Facial Tech Comparison: Killzone Shadow Fall vs Ryse vs Crysis 3

GearNuke: Next generation is almost here. Curious to see how far the graphics have evolved. We compare Killzone Shadow Fall, Ryse and Crysis 3 to see how far the facial tech has evolved for games.

[u got owned]

All three look fantastic.

[ritsuka666]

Actually Crysis 3 looks better than Killzone facial tech.

Black Block, We are the Resistance.

[Blackdeath_663]

its on PC so yeah that goes without saying. KZ is impressive though i'll be honest i was taken by surprise during the trailer didn't think GG would put that much care and attention into the character faces killzone was always about the harsh environment not so much about shiny graphics. they did a good job with shadow fall and should be a nice introduction to next gen i think shaping up to be one of the better launch titles we've had in the past two gens

[HammadTheBeast]

I think that Infamous Second Son and Order 1886 have better facial expressions than Killzone or Ryse myself.

But it's hard to compare when they all look so good.

[FlyingFoxy]

Too bad Crytek games run like crap even on good systems though, if you want to play their games be sure to buy your hardware 3 years after a game they made comes out!.

Though it doesn't bother me much, i don't find their games that interesting anyway, just flashier graphics and much worse performance than other games.

[Gamingcapacity]

Ryse is the better looking without a doubt.

[LonChaneyTV]

They left out quantum brake, shame. I still think of it as the best facial cap for a video game. http://i.minus.com/iHmzBKQ6...

[ABizzel1]

Winner: The Order 1886.

Check out Game Informer article on the game if you can.

[Destrania]

It's so funny how Xbots are still buying into the CG veils that M$ is pulling over their eyes. Ryse has pre-rendered cinematics, and they look 5x better than the actual game visuals. 90% of that story trailer they released was NOT even close to real-time, and if you actually pay attention when you watch it, you can blatantly see the difference when it transitions between the actual game vs. not. It's pretty obvious. If the Xbone was a high end PC, then the game itself would be able to match or at least come close to matching the cinematics, but it's not. And then Quantum Break isn't anything as of right now other than a CGi video that was never running on an Xbone at any point. Jeeze, people are so naive.

[HeavenlySnipes]

@Destrania

Crytek does cutscenes using using in game assets. They aren't prerendered.

@LonChaneyTV

They said that the stuff they showed was in game, in game =/= gameplay. That is a cutscene they were showing during the presentation. Quantum Break doesn't look like that

Personally, I think either Cryengine or Frostbite have the best faces in gaming. Slightly leaning towards Cryengine though. Killzone SF overall looks amazing, can't wait to play it

[xXxSeTTriPxXx]

How can you compare gifs on facial tech in the first place?

1st:your only looking at a gif, in game the facial animation will convey the given situation or emotion at hand.

2nd: they're two different art styles.by comparsion kz has a more true to life color plaette while crysis and ryse are more colorful.

3rd:crysis and ryse have very deliberate expressions while the killzone is more suddle.

4th:the eyes on crysis and ryse look lifeless while kz look more human.

Edit:also the fact that your comparing ryse cutsence with kz in game graphics is just no.

Kzsf is a great looking next gen title and is technically superior to ryse in every way barring poly count lol.don't know why ppl keep saying this choppy game is the best that nex gen has to offer as of now.

[4Sh0w]

Destrania who are you kidding those Ryse pics are not CGI its in game with the camera zoomed in, stop making excuses Ryse looks superb KZ SF does also but Ryse is a bit better. They are using some awesome new tech to make Ryse and it shows but that in no way means KZ SF is garbage so no need to spew BS because you're offended many people think Ryse looks better.

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[joefrost00]

If you throw infamous then you have to throw quantum break
In their
But this is a pointless article

[Destrania]

I never said that those cutscenes weren't made in-engine, I said that they are pre-rendered and the Xbone isn't processing any of them. When the game transitions to real-time, the quality drops dramatically because the hardware of the Xbone simply can't handle it. If the hardware was more powerful, then the cutscenes could be processed in real-time with seamless integration with the gameplay with no dip in quality, but it's not. Seriously, watch the trailer they released and pay attention. There is very drastic differences in quality throughout. Open your eyes. I also think it's funny that during gameplay the game has to highly blur basically everything around your character to even run it at 30fps.

[Brix90]

Deep Down looks amazing though...but honestly those weren't the best pictures of KZ just saying...

http://media1.gameinformer....

http://cdn3-www.playstation...

All three titles where visually impressive

[UltimateMaster]

They all look really good.
It's just that the ones from Ryse are CG Videos and not actual game play footage. It changed since we first saw it from E3. I know now what they meant by a downscale from 150k to 85k.

[pixelsword]

As far as I see it now:

-Ryse has the most realistic looking faces overall. The shadowing/detail is not the best, but they do a really good job on the emotions of the faces.

-Crysis has the best detail. The shadowing is kinda bunk because the two pics they show have the same amount of shadowing on the characters despite having a glaring sunrise in the back of one of them (notice the darkness of the uniform in contrast to the barely shadowed face next to it). I don't like those dead eyes either... what, wait; didn't Crytek make Ryse?

