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Android Handheld’s And Console’s Will Upset Traditional Consoles’s And Handheld’s Futures

Handheld Lover lists reasons why traditional Handhelds and Consoles have a massive war against an enemy attacking on all fronts.

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teflontactics3851d ago

Nobody who actually games cares much about Android/iOS gaming. Gaming on tablets and smartphones is mediocre due to a lack of input options - and what good games do make their way to the platform are few and far between.

Dedicated gaming consoles will never be replaced by Android/iOS; it's more likely that phones and tablets will be replaced by proper micro PCs - which then replace consoles.

Other than that, I don't see them going anywhere.

Bolts3851d ago

Nobody saw the iPhone going anywhere. Nobody saw the tablets going anywhere. Everyone assumed the world will be dominated by desktop PC, notebooks, and consoles.

Yet here we are in a world dominated by mobile devices. Regardless what replaces what is irrelevant. The desktop and the console as we know it are living on bored time.

bigboirock3850d ago

im not going to take my desktop all around with me so i can call someone almost everyone need a phone of some sort

teflontactics3850d ago

If you really think phones are going to stick around you're crazy. In a few years time most conversations will be either video chat or on a service such as Skype. Phones will be obsolete when you can Skype someone on a better portable device over wifi/4G ubiquitously - people are moving that way now.

"Smartphones" are a lot less phone and a lot more internet devices these days - I haven't had a phone conversation in over a year.

jeffgoldwin3850d ago

@Teflon

I only half agree with you and I think the android sales backup what Im saying. I agree if Im at home sitting in the recliner, android gaming in no way compares with console/pc gaming.

However, Im not at home 100% of the time. So while on the go (work, getting dragged along by wife to go shopping, w/e), portable gaming is a no brainer for a quick fix.

teflontactics3850d ago

That's what a PSVita is for. Playing Angry Birds is hardly gaming - I'll be playing Killzone Mercenary in line and laughing at you.

jeffgoldwin3849d ago (Edited 3849d ago )

I don't want to spend $200 for a psvita and than $30-40 a game just to play for 5-10min occationaly. I also don't want to carry that around when my smartphone already serves that purpose.

Obviously vita games are gunna be better, but for me when Im on the go, surfing the web and light gaming serves my purpose just fine.

ALso Nova 3, Modern Combat, and a couple other fps games are on par with Killzone when you combine it with a Moga controller.

teflontactics3849d ago

Oh? So you don't have a Vita and haven't played Killzone Mercenary, but claim some random phone game is better? Good luck with that - I'm laughing just picturing you whipping out that Moga controller and trying to play those games in line.

What a ridiculous comment, Jeff. You're no gamer playing 5 minutes at a time - you're a time waster.

jeffgoldwin3849d ago

"Obviously vita games are gunna be better"
" a couple other fps games are on par with Killzone'

Learn to read please before going emo. On par doesn't mean its better.

" I agree if Im at home sitting in the recliner, android gaming in no way compares with console/pc gaming."

Im sorry but your really stupid at every turn of this thread. Your just embarassing yourself now. Just stop typing.

teflontactics3849d ago

Haha.

Ad hominem.

Enough said.

hellvaguy3848d ago

@telf

Thats not ad hominem at all. Jeff used direct quotes to pretty much disprove everything you said. You are either really stubborn about being wrong or just dumb. Either way, thats not a good place to be.

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Funantic13851d ago

I hate say it but the article is right. We hardcore gamers are not the majority. Most gamers are casual players who are happy with simple cheap games. As far as sales neither Xbox or Playstation can compete with Android. If people can buy an tv hookup device that can play every game they've already bought on their phone then it'll really dig into the big two's pockets. Mobile games already have the vitas on a respirator.

Elronza3850d ago (Edited 3850d ago )

Hello friend I Elronza am Handheld Lover. And the situation is even worse now thanks to Nvidia enabling even us hardcore gamers to play full PC titles away from home using the Nvidia Shield which I own. And I think we are forgetting the article is also addressing how Android as an operating system allows for us hardcore gamers to be catered to as well. With games like Dead Trigger and soon to be released Dead Trigger 2 not to mention Modern Combat 4 and The Conduit HD as just a few of the many examples of us hardcore gamers being able to get our gaming on using Android. And Gaming Tablets have full Console controls just look at the Wikipad,my Nvidia Shield and the diverse Gaming Tablets from JXD like the JXD S7800. Things have gotten far worse for consoles as I have proof that Nvidia and Valve/Steam have reached an agreement to where the Nvidia Shield will be given native Steam Support meaning the Nvidia Shield will allow you to play full PC titles anywhere you have a WiFi connection or can Tether to your 4G Smartphone. Also the Nvidia Shield is going to be given native 1080p Video output support and will be able to stream PC games at 60 fps come 10-28-13 I'm providing proof of all that I have stated in links below for all to see that consoles truly are on their last legs! http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://i.imgur.com/UbnwGnI.... http://blogs.nvidia.com/blo... http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Hicken3850d ago

The majority of PC games that are exclusive to PC are better with kb/m support than a traditional controller setup, meaning the Shield isn't well suited for them.

Not only that, but it won't have its own dedicated library, since it's something like a streaming receptacle for games from elsewhere. I didn't read anything about the memory being expandable, meaning you're extremely limited in what you can take with you.

One more thing: it's barely portable. Even the Vita can fit in your pocket, but this thing isn't fitting in anything other than a backpack. That diminishes the portability argument, which is a huge part of being a handheld. The wikipad has the same flaws.

Shield is a niche product within an already niche market. It won't have the games people buy handhelds for, and it won't have the controls people prefer for PC games. Due to all this, it's not gonna find nearly the market you think it will.

nevin13851d ago

Traditional games could get expensive to support.

Casual audience will always outweigh core gamer

Both casual and core own smartphones

Playstation mobile

Indie

we'll see as this gen starts next month.

jeeves863851d ago

There are too many apostrophes here....

There will always be a niche market for full-fledged, powerful consoles. Even handhelds have their enthusiasts. I do however believe that mobile gaming takes quite a sizable chunk out of the casual market. People who might have bought a less-expensive or last-gen console might instead switch to mobile gaming.

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No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

-Foxtrot7h ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic18816h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z6h ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after supporting No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it. They can do it but some people just decide not to.

thorstein7h ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

Hugodastrevas5h ago

I'd say it's THE definitive comeback story

TheGamingHounds4h ago

Final Fantasy 14 takes that one imho

jwillj2k45h ago

Oh great another story about the cleanest shirt in a bin of dirty laundry.

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The Holy Gosh Darn: Ozan Drøsdal Talks Dialogue Skipping Mechanics And Why He Hates The Word Quirky

Ozan Drøsdal tells TheGamer about The Holy Gosh Darn, the final part of the Tuesday Trilogy.

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Hollow Knight: Silksong's Follow-Up to Grubs is a Logical Progression

Hollow Knight: Silksong’s new collectible that succeeds the popular Grubs has the potential to deepen the mysteries of the new world.

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