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Games on Xbox One – Better with Xbox Live Compute

Xbox One will benefit greatly from the power of the Xbox Live cloud. This obviously represents a broad Microsoft commitment that spans a number of scenarios, all intended to bring the best of entertainment and gaming experiences that our game creators have to offer. Xbox Live Compute represents one of the ways that games will be better on Xbox One. This service is specifically designed to enable game creators to utilize the scalable computing resources that Microsoft deploys within our regional datacenters, to enhance their game experiences beyond what is generally possible with the finite resources of a console. This sounds great, but what does it really mean for gamers and developers?

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jackanderson19854270d ago

at least they've finally launched into some explanation as to what it's all about... not too excited about playing with my friend even if they're not online, that just sounds uber depressing

Mr Pumblechook4270d ago

So what Microsoft PR want gamers to know is that it doesn't matter if the PS4 specs are more powerful, the magical power of 'dat cloud' makes the Xbone better!

jackanderson19854270d ago

no the lead program manager has explained the potential benefits of Xbox Live and the Azure system. If they nail it then it'll be a huge benefit to users of the Xbox One. If not, the fact they're given dedicated servers to devs for free is a huge benefit.

If you've an issue with the xbox one why go onto their related news and crap all over it.

and before you launch into me as a fanboy, I've never been one... what's the point in limiting yourself to one console when each one has different exclusives that appeal to you.. i got the wii u for it's games and i'm enjoying it till the X1 and the PS4 come out

mcstorm4270d ago

@Mr Pumblechook since when has more power = better console? Also going by what you said you owned a Xbox and a N64 over the PS2 and PSX? o no thought you did not.

Infamous2984270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

@mcstorm Sony has the most powerful console and the most talented developers by their side example: ND,SSM,QD,MM, japan studio etc..

lol at the disagrees, all i am saying is a fact, why dont you like to hear it?

malokevi4270d ago

What MS wants gamers and developers to know is that they have gone to great lengths and invested in all avenues, from console to input to remote processing to services... and that their console is going to kick fugin arse.

That's all I need to know.

nukeitall4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

@Pumblechook:

Doesn't matter what specs on the PS4 is better, if you got lagging up the wazoo cause KillZone is on essentially P2P.

Point being, the cloud is real, it is here and it is coming to Xbox One. We are already starting to see the massive benefits coming to games.

We already know what we are getting, we just don't know what doors will open up soon, but so far Titanfalls is one of them.

@Infamous-assassin:

Sony does have great developers, but it doesn't help when my game is lagging out due to P2P connection.

Point being, why can't we accept that both consoles are great, and just enjoy it instead of bashing each other.

This is an article about Xbox One so let's leave it at that. We don't have to talk about the PS4, because it is about the Xbox One!

LordDhampire4270d ago

@Jackanderson195

Please do not miss interpret this article, they stated that cloud computing is free...not dedicated servers....

Its just PR mumbo jumbo to miss lead consumers.

Cloud computing is like the environments and AI, and weather effects they have stated the cloud can be used for...or updates and such. Stuff to improve games to make them better and compete against the ps4.

Dedicated servers for multiplayer will not be free, they will be availible for a fee to developers

if you would like read this article

http://www.oxm.co.uk/63335/...

gaffyh4270d ago

So...reading through this press release, the only viable thing is dedicated servers, and drivatars, which is essentially the same as uploading a ghost, and someone else downloading it, albeit done automatically. The "rendering" bullet point, is at the moment, complete BS, because you cannot render things faster in the cloud when your internet speed is a POS. You may be able to off load some minor things, but stuff in the immediate vicinity in a game will have to be done by the console itself.

Also, MS, please test the cloud on Folding@Home, I would genuinely like to see how much folds it can do. If it is as good as it is made out, it should be able to cure cancer in seconds.

GameNameFame4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

Why cloud does not improve graphics
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

And btw, Sony has clouds too. Gaikai and Openstack. Ofc, Sony does not lie to you and tell you it magically improves graphics.

Clouds has its uses, but it is not magic graphics.

Btw, if what they said was true, most X1 exclusive wont struggle to meet 1080P. I mean they got Crytek on board and they cant make it happen...

JokesOnYou4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

These are some pretty exciting key points Microsoft makes:

"We realized that there was an incredible opportunity to bring together the resources and global scale of Windows Azure, with the game services of Xbox Live to build a cloud computing platform that was uniquely focused on gaming and game creators."