-Killzone has the best shadowing and the most realistic looking eyes (especially the female Helgast) The eyes are the window to the soul, and Guerrilla pretty much mastered that since the first Killzone. The shadow of the guy's face is what I'm talking about: if you have a light source in back of you and not too much lighting in front of you, you won't have a full look at the subject's face. GG gets mad props for that. Their facial models aren't the most realistic at all times although they do a really good job with facial expressions... mainly because of the eyes.

Personally, I like the look of Ryse overall (I'm a fan of the Hyborian era/ancient type games), followed by Killzone, then Crysis, but seeing these models in motion will make the difference, but be not mistaken: I would not be ashamed to own any of those games because each and every one of them look great.

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I find it funny how this one-way politicized article fails to show the games in motion and that makes "all the difference in the world". You can show me as many pics as you want of Project Cras that even look better than real life, the game still moves like jiggly *****.

When it comes to facial animations, Killzone SF just looks like Horse excrements: http://i.minus.com/iboc0UsI... Crysis 3 on the other hand, manages to surpass that by going to a level beyond anything seen in animal waste, maybe something like Barchiosaurus excrements (that incldes rocks because this fell eats rock to digest what he eats, so you get excrements with rocks):

http://abload.de/img/raschx...

Ryse from those three games looks the best graphically and in motions even that most of the times all animations whether facial, clothes or bodies look limited (like the senator's necklace which is just a mere falt texture, yes CryEngine is just all about flatlifeless textures) , but those are still High Quality, in-engine yes, but high quality pre-rendered, pre-recorded, pre-whatever you want FMVS using the highest aspects of the engine to be displayed in a cutscene, it means you will never have such quality ingame even if you crank up the graphics even on PC, this is like the pre-rendered pre-recorded CGI FMVs of Alan Wake, Hitman Absolution and The show Crysis trailers, and this is not the same case like Uncharted games where Cut-scenes and in game models uses all the same stuff no difference. Just compare Ryse GAMEPLAY to the cinematics.

This is now a fair comparison.
You just have to depict the truth of anything eventhough you have chosen a side to be on.

[saber00005]

Too me Cryteck is going down hill when they decided to make their games on the console, THEN, import to PC. That was a big blow to all the PC gamers that supported them during the development of Crysis. If I had to pick a favorite game, the 1st one was my favorite.

[Gamingcapacity]

A lot of disagree, Ryse facial texture and lighting is a lot better while Crysis looks lifeless. KZ is very good looking but not on par with Ryse cutscenes.

That said, in-game gameplay graphics is far better on KZ. Views overlooking the city, particle effects, beautiful lighting and textures are all better on KZ and the gameplay looks far superior on KZ.

You have to admit though that the Ryse cutscenes are the best for launch games.

[ImG2theB]

Killzone looks horrible in comparison.

[JokesOnYou]

U got owned, Yes they do. Ryse to me is more impressive next gen launch game, seriously the cinematic close ups are 2nd to none but hey everybody can judge for themselves.

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http://i.minus.com/i9tqk6Il...

j-blaze, really, "awful"? come on now. KZ SF looks great.

[twinspectre]

Ryse??? ah...

http://cdn.medialib.compute...

and Quantum Dream sayd that this is the minimum of PS4

this own RYSE and also QUANTUM BREAK

no fanboysm here just facts

[joefrost00]

Sorry twin
But thats a tech demo lol
Quadtic dreams tech demo the games never match it
Look at the tech demos for heavy rain and beyond they did not come out as good as the tech demos
Besides the fact that ryse looks just as good and we already know there want be thst much activity in quadtic's next with a static camera

[GameNameFame]

joefrost
what are you talking about looking good.

If you are actually comparing graphics, you should use game with 900p 20 mid fps as example.

[Dmagic]

@joefrost00 are you serious? they looked better

http://youtu.be/JuitbK5kO90

http://youtu.be/imFidS6pXfs

[Hicken]

JokesOnYou thinking Ryse looks the best? Didn't see that coming...

[mikeslemonade]

Have fun playing a movie called Ryse lol

[MrDead]

@u got owned

Well you're never going to start an argument with that attitude.

Look at all the hard work people are doing below, bringing up poly counts, texture detail, asking why NPC's are being compared to playable characters. They want to tear chunks out of you for favouring one over the other but you're not giving them the bait.

[BABY-JEDI]

I totally agree. They all look pretty remarkable. I must say the render of female character & the detail (dew) around the eyes is exceptional as well as the translucency of the skin
; D

[Xsilver]

For everything KZ has going on in the background high detailed weapons and all i'm very satisfied with the facial animation i mean their still using the KZ3 engine so that alone makes it amazing.

[pixelsword]

Killzone 3's engine is actually Killzone 2's engine, just refined; which is actually a modified form of the original Killzone engine.

mind=blown

[lex-1020]

YES. This is the most perfect 1st comment I have ever read. No fanboyism just game love. You sir are awesome.

[ssj27]

indeed!

KILLZONE SHADOW FALL eyes look way ahead any other eyes I have ever seen in a game. look at her!!! she looks amazingly beautiful.. her lips movements on the trailer do need work, they are outdated.

Crysis 3 look very current gen and fake and the ayes are very bad.

ryse look really good but very fake, plus who know how the final game will look in gameplay and no a rendered cut scene.

well the winner so far is The Sorcerer tech demo and we all know they final game will be better!

