Steam Survey: Most PC Gamers Have Weaker PCs Than PS4, Xbox One

Gaming Blend "Valve released a new survey for August detailing who is using what and how much. While a lot of the numbers aren't very surprising, the majority of the 50 million or so users of Steam seem to be slightly underpowered compared to what the next-gen consoles will be packing. "

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GDDR6_20142267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

In other news, most console gamers also have weaker consoles than ps4, Xbox one

And that won't change in 5 to 7 years

HammadTheBeast2267d ago

40% of PC gamers are also primarily League or DoTA players as well.

League runs on bad computers as well.

360ICE2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

No, 40% of PC gamers play Candy Crush and Farmville. Steam gamers are a different story. Different from City Story anyway.

JhawkFootball062267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )


Your comment makes no sense.

"Most console gamers also have weaker consoles than ps4, Xbox one"

- Well... yeah they are not released yet?

And what won't change in 5 to 7 years?

GDDR6_20142267d ago


I meant most console gamers will still have weaker consoles than ps4/xb1 in the next 5-7 years, ps4/xb1 is not going to outnumber ps3/360/wii anytime soon

Aggesan2267d ago

@GDDR6_2014 With that logic PS2 is still the most played console today. Doesn't make sense, does it?

minimur122267d ago

My mum has a steam acount..... she uses it to play peggle.

blackmagic2267d ago

It makes sense to me, all the multiplatform pc titles for the last 6-7 years have been designed to run on ps3/360 too so the min requirements have been pretty low. With the new consoles, we're going to suddenly see some pretty horsepower intensive games coming to market which will inspire many to upgrade imho.

Rifkens2266d ago

Exactly, when competitive play is concerned, max fps is all that matters

slayorofgods2266d ago

Its a monthly survey and better to just look up yourself here

The article skews the information a bit.
They left out graphics cards for some reason on this last survey but the last I checked the average power is something comparable to a ati 5770. I don't even know how you can write an entire article without that information.

There is also a good reason why the average pc specs are what they are. It's because people don't upgrade their computers if their pc's can handle current games.

Personally I've eyed new upgrades. But with current games and the fact they still play well on my current build I've had little reason for the extra power. The PC upgrades will likely happen fast once the PS4 and XBone launch because games will also advance at a faster pace.

Murad2266d ago

Dude, Dota 2 will rape your GPU, trust me. Just because LoL is easy to play doesn't mean Dota 2 is, or even Dota.

CheexInk2266d ago


Actually it makes perfect sense. The thing is they're lumping all PC gamers together. It's the same thing as lumping all console gamers together. What's the difference if I only play old PC games and haven't upgraded in 10 years vs only playing PS2 and having not bought a new console?

The point is that the statistics and the article don't really give you any valuable information on what the average hardware is for a PC gamer that is actually interested in modern releases.

starchild2266d ago

A lot of people that use Steam are a little more casual and they aren't going to upgrade their PCs unless they just can't play games.

That said, most of the kind of PC gamers that frequent game sites and waste time talking about games generally are the kind of gamers that have a good-to-amazing gaming PC.

Most of us hardcore PC gamers have much more powerful rigs.

In any case, I don't see why it matters. People have the choice on PC to get whatever power and performance that they want. That's one of the beautiful things about PC gaming: we're not stuck with a one-size-fits-all approach.

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joe902267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

32 million League of Legends players

25 million Counter Strike sold

7 million Dota 2 sold

8 million World of Warcraft players

4 million Football Manager 2013 sold

All these games can be played on a laptop from your local PC store and are the most popular games played on PC. Also Steam is not locked on our computers like consoles to make sure we only buy there products, PC is open sourced, we can buy our games from anywhere and don't have to have steam rammed down our throat like XB/PS firmware.

Also i checked the stats, all that hardware is full hardware NOT mobile chips what the consoles are using.

stuff2267d ago

Somebody is in hate mode. Calm down buddy. PC gamers are cool too.