"In fact, we even give them the cloud computing power for FREE so they can more easily transition to building games on Xbox One for the cloud."

"However, in this generation, we really want to help game creators draw on the ever-expanding power of our server infrastructure to drive continuous innovation in their game experiences – innovations that translate directly to better, more engaging gaming experiences."

"Higher fidelity game experiences –
As I mentioned before, cloud compute can enable developers to offload computations for all sorts of environmental elements."

"Improved multiplayer game experiences-
A great example of a game that is using Xbox Live Compute for their dedicated server multiplayer experience is “Titanfall.”

"Adaptive & evolving game play-
Xbox Live Compute, they can be dynamically updated, tuned, changed, and improved continuously. Games will evolve and live on for greater periods of time, continually providing fresh content and new experiences. The flagship example of this application of cloud computing can be found with “Forza Motorsports 5, “and its Drivatar system."

"On-demand compute improves game availability-
This ensures that games meet the changing demands of their player communities for compute, and gamers experience optimal connectivity based upon their geographic location."

"We expect that this platform will help our development community build more of their games as services – games that are intelligent, immersive and continuously evolving experiences for the players – powered by Microsoft’s ever-expanding cloud infrastructure. This is only the beginning though." 

-Wow micro weren't kidding about their use of cloud computing for gaming, its nice to hear more details about their future plans to implement cloud computing. If it all works well in practical games like Forza5, Azure/Cloud computing will only become more common on X1 and just might be the innovative game changer micro thinks it is. We'll see. I appreciate their efforts in this space either way.

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patsrule3164270d ago

I actually think it sounds pretty cool. Not cool enough to make me go with XB1 over PS4, but cool enough that I would be happy if PS4 added that fuctionality.

infectedaztec4270d ago

There is no hope of that. MS has a huge business in providing servers to companies (them and oracle are world leaders in this field). They are allowing xbox to tap into that to improve it.

Sony can't offer these benefits because they don't have the infrastructure or expertise in place. Thats no slight to Sony, they are great at making hardware, but software and online capacity is microsoft's area.

Infamous2984270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

@nukeitall Sony always used dedicated servers in many of their exclusives. btw, Killzone SF will have dedicated servers.

nukeitall4269d ago (Edited 4269d ago )

KillZone SF has dedicated proxy server. Everything else is P2P.

So no, it doesn't have dedicated server to process game logic or any of the benefits that come with it.

All KZ is have a server forward some of your traffic to another PS4. That is not a dedicated server, it is a dedicated proxy server!

Sorry you were fooled by Sony.

BBBirdistheWord4269d ago (Edited 4269d ago )

@ infamous

Not quite.
Although dedicated servers are involved, these will not be used to host the game.

http://n4g.com/news/1363693...

Quote from the article
"Boltjes confirmed that Shadow Fall will have dedicated servers. However, the servers will only act as a hub between different game clients and any game logic will not be hosted on the servers. “Almost all logic relating to you (e.g. moving, shooting and taking damage) runs on your local PS4,” stated Boltjes, “with only a very small portion of the game logic (i.e. mission/scoring logic) running on the ‘session master’, one PS4 in the game selected for its connection quality.”

Essentially this means the multiplayer logic is hosted on the best available ps4 of the network at the time.
This also means the 'hosting'ps4 will need to render its own graphics, its own gameplay workload and also the demands of the multiplayer logic for all players involved.
A big ask, if you ask me.

I hope that has cleared it up.

n4rc4270d ago

Cool... Awesome to see direct from ms that these servers come free to devs. You'd be stupid not to use it..

Kayant4270d ago

"You'd be stupid not to use it as long as it's in MP ". Fixed.

I don't think servers are free because respawn devs say otherwise there are just heavily discounted. Am guessing using compute stuff is free but dedicated servers are discounted.

"Most importantly to us, Microsoft priced it so that it’s far more affordable than other hosting options – their goal here is to get more awesome games, not to nickel-and-dime developers."

http://www.respawn.com/news...

vallencer4270d ago

In all fairness that could mean they're free if it's the most affordable option.

n4rc4270d ago

Well that's all I was referring to..

And I'm not against using it for single player. I'm all in for an online only future..

