OmniGamer looks back that the 180 Microsoft pulled with the Xbox One, and thanks them for correcting their previous mistakes.
Indeed, i'm glad because now i don't have to miss out on games for the best part of a decade (wasn't gonna buy with the DRM policies).
It's insane region locking was the worst part honestly.
Im looking forward to the Xbox One now, but there's no way Im saying "Thank you for making things the way they should have been from the start". Microsoft should be thanking people for accepting all those reversals, not the other way around
@Abash I completely agree.
Should have been 'thank you sony'
Should have been "Thank you gamers for voicing your concerns that cause the 180" Microsoft was still going to go through with the DRM and used game crap regardless what Sony did. Only when fellow gamers started voicing their concerns and threaten to not buy the XB1, did Microsoft haul ass and started turning the other way.
@YNWA96 im so glad you only have 1 bubble. although i liked their old policy. , it was a little too ahead of its time. maybe 10 years down the road when almost everybody would have affordable internet & stuff. digital only is definitely the future of gaming. its less of a hassle too. but as i said its ahead of its time.. the time isnt right.
Again with you people and the defending of this anti consumer BS....NO none of those restrictions were needed for a "digital" future...The digital future is already here..The PS3 has been offering 99% of games day 1 digital for a few years now and it didn't require them fisting your rectum to do so....Day 1 digital is also going to be 100% available on the PS4 without requiring them fisting your rectum...... NONE of it was necessary, it was all about MS seeing how far their customer base would allow them to go. It was never needed and never essential to offering games digitally, they just assumed that people would still throw their money at them and it failed..... Those restrictions were not the future of gaming or groundbreaking and innovative, it was just all about MS controlling YOU....And yet the Xbots are too brain dead to see that, I swear Nintendo fanboys are the most fanatical while Microsoft has the fanboys with the lowest IQs that are borderline retarded.....Again NOTHING they wanted to to innovative, groundbreaking or the future of gaming. Not when Sony offers digital NOW on 99% of games and 100% of games with the PS4 and Nintendo also same thing 99% of Wii U games are available digitally without fisting you to do so
@deadpooli so you wouldnt want to give your digital rights to more than 2 people? & wouldnt you want to trade your digital rights just as you do now with physical copies? tell me is that possible now on console?
I think much of the disapproval towards their initial polices, had to do with the negative stigma tied to DRM in general. The mere mention of the term in the gaming realm, is likened to bringing up Satan's name in church... even if MS introduced some really cool and innovative polices, the mere mention of "DRM" would have immediately turned off many people, with no way of convincing them otherwise - it's like a taboo. It appears that the community simply is not interested in such radical changes, and would be much happier with a "bare bones" approach to consoles, that just lets them play their games with higher framerates and prettier visuals, and offering little if anything else new. The neutering of MS's initial polices, essentially turned the the Xbox One into Xbox 360 2.0.
Pray tell, what policies were cool or innovative? Anything you name I can name a service or feature already available on PC since probably 2005 (which is exactly what the original Xbox One and its policies looked like, a DRM-laden PC from 2005). The only thing anyone falls back to was family-sharing and digital license trades (which is already available on Greenman Gaming or if you allow for remote account sharing in Steam). There were a lot of radical changes but NONE of them offered anything remotely positive for gamers in the long run. Games tied to servers, check-ins, limited trades, retailer-approval used games, the option of used game fees by approved-retailers and forced installations were just terrible, terrible. The only people praising the Xbox One's original features were people who NEVER gamed on PC or were absolute die-hard fanboys. Microsoft needs to first look at what's making GOG and Steam successful and then imitate that without all the restrictions and stepping-back-in-time to rekindle DRM PC gamers have fought long and hard to get removed from the gaming arena.
