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Killzone: Shadow Fall Director Details Bots: “They Really Mimic Human Player Behavior”

Killzone: Shadow Fall will come with bots in order to beef up multiplayter matches or to practice offline, and Guerrilla Games seems to be quite confident on their performance, as explained by Game Director Steven Ter Heide.

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ZodTheRipper4300d ago

I love shooters with bots. Played so many matches against bots in Unreal Tournament, I think they should be in every FPS nowadays.

pedrof934300d ago

“They Really Mimic Human Player Behavior” ?

What kind of human ? 13 years old homophobic racist ?

Will they annoy me when I stab them from behind ?

Is that so GG ? LOL

ZodTheRipper4300d ago (Edited 4300d ago )

That's a CoD exclusive feature.

overrated444300d ago

As soon as a bot calls me "fag" is the moment I go all John Connor and begin the human vs machine revolution.

Maddens Raiders4300d ago (Edited 4300d ago )

Not sure what you're on about Pedro. I just finished a 4 hour KZ3 marathon and no one said a word to anyone else. In fact a lot of people on KZ don't need to use mics because it's really pointless unless you're with a friend or really in a tourney situation. I've been playing KZ2 and KZ3 for a long time now and can not count on one hand how many times I've heard persistent, abhorrent behaviour. I think you are applying COD type behaviour to that in KZ and that's misdirected.

OT - "You can have those bots either in online matches, and they’ll replace some of your human friends or you can play an offline match against bots."

"they know how to play all the different mission modes, they can deal with whatever customization you throw at them, and best of all they really mimic human player behavior. So if you set them to hard, that’s a pretty good challenge."

...this is very exciting news! I hope the AI in the SP is jacked up on super aggressive too.

Mainsqueeze4299d ago

Isn't the point of single player to play against computers lol I don't understand why people would rather play against bots in MP. My guess is they don't like losing lol or they don't know how to mute ppl.

Spinal4299d ago (Edited 4299d ago )

What kind of people play multiplayer with bots?? It has to be unskilled people who can't handle taking on other players who could be using their own tactics.

The only time u play against bots is Singleplayer. Other than that multiplayer is about testing an improving your skills vs other players who could range from noobs to masters of their craft which in turn helps u become a master player.

Can't wait for GTA online I'm going to really enjoy the shoot outs vs other players hopefully they remove that gay auto aim shit.

pedrof934299d ago

@Spinalcord

What about people that don't have internet ? or people that is completing the single player campaign ?

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snipab8t4300d ago (Edited 4300d ago )

I know right. Hardly any shooters come with a botmode which sucks. I have so many awesome memories of playing splitscreen UT3 and Battlefront 1&2 with mates. Plus Battlefield 2 bots were awesome. I don't understand why it is overlooked so much these days.

ZodTheRipper4300d ago (Edited 4300d ago )

Bots would be so smart these days if all developers would include them in their games ...but since noone is bothering with it, noone feels the need for improving them. Killzone always had bots so that's a plus ...in fact they are pretty good, but still not perfect. (or "human-like", for that matter)

snipab8t4300d ago

I don't even care if they are dumb, I just find it fun to mess around without the stress of playing online.

Majin-vegeta4300d ago

Bots and the AI especially in Killzone are smarter than 99.9% of humans online xD.

ZodTheRipper4300d ago (Edited 4300d ago )

Yeah they really are ...unlike most human players they at least go for the mission objectives lol

THC CELL4300d ago (Edited 4300d ago )

See this is where the cloud could come in, they could set up a brain for bots and say the best players in the online world it will extract some real players abilities and use it in ai am going to use halo as a example a bot would never learn a noob combo, that brain to learn everything.

ZodTheRipper4300d ago (Edited 4300d ago )

Unreal Tournament had "godlike" bots in 1999 that were better than 90% of real players ...without the cloud.

I tried this level over 50x when I was a kid :D
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Them memories ...

ginsunuva4300d ago

But we don't want them to be cheaply better due to mathematics, but as good as the good players due to AI learning.

krontaar4300d ago

Heard this a million times.