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wsoutlaw872267d ago

on the majority of big titles now a days steam is forced on you with its drm. That or Origin. I wouldn't really call psn/xbl "rammed down our throat", its os so enjoy that windows thats rammed down your throat. You came up with a stupid argument that seems to be trying to defend what the article is stating. Why get mad at what others have in there pc. If you dropped more money to have better hardware than you then congrats, but not everyone wants to do that.

joe902267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

LOL wsoutlaw87

You think Windows is the only PC OS. Good luck changing your console OS.

T22267d ago

Ya except Joe ive seen you use "Sony piss stinking peasant " before ... So why not admit its how u feel

Deltaguy2267d ago

can't you have multiple accounts on LOL

stuff2267d ago


PC fanboys are by far the funniest of us all. You're like the kid that gets mad because nobody wants to fight you. So you go rage in a corner all on your own.

If you're going call me out for having nothing to say, please take the high road. I was merely trying to say that there is no reason for having such an angry tone.

People are going to game on PC and people are going to game on consoles. Those are some good points you made, although a bit skewed. The bottom line is this, there is another generation of console gaming on the way and nothing anyone can do will stop it. Consoles, thanks to many of those same reasons you listed, are safer for developers and they are more convenient for most users.

ZBlacktt2267d ago

In a nutshell. Trying to justify spending so much to game. Yet, can't do it for $399 TOTAL.

H0RSE2266d ago

Ummm, PC gamers enjoy all the extra things you can do with a PC besides gaming, as well as the versatility that comes with being able to swap and upgrade hardware. They also enjoy the extra features the games and/or community offer, like mods and other user-made content. In a nutshell, when comparing PC to console, you get what you pay for.

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andrewsqual2267d ago

Noooooo, no this is false. Has to be false, nawwwwwwww.

awi59512267d ago

Not me i have 2 PS4 gpu's and a cpu with twice the speed.

kingPoS2266d ago

I've got nothing against gaming on pc's. But for a guy like me on budget, I just can't justify spending over $800 to piece together a gaming pc.

To be honest I'm still using Vista on my 09' laptop with 2gb of ram. Why... Because it's still in good condition and plays my MKV's well enough... that and it somehow grew on me.

Why do some people like old outdated cars?

By maintenance, I meant the rigs with overclocked liquid cooled chips. If you run them that hard they're bound to break. Flip side - Most average pc's only need dusting & defragmentation.

guess i was too dramatic earlier huh lol

kingPoS2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

Ahh yes! The illustrious ultra gaming PC. I've heard tales of annual maintenance costs averaging around $299. (I hear that liquid cooled goodness doesn't last forever)

I suppose for the time being I'll have to rely upon my apparently weak console. What ever will I do when the next generation consoles arrive in November?

awi59512266d ago (Edited 2266d ago )


Are console guys really this petty? You can't match PC give up already. Used PC parts on ebay that go for dirt cheap will out perform consoles its just too easy to upgrade off ebay and amazon for you guys to keep deluding yourself. I bought graphics cards off ebay that were brand new that equal the new console GPU's off ebay for $150.

I just bought 7850's for 150 dollars dirt cheap off there 2GB versions brand new. Now my sister has a dual 7850 2GB with a 3.6 hex core cpu for less than 400 dollars because i build Pc's all the time and i have motherboards,cases, and power sources everywhere, leftovers from old builds. Let's take bets on which will have the higher FPS at 1080P on ultra settings i bet it still wins.
Maintenance costs???? I dont know what the crap you are talking about lol. You may have a part crap out but they fix that crap for free lol.

Old PC parts are like currency you can easily trade them for money on ebay. Its like a old Car the parts individually is worth more that the whole car. I sell my old parts for a major profit more than enough to buy all the upgrades i want. I always make money when i part out my Pc on ebay then build a new one from the cash i earn and i still have a little profit left over.

AngelicIceDiamond2267d ago

Lol my X1 and PS4 will be stronger than allot of peoples PC's.