Let's not forget that KILLZONE SHADOW FALL, RYSE and crysis 3 are current gen tech with updated assets, next gen engines will look much better.

we have jet to see what Santa monica and naughty dogs can do from sony side..

and RockStart devs and let's not count out Fox engine, kojina is a genius.

[UltimateMaster]

Purple lips on that woman probably means she's an Helghan.

[NeoTribe]

They all look good because there all snapped shots doctored up in 1080p. There closups of cinematic videos. None of these are what your going to see when your playing, especially in motion. This is kinda pointless.

[DrJones]

That's what the majority here don't realize. Bubbled you up for intelligent comment

[AndrewLB]

The Crysis 3 image is 100% in game quality. In the game you approach the overlook and the dialog with Psycho begins and you still have full control of your character while he talks and there is absolutely no cut.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Gonna get down voted but I dont care

Deep Down > Ryse > Killzone > Crysis.

Actually I take that back. Graphically thats correct but If we're talking about animation Ryse is dead last....

[alexkoepp]

Off of those pics deep down is clearly the worst looking faces

The motion cap for ryse looks amazing, you must be high... I haven't seen anything that matches it

[Ps4Console]

Flame Bait .

[BallsEye]

All look great but ryse wins hands down, you can really appreciate it when you see it in motion while others still look a bit stiff. Can really see that 200+ joints in the face.

@xXxSeTTriPxXx

Straight from newest direct feed. Final build

http://images.gamersyde.com...

So you say this is superior to ryse in every way ? Just look at it again. While game looks good...it's not ryse. Look at the textures, items on the ground..and OUCH..the rain! GG said game already went gold, this will not be changed.

[smashley]

Whats with this PC everyone is a winner crap!?

[Sirlancealot]

I gotta keep it fair and square, the Ryse facial tech looks so much better than anything here. The only thing is we gotta see if that is in-game or cutscene. It also might be alot of factors like the frame rate, resolution, open worldness of killzone shadowfall. I see a lot of volumetirc fog in kz shadowfall, and global illumination, and dynamic lighting. These as I have heard are very resource intensive.

[nosferatuzodd]

1 cryses 2 killzone 3ryse

[Gozer]

Ryse is pushing the most polys.Crysis is pushing 2/3 that of Ryse, and Killzone SF is pushing less than half that of Ryse.
http://wccftech.com/ryse-po...

It has been revealed that Killzone SF uses 40k polys on its characters.
http://gimmegimmegames.com/...

[reko]

Killzone is pushing the most polys,Crysis is pushing 2/3 that of killzome, and ryse is pushing less than half that of ryse.

[Magicite]

and that is the most important?

[ABeastNamedTariq]

40K polygons on NPCs, right?

Anyway, who cares? It's friggin SHAPES.

And why are you comparing a third-person action game's main character to the NPCs of an FPS?

EDIT:

"My polygon count is higher than your polygon count! HA HA!"

That's how some of you sound.

[LackaJaKane]

@abeast

probably because that's the only info available? but if you know the poly count of killzone's main character(s), please enlighten us

and also

"And why are you comparing a third-person action game's main character to the NPCs of an FPS?"

*Reads comment, then thinks about the subject of the article*

****FACEPALM****

[ABeastNamedTariq]

@Lack

I'm saying the entire article is kinda pointless, ya know? Based on what I said above.

Why do we need the polygon count of a main character of a FPS, if you WON'T SEE the character? Exactly.

I admit though, to make my point clearer, I should've said, "why are we".

[LackaJaKane]

"Why do we need the polygon count of a main character of a FPS, if you WON'T SEE the character? Exactly."

Well then it look's like the only other option is to compare it to the npc's polycount. And yeah, since it's a fps maybe the npc's have a higher polycount than the main character

Maybe that's why the devs are talking about the npc's polycount, and not the main character's.

Make sense?

But anyway, I'm all out of bubbles

[BBBirdistheWord]

It appears you are right.

However that does not mean that KZsf won't be any good. I saw some KZsf gifs in a recent story where they compared the E3 build to the Gttv demo and the fog and lighting looks pretty good in that game. I am glad the PS4 fans have something to look forward to on launch, apart from Knack.

There is simply no denying that Ryse facial animations look stunning though. That much is clear. After all the talk of the XBO being underpowered, I am pleasantly surprised to witness the rumours debunked. In fact, the fact that we are comparing ryse, crysis and KZsf speaks volumes of the parity of next gen systems.

[Ezz2013]

wait .....what rumors ?!
xbox is indeed underpowered aganist ps4
that's a simple fact
ps4 having much powerful GPU and much better/faster Ram
prove that
wow, you guys still can't accept that FACT?!

and this is just Facial animations
not the overrall GFX
as the overrall GFX killzone beat it ....badly
KZSF latest build was beyond incredible

[abc1233]

This was back in May, if you've seen the latest videos you'd know they have significantly improved upon the build, wouldn't be surprised if the poly count has increased.

[HammadTheBeast]

They decreased the poly count in Ryse.

[abc1233]

I'm talking about Killzone Shadow Fall.