Everyone I know is online.. Even grandparents! Lol.. And so is seemingly everyone that was against it..

tigertom534270d ago

I love the way the new xbox starts up and that you can it uses your name.. :)

Hercules1894270d ago

Well they finally said that the cloud can improve on graphics as well, now we wait for sony fans to respond

PR_FROM_OHIO4270d ago

Sony fans don't have to respond bc you do realize that the cloud will help the PS4's graphics to bc SONY has it's own cloud service as well right??

Kayant4270d ago

@thrust

No but servers are not exclusive to XB1 :p

thrust4270d ago

But they are not used by the ps4.

that's all i said!

n4rc4270d ago

Well when I've seen reports that azure is over a million servers worldwide now.. I don't think it unreasonable to assume when they say 300k they are referring to what is allocated to Xbox live..

And come on with the comparisons to gaikai.. Why even bring it up in here? But since you did, Gaikai streams old games.. That's what it does.. It was also bought for about 1/3 of what ms spent to upgrade one datacenter.. Its apples and oranges.

FrigidDARKNESS4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

Sony's Galkai servers are set up for streaming only. It won't do any of the stuff as MS cloud service. Sony said Galkai was cloud to keep pace with Ms.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

MS is investing 2.7 billion in a Dutch data company for a new cloud infrastructure service in Europe.
http://www.wpcentral.com/mi...

GiggMan4270d ago

@thrust, all Sony has to do is purchase some copies of Windows Server 2012 and set up a bunch of virtual severs and run Hyper V just like MS is doing.

What people don't realize is that is all the "cloud" is lol. It's not exclusive to anyone...

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Pancit_Canton4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

Well compare to Xbone. PS4 doesn't need help from the "Mighty O'le Cloud" to produce next gen graphics and such. Raw processing power and GDDR 5 are enough to do that.

infectedaztec4270d ago

that sounded pretty insecure - nobody (well maybe you will) can deny that this cloud service will greatly enhance the product.

After reading the article I realised the cloud can offer even more than I hoped. I wanted an xbox but I never thought I was getting value for money....this has changed my mind

joeyisback4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

Sony announced there cloud support for PS4 before xbone also we had cloud saves before the 360 on PS3 Sony hasn't announced all of there cloud details besides being able to stream PS1 PS2 PS3 PS4 games in early 2014 also play PS4 games on the go with the PS VITA its require except games who use PS MOVE PS4 the better system

Strikepackage Bravo4270d ago

Sony has nothing like Azure, what Sony has is a streaming service, that is FAR less sophisticated than the actual cloud computing that Azure does. Only a few companies in the world have what Azure does, and Sony is certainly not one of them.

Volkama4270d ago

Sony have announced streaming of games in the US only. Their infrastructure cannot support other regions yet.

Microsoft are clearly a long way ahead in terms of infrastructure, so it makes sense for them to try and leverage the tech more so than Sony. That's unlikely to change any time soon.

We've yet to see if it's a significant advantage though. MS need to pull out some games to prove it.

Kayant4270d ago (Edited 4270d ago )

@n4rc

Not completely true. Some of gaikai's tech is powering the PSN network - Remote play, Play as you download, talking over someone's game and maybe even general PSN servers are powered by gaikai this was said in the PS4 reveal. There's also the misery into what they parnetship with open stack is for. We do know it's for "cloud" stuff.

But yes Sony don't have a set of servers they can readily make available to devs for compute like MS have but it doesn't mean it's not possible on PS4.

@Volkama

This. Well said.

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Ragnaarock4270d ago

Penello himself listed cloud compute under "intangibles".

in·tan·gi·ble
adj.
1. Incapable of being perceived by the senses.
2. Incapable of being realized or defined.
3. Incorporeal.

Thank you for clarifying Mr. Penello.

jackanderson19854270d ago

that's the adjective... think he was more referring to the noun part of the word;

n.
1. Something intangible, especially an asset that cannot be perceived by the senses. Often used in the plural: intangibles such as goodwill and dedication.
2. Law Incorporeal property such as bank deposits, stocks, bonds, and promissory notes. Often used in the plural: a state tax on intangibles.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK4d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM4d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif3d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer3d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin3d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer22h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer3d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM3d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused4d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher4d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning774d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay4d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain23d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198122d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK22d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts22d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK22d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT25d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits25d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel124d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic24d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN24d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel123d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica24d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14924d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga24d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania25d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts25d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7724d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box24d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7724d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts24d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7724d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb24d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow25d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box24d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor24d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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