Lisica2266d ago

Doubt it. PS4 is not out yet.
When you buy a PS4, most people will have stronger PC.

gazgriff2k122267d ago

NOW PC elites please shut th e f**k up and enjoy your superior P.C's

awi59512266d ago (Edited 2266d ago )

How about you shut up! Console people are the ones that keep comparing yourself to the master race.

And @ NatureOfLogic

Who the crap answers surveys, no one does i certainly didnt get one and my pc runs everything on ultra and i have a steam account. Since there are 4 million people on steam on the weekends im guessing most didnt get the survey i know i didnt .

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NatureOfLogic2267d ago

*grabs popcorn* But I thought every PC gamer have beast rigs. I guess not.

JsonHenry2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

Not everyone who has steam installed uses it solely on their gaming rigs. When I did my steam survey I did it from a work laptop. I have it installed on there so when I am out and about I can still chat with my friends on Steam and play some of the indie games that are not resource hogs.

Also- not everyone has a gaming rig period. I know a lot of people that have old PCs that only have steam to play older Counter Strike games and free games like Dota2 which do not need a beefy machine to play.

360ICE2267d ago

*also grabs popcorn*
That's so weird, because I actually did my Steam survey from an incredibly powerful super computer we have in a research lab near my house. So I guess that evens that out.

The Great Melon2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

Steam always likes to ask me to do the surveys on may secondary computers rather than my main gaming machine. That always annoys me to no end. Is there anyway to initiate the survey yourself?

Murad2266d ago

Dude, try playing an indie title called Miner Wars, and my God, that game is probably the biggest hog ever.

JsonHenry2266d ago (Edited 2266d ago )

@ The great Melon- I have the same problem. It always asks me to test on my Laptop or a work PC I happen to be using. I never care enough to bother looking and seeing if I can initiate it from my gaming rig but I am sure there is probably a way to do so.

@ Murad, yes. I've read that game is not very optimized. But I was talking more like Anodyne, UnEpic, or Deadlight.

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sonarus2267d ago

Considering that those heavy gaming rigs are in the 2000-4000 dollar range, i think not

Foxgod2267d ago

1500 Us dollars, or 1200 Euro will get you a high end rig.

For 2000 ~ 4000 is overkill, systems for people who like to have a big e penis, but adds nothing to the game but a higher fps, which is already 50+ on highest settings on a 1200 rig.

FlameBaitGod2267d ago

4 thousand dollars on a gaming rig...... are you talking about the 1 made out of gold ? cus If not then you are way off.

OrangePowerz2267d ago


If you want to play high end games (BF, Metro, Crysis and a small amount of other games) on ultra with high resolution (far above 1080) 1 500 wouldn't cut it as GPUs (SLI or crossfire) would roughly cost you 800-1000 alone.

T22267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

Check prices in Canada, a beast rig wilk run you a good 1500 ... Im actually in debt to Sony and ms for price equality in Canada for first time ever ... Its a big deal ...the dollar has been parity forever and we get fd on electronics , cars, books, everything

Feralkitsune2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

@OOrange a 660ti alone can ultra those games at 1080p. You're crazy. I have a 660ti, at stock clock, since I don't bother with overclocking and the games all run fine for me at 1920x1200.

Hell, even ARMA 3 at ultra settings at that res.

Proof:video from my TTV stream:

awi59512267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

NO PC that can run all games on ultra should cost 1500 lol. IF i built my dream PC with dual graphics cards it wouldnt cost anywhere that much. Let me put it this way i built my sister a pc and me a pc and it didnt cost that much. My pc has dual 7950's my sister has dual 7850's.

awi59512267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )


Dual 7850 2GB runs metro last light on ultra at 1080P at 45 to 30 fps but thats with a weak cpu in my sisters pc. My dual 7950's run it fine. Also guys i have another set of 7850's i was going to use for a build for a friend i think i will put them up on Ebay for 300(since hes broke now and cant pay) if you want to look out for them im going to put them up on sale.