[123pol]

this doesnt mean shit when it comes to better looking game.. i heard Ryse is really stiff game. and this is because the graphics use to much resources and they must restrict movment and other stuff in the game just to have a desent framerate.

and the 80k triangle count is just for marius ( lead character ).. that could mean that the other characters in the game is 10k .. my point is you know nothing..

wait until the game comes out then make these meaningless statements

[arbitor365]

this whole polygon thing is very innocuous. Ryse does not, by any stretch of the imagination look twice as good as killzone with its character models

[Gozer]

I disagree. Ryse is easily the best looking next-gen title we have seen so far.

[Angels3785]

keep in mind he is wearing some special goggles from microsoft...

[B-radical]

Are you being sarcastic or not? Serious question

[rela82me]

I agree its certainly not 2x as good. However, it is definitely better. Shooters such on last gen however shouldn't look better than this. The environments in KZ looks for the most part better, but there are instances where I look at Crysis 2 and am like, why can't KZ do that now?

The problem is I think that Crytech is more experienced in graphic engineering. They also have a more established engine as well. What I do think that this shows that it doesn't matter the platform, it depends on the developer.

[Fishy Fingers]

Character models go to Ryse IMO.

[Computersaysno]

Crysis 3 for me. Not exactly 'face' but better head hair on the characters than Ryse, including better stubble where you can see individual stubble strands on the Crysis 3 first model.

Ryse is also only 900p, this is still a factor here, its doing less than what the other two games can do.

Nevertheless they all look pretty good, but the best animation seen in a current game is in Halo 4's cut scenes. Not as much model detail, but vastly superior animation (capture anyway) to most games.

Animation you can't see in static shots.

[sourav93]

If you're talking facial animation, then for current gen that title goes to L.A. Noire.

[Computersaysno]

Purely from a performance capture 'animation' standpoint LA Noire is very good but it sorely lacks the detailing and lighting across the models of these games or compared to Halo 4 cinematics.

But people here are only judging these shots based on model detail rather than actual animation- because they are just static shots as pointed out. Fairly bad quality static shots of Killzone IMO as well. The shots arent the greatest which doesnt help do the game any justice.

You can't tell more unless they are all seen better in motion.

Animation of these games remains to be seen.

[LoveSpuds]

I loved LA Noire but the mouths on that game were never quite right, they had an odd visual characteristic. Still a great looking game.

Halo was pretty impressive too, but Uncharted 2 & 3 and especially The Last Of Us nailed mocap better than anything else I have seen this gen.

[plaZeHD]

You're kidding right? Halo 4, really?
It goes either for GTA V or The Last Of US.
http://abload.de/img/joelma...

[Computersaysno]

Yes, Halo 4.

http://loadingreadyrun.com/...

GTA5's is average and The Last of Us is very good at many things but not exceptional at faces like Halo 4 is

[Lulz_Boat]

what about Dark Sorcerer???

Oh wait... it wins hands down over EVERYTHING.

[u got owned]

Dark Sorcerer is a tech demo. They are comparing actual games here.

[HammadTheBeast]

So was Beyond Two Souls tho....

[Sevir]

Do you know what Demo means? Ok... It's short for Demonstration! So if the Dark Sorcerer is Running on PS4 in real time that's representative and a full on demonstration of the hardwares capabilities and rendering capacity... Games and Tech Demo come from the same engine on the hardware so guess what!

The Dark Sorcerer = Game. Tech Demo or not it's a quantifiable representation of a game in progress. Have several seats _/

[Sm00thNinja]

Agreed.

Tech demo >>>> In-game

[GTgamer]

Quantum Dream games always look better than the tech demo so don't count out Dark Sorcerer yet.

[jamsam360]

Even though it was a frickin video! Grasping at straws are we?

[KwietStorm_BLM]

A video?

[HammadTheBeast]

Actually, in another video the devs dissected the whole set, each character, and changed the colors, physics etc.

It was basically a game without player interaction or AI.

[ABeastNamedTariq]

While it was amazing, it's only a tech demo.

[Sm00thNinja]

Ok flame bait aside. High polygon count or not. It's too close to say definitively, although I'm super impressed that Killzone is in the discussion. Day one for Shadowfall, if I had to call it though in motion Ryse's facial animations are eerily amazing

[Lovable]

Man do they look good. Just hope they are interesting too.

[josephayal]

KSF still looks better than any PC Game

[BBBirdistheWord]

KZsf is a great looking game. The fog and lighting has certainly impressed me. Ps4 owners are lucky to have this game.

However, to say that the game looks better than any PC game is stretching the truth just a little bit...

[ExCest]

*snicker*

If the game is anything like KZ3, then the faces will be static textures most of the time. Hopefully not but... hell.

[akurtz]

I didnt like this comparison, not all are direct feed/screenshot and theyre from trailers, not raw raw gameplay. Bleehh

[corvusmd]

Ryse looks the best out of the Console versions by far, much more detail and realistic looking...Crysis 3 on PC still looks ultimately the best no doubt (however I'd like to see them in motion...I'm fuzzy remembering how the facial animations looked on Crysis 3). In Motion Ryse looks amazing. KZ looks more "cartoony" than Ryse, but still looks great...it may have been a design choice since it's a FPS and focus on the characters (esp main character) isn't that important. KZ put more of it's resources into bright particle effects rather than character development. I'm really not sure as to why they put Deep down in the article...those screens were from a cutscene that was CG...all the other games were running on in-game engine (at least I assume KZ was there). Deep Down in game doesn't look nearly as impressive as the cg scenes which look amazing.

