GTA IV Version Wars: Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3

Grand Theft Auto IV is undoubtedly the most highly anticipated and massively hyped multiplatform release of 2008. With April 29th just around the corner, gamers are salivating in anticipation of getting to cause massive amounts of chaos alone and with friends in Liberty City. While gamers agree that this game is most likely going to kick insane amounts of ass on both consoles, people who own both a Xbox 360 and a Playstation 3 are going to have to make a tough decision. Are they going to buy GTA IV on the 360 or the PS3? Despite the fact that Rockstar officially stated that both versions will look and run identically, The Exploding Barrel's own Jeremy and David tackle the issue for gamers everywhere. Jeremy is here to explain why the Xbox 360 is the only console gamers should consider for GTA IV, and David tackles why the PS3 wins the day.

[Drekken]

ok I have never heard of these guys... BUT whats up?? PS3 is or isnt getting split screen? This article says it does.

This is a HUGE advantage for PS3 if so

[pricklypete]

This issue on split screen is very hush hush if it is in fact an option for ps3.

Once a site like 1up, IGN or if gametrailers host it then we will know.

lol, note how i didn't put gamespot.

After realizing the anti-PS3 attitudes they shared i stopped caring. Then i saw the Condemned video review. That was the last time i'm ever clicking a gamespot link...again

[Drekken]

seriously good news if it does.

[NO_PUDding]

Me too...

Starngely, all their most popualr games seem to be on PS3 though. As in user orientated populairty.

Anyway, I am not sure abotu this split screen. Eitehr way it's a PS3 buy for me.

[sonarus]

The guy who started the split screen rumor said it has been removed. Whether split screen made it in or not is unknown as of yet but i personally doubt it. But hey i'm a pessimist :|

[MikeGdaGod]

if the PS3 has split-screen, that will be huge.

especially since dlc is coming to both consoles.

[Fallen_Angel]

pricklypete @ if you want an unbiased opunion from a site you need to cross off 1up and ign off that list cause both (more so 1up) huge ps3fanboy sites.

I honestly dont think split screen will matter. Not many people play games that way anymore most play over psn and xbl. I'd dont even know what split screen be used for cause they game isnt a co op game. They do have some mp modes that I think are some what co op but they are online only so far as we know.

[Robearboy]

i hate split screen, everything is small, scrunched up and not worth ruining what little eye sight i have left, give me live anytime, nice article though, rather well balanced all be it alot of it is based on speculation and rumour

[Feihc Retsam]

Since online gaming has gone mainstream, I can probably count the number of games I've played split screen on my hands...
Call me greedy, but I like having the entire screen to myself. It's much preferred for me to have my buddy get online at his house, and connect that way.
Even my buddys who are brothers made the investment to have their own separate xbox 360s that they can play from different rooms of the house. Split screen is kinda old-school in my opinion

[iceman2885]

Split screen isn't really that old school. You have to remember a lot of people that have gaming consoles are families with more than 1 kid. I don't know about you, but back when I lived with my parents I had 1 console for me and my brothers to all play on; not everyone has money to go buy 2 consoles, 2 versions of the game, and 2 televisions to play the game on. Plus there is a certain comraderie (sp?) that comes with playing a game splitscreen. I personally loved play Gears of War splitscreen with my brother instead of playing with him over Live. Of course this is just my opinion, but split screen is definitely not dead by a long shot. There is a huge demographic of families with more than 1 gamer and not 2 consoles.

Of course the whole argument is null and void if the PS3 version doesn't have splitscreen, which it very well may not since its all speculation as of now.

[dan-boy]

as 1.8 said, it's old school! i like a full screen, not half of one! i did'nt buy my hd so i could share the screen, even though it's big enough!

since going on-line 4 years ago, i would'nt give anything to return or even play split screen! definately not a plus in my book! but, rockstar does have to account for all the children who have ps3! and have to share with siblings and friends!

360 version for me! dlc, all my family and friends have them, and we're gonna be having a riot on-line real soon! just get the version you want peeps. don't listen to the opinions of others! especially uninformed know nothings that post in sites like this... just like me!

[grilledgorlupa8]

split screen would be sweet because in split screen games you can pass the bong

[Blakzhuk]

Bundle for GTAIV announced for 360?

[FreedomReign]

Source?

Looks like Photoshop to me... but I may be wrong.

[androctonvs]

you people seem to be forgetting that split screen is an option, and you are not forced to play split screen.

it's better to have that option that having no choice at all.

right. right?!

[gameraxis]

Must be the processing power, because 360 army of two DOES not have split screen co-op where the ps3 DOES... and that's a fact, see it with ur own two eyes like i have before u dissagree... ps. I couldn't find and sources on the internet, its actually pretty weird. and another thing is ps3 doesn't have the gun code option and 360 does...

so with that said i wouldn't be surprised if this game follows suite

[Shortstop]

So, you'd rather your friends come over and then go to different rooms of the house and everyone is isolated? Yeah, that's the best way to spend time with friends. Have you played Warhawk with 4 players splitscreen online? Splitscreen is still a part of gaming and always will be. Not many people are going to get 2 TVs together, let alone 2 gaming systems, just to play on their own screen.

[Harry190]

better one right now...

[Superiorrior]

That's subjective though, do you want more experience with the graphics, or DLC, etc.

[NO_PUDding]

Depends, do you want to pay for Wireless Adapter, Live Years Subscription, an HDD and possibly even the DLC, or wait for the PS3 exclsive content and just pay for that, or not?

[Fallen_Angel]

Actually most games have better graphics on the 360. I think the deciding factor or at least for me is what are your friends getting the game for. Mine are getting it for the 360 so I'm getting it for the 360 so we can all play together on xbl.

As for ps3 exclusive there are none tho its possible they could announce it at a later date. However I doubt think they will make any till they finish the DLC for the 360 but I do think you will get DLC that comes out for both the 360 and ps3. Probably more online stuff

[SixZeroFour]

who cares which one is the better one, all that really matters is what system most of your friends are playing it on...cause id think that most ppl are going to be playing it online after they finish the game and wouldnt you want to be playing it with friends

in the long run, i dont think anything else matters, like dlc, graphics etc...

im buying it on the 360, not because of all the facts, but because i only own a 360, not gunna buy a new system for a game that comes out for both consoles, and the majority of my friends only own a 360 as well

[InMyOpinion]

We will know when the game has been released. How many of the guys who write articles like these have actually had hands-on time with both versions of GTA IV?