I wasn't implying that their feature were or were not cool or innovative - I was simply stating that even if they were, people still wouldn't care due to the stigma tied to DRM. Like I said, DRM itself is not bad, it's how you use it. Oh, and I have been gaming for over 25 years, from everything to casual to competitive, and most of that is on PC, and I didn't have a problem with X1's initial policies. - I don't trade in games - I don't buy used games - My internet is always on anyway, and I already play game that require a connection
The only answer they ever have to which of those restrictions or old policies were so great is always the game stealing, I mean sharing...Cause they don't get that there was NO way MS or a publisher was going to let you share a full game amongst 9 of your friends..... But of course since Xbots are borderline retarded MS can lie and say oh yes it was all true it was going to be all rainbows and unicorns and they are stupid enough to believe it
I've had absolutely NO problem whatsoever partaking in this digital future NOW...I have at least 60 FULL RETAIL PS3 games on my HDD and purchasing them did not require I let Sony Fist me with DRM and restrictions.... You people don't seem to grasp that Sony has been offering 99% of games digital day 1 and have confirmed 100% digital day 1 with the PS4, Nintendo has been offering Day 1 digital also, and neither of them want to screw you over to do so...This was all about MS controlling your purchases and nothing more, they wanted to see how far the could go in controlling your purchases. NONE of it was ever necessary, innovative, groundbreaking or the future of gaming
exactly, it is unbelievable that idiots actually bought into that shit. Even die hard xbox fans were willing to admit x1 was garbage, and either switched to ps4 or waited till the 180 to change their minds. I dont know what it takes for a fanboy to stick by them with the policies they planned to implement.
DRM turned off people because its not a good idea
and then people turned DRM off.
DRM itself is not an issue, it's how it's implemented and whether or not technology is ready to properly support it. DRM has many forms, and both this and next gen systems utilize it in different forms.
DRM means one thing to me: trying to take ownership of my games from me and giving control to greedy publishers. It is not how you implement, its the whole concept behind it.
PS+ has all those games you can download for free. The catch? You need to be subscribed to PS+ to be able to play them. Once you stop paying, you stop playing. It's like Netflix - you have access to all the movies in their library and can watch them as often as you like - as long as you have a subscription. When you stop paying for PS+ and are essentially "locked out" of your games, this is a form of DRM. When you need to have the disk in the console to play it, even if you installed the game to the HDD, this is a form of DRM. You are entitled to think what you want and be as anti-DRM as you want to be, but do be aware that both consoles will be using forms of DRM, whether it be attached to the consoles themselves or the services they offer.
Thanks to sony they performed a 180... Hopefully they still make another u turn and sell kinectless versions because i don't need kinect for anything really. XBOX OFF
Credit where credit is due an it does takes courage to admit you miscalculated consumer mood. The only thing left to haul M$ up on is are they sincere and will they try to re introduce there questionable policies in the future. What has really has been outed his how many people were willing to apologize on behalf of M$ for every stroke they tried to pull!
Need a release date soon or people will just move to ps4.
People can't move to PS4. It's already over-populated as it is. They're gonna have to start kicking people out soon.
Nah, there's always room for more. Ten million by christmas, after all.
I still wish they hadn't changed.
And I'm glad they weren't in tune to your wishes.
Credit where credit is due? Microsoft given their history doesnt deserve credit for any of this. The campaigns against the draconian policies implemented by Microsoft, the gaffers that started the push, the gamers both Xbox and Sony that said enough is enough and started the overwhelming Ps4 pre orders are to thank. Had Microsoft felt comfortable with their sales projections given pre orders they would have never changed their stance it was gamers talking with their wallets and pre orders that did, sorry but Microsoft gets no thanks from me. If anything thank the competition and thanx fellow gamers for sticking to your guns and wobbling an abusing giant that now knows they are not invincible.
Definitely the educated choice between the two systems is the PS4. I do not trust a company that was as anti-consumer as they could be until the entire world blew up on them. With that said, the 180 was a win for gamers, and at least the console is something i for one would consider buying in the future once it gets some great exclusives.
I dont dispute that the 180 was good for gamers, i dispute giving Microsoft thanx because honestly they didn't change due to a kind heart but because pressure busts pipes!
@netgengaming_pr good point
It would have been bad for some people if they had kept some of those plans, I don't see it being a bad thing to change for the better, so they should get credit for that at least
For some? I think you mean the majority. For the better? Well that is your opinion. I'm just glad that the majority has a different opinion than you.
Yeah, it is my opinion and I do know of some people that would have liked to have the xbox one the way it was introduced. I was not expressing how big the divide is between those who are for the new changes vs those who were willing to take it as it was.
I am buying a ps4 because of the games. PS2 and PS3 had much better games than their xbox counterparts, and i dont expect that to change next gen. With that said, I loved my 360 and am appreciative that microsoft made the 180 and changed their console into something that i would be willing to buy in the future some time.
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