Rayman Legends raises the question; has Ubisoft just out 'Mario'd' Nintendo?
No, Rayman has gone above and beyond the most recent Mario platformers. It's gorgeous, fluid, and one of the best series I've played in years.
You've said all that needs to be said. Discussion closed. :)
The actual platforming isn't even close to Mario's get a grip Mario has had 100's of 10 /10 games,this is not in DK or Mario's territory end of,the platforming is loose not even in the same league i have legends so no biassed opinions here...
Well...no, not really no. I mean yea rayman legends (bought it day 1) outdoes recent 2d mario games in art, music, and overall charm. BUT when talking purely about stage design, platforming...no, they have alot to learn I know i know, its hard for you guys to see past those pretty looks of rayman legends, i mean new super mario u looks so bland boring and lazy in comparison, but the gaameplay? Haha no sorry When a new kart racer comes out.... oh mario kart killer Playstation allstars.... oh its a smash bros killer Little big planet.... oh its a 3d mario killer I mean cmon just admit you guys are big haters when it comes to mario.... but please dont let that hate make you look dumb
The only negative is the music. They can't even create their own unique original music, they just copy former popular songs and add chipmunk voices to it. It's pathetic really. Everything else is awesome though. How many memorable Mario songs are there ? like 20-30 ? How many memorable Rayman songs are there ? None.
There are way more memorable Mario Songs then just 20
The new Mario on the Wii U literally had only one theme and it wasn't good. The only time the theme changed is when you went to a castle stage which that theme wasn't good either. You both make it seem like Mario games have Final Fantasy type of soundtracks, yeah, didn't get that same feeling from Mario soundtracks.
Thats funny I remember only the first level of the mario games, cause they are always the fucking same I remember every piece of music in rayman origins
Rayman is like a cross between Mario and more demanding platformers such as Super Meat Boy. It's a beautiful game with slick controls, but for better or worse, it definitely has a higher learning curve than the NSMB games. It plays a bit slower if you're going for full completion. The challenge reminds me of when I was trying to 100% Yoshi's Island back on the SNES.
I played loved Yoshi's island on Advance and still own it. A steeper learning curve can be a good thing to me if it means deeper mechanics and a richer experience. My Vita should be coming in the mail tomorrow and I can't wait to play this game (and many others) on that gorgeous oLED screen. So glad to be seeing more and more games like this.
Even though i'm a huge Rayman fan since the original i disagree any Mario fan know the controller is rock solid while rayman a little bit slippery . BUT i think Super Meat Boy is far better than both in control and challenge and for me this is most want for Vita
Yes. This game is an absolute stunner. It is an amazing game that deserves even MORE praise than it is recieving.
I felt the recent 2D Mario games weren't even that great for Nintendo who 2D games are their bread and butter. Donkey Kong country returns blows any "new" super Mario bros out of the water imo.
WTF, Every comment on this page makes me vomit. Rayman will NEVER EVER.....EVER be on Mario's level. I game on PC,PS3 and Wii BUT i can safely say Rayman struggles to touch many platformers that are around at the moment. YES Legends is good but struggles to get near the quality of Galaxy, Terreria,Castlevania:HoD and NSMB:U. Anyone who says Legends is better than any recent mario is a New School Fool.
The recent 2D Mario's have been trash. They're just rehashes. Deal with it.
@porkChop Have you ever played them or just watched some lets play on youtube the gameplay of Mario is what make the game ase 2D or 3D and make gamer wants more since 1985,the same goes to Megaman and Metroid.
Anger management program .. you need one !
LOL!! Chill out, let them have it man
I agree with you but it seems people where suprised by how good the art was. Its main technique is the digital painting look. It is done in 3d though... I was raving about that then. Mario had great style in mario 2 and 3... yet if they where to use the art in mario kart wiiu they could easily beat out rayman. If ubisoft was smart they would have another one ready to go soon. yet game play wise its no mario, even 3d mario on the 3ds is better... I see what people are saying and wiiu mario needs grander art and more themes. OPPS SORRY GOT TO GET BACK TO WORK!
Really now you ask that ? A few missteps asides (like the rabbids...) , Rayman was above mario from it's very first game .