It's all rumors and speculation.

[djcosta]

nope, not for me!!! HOW MANY TIMES AM I GONNA SAY IT??? XBOX 360 RULES RIGHT NOW!!! SEE SALES,FIGURES,GAME SALES,PEOPLE ONLINE ETC...

[BrotherNick]

MrAnonymous shouldn't have gotten the disagree...who the hell would buy a new system for a multiplatform game, if the graphics are close to one another. Bubbles too.

[JVIDICAN]

why are you in the gamer zone?
mods you know what to do ;)

[RJ2000]

Yeah like a few other stated. If you friends got suckered into a 360 and so did you. Might as well stick with it because (also like someone else said) a multi-platform game is not worth buying a new system. No matter how much it is.

For those who say split screen is "old", I am pretty sure the #1 requested thing for the new GTA was a co-op mode. So many people wanted it and now all of a sudden it's not a big deal? Sounds like some fanboyism if you ask me... But that is just my opinion

[crunchie101]

Damn I'm actually seriosuly considering getting GTA4 on both consoles now. I can always trade one in if neccesary - but if the PS3 version is smoother and controls better (Dualshock is the way I've always played GTA), then maybe I'll play singleplayer on PS3 and multiplayer/downloadable episodes on 360.

Is that crazy though?

[TheExecutive]

i would get one version and then see if you think its "missing" some aspect of it. If you want to play it on the ps3 buy it for that one and wait for the DLC to come out for the 360 and pick a cheap one up!

[crunchie101]

good idea. Allthough, living in the UK, because I've only preordered the 360 version, it might be a bit hard getting hold of a PS3 copy. Still that isn't so bad because in the long run the 360 version will have more longevity

[TheExecutive]

yep, it will have more longevity.

[Fallen_Angel]

crunchie101 I seen a lot of people say they are getting it for both. I'd never do that personally cause it seems like a waste of money. I dont know if they have it in the uk or not but I got a game pass (where you can rent unlimited games s for a monthly fee)with blockbuster. So what I'd do is just go rent both and decided what one I liked better and buy it. Other options be to read reviews and see how they say the 2 compare

[Electricear]

If the Ps3 has Split screen I'm grabbing it first as one of my friends and I have a game night every couple of weeks. This would make it top the list for a must have for me, and then down the road when the 360 DLC comes out I'll just pick it up for my 360 as well.

[RJ2000]

You guys realize that you will be paying for another game basically with the DLC right? I will call it now and let you people start to accept it. The DLC will cost over $20.

[Stryfeno1]

Can't wait to jump on Xbox Live with this. My custom soundtrack is going to rock with this game.

[RiseOfMonster]

You're not going to listen to the in game radio?

DJ Lazlow is the pwnage and the radio stations always kick a$s.

[Superiorrior]

Yeah your not doing yourself a favor by listening to your music, half the fun is listening to the crazy ass radio stations.

[MikeGdaGod]

if there was ever a game that doesn't need custom sound tracks, this would be it.

and i say that being a huge fan of custom tracks.

[heyheyhey]

@Dom

yeah man, VCPR FT!!!!

there was some funny sh!t

sometimes i would just pause the game, make some food and listen to the radio- its THAT good

[Stryfeno1]

At least I have a choice...After a while the radio stations gets dull IMO. I get tired of listening to the same loop over and over again. With custom soundtrack that will ease the pain and a bonus for when I jump online.

[yesah]

cant go 5 minutes without britney spears huh?

[NOLA]

to be perfectly honest, a big chunk of my enjoyment from GTA comes from listening to Lazlow lol. Sure, having my own radio station clad out with Metallica and Ozzy would be great but i can quite easily live without it.

[dfire1212]

ENOUGH ALREADY !!!!!!

[Hagaf22]

exactly, almost (and i mean almost not all) everyone on this site is going to buy this game and with in 5 seconds there will be a console war over which is better, but does it really matter? whether you buy it on the ps3 or 360 you still will enjoy the game. there will be minor differences but in the end those who buy it will enjoy it. its getting alittle old arguing over the petty differences of multiplatform games. we are all gamers so why cant we just say thanks to r* for making another hit and stop the constant arguing over which version is better?

[dachiefsman]

i could not have put it better myself....bubbles for you

[crunchie101]

What always amuses me in these articles is how over-the-top people prais LIVE over PSN.

Of course features like cross game communication and invites make online play a lot easier but 'pales in comparison?' I get the feeling someone hasn't actually used PSN.

Still the other guy also has his facts wrong - the split-screen feature was fake, people.

[Drekken]

crunchie do you have any links officially debunking this rumor? I still have high hopes!

[crunchie101]

I'm afraid I don't - only that, as far as I know, this feature was only mentioned in the 'first review' and hasn't been mentioned at all in any other reviews/previews

[TheExecutive]

I agree the communication aspect of the PSN is SORELY lacking. However, the actual gameplay is better, yes, better than XBL. We get actual committment from Sony in the form of dedicated servers. I hardly ever run into lag on the PSN.

So yes, the communication is lacking but the actual gameplay, the thing that matters most to me, is better on the PSN. When in-game xmb and HOME comes out it will be the dominant console network to play on and it will be free.

But we gotta wait for that :( Sony really needs to get their sh*t together and quick.

[Glad to be a gamer]

because dedicated servers mean that quality of exp will change depending on how far you are away from the server compared to who ever your playing.

Cod4 on the ps3 has some lagg issues(most noticable on bog.) Gt5 has big lagg problems with cars jumping backwards and forwards. When Motor storm came out my mates were having trouble even getting into a game. Pes 2008 although it had problems on both consoles was practically unplayable on psn even with the band aid patch that stripped down the textures from the ps3 version to try and get it to run. Unreal tournament also has lag problems. I have experienced these problems first hand on two of mates Ps3's.

I have 10 games from fighting/racing/football and shooting that i have play on live with no lag.I play people as far as japan in Vf5. I'm afraid that seprate servers is a short term solution for the psn with the user base increasing i don't see how Sony will be able to provide a good quality service to us the consumers using dedicated servers. Lagg aside there is also the problem of servicing and maintaining servers for every game with an online component and providing enough servers to fit everyone.

Face it Ps3 is a great console but Ms got to the online party early and now have a service that does the job. I feel Sony slipped up with the online component. I honestly hope they sort it out for Gt5/mgso as i know i want to play these when i get mine in june.