[Grave]

All look great, but the guys in Ryse do look a little constipated.

[u got owned]

lol! maybe he is...

[ExCest]

No time to shit in war.

[Grave]

hahaha. Ya the guy in the second pic looks like he's letting one go and the guy behind him is like "Wow, how long you been holding that one in!?"

[ExCest]

@^ Man, what's wrong with him? lol.

But anyways, that face is gorgeous (for Ryse). KSF kinda lacks detail and Crysis looks just green.

[JokesOnYou]

"No time to shit in war."

pfffft lol that was funny.....but that just means Crytek nailed the facial animation even more realisticly. Have you seen Spartacus? They always look constipated during fight scenes, I mean its an old Gladiator Rule if you don't make that ugly "I Got To Take A Dump Face" you just die quicker.

[HiddenMission]

Content creator compared bull shots of Crysis 3 and Ryse to screen caps of KZSF. How about let's try using bull shots of KZSF to see how they stack up now.

http://images.vg247.com/cur...

http://media1.gameinformer....

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[Rimfro]

I've played Crysis 3 with everything cranked up on PC, it looks that good. Those aren't bullshots. Killzone isn't in the same league graphically, at least not from what I've seen. But I'll find out first hand in 3.5 weeks.

[HeavenlySnipes]

I played Crysis 3 on medium low settings on PC and it still looked that good

Those aren't bullshots lol

Crysis 3 is the best looking game I've ever played

[HiddenMission]

You missed the point and the focus and yes those are pretty bull shots because I received them when they were 1st released to the press prior to release to the public. In the packet it outlined that they were a touched up work in progress shots ie bull shots.

[BallsEye]

lool those are in game screens of ryse and crysis...the bullshots are yours from KZ..posting wallpapers of renders as in-game? how desperate are you man? Btw, I've played crysis 3 on max on my pc and it looks that good. Ryse still wins here. Detail and animation is amazing!

[HiddenMission]

Really considering even MS has asked Crytek to finally show them what the game will actually look like on the XB1. I guess you missed that. Everytime the game has been shown off it's been running off a high end laptop that is supposed to demonstrate what their target for the game is. This is why the poly count was lowered and the shaders increased because it was too taxing on the console and achieved a close parody to their target renders.

I know the ones I put up were bull shots...that was the point if you are going to compare bull shots then all of the titles get the same treatment not just the ones that help your argument.

I understand that Crysis on PC can be beast but the images of KZSF do not accurately reflect the graphics of the game which I can confirm since I have played it.

That's all I'm trying to get across to you guys.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

Well Ryse easily takes this one, from what I've seen Ryse looks to be the best LOOKING next gen title so far, but looks are far from everything.

[fghtrer3fb5erg]

Ryse isnt open world so obviously it may look better cause it can put more polygons and pixels on a smaller map, this is what made uncharted look amazing for current gen, all you had to do was follow the shortcuts to get to this and that area of the game, in kz sf you run around in much bigger areas with enormous in depth.

[Cuzzo63]

Im pretty sure the next GoW and Uncharted will kill everything when they appear. Then we will have all the hate articles denying their beauty

[Sevir]

But that's the thing though is that most of what they showed off was from a CGI trailer. The game game may be pushing a higher poly count, but at less total pixels. Some of the Xbox fans here have cited KZ's Feb reveal and claim the game has stayed at that build...

But look who's texture quality and graphics improved on final devkits without the need drop resolutions and overclocks CPU and GPU. Crytek as sure to show 4 seconds of actual game play while permeating the story trailer with impressive cinematics, but nothing else.

simply put, 4x the texture quality in the final build means characters had more than the 40k polygons from February!

Just saying

[Doragabi89]

In my opinion, I think Killzone Shadow Fall looks the best

[Hufandpuf]

Ryses' facial animations look fantastic.

[Manic2014]

Killzone SF doesn't seem as good as ryse, deep down and crisis 3....

[WeaseL]

The ships in KZ look better than the chariots in Ryse

[mhunterjr]

Kill zone faces don't look to great in comparison, but I guess it doesn't matter much since most of the character wear helmets

[Xtremist]

Objectively speaking, the in-game character models of KZ:SF completely destroy the ones in Crysis3 both in heavy shading work and design wise.
I 'm very impressed with what i saw in the gamersyde trailler!
I have to admit that there is a new king and a new graphical benchmark in the fps genre and this is KZ:SF.

[CrossingEden]

Unlike Crysis 3, Killzone SF models have a lot of jaggies.
http://i0.wp.com/gearnuke.c...
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[ILive]

To be fair, that was just a bad screen cap of killzone. Why didn't you compare it to the other screen shot from the website. You seem to have picked the one to have suited your choice because if you actually viewed the trailer, the model of the girl looks really impressive.

[webeblazing]

well he could just compare it to the new kz trailer which crisis still destroys on every front. in every category crisis wins if your talking about gfx.

[fghtrer3fb5erg]

The difference here is that killzone sf is a semi open world game, it has more shizz on a bigger map than ryse and crysis3.

[ILive]

I know right. I think it is really impressive as to how far they've come from killzone 3. It still holds it own against the other games from my perspective. There is no denying, however, that the other games have much more detail in their character models. Im not trying to troll here, Im just not convinced that those pics of ryse are from in game graphics. It looks too good. They could be doing what naughty dog did with Last of us, where the character models for the cut scenes were much more detailed than the in-game one. The in-game character models do come close though.

