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Mark Cerny on PS4 Architecture: I Think “Around 2016 or so” is When We’ll see the True Benefits

Even though a number of titles that are due to release for the PS4 are already taking advantage of the new hardware, Cerny has told Edge that he wanted a design that could be explored for years to come:

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user74029312073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

i agree. but im already going to see big benefits from upgrading from

.720p 60hz lcd 32' hdtv

.ps3

to

1080p 120hz 40' led hdtv

.ps4

ZHZ902073d ago

This is going to be amazing.

PraxxtorCruel2073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

Around 2016 gamers will be expecting next-gen to arrive within a year or two of that. Although it probably won't happen till at least 2020.

UltimateMaster2073d ago

Already seen the difference.
It's amazing.

Xsilver2073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

nice set up only a 40inch i'm going 60 inch for next gen.

Sevir2073d ago

My TV has been Next Gen Ready, 46in 3DHDTV 1080p 240hz.

And I upgraded to that last year around black Friday! :) Bliss begins on Nov 15th 2013

Boody-Bandit2073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

60 sounds nice. I currently have triple 46" mirco bezels. I'm thinking of upgrading to triple 60's for next gen.

What I want more than anything is a 100" screen. 110 would be ideal but beggars can't be choosy. That way I cant get rid of my projector and just have an LED. That would be killer. I'm already putting money aside for one.

Holeran2073d ago

51 inch 1080p 3-d 480hz subfield plasma downstairs, 42 inch 1080p 120hz lcd upstairs, is what I have now to play with and won't be upgrading anytime soon.

Magicite2073d ago

anything above 120hz is nonsense

3-4-52073d ago

Once all these dev's are on their 2nd & 3rd games, we will see what they can really do.

They will have more experience with it and know how to make better games even quicker with more power.

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byeGollum2073d ago

hopefully I don't have to wait so long for a reason to buy a PS4. .

srd44842073d ago

Serious question here. If the PS4 is more powerful and easier to develop for, why can't we see it now or in 2014? The excuse for the PS3 wa because it was harder to develop for. Well , this system is easier. Is this some kind of excuse to have in case the gamers aren't happy with the games being released in the next 12 months? We're always told to wait, it's coming soon.

BRAD-RIDGE2073d ago

this is a console thats has to last at the least 6 years. you won't go maxing it out day one :-)

srd44842073d ago

I see what you're saying but it just feels like both are hyping the shit out of the consoles and now we're told to wait till 2016 or longer for maybe full potential.

Sitdown2073d ago

Allow me to apologize in advance for what is about to happen to your innocence.

Ezz20132073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

think it of that way
if they try and max out ps4 this early
every game and every sequal will look the same to the point gamers will get bored really quick and ask for a new gen of consoles way too early
and games will take to much time to develop to get every thing out of the ps4
when dev's still not used to those new consoles yet
and gamers won't get to feel games getting better in gfx each and every year
that would be bad for gamers and bad for business

i think they are only doing this from business standpoint

@the_infected
agreed
ps4 is very very easy to work with
pretty much every single dev from 1st/2nd/3rd party confirm that

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BitbyDeath2073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

It's easy to program for in terms of what they are building now. But building a brand new engine takes time. Devs won't have the time/money to learn all the secrets in one or two titles.

It's not so much hidden power but resource allocation and optimisation tricks against unknown hardware.

HowarthsNJ2073d ago

Devs like Naughty Dog are using their old engine.

grassyknoll2073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

The proper answer to your question is the PlayStation 4 is quite compute heavy, which takes a lot of programming which developers don't have time for, for launch games, but should get better make developers get use to the system.

Also, developers optimise their games as they go along: compare Uncharted 1 to 3 for instance. Developers develop better techniques, software & get to know the hardware better over time.

LordDhampire2073d ago

developing tools always get better over time

ATi_Elite2073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

Very Good question! Bubbles+ Well said!

ALL we hear is how Sony listened to the Devs and made a consoles that the DEVS wanted, that was easy to program for, that was POWERFUL, EAsy, and Dev friendly.

So why in the hell do Gamers gotta wait till 2016 for BEASTLY Games is a great QUESTION!

Answer: I think many of the first gen games are just PS3 Games being converted to PS4 games. Most of the time is spent getting the game to run on the PS4 with a small amount of time to bump up graphics.

Also you have to remember that Devs gotta build Game Engines depending on the PS4 Hardware so that takes time too. Most do not want to use PS3 Game Engines on the PS4 or if they do they gotta mod the engine to get the most out of the PS4.

The second Gen games should be games planned from day 1 to be PS4 games and Devs will have had time to dig into all the tricks of the HD7850 GPU on the PS4 thus making full use of the PS4 hardware.

Hicken2073d ago

... with the PS3 being such radically different hardware than the PS4, that doesn't make a whole lotta sense. It would actually make MORE sense if they were formerly 360 games. And yeah, that makes none at all.

The rest of what you said is sensible: it takes time for devs to build engines that work very well with the new consoles. And as they get more familiar with the hardware and what the engines they've built are capable of, they'll learn new ways to get more out of them.

DigitalAnalog2073d ago (Edited 2073d ago )

@srd4484

I believe your scope for "easier-to-develop" is an extreme example.

But let's use the recent games for the current generation as a reference point:

GTA5, Halo 4, TLOU. Let's say that these games are the highest budget-to-tech ratio that practically took 7 years in the current-gen scenario.

Let's go earlier and what the technical showcase for the PS3 was: Killzone 2 & Uncharted 2, Infamous - all released at 2009 - 3 years AFTER the initial console release.

Now using the PS4 for the recent e: Killzone:SF & Infamous in the FIRST quarter of release. Already running in 1080p with KZ:SF targeting 60fps on the multiplayer.

THIS IS DAY ONE. With inFamous appearing a few months later.

If we were to use the example provided with the current-gen samples, then we should be seeing Killzone: SF by early 2016 but now AS A LAUNCH TITLE.

So yes, compare the early releases of last-gen and this gen, add to that the highest technical showcase recently, gives you a better scope of what "2016" may bring to the table.

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Dante812073d ago

I hope so because the PC beast is looming over console shoulders.

WeAreLegion2073d ago

I have to wonder if Sony will go full PC next time around. The Vaio series is one of the top rated on the market. With Steam's huge push toward Linux, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sony try something similar. In a perfect world, they would just work WITH Valve.

LordDhampire2073d ago

It won't match, high end pc's so don't get your hopes up...but I have a high end pc and its not all about graphics some games you just want to sit back and enjoy on a couch, I know Ill be buying a ps4

I do hope it makes more games get optimized for 8 cores so amd processors start to shine again. I've been intel pretty much since C2D came out and would love the get back on the amd side, Intel's way overpriced and I love amd graphics cards.

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