[yesah]

same...i hardly ever run into any lag on psn.

main reason i switched from computer gaming.

[TheExecutive]

lol you expect me to believe that p2p gives you more of a steady experience than dedicated servers?

Go play COD4 (p2p) and then play Resistance (dedicated) online and tell me which experience is more stable and lag free.

I get dropped constantly from p2p games and it p*sses me off. I hate to disagree with you here but, well, I do.

[FreedomReign]

From what I gather a few Sony Exclusives have benefitted from dedicated servers, while the majority of third parties use P2P. Is this inaccurate?

IW, and Criterion have both said as much, and unless a publisher can afford to run their own dedicated servers that does seem to be the best way to go.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but GTAIV has P2P on both platforms.

Also, Microsoft does allow developers to use their own dedicated servers. Saying otherwise is misinformation.

[JVIDICAN]

they do but its a hell of alot stricter with lives regulaions

[NOLA]

i dont see how LIVE benefits over PSN in GTAIV. once youre playing its gonna be the exact same game like CoD4

[Wolf873]

However, I don't see how LIVE and PSN are different in providing online play, though they offer differing services but overall online play is the same, I don't see what all the fuss is about.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

i'm getting confused... is there split screen or is there no split screen?

because that's a GREAT feature to have for GTA IV

[TheExecutive]

The one thing that made me not believe that review from cgreviews was the fact that he mentioned the ps3 had split-screen and the 360 didnt.

There is no way R* would do that. We havent heard ANYTHING from anyone else so I would throw it in the "Bullsh*t" bin.

[DarkSniper]

Rockstar games has confirmed that the PLAYSTATION® 3 version of Gran Theft Auto IV will be the superior product. With the internal strength of the PS3, it comes to no surprise which version will sell more.

Microslaves will argue that if you want the complete version of Grand Theft Auto IV, you can only find it on Xbox 360. Dark Sniper says if you want to simply COMPLETE Grand Theft Auto IV, it can only be accomplished on PLAYSTATION® 3. Your coffin will be in the mail in a matter of days.

$niper

[NO_PUDding]

No offense Dark SNiper, but I need bubbles, I can't believe I ( a fair person) have as little amount as you. And yet i am not spewing rubbish like you.

:P

Don't get me wrong I enjoy the rubbish, it's the Open Zone afterall.

[Harry190]

too tempting.

[Pain]

Notice xbots i said "Around the world" not America thats the place outside the US that PS3 kills Xbox..

[Mu5afir]

Dark Sniper says if you want to simply COMPLETE Grand Theft Auto IV, it can only be accomplished on PLAYSTATION® 3. Your coffin will be in the mail in a matter of days.

LOL, that is the best comment I have read in a while.. bubbles for you.

[gamesR4fun]

yep reliability better online (facts are dedicated servers are better)
split screen better gameplay (texture frame rate etc...
The machine wont rrod on ya.

And look at the votes 2x more peeps are buying this on ps3 according to their poles.
Lets face it M$ dropped the ball on 360 when they released rrod on the world and they continue to make a defective product 3 years after launch. Couple that with a customer service that is absolutely retarded and its easy to see why so many choose the ps3.

Nope for real gamers the only choice is ps3 imo

[will11]

ps3 is obviously the supperior version

[Z501]

About a year and a half from now R* will release a Special Edition GTAIV w/EVERYTHING on both platforms.
Watch.

[NOLA]

they may well do that but be damn sure im buying 'regular' GTAIV on April 29th!
i aint waiting another year for gods sake!

[heyheyhey]

so this is what? the 900th article about the same thing?

we already know the advantages, can we please get over it

360: DLC, Live, custom soundtracks
PS3: looks and runs better, home integration, split screen?

there, i just summed up 900 articles with 2 sentences

[Drekken]

They are really beating a dead horse... I dont want to hear anything else till release besides split screen confirmation

[Fishy Fingers]

Here's my 2 lines.

360 ~ Excellent game.
PS3 ~ Excellent game.

[fenderputty]

These articles are growing a little tiresome. I thought R* said the games would be the same feature wise. What's with all the split screen talk?

[vloeistof]

so ps3 has split-screen and 360 does not :s

[Ariexv]

Except neither has Split-screen. Split screen was mentioned in ONE FAKE review, and even that reviewer changed his mind and said NO split screen
http://cgreviews.com/

[TruthBTold]

as the way he put it, "its fun to argue about meaningless sh!t"

[TruthBTold]

They should look at the extra features that arent available on the other platform and purchase that version, if they are hard core GTA die hard fans and they have both consoles I really think they will want to buy the game for both consoles to get everything available for GTA because they are The Die Hard GTA fans.

[nirun]

who gives a flying f*ck really. it's personal opinion as to which is "better".

i don't really mind all this talk though, at the end of the day all of this will just motivate sales for both consoles.

just be happy and think of gta4 as a pretty important expansion of the gaming industry, because this game is going to be effin huge everywhere.

[tweaker]

Wait, the PS3 version isn't getting custom soundtracks? I thought it supposed work just like the PSP GTA game but this time you have an mp3 enabled cellphone that Niko carries. It should be able to access the music stored on the hard disk. IDK if its true or not but I hope it is. Although, I don't mind listening to the radio stations. Vice City's soundtrack was pretty good.

[crunchie101]

I'm sure that the PS3 version will have custom soundtracks. Sony recently updated the dev kits to allow it or something. All I know is it's coming to Burnout post-release so I wouldn't be surprised to see it in GTA PS3 from launch

[NOLA]

who knows until april 29th lol.
i remember something about microsoft owning a patent about custom soundtracks which meant it wasnt allowed to be included in ps3 games...:S it was probably fake but just thought id throw it out there

[TitanUp]

i pay for nothing that should come with the game you all should boycott dlc its discussing. how about last gen that was like one of the best gens ever did we have much dlc no way did we need no games were full without it.

[Lord Vader]

The comparisons this article makes are already obvious between the 2 systems...

All I want to know is who has the better framerate ? There's one slightly dubious article out there that says PS3 is better, I want to see more reviews regarding framerate, texture pop & slow down. My question is if it runs better, then why does it need to stream from the HDD ? I dont see that as an advantage, but a last resort if both systems cant run the game without HDD streaming...

