50 GB version, especially with 4K content on its way as well.

cell9894260d ago

@Unholy_One nice try, but try thinking outside the box my friend. MS very well knew about Bluray and HD-DVD, youre not going to tell me it was developed in 2 years. MS simply chose to go the cheap way, and defended that decision at all costs, saying their "compression technology was miles ahead" and how choosing DVD meant better "streaming" all bullshit of course..

UnHoly_One4259d ago

Yeah, and the 360 would have been two hundred dollars more expensive, too.

It's all a give and take, they thought it wasn't worth the extra expense, and they were right.

How many games really suffered from the disc space problem? There were a couple games that used multiple discs, big deal.

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MrCastle4261d ago

External Hard Drive support is a MUST for all next gen consoles. Let us use more than 12 gb. Looking at you xbox....

ipach4261d ago (Edited 4261d ago )

sure hope they have an easy way to move installs from the system disk to external. i don't need the game to be playable - just want to be able to store it there...

and of course this would then allow me to drop in a modest/affordable SSD and shuffle games in and out.

otherwise, i think for the sake of capacity just getting a SSHD might be the most practical way to go. looking forward to future versions with bigger NAND pools... I'm sure the launch 500GB HDD will be fine until those bigger/faster SSHDs come out.

zippycup4261d ago

usb 3.0 should be fast enough were the external drive can run games no problem

i wouldn't mind buying a 2 or 3 terabyte drive formatting it in whatever encrypted algorithm they use and just use the drive for ps4 and nothing else

CoLD FiRE4260d ago

If you're talking about the 360's limit on external USB drives, you obviously have now idea. You can use up to 32GB external USB drive for games/dlc/saves..etc. You can connect 2 32GB USB drives at the same time totaling 64GB of external storage.

With the Xbox One there will be no limit to the size of your external USB Drives.

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15 Last-Gen Games That Still Compete with Current-Gen Graphics

GB: "Say what you will about the state of the industry, but even as games evolve, their graphics remain a key aspect. Even some of the biggest flops this year sport some gorgeous visuals, as publishers and developers push the boundaries of what’s possible, pouring years of time and money into their work."

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darthv72237d ago

Quantum Break and Ryse are two that I was really surprised did not get an FPS boost option when played on the Series X|S. when i started playing both on the XBO, I thought they are both good, but after playing them also on my steam deck (in 60fps) I just cant go back and play the base games on XB. They really benefit from that faster frame rate.

Driveclub is another i wished had a HFR mode on PS5.

MatrixxGT237d ago

Most games this gen are the exact same except now we get faster loading through SSD and a res and fps bump. Graphically not much has improved, hell most last gen games are being relabeled and resold as “remastered” with the aforementioned updates.
I haven’t seen or played anything on either platform that couldn’t be run on last gen. Guess the law of diminishing returns is really showing itself these days.

127maXimus237d ago

Most games from 20 years ago are basically the same as today, with resolution and fps upgrades. The AI is still just as braindead as it always has been, worlds are full of static, boring characters that do the same thing over and over.

Demetrius236d ago

Smh another reason why graphics haven't improved that much is because most devs too caught up on cross gen. Ps4 was/still a dope console but time has moved on we're halfway close to a ps6 reveal and devs still will be making games on last gen in 2025. Then theres Microsoft purposely got the Xbox series s that causes more devs to try to pull strings as much as they can smh. It's a mixed bag of stuff, the only ones I see pushing hardware is sonys studios and even some indie games look better

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman244d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX244d ago (Edited 244d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne244d ago (Edited 244d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro244d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken244d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown244d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72244d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken244d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya243d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast244d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood244d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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Killzone After a Decade in Hibernation

It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.

Obscure_Observer587d ago

Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.

Vengeance1138587d ago

lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.

Cacabunga587d ago

With the downfall of COD and BF, Killzone def. has a chance to make a groundbreaking comeback

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Notellin586d ago (Edited 586d ago )

What a low-functioning reply here typical of the fanboy N4G community.

Rimeskeem587d ago

“Dumped”

I think it’s called moving on.

Barlos586d ago (Edited 586d ago )

They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.

I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.

1Victor586d ago

@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”

Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.

ChasterMies586d ago

“Sadly”?

The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.

Shane Kim586d ago

True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.

Mr_cheese586d ago

Dumped and shelved are two different things

Tacoboto586d ago

And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.

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GoodGuy09587d ago

I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.

Flawlessmic587d ago

Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.

Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.

blackbeld587d ago

To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.

Rynxie586d ago

And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.

Lightning77587d ago

I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.

Sharky231586d ago

@Lightning77

I think WarHawk would have been a great Live service game.

thorstein587d ago

Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.

I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.

P_Bomb587d ago

It’s been a decade? Now I’m sad.

LiViNgLeGaCY586d ago

I hear ya bud. We're due for a revival.

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