Enemy4300d ago

And with Guerrilla it's always true.

STK0264300d ago

Not the first time a game developer makes this claim, and more often than not it ends up being bots with perfect aim and cheap tricks. I'll believe it once I play the game, until then, I'll remain skeptical.

cj1pate1014300d ago

Killzone 2 had ok medocre bots prob the only game that succeded at this leval. When the dev comes out this early saying yea our bots act like humans. That tells me cheap tricks.

Destrania4300d ago

Learn English please. Your idiocy might rub off on someone.

Mainsqueeze4299d ago

Lol guy gets mad so he has to resort to personal insults. Sorry that someones opinion hurts your feelings so bad.

HammadTheBeast4300d ago

That's the painful part. I don't mind stupid bots as much as ones with auto-tracking and perfect aim.

Nick_5154300d ago

Killzone 3 had GREAT bots.

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15 Last-Gen Games That Still Compete with Current-Gen Graphics

GB: "Say what you will about the state of the industry, but even as games evolve, their graphics remain a key aspect. Even some of the biggest flops this year sport some gorgeous visuals, as publishers and developers push the boundaries of what’s possible, pouring years of time and money into their work."

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darthv72229d ago

Quantum Break and Ryse are two that I was really surprised did not get an FPS boost option when played on the Series X|S. when i started playing both on the XBO, I thought they are both good, but after playing them also on my steam deck (in 60fps) I just cant go back and play the base games on XB. They really benefit from that faster frame rate.

Driveclub is another i wished had a HFR mode on PS5.

MatrixxGT229d ago

Most games this gen are the exact same except now we get faster loading through SSD and a res and fps bump. Graphically not much has improved, hell most last gen games are being relabeled and resold as “remastered” with the aforementioned updates.
I haven’t seen or played anything on either platform that couldn’t be run on last gen. Guess the law of diminishing returns is really showing itself these days.

127maXimus228d ago

Most games from 20 years ago are basically the same as today, with resolution and fps upgrades. The AI is still just as braindead as it always has been, worlds are full of static, boring characters that do the same thing over and over.

Demetrius228d ago

Smh another reason why graphics haven't improved that much is because most devs too caught up on cross gen. Ps4 was/still a dope console but time has moved on we're halfway close to a ps6 reveal and devs still will be making games on last gen in 2025. Then theres Microsoft purposely got the Xbox series s that causes more devs to try to pull strings as much as they can smh. It's a mixed bag of stuff, the only ones I see pushing hardware is sonys studios and even some indie games look better

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman236d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro236d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken235d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown236d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72236d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken235d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya235d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast236d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood236d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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Killzone After a Decade in Hibernation

It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.

Obscure_Observer579d ago

Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.

Vengeance1138579d ago

lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.

Cacabunga578d ago

With the downfall of COD and BF, Killzone def. has a chance to make a groundbreaking comeback

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Notellin578d ago (Edited 578d ago )

What a low-functioning reply here typical of the fanboy N4G community.

Rimeskeem579d ago

“Dumped”

I think it’s called moving on.

Barlos578d ago (Edited 578d ago )

They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.

I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.

1Victor578d ago

@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”

Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.

ChasterMies578d ago

“Sadly”?

The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.

Shane Kim578d ago

True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.

Mr_cheese578d ago

Dumped and shelved are two different things

Tacoboto578d ago

And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.

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GoodGuy09579d ago

I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.

Flawlessmic578d ago

Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.

Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.

blackbeld578d ago

To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.

Rynxie578d ago

And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.

Lightning77579d ago

I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.

Sharky231577d ago

@Lightning77

I think WarHawk would have been a great Live service game.

thorstein578d ago

Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.

I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.

P_Bomb578d ago

It’s been a decade? Now I’m sad.

LiViNgLeGaCY577d ago

I hear ya bud. We're due for a revival.

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