Whichever runs smoother is the one I'll buy, until then, I'll gamefly them both if no one can give an honest & complete answer, which I'll probably never get from the internet anyways, lol. There's 10000 previews for this game & very few address how the game runs on each platform.

[brothersimon]

360.

This is a no brainer, even Americans know this one..

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

How 'bout ONLY Americans knows this...cuz Americans are the only ones buying the things.

I'm an American, but I'm ashamed at the number of people that bought the 360, knowing full-well that the PS3 would have a stronger line-up and longer support from Sony.

I find it quite sad.

[FOXDIE]

# Xbox 360
1098 27% of all votes

# Playstation 3
2844 71% of all votes

# Both
75 2%

[Kaz Hirai]

Nazisoft shall face a crushing DEFEAT on April 29th!
But it is a mere prelude to the true Judgment Day- June 12th! The PIGS are in PANIC!

56 days until Judgment Day, Nazisoft!

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[brothersimon]

orly?

1 bubble, lol ownt

Ignored by: 30 users, lol ownt

[heyheyhey]

why would you bring that up when you have 38 ignores?

[brothersimon]

because i dont really give a fock im just here to be annoying like every droid, they're programmed to protect ps3 tho i aint i just know what consoles the truth.

360 BOITCHZ

[alcaponedya]

than a slave; having a macroshaft rammed up your butt must be painful.

[Superiorrior]

Exactly brother simon, you never ever bring up any points, you just spout useless drivel just because you can, you never ever have brought anything intelligent to N4G, it's the same crap for example you have more ignores than anyone else here, yet you single some one out for having however many ignores, what relevance is this to the conversation, at least the fanatics are usually on topic, but you brothersimon are truly pathetic. You know what the funny thing is though, you and other xbot's alike are the actual demographic Microsoft is aiming for, and the demographic is retards.

[BigKev45]

360 version, DLC. No brainer.

[Superiorrior]

Go to the open zone if your gonna be a dumbass.

[princejb134]

you also gotta take note, not everyone wants the DLC
some people dont think much about extra missions because after your done with the missions your just gonna go back to free roaming and shooting cops

[yesah]

What about origional experience? On The Ps3.

[jaaz]

PS3 version for me. Playing with friends when they come over would be WAY too much fun to pass up.

[Ariexv]

http://cgreviews.com/ there's no split screen.

[Drekken]

so you expect me to use the site the "lie" came out on as proof that it was a lie?? That site is pure garbage from here out.

[Silellak]

Heh, one person posts a self-admittedly fake review of GTA4 that claims the PS3 version has split-screen multiplayer (not even mentioned in the PSM review) and suddenly everyone thinks it's true.

The internet *rules*.

Disagree all you want, fanboys. Doesn't change the facts. PS3 has no local splitscreen. Get over it.

Edit @Below:

It's Calvin and Hobbes making faces...why? What does it look like?

[heyheyhey]

what the hell is going on in your avatar?

[iceice123]

Will pick up the 360 version. For one only smart consumers will purchase the Xbox360, blind lemmings purchase the Ps3. Secondly do you want slightly better graphics(if it's true that is) that you won't even notice or do you want the complete GTA4 experience only found on the 360 version? I think we all know the answer is very easy to come to. The 360 is the definitive GTA4 experience, ps3 version won't come close.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

DL episodes are confirmed exclusive.

Episodes released on disc will probably release around the same time for the PS3.

Just...you know...because it's happened before.

I'm glad to be a lemming. Those things are adorable!

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

oh yeah, M$ is gonna let that happen. you're dumb.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

DL's are exclusives up through 2009.
after that however is a different
thing all together.

[klashawnd]

That I am not getting GTA IV for my 360 and that's RRoD. 100-hour game = burning hot 360 = super loud fan trying to cool the system = RRoD. Thanks but no thanks.

If it weren't for the hardware problems, getting it for the 360 would be a no brainer with Live multiplayer and DLC (which I will not be buying but hey having it certainly makes the 360 version a more attractive option over the PS3).

[iceice123]

You play your 360 for 100 straight hours at a time huh? If you're leaving a console on for 100+hours bad things will happen, regadless of which console.

[alcaponedya]

you gonna be extra careful and play 30 minutes a day so it doesn't RROD for the fifth time?
The PS3 can be on 24/7 and nothing will go wrong.
Look at Folding@Home.
Xbox would be Burning@Home

[Perkel]

nope dude ;) ps3 will survive this. I have Folding@home/games runnig every hour from 2 weeks and still is working fine . 2*4*24= aprox. 150h +

:P

///

@ alcaponedya Burning@Home.. rotfl a sh*t my pants xDxDxDxD

Bubble ^^

[Chris_GTR1]

mmm. i dunno about you guys but my ps3 freezez if i play uncharted for 3 hours. and damn does it make A TON of heat! my rooms literally 3 degrees hotter than the hallway outside my room. and i know, the freezing is actually the ps3 shutting off itself cause its too hot so it wont melt. id rather have a 40 gig than my 80, it uses a smaller 65 nm chip.

[alcaponedya]

That's completely bs.
you know how much heat it would take to heat that size 1 degree?
No you don't
There's only heat about a foot behind the ps3 and you can't feel anything beyond that.

[yesah]

man u have a fvcked up ps3, but my room is the sameway, hotter then the hallway. But i doubt its from the ps3. I have a computer, TV, and many other electronics in there. Hallways are also more open=less heat

but ya with the freezing, mine never had that problem. But i was afraid it would and i'd lose out on a $600 system. So i bought a cheap plastic stand at Target. it wasnt expensive, and its NOT this: http://www.amazon.com/Plays...

but it has vents on the bottom where the ps3 is, its a crappy stand clear and plastic, but thoose ventalation things at the bottom, keep my ps3 ice cold, the fan setteing never goes above the minimum. So this is the best acessory i ever bought. Besides the DS3

ill try to find link

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Pumps out some heat to, but through It's fans.
That's suppose to happen, Just like our PC.
but the PS3's casing never gets hot.

We've had no issues with our PS3.

[LastDance]

right........................ .............................. . .............................. . .............................. . .............................. . ........................ . . .

[Hydrolex]

Confirmed by a Rockstar employee: PS3 version is slightly better.

unless you are a fanboy

[Mwaan]

You're a fanboy yourself. You kinda owned yourself on that one.

[Skynetone]

But the 360 has the advantage of custom sountracks and 50 million worth of extras, hhhmmm

id pick the 360, {but ill never own a 360} so ill be picking it up for the ps3

[nitramn4g]

Most objectif post I've read so far.