[webeblazing]

crysis3 is a semi open world game. crisis use to be an open world game.

[LackaJaKane]

Next up

Infamous SS vs Quantum Break vs The Witcher3 facial tech

[DoubleM70]

From the Pictures that were presented I think Crysis 3 still holds the Crown.

[VoodooRob]

They all look amazing . Too bad Deep down is going to blow

[MorePowerOfGreen]

Ryse takes it even against tech demos, CGI and in engine cutscene assets that are not used in gameplay.

Photo real http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c... pic taken from changed camera angles for the cutscene. Ryse has high end looking PC graphics.

I think Quantum Break will top Ryse if it already hasn't, Then Halo 5 after Quantum Break, expect Halo 5 to look like this http://art-of-the-game.com/...
http://www.tldrgamer.com/wp...

Xbox on me! Charge! http://i.minus.com/iCCsxvI8...

[DrJones]

If Xbox One can do it, so can PS4. With some added detail.

[TechMech2]

This should shut up ps4 fanboys.

[Sevir]

But it doesn't though. Killzone:Shadow Fall looks better and at a higher resolution at that.

[TechMech2]

I'm saying that graphics aren't changing much between Xbox one and ps4.

[Sevir]

Too early for diminishing returns. There are difference are more on a technical level!

[Xsilver]

have you seen the KZSF trailer yeah ain't nobody shutting up game looks fun ashell.

[QuantumWake]

All of them look fantastic! But if I really had to go with just one, it would definitely be Ryse. That last trailer they released for Ryse was amazing!

[mysteryraz11]

crysis 3 looks the worst, ryse impresses me the most though, the guy infront on the ryse photo looks almost photo realistic, order1886 or dark sorcerer have the best ive seen though, and im gonna laugh when thats why deep down looks like when its finised

[arbitor365]

i fail to see that "twice as high polygon count" coming into play with ryse. they look about the same

and keep in mind that killzone shadowfall is a much more open game in terms of level design and scope. also its running at native 1080P.

[CGI-Quality]

I knew this topic would be derailed with an entire wealth of games not pertaining to this.

OT: All three look incredible. Can't call a definitive winner there, and it's just because how great they all look!

[TristanPR77]

Killzone looking pretty better than ryse.

[Pandamobile]

Are you blind?

[JasonKCK]

@TristanPR77... glasses, get some!

All I need now is MS and Crytek to bring this over to PC, since that is where my money is at.

[mysteryraz11]

ryse looks the best, kz sf looks good to and so does crysis 3, they all look good

[solidboss07]

Xbone games get a 'facial' from Sony games.

[TKCMuzzer]

Welcome to trailers guys, you see what they want you to see, I see one trailer with in game footage and one with plenty of cut scene footage. How a comparison can be drawn up baffles me.

(What im saying is, one game shows what you will actually see when playing the other shows you a lot of other things you won't see whilst actually playing)

[AnteCash]

The faces in bullshots of ryse look the best, guess the only good thing about the game....

[jonli1]

killzone graphic look last gen their nothing special with overrated junk of a game

[black0o]

kz is a FPS I only see faces before I knife it ..

[horndog]

Easy pickings. Ryse without a doubt. Why would they compare killzone for the ps3 to next gen games. At least put some killzone sf pics for the ps4 in there .

[theXtReMe1]

They all look great. Ryse seems to have the best skin, while Killzones eyes are the best. The eyes freak me out, and will definitely make me feel bad if we have to kill anything without a helmet of some sort. Very expressive and realistic looking. Not the dead eyes gamers have been used to for the past 20 years.

[Belking]

A screen shot doesn't mean jack.Ryse wins this easily. Those facial animations are the best out there right now.

[Nocando]

I often wonder what each company will push when realism becomes the standard, and at that point, what will fanboys argue about?

[Ninjamonkey82]

All Ryse does is show where the x1 bottlenecks and the shame is its not even a couple off years and the xbox one is already back pedaling. Everything promised has been cut back on in this game. Maybe developers hoping to much. Maybe PR getting a bit to excited either way it ends in people being disappointed. This game should have made a PC release aswell to reach its full potential imo.

[horndog]

How long have you been a developer for crytek? Or a dev for MS?? YOURE NOT?! Than stop trying to pretend like you know what yoi are talking about.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Mate its not even hard to work out lol. there running the game in 1600 res now instead off 1080 there's a reason for that. At 1080p they could not maintain a solid fps.

Be that 60-30fps. They needed to take a drop. Easy way to test for yourself 'yawn' is to get a decent PC that can run BF3 in 60+fps in 1080p and reduce the resolution and have a lock at the frame boost you get.

This is the same issue they ran into. But where as on the PC the said guy I'm talking about already have 60+ fps depending on his GFX card the guy on the console is looked to certain settings that the card that is standard for the lifetime off the console limits it to.

Hence this is not PC vs Console but an easy way for anyone without a clue to get a clue. Lower resolution = higher fps, lower polygon count = higher performance.

What would be a more interesting conversation would have been would the PlayStation 4 have put these limits on Crytek as well guess we have to wait for there first PS4 release to see.

Now if you want to pretend to be a developer your welcome lad ;).