You are 1 wasted piece of flesh. You deserve the Biggest-Fucktard-The-World-Has -Ever-Seen Award. Well done...take your prize. Its a cone shaped hat with a capital D on the front.
Woah ... I feel sorry for your friends with that attitude.
I feel sorry for his parents lol.
I disagree,Mario is becoming stale(the 2D one at least) since the Wii. But no way does Rayman ups earlier Mario games(3D or 2D).
I feel otherwise . Back in 95 when it came back on jaguar and pc Rayaman was imo better than the already excellent Yoshi island and on par with DK country . It's only real concurrents back then . People do forget how much of a technical 2d marvel the first rayman was , while being a tight and ultra challenging game .
I wouldn't say Rayman 1 or 2 were anywhere near the caliber of Mario World, 64 or Galaxy. But that's just me. Legends is debatable, but honestly I question how many people would have truly cared for it if it had not gone multiplatform.
Demo is so freaking beautiful and awesome, im watching my nephew play it right now on ps3.
Last week, my brother and I grabbed Rayman: Origins off the the Playstation store, went through the entire game, and transitioned seamlessly into Legends. To say we have been on a platforming overload would be an understatement. Great fun with couch co-op. Beat the games with a friend. The thoughts of what a next gen version can look like blows my mind.
Not sure if they out did them entirely, but I will say the music is way better.
I just wish rayman had tighter controls with a button run method the new mario's run loose as well, why can't they go back to the tight controls?
I do think so.
lol. Every platformer out "Mario'd" mario.
Agreed with the most recent one being Rayman Legends ;)
I have never had this much fun on a Mario game as I have Rayman Legends. It's beautiful, fun, social, and just all out amazing. It's something I will make my kids play one day.
considering that i loved origins and legends is more of origins but somehow better, then id have to say YES!!!
Braid Limbo Journey Rayman legends Have all been better platformers then any of the marios. To be more like Mario we would have to have Rayman: Racers! Limbo: Rainbow Gardens! Braid: Lost Clocks in Ocean Wonder! followed by a HD remake, followed by Braid: Co-op Brothers Escape! Shit now were talking.
I don't understand the comparison of the first three games you've listed with Mario 2D games. Rayman legends and origin is similar but journey, braid and limbo aren't.
Comparing the them to how theres 5 "new" mario spinoff games out each year? Or the simple fact that they are all platformers??
As they all have very different gameplay mechanics that aren't necessarily focused on pure 2D platforming.
Bubble for u my friend.
Journy? why compare 3D platformers with 2D Mario, then lets make the comparison fair, Mario Galaxy 1/2 obliterates all the games you listed.
Easily the best platformer I've ever played, it trashes Mario but in many ways it's for a different audience.
It depends on if we are talking about 2d Mario or 3d Mario. 2D Mario-Yes 3D Mario-nope
i think rayman legends is superior to many 2d mario games in several aspects, but it doesnt touch 3d mario at all.
Yeah sunshine was Such A Good Game like OMG
Get out troll. http://www.metacritic.com/g...
I'd argue that the 3D genre is completely different from the 2D genre. You just can't compare the two.
Yeah , mario galaxy is simply a masterpiece
After reading the comments here, I've come to the understanding that kids needs to be re-educated in video-games. Rayman will never, and I say never be on par with Mario. That's a fact. Now go to bed and dream all you want.
You state it as if it's a fact instead of being just something you're "attached to".
But it is a fact. I`m sorry to break it to you. If you want, we can have a really deep and detailed discussion. I can even use intertextual references to make you understand and accept the truth. I warn you though, it will be a hard and long road for your mentality.
Mario games still have a much more hard puzzle level than Rayman Legends,I played it a little & I almost finished Rayman Origins. That being said,it's true,recent Mario platformers are shallow compared to some new side scrolling games. I think the new Mario 3D game is gonna change that & hopefully a new side scrolling Mario game in the making will blow us away again.
How soon people have forgotten about "masterpieces" Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2. Those are 2 of the most critically acclaimed games of all time, and I don't think Rayman Legends has reached that level of quality yet.
Why do I have 4 disagrees when I'm merely stating fact? Oh brother...
Playing it now on my Vita. Im 31 and i have played my fair share of platformers in my day. This is by far the most ingenious, beautiful, fluid and love able one in many, many years.