[Hydrolex]

Prove: "Say what you will about the benefits of LIVE over the PSN, the PS3 version of GTA IV - and only the PS3 version - will allow you and a friend to team up for some local multi-player action via split-screen."

Ahahahah wow

so these are all true then

PS3 less jaggies
PS3 warmer and realastic colors
PS3 less FPS or no FPS drops
PS3 More peds and cars
PS3 Smoother FPS

[Ariexv]

Actually the first reviewer already said there's no split-screen
http://cgreviews.com/

SORRY BUT THE 360 IS THE DEFINITIVE VERSION.

[HelloBabe69]

actually yeah it was comfirmed to have no split screen but only to be identical to the 360. which i think is really dumb.

[Hydrolex]

the first review was true and Xbox 360 fans called it FAKE !

PS3 version won and end of GTA IV battle

[Ariexv]

You mean this review? http://cgreviews.com/

Even he says its fake now.

[damnwrx]

Definitely............

[Salta_nelas]

With Split screen, slight better visuals, hdd install for better experience, sixaxis options.

PS3 is the one to get.

[Drealmcc0y]

Where do you get this BS from?
You do know that no credible source has confirmed this.
Your just setting yourself up for ownage, when it comes out that the 360 has things like Split Screen. I mean why the hell wouldnt it!?

[The Dave]

Your a dumbass

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

LMFAO. Ill take 30 hours of expations over split screen any day of the week. who the f*ck has ever played a split screen game in their entire life anyway? LMFAO. What is this, the N64???? LMAOOO

[HelloBabe69]

people who have friends play split screen.

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

Friends?? HUH? That's why we have the internet. Don't pretend you droids have any friends wanting to play split screen. I play with my REAL friends over the net so we get our own TVs. pwn.

[4cough]

The ps3 version looks more like a bad idea everyday.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Tell that to the millions of PS3 owners that will be buying it...

Believe it or not, the PS3 version is, proportionally, DESTROYING the 360 version...in terms of reserves.

[rosebowl23]

The PS3 version is superior by far. HDD dumping by default will make every PS3 experience a better one. It will have DLC as well. It will have FREE content for PlayStation Home. And rumor has it that it has split-screen.

[nitramn4g]

HDD dumping is necessary for the ps3 because a blu-ray player reads slower then a dvd9. DLC for ps3 has not been confirmed.

[nitramn4g]

The avantages stated for the Xbox360 are now and certain. The ps3's avantages are more speculations and "future" stuff.

Custom soundtrack: 360=now ps3=later this year (meaby)
DLC: 360=for sure ps3=speculation

And has for the graphics and frame rate. There's no reliable source yet that has comfirmed which one is better if there not equal. I'll beleive when IGN and Gamespot review the game, not before.

[NOLA]

but you know for damn sure that IGN and Gamespot are 360 fanboy hangouts...the last strongholds as it were

all thats left is for some of them to see the light

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Downloading the game to your HDD makes sense, and I have a feeling most 360 owners will opt to do this anyways. From what I've read, unless you do this the game suffers from significant graphical issues.

Multiplayer Splitscreen is the most significant advantage and a number of sources have confirmed its PS3 exclusive.

I personally like the PS3 graphics better than XBOX because they aren't so shiny. You can also tweak w/ them unlike XBOX.

In game soundtracks aren't that important, the radio stations are part of the experience of this game, not to mention PS3 owners will get that option eventually.

PSN is more reliable than XBOXLIVE because it uses DEDICATED SERVERS! You pay for Xboxlive and you still have to use P2P Networking! LMAO at 360 owners.

And don't even get me started on the DLC. By the time it all finally comes out most people will have moved on to better games. Its not really worth it unless you're a diehard fan.

And DVD9 only reads faster towards the center of the disc. It reads at a variable speed and once it moves to the outer part of the disc it slow down alot. Blu Ray reads at the same speed constantly. They only way DVD9 would read faster would be if it is a small file that would fit mostly in the inner ring. This isn't likely though - the tracks on a disc are divide like slices of pie - they move outwards from the center.

[Silellak]

A "number of sources"? Please list ONE reliable source that says there's multiplayer splitscreen on the PS3.

Even the source of the rumor, the fake GTA4 review, has now retracted it.

[PSWe60]

The control set up on GTA have always felt better with the PlayStation controllers. PS3 FTW

[Silellak]

Personal opinions stated as fact FTW.

You do know the control setup for this GTA is fairly different than the previous GTAs, right? And that the firing/targeting system uses the triggers, right? And that most people find the 360 triggers superior to the PS3 triggers, right?

[SWORDF1SH]

i do agree with tigger that this is opinion and down to personal preference but tigger needs to calm down a little. also most people dont prefer the 360 controller. most people sat the 360 controller is good for fps (due to trigger like back buttons and analog stick where the d pad is on the sixaxis) but foe everything else people prefer the sixaxis. this is not fact but peoples opinion ive read on console sites over the months of the console wars. so i take this as the general view as this seems to be what people mention when comparin the consoles.

[Robearboy]

the open zone, it brings out the child in everyone, me myself will be getting the wii version ;) i can use my mario wheel to drive, my nunchucks to beat the living sh1t out of the immigrants and locals, my wii fit board to climb run and jump on things and my house of the dead zapper to cap some arses lol

[Official General]

I'm getting the PS3 version of GTA 4 for sure. It's the only console I own out of the current-gen consoles anyway, I dont intend on buying a 360. I've been hearing more and more stories appearing on the net and in magazines about the PS3 version and how good it looks, with a smooth framerate, good anti-aliasing and realistic-looking graphics. I really just hope that these things are true and not simply just rumors. Having said that, I have not read anything bad so far in the very few official reports that I've read about the GTA 4 PS3 version hands-on previews that have surfaced. Yeah episodic DLC would be nice, but it aint gonna be too bad if the PS3 dont get it. I'm just keeping my hands together and praying that the PS3 version runs well, looks and plays excellent and all good and complete, ready to go.

There is simply no reason or excuse to mess this game up, these guys have had long enough time!!!!

[juuken]

I'm with you on that. But I don't think Rockstar will mess this up. They have a good relationship with Sony.

I'm also getting the PS3 version. :D

[Drealmcc0y]

Wow people are lapping this up as if this source is credible.
Why the wouldnt the 360 have split screen? I mean there is no reason what so ever that it wouldnt. Give me a good reason apart from "cuz 360 suckz"!