Lisica2266d ago

What the hell do I do with $4000 PC?
I play everything on maximum with my $800 PC.
(BF3 works like a charm)

Murad2266d ago

Dude, you're insane. My system can run every game, including Battlfield 3 on ultra settings, and it barely costed me a total of 1,200. If you think 2,000 is a high end machine, you must be one of those that buys AMD 5.0 ghz branded items.

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ProjectVulcan2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

At this stage in the console lifecycles part of the point is you don't even need a beast rig to smash the current consoles silly.

At the transition of the new consoles, you are only talking maybe 15-25 million new generation consoles sales in the first year, and probably as many people upgrading their PCs every year to make sure they stay ahead of the game. So by the time next gen consoles have serious market share after a couple years, PC technology is out of sight again.

But this year there isn't much need to have a beast PC to run games over and above anyone with a console.

Typically the consoles have one year where they can get near a decent PC (the year they cost the most to buy themselves...) and then afterwards they slide further and further behind rather quickly.

The difference in this transition however is that clearly, these new consoles are actually slower relative to good PC hardware than any generation before.

Its never been easier and cheaper to build a gaming PC that can outmatch a next gen console that isn't even in the shelf yet....

cyguration2267d ago

Dang, and this is why you have so many bubbles. Well said, sir. Have a bubble for an intelligent comment.

OrangePowerz2267d ago

I think the consoles now are closer to the PC in power now compared to last gen. In 2004 I was playing on PC Far Cry and when the current consoles came out the games where miles away to compete with that. If you look at Forza 5, Killzone Shadow Fall or inFamous Second Son, they are much closer in graphics to whay you get on PC now. Consoles profit from PC hardware having now smaller improvements every year compared to 7-10 years ago when the improvements in hardware have been bigger.

The time consoles are closest to the PC is in the middle when the devs get more out of the hardware. The early years they get used to the hardware and in the late years the hardware difference is too big because by then consoles have 7-8 year old hardware.

ProjectVulcan2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

OrangePowerz- well you're wrong.

Also you haven't actually played any of those finished games yet on finished hardware.

I can't honestly say hand on heart that I have seen anything that looks any better than what PC was capable of doing a couple years back e.g 2011 games- Battlefield 3 on ultra, The Witcher 2, Crysis 2 etc fogive me if I'm wrong, but isn't Battlefield 4 on PS4, the most powerful next gen console, unlikely to even be in native 1080p?? WTFF???.

The gap is bigger than it has ever been, these new consoles are the slowest new consoles relative to current existing PC hardware than any generation before, easily.

The consoles are closest performance wise the second they launch, that much is obvious. Beyond this period, they fall further and further behind. The constant march of technology my friend.

You can ALREADY get much faster PC components to what is inside the new consoles particularly the GPU, This was never possible when 360 launched (at the end of 2005. Far cry PC pre dated X360 by over 18 months so your comparison is somewhat flawed). This phenomenon is a direct result of the manufacturers no longer trying to build the fastest consoles and take the loss like in the past.

I agree its about a year before a developer really gets to grips with new console hardware, but by then typically PC hardware has already moved the goalposts which was my point.

By the time Xbone and PS4 are a year old, mainstream PC stuff will be pretty much as fast as a Geforce Titan is now. All this stuff now thats already way faster than the consoles like a GTX770, 7970ghz etc will be relegated to merely midrange in the pecking order (and price hierarchy).

Less than a year from the day these machines launch in November. I guarantee that.

OrangePowerz2266d ago

DICE isn`t a console dev as we can see in BF3 because the console version of BF3 is not the best looking game on either console.

I don`t know why people keep comparing hardware always directly between console and PC. You get way more out of the same hardware on consoles compared to a PC. On a PC you cannot run anything with the specs from the current gen consoles because it wouldn`t even boot up the OS with a lousy 512MB RAM and a GPU that was already at launch very bad in the case of the PS3 or a bad CPU in the case of the 360.