On the Vita you poor soul =(
Yeah, he should have bought the 3DS version. He must be poor owning a Vita with those expensive memory cards. TheRElemecy should find a job and get a 3DS. He obviously has bad taste for not having a Nintendo handheld which comes with superior everything x10, poor sap. http://stop-micro-managemen...
@tongkatali He says it because the Vita version is the worst version missing over 28 levels.
Poor soul? If your referring to the missing content, its inbound. There's more than enough levels, and challenges to hold you over. If your referring to the Vita itself, i am fortunate enough to own every major console, and handheld currently on the marked (PC Rig as well) and truly love my Vita. Gonna love it even more on the 10th w KZ: Mercenary =]
@Lopez_Jozue-That's won't be the case anymore as Ubisoft confirmed it will release a patch that will bring the lost levels to the Vita, so pretty much TheRElement isn't really missing out on a lot anyways.
It doesn't touch Mario, lol, and Legends is actually a good step down from Origins.
Hell no. Rayman games are good but no way near Mario games.
Rayman legends is better than the latest 2d marios though ;)
Pff, I thought Rayman Origins was the best 2D platformer Yes, mario doesnt compete in my opinion, becaus it is original, while mario i feel is like the new COD Copy and paste last game
Outmariod 2d mario yes, but mario galaxy is a hard thing to top
Look, I like the fluidity of the visuals and movement in the Rayman 2D games but it's lacking in videogame history to derride Mario games - or any other platform games- against them. Super Mario World still stands up as highly enjoyable and visually just right today. And have a try on Castle of Illusion and Puppeteer and don't go on about Rayman quite so much.
Rayman is a kebab to Mario' steak. Sure, a kebab looks great and tastes delicious, but the meat inside is just not the same quality of a good steak. Eating too much of one or the other gets boring so it's great that we get a choice as to what we devour. Now I'm waiting to see if Sonic is going to finally become a tasty pizza and not like the Dominos garbage that it's been serving recently. Sorry, I've been fasting for an operation and I'm bloody starving!
A kebab with real meat you say? I think it`s a trick to play with your mind so you think it`s real meat.
mario is mario. mario is the originator and the real thing. all that came after mario were imitators. mario has what, 30 years of history. a history jammed packed with consistently high quality titles, among those, many of which are certified classics. i would even even go as far as to say culturally important. mario shaped the industry, dictated the entire direction of platforming games, provided a successful template on which all games after mario have copied. mario even ushered in a new era of 3d gameplay and set the standard by which most if not all platform/adventure 3d games originated and evolved from. to say rayman out-mario'd mario, is a stunning show of ignorance to history. only mario can out-do mario, in the same way that a copy of the mona lisa, will always be a copy of the mona lisa. mario is the real thing. but, i will say, as i have stated previously, this rayman game should serve as a wake up call to nintendo that, although marios formula is almost perfect, there are other elements that can be approved upon. aesthetics, art design, sound design etc it is my personal opinion that while mario once was at the forefront of art design along with game play, the former has been slipping drastically of late. rayman is a serious wake up call to nintendo that mario needs to look as beautiful as it plays.
In terms of production values ? Rayman Legends is the clear winner over New SMB U. I haven't played local co-op for Rayman yet, so I won't comment on it. However, in terms of level design and platforming, New SMBU is superior (basing on it being the last Mario game released). As much fun as I had with Rayman Legends, the game's level design just feels too choreographed at times. I mean, there's no room for the player to play the way they want to as far as the rest of the game's levels go ,which is what's so great about Mario games (even the bland New SMB series). That's really something that distinguishes the Mario games from other platformers. Anyway, we still have yet to see how well Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze and Super Mario 3D World turn out.
Couldn't agree more. Dont get me wrong, I purchased Rayman Legends only last week (on initial release) for my Wii U, thus far I have been thoroughly enjoying my time spent in what appears a feature packed game. However, come talk to me when Rayman (any game in the series) has reached the stellar heights which Mario games of the past (and future, fingers crossed) have achieved. Rayman Legends feels like an evolution of the genre, where as so many Mario games have taken the genre to pieces and built masterpiece after masterpiece.