[power of Green]

LOL at this PS3 fanboy emotional support post.

360 version will be the right choice unless you have already made up your mind about purchasing a PS3.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

because ps3 is a hell of a lot more powerful.

There have also been reports of the PS3 having more cpc's in the game as well. But when you go to splitscreen their numbers drop significantly. This proves how much more power it requires.

I've also heard rumors about how games that use a lot of the systems power on 360 are the culprit in RROD.

[Meus Renaissance]

People should note that there have not be any official reviews out yet, aside to the PSM and the OXM - neither which referred to the presence/and therefore lack of Split-Screen on either version. Other than that, we have these suspicious and unknown small budget sites that are writing articles on this game for which they probably have not played or seen anything of that which ourselves have not, and most likely just assimilate any information they post from other sources.

The Split-Screen option would be amongst the first things to have come out and confirmed by Rockstar or PlayStation sources, as it could be a selling point for many potential buyers like the Downloadable Content for the Xbox 360 version but no one has done that - so why should we assume that this is really factual? I wouldn't even take it with a pinch of salt personally. There is absolutely no reason to do so, especially when this rumour came from the same website which gave that fake review, just to get hits and fuel fanboy wars.

Remember that.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

I've heard that because MS gets DLC PS is getting splitscreen. You also have to consider R* is getting 50million from MS so they probably want to keep this underwraps so as not to piss them off.

[Silellak]

Let's assume your theory is true.

How would keeping people from talking about the splitscreen feature make Microsoft less angry? Like no one from Microsoft will EVER find out about the feature if none of the big name sites or magazines talk about it?

Rockstar isn't stupid enough to try and hide any feature before release. If there were multiplayer splitscreen on the PS3, then the OPM review would've mentioned it. This is just a ridiculous rumor started by one guy that's gotten out of control because that's how the internet works.

End of story.

[ghostface]

Well i had this game preorder for the 360, then the disk drive desided it didnt want to play me games any more, so i switch my preorder to the ps3. the funny thing about that is i wont have a ps3 until june12, in which i will buy the metal gear solid bundle.

[LightningPS3]

But the idea of the PS3 version looking better suddenly seems a possibility with the information we've heard.

I mean we've heard that some of the Rockstar developers themselves think the PS3 version looks a little better.(that came from 1up, not fanboys)

And then you got that install for the PS3 version. Could actually be an advatage to making the game run smoother or have better load times.

Installs, It could be a luxury because every PS3 owner has a HDD not like 360.

Positive view for installs is that it leaves it open for developers to give the PS3 version an adge in load times and frame rates.

Negative view is that the PS3 just simply requires an additional step to achieve what the 360 does automatically.

Who's right? I don't know.

[CyberSentinel]

"The R* Employs he was with also said they "think" the Ps3 version looks slightly better, but Skip says playing side by side he couldn't tell the difference and that the opinion of the R* employees he was with didn't match the opinion of all the dev-team @ R*."

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

Blind Lemming, That's NOT What Rockstar's DEVELOPMENT TEAM THINKS.

[OpiZA]

Hehe... so much FUD. Suppose i asked for it, clicking on comments on N4G for gods sake. Silly me.

[The Dave]

because the ps3 is the only system capable of processing split screen for that game at an acceptable frame rate. The graphics are of course toned down for split screen.

[belal]

FTW

you can keep your dlc

i got split screen haha

owned.

[belal]

have you seen the poll POG? ps3 winning :)

[Tunerboy8732]

because for 1 I dont own a PS3 only a 360 & PSP and I wanna build up my achievment and be able to get the most out of GTA IV with the dlc.p.s 360 is 2008 we been running it since day 1 while u PS3 fanboys patiently wait for a game worth buying for that glossy black grill XD

[The Dave]

maybe you can go to your buddy's house who has a playstation and play some split screen.

[SWORDF1SH]

the thing i found interestin was the poll. over 75% of people that voted will be gettin the ps3 version.

[Alcohog]

I concur, that was more interesting than anything I read in that article.

[PimpHandHappy]

fre3fixme fools

then why dont you buy it in Sept when you get your DLC!

answer me that you fukn idiots

if you want the game that has the edge, small edge ok, then you buy the PS3. Rockstar said themselfs they think the PS3 version looks SLIGHTY better!

this time last year that SLIGHTY better would have been reason for every fukn xbot in this joint to come out of the wood works and tell us all the PS3 is doomed

[4D]

A supposed employee said they thought the PS3 version looked better. STFU you FUDtastic FudgePacking Flamming F@GGOT. You show me an official release statement from Rockstar or crawl back to your hole.

Go give yourself some PimpHand Happy Hand time while videotaping me as I finish bending your mom over the way Sony bent you over with a $600.00 Blu-Ray player. In othew words Hard, no lube, and no foreplay!!!!!

WAIT B3YOND A$$ JOCKEY.

[sak500]

LOL @4D

Now I'm waiting for someone to come up on this site with the name Pixarlikegraphics Or maybe 2gigabitports or 7 controllers? or maybe cellbroadbandengine, or even "peoplewillworkdoubleshif ts"

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Actually your right, It wasn't Rockstar that said
the PS3 version is slightly better, It was
Take Two who said it.

Look for that article and see for yourself.

[G1L]

Ok, so this looks like the legit cover for GTA IV on the PS3, hosted on planetgrandtheftauto website
http://planetgrandtheftauto... http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/...
If you can see the first icon on the left, it says 1 player, so I can assume this puts and end to this rumor.
Even tough I only own a PS3 and would like it a lot if it had splitscreen. I think this generation of consoles is lacking a lot in this department, (specially splitscreen for 4 players)and I disagree with anyone who says otherwise, 4 me it still is a lot of fun to have people playing with me phisically in the same room. Maybe I'm old fashioned :P. Cheers

[Figboy]

that means a lot to me, because if i'm able to tackle the co-op split-screen, me and my fiance would be able to play together.

we're always looking for new games to play, and we're currently playing through Resistance co-op, but there aren't enough games in this new generation yet, that support co-op that's NOT online only.

i'm not buying another PS3 anytime soon, and i'm certainly not going to buy two copies of GTAIV just so me and my fiance can play together.

i was going to get the PS3 version anyway (i have GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas on my PS2, so i'm keeping the GTA series in the "family" so to speak), and the "perks" of the 360 version don't really appeal to me (i have a 360 also).

i prefer the PS3 controller, i like the idea of Home implementation much better than Achievements, and anyone who has actually spent some online gaming time with a PS3 know that, apart from a few minor things, the PSN delivers some quality online (ie, i can get online and talk to friends, and play games like Warhawk with relative ease).

for me, at least, online is such a minor thing anyway, as i'm a single player gamer at heart, and GTA has always been a single player affair for me. of course i'm going to try out the multi-player, but only AFTER i've spent countless hours playing the single player. of course, by the time i'm done with that, Haze and MGS4 will be out, so it may be a while before i even get through GTAIV's single player campaign, let alone tackling it's multi-player, and pining for episodic content in any way.

too many games, with too little time, honestly. GTAIV will be lucky if i play through it through May, let alone June (MGS4 will DOMINATE June for me).