ProjectVulcan2266d ago (Edited 2266d ago )

DICE actually started out on the Amiga, then became better known for their PC titles. But I don't believe you can claim they aren't a multiplatform and thus console dev, they have been building games across all those platforms for ages now.

Really I only talked about relative performance to a PC, the key word was relative. Relatively, next gen consoles are much further behind performance wise to higher end hardware than Xbox 360 ever was when it launched.

Consoles might be more efficient and PC might use brute force to beat them, but then thats connected to my point about how PC hardware really is that much faster than new consoles before they are even out.

By the time anyone has got a good grip on these new consoles after a year PC gamers will be buying graphics card that cost less than $200 that comprehensively beat them.

It'll just not matter that the average PC is slower now, because that is always evolving as newer console user bases slowly build up.

When 360 launched everybody had single core pentiums/athlons and 7600GTs. 2 years after everybody had some sort of dual core and 8800 class card which battered 360. Yet this was all the while 360 was a machine with a cutting edge GPU. I wouldn't precisely call any of these consoles cutting edge....

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Cuzzo632267d ago

Yea I thought so too. @jsonHenry so alot of pc guys use laptops or multiple rigs but only use the weaker for steam? Ooookay...

why not sell the old rig for a new gfx card

aquamala2267d ago


because that old rig or laptop is perfectly fine for some indie games and older games.

Sci0n2267d ago

Yea every single PC gamer has the ultimate gaming rig. The PC elitist present the stats in almost every debate they have.

BLow2267d ago

Shh, obviously this can't be true. Reading the comments on here you would think that though right? All fanboys are all the same no matter what platform they cling too. People just need to enjoy games shit and not worry about what system or (apparently beast PC because this is not the truth story) someone else is playing on. It seems like this crap will get old after awhile but some of you need to feed your egos I guess to make yourself feel better. Meanwhile, how about we play some games.......

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Foxgod2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

Why wasnt i part of that survey?
Because my I7 is a lot more powerful.

Smoovekid2267d ago

PC elitists blame consoles for holding PC gaming back but not everyone has a $1,000 PC to game on.

Foxgod2267d ago

I think its bull, consoles dont hold anything back, consoles simply get a watered down version of what has been developed for pc.

Thats how its always been.

BitbyDeath2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

If that were the case then PC would already be getting nextgen games with graphics like the division or infamous second son. PC gets slightly better looking console games, generally modders have to do the work to bring in much better graphics.

Foxgod2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

Games like Crysis 3 and Metro Last light already looked next gen on pc.

cyguration2267d ago


Yeah, just look at games like Black Desert Online and Star Citizen, or even TERA before them. Many of the non-console ports already look like stuff coming to PS4 and XB1.

BitbyDeath2267d ago

@cyguration, two of those games aren't released yet, so of course they would look next-gen. TERA is not on the same level as the other two. I'm not saying PC won't get next-gen games, obviously they will. But PC has been waiting for next-gen consoles before upping the quality.

cyguration2267d ago


Oh yeah, I also forgot about Rigs of Rod, Project CARS, the Outerra Engine, BeamNG's racing game and the Brigade Engine prototypes.

NioRide2267d ago

Don't forget about modding on games like skyrim, with a few texture mods, a nice ENB, and some added forests and details the game looks better than anything advertised on the ps4 and xbone anyways.

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MysticStrummer2267d ago

I've been saying this for a long time.

People with gaming PCs won't admit they are a small percentage of the total PCs in the world. Most PC games are being played on stock machines that are at least a year or two old, and if they're upgraded at all they have some extra memory or some other relatively minor upgrade.

Foxgod2267d ago (Edited 2267d ago )

Oh, il admit, because hey, even console owners are a small % in the world (300 million out of 7+ billion people), so game pc owners are an even smaller %.

Rainstorm812267d ago

Nice way to be a condesending asshole