[cyclindk]

As far as most "realistic" look:

I'd say

Crysis 3
Deep Down
Ryse
Killzone

Now how many polys each is pushing, resolution and all that, this is just my opinion on the "look."

And I am a fan of Killzone, impressed with SOME of the visuals in Crysis and smooth gameplay, Ryse and Deep Down are relatively unknowns for me apart from what I have seen in trailers and such.

Maybe it's screenshot selection, or something else, but that's my lineup from "most realistic" to "least."

[creepjack]

OK, this should be re-titled to "Let's see who's a Sony fanboy", because you people saying Killzone looks the best are full of crap and you all know it.

In these pics, Killzone literally looks last gen compared to all of the other games shown.

[JasonXS12]

You shouldn't really compare Crysis 3 and Ryse mainly due to the fact both are from Cryengine. The first face in Killzone looks pretty good but the second picture I'm not too sure. The eyes are nice but the overall face just looks a bit strange to me.

[ziggurcat]

It's between deep down, and ryse for me... Am not that impressed with KZ's or crysis 3's facial tech.

[FanboyKilla]

Ryse looks amazing. CANCELED MY P4 WEEKS AGO? X 1 THE TRUTH, THERE IT IS LOOK!

[gamer2013]

Killzone looks so good it makes me wanna fap!

[wishingW3L]

Crysis 3 > Ryse > Killzone, although to run Crysis 3 on ultra you need a PC more powerful than the PS4 and XB1 combined. And even though Ryse looks better than Killzone, Killzone is running at stable 30 frames and 1080p while Ryse is not only sub 1080p but according to previews it has pretty bad frame-rate, so Guerrilla's delivering a better balance. And not to mention that these are only first gen titles, it's only gonna get better from here. Killzone in particular is using only 14 CU on the PS4 instead of the 18 and no ALU either.

[lifeisgamesok]

Ryse latest build is 30fps with no issues

[wdb0207]

ryse. one of the reasons ill have the xbox.

[zbg31610]

Screenshots vs pictures taken from gameplay videos and such are not equal. Look, Ryse looks great, but these pics aren't really fair, I mean look,

KIllzone: http://media1.gameinformer....

http://videogame-art.com/wp...

Ryse: http://img.sex169.org/image...

Point made..

[Pandamobile]

You're compared high-quality character renders from KZ:SF to a screencap from a video...

You just refuted your own point, so congrats, I guess...

[zbg31610]

The point is pictures can be deceptive. Killzone looked better in those and Ryse looked better in the ones from the article. THAT IS THE POINT, did you hit your head? I am not trying to say Killzone is better looking. You could at least read my comment next time.

[Pandamobile]

All the screenshots used in the comparison are actual screenshots though. If you compare press renders to screen caps of videos like you were doing, that's hardly a comparison at all.

Screenshots are screenshots. As long as they're not rendered offline, they're valid for comparison.

[Pandamobile]

(I just realized that the KZ:SF pictures are screencaps from the trailer, my bad).

[Pandamobile]

Ryse and Crysis 3's characters are objectively better looking.

[zbg31610]

Because you are qualified to "objectively" make that claim...

[Pandamobile]

All you have to do is look at the screenshots. There's more texture detail and much richer shading going on in Crysis 3 and Ryse.

[Trekster_Gamer]

All 3 look great but Ryse has the edge..

[-Gespenst-]

All three look impressive, but are the games good? We already know Crysis 3 is not. Ryse is looking pretty mediocre and is being made by the same people who brought us Crysis 3 (see above). Killzone? Looks like another big, stupid, AAA, linear 5-10 hour murder fest. Not interested. Stop supporting this tripe.

[assdan]

Killzone is one of the most fun shooters out there. That's what it is. It's also stunning, and has tended to have very good campaigns. I have a lot of faith in that game. And you can't say much bad about deep down at this point.

[ATi_Elite]

It's safe to say that the CryEngine is just a BEAST!

I don't care what platform uses it, The CryEngine is a MONSTER.

[assdan]

All 4 look amazing. Ryse might have a little more realistic structure, but I can't get over the glistening of people's eyes in KZ, and other parts of there face. Then deep down does everything well.

[tubers]

Skin shader on Ryse blows KZ and Crysis:

http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

[SITH]

Ryse looks even more impressive when compared with other games. The lighting is spot on.

[lifeisgamesok]

Ryse has the best facial animation. The characters look so real

[Silly gameAr]

Seriously?

[rmw2hot]

Killzone is one of the only games where the graphics in singleplayer and multiplayer looks exactly the same. Ryse and crysis 3 multiplayer graphics are a huge downgrade from singleplayer.

[annus]

Ah yes, I take it you have put many hours into all three.

The fact that KZ MP runs at 60FPS instead of 30FPS means they have sacrificed something.

[1nsomniac]

Have to admit Ryse is starting to look pretty shexshy! - although I don't think its real-time.

And Although I don't even think those images are from KZ there's no doubt they're the worst of the 3 games listed. I see a lot of people in desperation trying to find excuses.

[LeoDDestroyer]

I feel that crysis and ryse are both even with killzone in last with these pics. I will say one thing to keep in mind at least with the skin tones is the helghast character. All of which have pale skin and when compare to something with a natural skin tone can be misleading.

