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You'll never find out how Killzone 3 ends. Shadow Fall dev on reboots & leaving cliffhangers hanging

OPM: I had a great chat with Killzone Shadow Fall‘s lead designer Eric Boltjes at this year’s Eurogamer Expo. There’ll be more later on the tech and other areas of Guerilla Game‘s next instalment but first here we are chatting about the story, rebooting the series for PS4 and how Killzone 3′s cliffhanger sting will never be resolved.

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iamnsuperman4275d ago

Make sense to reboot it in a way. It would be a very difficult game to write for with the ending Killzone 3 had

-Foxtrot4275d ago

Not really, they could explain how the guy in the pod will cause conflict in the future (30 years on) to avenge the Helghast empire. Slowly plotting away untill the time is right. I mean after the end of KZ3 it's going to take a while for them to regroup and put forth a new plan

iamnsuperman4275d ago (Edited 4275d ago )

Spoiler.......

True but there is only one way they could really go with that as nearly all of Helghan was wiped out. Then you have to avoid the story getting boring (i.e. too many flashbacks. 30 years is a long time ). We know the Helghan were evacuated by the ISA so how likely is it a huge important figure made it. It is a bit too convenient (which isn't good for a story). For me they backed themselves into a corner with that ending and such needed to have a fresh go over.

Joe9134275d ago

I also believe the person coming out the pod will be the leader of the black hand and causing the problems on vetka that will explain the KZ3 ending it has to be cause to end KZ3 like that then never address it in any way don't make sense why not do a full reboot if you going to ignore the ending of KZ3 IMO cliffhangers are only good if you at some point explain it.

MizTv4272d ago

I really want to know who that was in the pod at the end of kz3

Nitrowolf24275d ago (Edited 4275d ago )

It just feels like a huge let-down TBH.

They might just be trolling us, but come on I know KZ3 story wasn't exactly top-notch or anything but to answer he ending here could easily explain why there is a wall on Vetka now.

I understand it would be hard to explain way a dead character would be back or something, but still.

He does say that the ending portion isn;'t directly explain, which probably means it is just we are gonna have to look away from the main narration.

-Foxtrot4275d ago

I always assumed the guy coming out the pod would be why there is a wall on Vetka now. I mean it could be there because ISA won after KZ3 but even then the guy in the pod could of been the person to unite the Helghast again and take revenge. I mean thats what I assumed straight away when I saw it was set 30 years after....they've regrouped and plotted away.

This has to be answered....I hope fans complain if we complain enough maybe they will do a DLC or something or even explain it in the next game. I'm guessing it's too late now to put it in the main game.

The way the guy talks about it though and his response...it's like he couldn't give a s*** :|

With what you said below to me

"Like you said, what kind of reboot is this if it takes place 30 years after. I guess you can say it's a reboot with the time frame, but still."

If it was totally rebooted like instead of war in the first game they tried to live in peace (until now) then fair enough. It could of been an alternate timeline but it isn't, the events in Killzone 1-3 shaped the world during those 30 years so the guy has to be revealed.

SaffronCurse4275d ago

They could of had a mini flashback explaining what the hell happened. Not that hard to do.

Majin-vegeta4275d ago

No no no no I wanted to find out who was in the pod :(.

-Foxtrot4275d ago (Edited 4275d ago )

I know right...WHAT THE F***

It's the main reason why I've been so excited about the next Killzone game, it's the number one question after Killzone 3.

You don't do a story related plot point like that and leave it hanging. Imagine if Valve did that with HL3, you would be furious

What a bunch of A-holes...it's not a reboot if it's in the same universe. That to me is a silly excuse to get out of the unresolved ending. The whole point of a reboot is to "RE-BOOT" everything. Story, characters, plot points...the games UNIVERSE.

Nitrowolf24275d ago

ikr

I have a feeling it will be explained away from the main narration. TBH I wouldn't even mind if (the guy in the Pod) was some sort of fairy tale/legend story that the Helghans told amongst each other, just to give their nation some hope. IDK, it was a horrible ending but it needs to be cleaned up and explained.