[Glad to be a gamer]

In the same article they also go one to say the 360 dlc is not a selling point as the ps3 is getting its own dlc. Make of that what you will considering i think we all know that the dlc for the 360 is exc and episodic not new veichles and weapons etc.

we have no comparison articles/pictures and the games isn't even out but some how you know the ps3 version runs and looks better.

Here are some comparison shots of dmc4 and cod4 the games that some think are either equal or better on the ps3. Pictures courtesy of Lost Paradise.

Dmc4 check out the chest plate

http://farm3.static.flickr....
http://farm3.static.flickr....

Cod4 check out the floor and gun textures

http://n4g.com/ViewComImage...

[devilhunterx]

next time when I play COD4, I will keep pausing and checking if what you say is true. You know, instead of actually playing the game.

You must have been a pc gamer in your previous life, right?

[Vulcan Raven]

"360 is 2008 we been running it since day 1 while u PS3 fanboys patiently wait for a game worth buying for that glossy black grill"

So what incredible games have come forth in this amazing 08 line up thus far. So what have you been running since day 1?
Have you played GT5, looks amazing. From the numbers it looks like PS3 so far this year is kicking the sh!t out of 360. Well common sense dictates that you are an idiot, or you are wearing some pretty thick fanboy goggles.

[Z501]

Why not wait til Sept?
Come Apr 29th both ver will be virtually the same.

Cept little thing like custom soundtracks & Sixaxis controls.
I'm assuming NO ONE will answer that question.

[PimpHandHappy]

because they know its going to be the only game other then COD and Halo they play till November

[bioshock]

how many times did i tell u....get the hell outta these pages...ur claims are useless just like ur 360...
xbox sold 25 mil in 4 years...what big deal m$ pull to sell 18 mil in 3...they will reach the same install base by 4 years....lame machine...secondly u are not a gamer...gamer dont bash machine they play games which ever console they are on.u behave as u have personal vandetta against sony...stop the F..get a life
dont u bots got better things to do expect bashing the leader of 2 generations.....u are pathetic..

[devilhunterx]

This is an easy answer: which consoles doesnt dies on you. Thats the one you should buy on.

[nutmaniv]

But if you enjoy Xbox Live and you're interested in the DLC then why would you NOT get the 360 version? I don't know why you care which version other people get.

[starbuck]

Not adding fuel to the fire but didn't I read that MS holds the patent to "In game custom sound tracks" so if a company wants to have the feature in a game on another console they have to pay MS for that feature
http://www.google.com/paten...

[Varsarus]

The Xbox 360 is starting to see it's limitations, Rockstar WILL say that both versions are identical, they want to make money of both versions, that what's business is all about.

Having EDRAM on the 360 didn't help Halo 3 reach 720p or get any Anti Aliasing now did it!, Mass Effect suffers bad frame rate during gameplay AND cutscenes, it has terrible loading times, bad tearing issues, even texture loading AND ALL THE BEST DEV TOOLS WERE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS, ESPECIALLY BUNGIE AND BIOWARE LMFAO!!!.

The PS3 devs got the kits late with crappier tools and working on a new architecture yet are achieving great stuff today! (Uncharted, Ratchet and some others). So imagine what's in store for the PS3 when they get more dev kits available and using OpenGL Mt Evans!! which brings massive changes to games.

Blu-ray speeds and DVD speeds are different, developers know what they are doing with DVD speeds, but not blu-ray, so give them time then they'll take advantage of it.

@5.0 HYDROLEX

Now that seems interesting, split screen...lol, the ps3 version is the only one? lol, that looks like it makes sense, probably the 360 is too weak to handle it, and no this is not from that reviewer this time...lol.

[Hercules]

you buy the one with the console you already have...simple, now if you have both consoles then you go into considerations:

360 - DLC; Xeno chip better graphics; XBL; custom soundtracks
PS3 - Home (if it gets released); faster loading times; originally PS brand

now you take these facts and deal with them..there is no use for a game war, i never seen anything like this..just play the game..end of story

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

HAHAHAHHHAAHA I'm not reading this filth! LMFAO. Funny sh1t.

[Saint Sony]

Just because 50% of PS3's good sides were based on rumors.

360 and GTA IV for me please, but this game will rock on both consoles.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

spilled by Sony droids. Claiming another victory of the slightly better version of the most anticipated video game as of history!
I just know I'll be paying $60 dollars for it, no more no less! Ps3 baby! Dream on! Get one!
The ps3 domination has been the best game I've seen thus far!
we can all feel the massive cult suicide at microsoft headquarters & the xbots are feeling it.
I used to pay coins at the arcades-one day it was dollars, then it was a plastic cards and fake tokens you couldn't spend no where else. One day I stop going: consoles saved money!
today only 1 console is ripping people off. Its like buying a bag of tokens, playing at the arcades and the machine turns off & you don't get a refund. They just send you to another store within the company!
No thanks.

[pricklypete]

and pre-ordered the ps3 one.

the split screen got me.

The amount of time playing this game online doesn't matter about exclusive DLC.

i think i'm ending my live account.

the only thing i think 360 is better at is getting good zombie games that don't go to ps3.

[xbox3shitty]

ill buy the ps3 version which is superior, which doesnt give me rrod and open tray errors

[Surfman]

PlayStation 3 Version for me.

[wangdiddy82]

But i dont see why people get so hyped for this game.. Its a good game but nothing special. Its pretty much the same stuff every game too.. I guess im just not a huge fan of the series.

Anyway i might check this game out though..