I'm mostly speaking of the women char who I'm assuming is a helghast.

[Gamer666]

Deep Down > Ryse > Killzone > Crysis 3

And after saying that I declare the comparison a bad assessment. Things that affect how much devts can put into character models include game lighting, environment, and game genre...

They are comparing to FPS, to a hack n' slash, to an RPG... The ability to dedicate processing and GPU resources to characters is completely different in each genre.

[Rageanitus]

IMO RYSE on the 2nd photo looks the best.

Crysis 3 is this gen tech but not so distant since it recently came out.

KZ is in between those two.

[TomahawkX]

Ryse and KZ:SF are both representing next-gen. Both look great and this is only the beginning. Let the good times roll!

[LoveSpuds]

All this arguing is so pointless. They all look amazing but the differences in lighting etc make a fair comparison impossible.

However, to say that Crysis on PC doesnt come out on top is delusional - you would need a super expensive PS to achieve those results so its hardly a surprise.

For me its got to the point where graphics arent a consideration any more. Games generally look great regardless - albeit some don't run as well as they could.

What is more important to me is the art style and whether the game is any good.

[yay111]

KZ: Shadow Fall and Ryse can keep fighting over this, while Crysis 3 sits down and has a martini

[RedSoakedSponge]

id say its a pretty even match. people saying its obvious that one is better than the others is either a fanboy or is in need of an eye exam.

[purp13m0nk3y]

All three look very impressive. But to be totally honest you have to see facial animations in action to truly be able to judge properly.

I'll give the recent example that comes to mind. A mate and I were discussing Mass Effect 3 graphics the other day and he mentioned how impressed he was with the faces (texture details mainly) my argument was that the actual animation and expressions were very disappointing. The characters look like robots.

I fired up Uncharted 3 and TLOU for him to compare and he was blown away (he only games on xbox 360) He couldn't believe how realistic the expressions were. How you could read so much from a simple arched eyebrow, or slight curving of the lips.

That is where the true magic of facial animation lies. IMO there are very few games that pull off truly believable characters that almost seem like a real person.

I know I'll probably get torn to shreds but honestly I'm yet to see anything "next gen" that rival naughty dogs mo-cap facial animation techniques that they used in UC3 and TLOU.

[Max-Zorin]

All three look great. Now shut up.

[solidboss07]

We really need to wait for awhile before any of us, PS'ers or XB'ers, get a feel for next-gen tech such as seemingly expressive characters faces and all of the little intricities that convey realism.
While PS3 launch game Resistance FOM can hardly be held up as anything special, over all it was a competent and enjoyable game. One thing I remember from Resistance was how NPC's eyes would follow you around, they were creepily realistic, and it was a great thing to have them watch your every move when not engaging alien scum in battle.
Lots of next-gen games will have nice little features that all add up.

[digitalkid]

Ryse, no doubdt looks way better.
Order and Wizard are too far from release.

[Xenomorph]

I think if you want a better comparison of killzone, you should look at the models for the helghast.

[Hemp]

I think BF4 face expression lookin good too. theyre definitly on par.

[strickers]

Ryse has better facial tech that Killzone. In most other graphics areas Killzone is superior.

[CyrusLemont]

Pfft, facial tech peaked with Halo Combat Evolved on Xbox, see: http://www.xboxer360.com/wp...

Jokes aside, all three titles look amazing and it can only get better from here. PC/PS4/X1 era is dawning, can't be more excited than I already am!

[gamer7804]

ryse and crysis looks really good, but is it just me or does something seem "off" about KZ Shadowfall, i can't put my finger on it.

[BLAKHOODe]

I'm kinda torn between Ryse and Killzone. The girl looks great in the Killzone pic, but not so much the guy. With Ryse, I think the helmet in the second pic is throwing me off a bit, but the facial features still look really good.

We really won't know how they compare until we see them actually animated.

[Wh15ky]

"We compare Killzone Shadow Fall, Ryse and Crysis 3 to see how far the facial tech has evolved for games"

How is comparing those games going to show how far facial tech has evolved?

Surely comparing KZ SF to KZ 2 and 3 is a better way to do that.

[e-p-ayeaH]

Next gen is gonna be amazing hot damm!

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Who approved this flame-bait?

[EditorAtGNG]

At least there's a protagonist who isn't bald (Ryse) or has a mask/helmet/whatever. I can understand animating hair and making it feel real is tough and can take loads of resources but damn... this is next gen, bring it on, dammit.

[saber00005]

Lol, I suggest NOT reading the comments. There's a HUGE flame ware going on in that website lol.

[pete007]

1st......ryse
2nd......crysis
3rd......deepdown
4th......killzone

Why?
ryse looks allmost cinematic, crysis is..........crysis,
deep down only third because killzone´s faces look great but keep reminding us of a game more than anyother here

[Emilio_Estevez]

I wonder if anyone is going to use the LA Noire tech this coming gen, could be very impressive.

Not a tech guy, can't declare a winner, they all look excellent.

[Tzuno]

To make a top

nr.1 Crysis
nr.2 Ryse
nr.3 Killzone

[iRobotGaming]

I'm definately getting Killzone

[whome]

I wonder what Don Mattrick's face looks like right now.

[Darrevilen]

I don't really care what game they compare Killzone Shadow Fall to graphically. Killzone had always been so beautiful for me.