Like you said, what kind of reboot is this if it takes place 30 years after. I guess you can say it's a reboot with the time frame, but still.

hardcorehippiez4274d ago

my guess is it was visari the one that was killed was a double . hope we do find out if not this game then the next. i would hate to never find out who it was.

sandman2244275d ago

I'm sure it will be fine once we get our copies of shadow fall.

sigfredod4275d ago

I think they are trolling us, pretty sure this ending will be resolved on the future, all of us killzone fans want to know what give os say Visari to his daughter before the speech and who was on the pod

LOGICWINS4275d ago

Im sure if we protest enough we'll get those questions answered in the next Killzone Vita.

LEOPARD10304275d ago (Edited 4275d ago )

Killzone 3 has a bad story and its ending was a huge mistake from GG.

"Sev: How many people were down here?"

Millions moron, you killed millions of innocent people, worst ending in any game and the main characters are stupid and boring ( rico, narville, sthal), a game to forget.

I hope a better story and MP in Shadow Fall.

MrUndrhill4275d ago (Edited 4275d ago )

I love KZ3 (and 2) but I think it is a huge problem in gaming..great set pieces and design...novice story and character. Killzone had a lot of promise always, but it just never really hit any marks on the story front. I also think adding in another foe, something like the flood in Halo, would have also helped with diversity. All blue vs red gets a bit tired.

Regardless, my favourite PS3 shooter and I can't wait for Shadowfall.

LEOPARD10304275d ago

Sure ,new factions, enemies or races would be great !

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15 Last-Gen Games That Still Compete with Current-Gen Graphics

GB: "Say what you will about the state of the industry, but even as games evolve, their graphics remain a key aspect. Even some of the biggest flops this year sport some gorgeous visuals, as publishers and developers push the boundaries of what’s possible, pouring years of time and money into their work."

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darthv72240d ago

Quantum Break and Ryse are two that I was really surprised did not get an FPS boost option when played on the Series X|S. when i started playing both on the XBO, I thought they are both good, but after playing them also on my steam deck (in 60fps) I just cant go back and play the base games on XB. They really benefit from that faster frame rate.

Driveclub is another i wished had a HFR mode on PS5.

MatrixxGT240d ago

Most games this gen are the exact same except now we get faster loading through SSD and a res and fps bump. Graphically not much has improved, hell most last gen games are being relabeled and resold as “remastered” with the aforementioned updates.
I haven’t seen or played anything on either platform that couldn’t be run on last gen. Guess the law of diminishing returns is really showing itself these days.

127maXimus240d ago

Most games from 20 years ago are basically the same as today, with resolution and fps upgrades. The AI is still just as braindead as it always has been, worlds are full of static, boring characters that do the same thing over and over.

Demetrius240d ago

Smh another reason why graphics haven't improved that much is because most devs too caught up on cross gen. Ps4 was/still a dope console but time has moved on we're halfway close to a ps6 reveal and devs still will be making games on last gen in 2025. Then theres Microsoft purposely got the Xbox series s that causes more devs to try to pull strings as much as they can smh. It's a mixed bag of stuff, the only ones I see pushing hardware is sonys studios and even some indie games look better

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman248d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro247d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken247d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown247d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72247d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken247d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya247d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast247d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood247d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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Killzone After a Decade in Hibernation

It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.

Obscure_Observer590d ago

Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.

Vengeance1138590d ago

lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.

Cacabunga590d ago

With the downfall of COD and BF, Killzone def. has a chance to make a groundbreaking comeback

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Notellin590d ago (Edited 590d ago )

What a low-functioning reply here typical of the fanboy N4G community.

Rimeskeem590d ago

“Dumped”

I think it’s called moving on.

Barlos590d ago (Edited 590d ago )

They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.

I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.

1Victor590d ago

@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”

Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.

ChasterMies590d ago

“Sadly”?

The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.

Shane Kim589d ago

True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.

Mr_cheese590d ago

Dumped and shelved are two different things

Tacoboto590d ago

And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.

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GoodGuy09590d ago

I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.

Flawlessmic590d ago

Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.

Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.

blackbeld590d ago

To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.

Rynxie590d ago

And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.

Lightning77590d ago

I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.

Sharky231589d ago

@Lightning77

I think WarHawk would have been a great Live service game.

thorstein590d ago

Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.

I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.

P_Bomb590d ago

It’s been a decade? Now I’m sad.

LiViNgLeGaCY589d ago

I hear ya bud. We're due for a revival.

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