[DFresh]

Well...
If you compare both sides.

PS3:
Exclusive Bundle

360:
Downloadable Content
Whoopee one level more!

Judging by that exclusive deal Sony has, looking that those hungry PS2 GTA Fans waiting to switch, and looking at the unbelievable line up Sony has planned I believe Sony will sell more of this copy.

[Brixxer600]

I had it pre-ordered on PS3 but was informed that i wouldn't get it on launch, some people say it's selling more on PS3 but the explanation i got was straight from the distributors "PS3 pre orders for certain stores will be at roughly 20% of what is required", i was then told instore that i could get it on launch for the 360, so i'll see some of you on XBL.

The distributor also said that they have no idea when the next batch will be ready, could be 2 weeks, could be longer, if you haven't got a pre-order then you're in trouble and even if you have you still might not get it.

[Trick Nolte]

Gta started on PS and thats how i know it plus all my friends are getting the PS3 version so its a no brainer because Online is gonna be the beezneez!!!

[Microshaft]

Who the F**** cares about split screen because hell i dont , and most if not all 360 owners dont either, so stop relying back on to the ole "We go split screen act" when the 360 has the DLC, which most 360 fans if their clever enough will get it and i think that beats poxy split screen anyday ROFL

And above you said we get "one more level", i think you have overly underestimated what $50m makes in game terms.

[FOXDIE]

sure, you will get the DLC.
But it will be to late, cuss the world would have moved on by that time!

[Gaara_724]

Xbox 360:
831
Playstation 3:
2074
Both:
62

thats for buying it on the concil and the numbers bleow the concil are how menny selected that concil

[the-source]

if you go to the news source itself it has a poll on which version people will buy.

70% ps3
28% 360
02% both

[Knightofelemia]

I preordered the game for the ps3, eb could not accept n e more preorders for the 360

[lelik]

Why does every xbox fanboy deny that they want split screen? your favorite game, the one that made xbox what it is, has been played on split screen for as long as it's been out. halo lan parties were some of the funnest times in gaming. when halo came out everyone was hooking up 2 or more xboxes at a time to play split screen. how are you gona call yourself and xbox fan and tell me you don't care about split screen. you all fail.

i had the original xbox and i bought it for split screen halo with my friends. stop trying to defend your crappy ass version, we all know you want split screen.

[cokzilla23]

never before had i ever preordered a game. now in the past 2 months i've preordered 2. MGS and now GTA IV when i went to purchase GT5. this sure is turning out to be an expensive year for me in regards to video games and we're not even at mid year yet. i dont know about anyone else, but now im kinda hoping killzone 2 doesn't come out till next year. i dont see me having time to play so many games and still balance having a life and a girlfriend.

[DaffyD]

It's funny that all PS3 pro's are "maybe coming in future" or "rumors say", but all XO features are something what they are delivering for sure. It's also funny to see that after 2007 there still are huge load of PS3 fan's who still believes that in GTA IV PS3 version there will be superior textures and no frame rate problems even PS3 have smaller available main memory and video memory.

[omodis420]

I believe this title originally began development on PS3, I highly doubt there will be any frame rate issues.
Also many developers are saying that from now on they will develop first with the PS3 and port to the 360. This will be the new trend, and I believe the frame rate issue will go away.

[omodis420]

I don't understand why these articles always assume that everyone has both systems. Even if you do. Okay.... Now ask yourself which version is important to you. Many could care less about Online. To some its everything. People just need to let there wallets do the talking on April 29th . Then we can see which version wins.

[DaffyD]

"I believe this title originally began development on PS3, I highly doubt there will be any frame rate issues. "

Rockstar did start GTAIV development at 2004, so I seriously doubt that they did began GTAIV development with on PS3 platform. Sony did get first final PS3 development platform ready only 6 months before PS3 release, which is over a year later than first XO development platforms did come to third-party developers (and first PS3 development platforms did go to first- and second-party developers).

[FOXDIE]

# Playstation 3
2844 71% of all votes

# Xbox 360
1098 27% of all votes

# Both
75 2%

The people have spoken?

[jones smokey]

emmmm is it just me or did cod4 not prove that big multiplatform games will be sweet on both 360/ps3!!!!! and yeay split will be quit big, i live with my brother and we play split screen on cod4 sometimes even tho our ps3 is online. any way i know what i will be doin on 29, just dont think i am dead if u try calling my phone and know one picks up =D

[Psycopod_Eng]

I'v had no problems with PSN with any of my games, i guess if ur own internet connection is stable you would suffer as much lag, i feel it provides a good service all round Rock on Sony!!!

My Bad i'm a complete noob an messed up everyone just ignore me!!

[edhe]

Check xbox.com and playstation.com and search for the games for the official back-of-the-box info.

[djcosta]

every time im writing something good about 360 i get 100 disagrees and comments back about not being right etc...i was trying to find out if this site really has only ps3 fanboys and i really think now that its does... nice one people!

[nitramn4g]

I agree with you 100%. This site is filled with Sony worshipers. GT4 ps3 would run at 15fps and have no online, they still would be promoting it. For me it's obvious, buy for the system you have. And the best controller is the one that your most use to.

[omodis420]

I have seen tons of 360 fan boys
But never any Wii

And besides what would the fun in coming to this site be, if there were not opposing sides arguing.

[pp]

split screen on ps3 i doubt it very much because ps3 want be able to hadle it

[Varsarus]

You sir, are a retard.

The 360 is already choking to death trying to keep the single player of having a stable frame rate let alone split screen, Rockstar will be more than happy to put in split screen for the PS3 version, as it can handle it.

[Microshaft]

Whats the need though when all my friends are on the best online network available so i can play with 15 people on my friends list, thats why im not bothered about split screen.

and to you above, your the retard for saying the 360 has frame rate problems, when the PS3 suffers from it in most multi plat games

[pricklypete]

I hope that when the game comes out in a week and a bit, that we all can just get along and forget about these posts. i definitely got carried away.

but now am less agitated with waiting. MGS online beta monday that should keep me busy till thursday solid.Then COD maps ... finally with double XP weekend. work one day and then.

BAM nextday GTA

[dreamer3kx]

im getiing the ps3 version because my 360 might red ring while playing this game.lol.

[Bluemaster77]

in the end were all going to be immersed so far into that the other consoles faults or pluses will no be in mind as minor or as nonexsitent as they might and most probably be please endthis anti sony anti microsoft bickering