From Gameplayer... "Rockstar has, deliberately or not, undermined Microsoft's chances of not only shipping a bucket-load of consoles, but potentially from coming out on top of the console wars."
Well from the looks of it, they don't but there is still 2 weeks for them to reveal any bundle plans.
I don't think rockstar is deliberately undermining msoft. GTA is hot $hit and msoft worked a deal for DLC and sony worked a deal for something else. It appears to be a bundle so...whooopdidooo
Has anyone else noticed Microsoft has just gone quite on GTA4 end. I mean they were screaming there throats off last year that the complete experience is on the 360, but like since the last month, especially after GDC they have just gone silent. May be they realized its not the system seller for xbox360 and may be they are looking forward to Gears and Fable to become there system seller. So many conspiracy theories:P
Microsoft got the taste of their own medicine , they wanted to screw over the PS3 owners with their anti-consumer and unethical bribe , now karma is bitting them in the a$$
If it's exclusive then it's definitely a blow to MS in spite of everything they've done. But they don't have to steal anything away from Sony. They need to press their base to buy the game which will suit them just fine.
M$ screwed themselves, they did what they always do, threw truckloads of money around hoping they could buy their sucess. Next they will be forcing Rockstar to submit (Sell) themselves to M$. Because thats what they do best, buy out the competition.
And the reason why M$ is so quiet is because the bread and butter of M$ AKA Vista is in turmoil. Their spending their immediate recourses on salvaging that and trying to buy out Yahoo, since they can't compete with Google.
HOW ABOUT GRAND THEFT AUTO EVERY YEAR BE BASED OFF A DIFFERENT CITY IN THE US. GTA SEATTLE, GTA N.Y, GTA, D.C ECT. AND THEN GO OVERSEAS. GTA HONG KONG, THAILAND ETC....
can and would take-two(who are the publisher, not rockstar!) stop microsoft from saying to retailers "bundle gta with a 360 for x amount"?????????? i don't think so somehow! it would be up to microsoft how much they want to lose on each sale to give a game with the console! take-two will still earn the same with every game that sells, regardless if it's on it's own, or bundled with a console!
to think otherwise seems naive and a bit stupid imo!
I think we have to wait at least a week after the launch before we can properly judge Microsoft on their push for GTA.
Though i think maybe MS feel the more they advertise GTA, the more they are hurting themselves by pushing even more PS2 owners to buying into the PS3 for that experience.
Its Rockstar are screwing Ms by making an exc Gta bundle to the Ps3. Make up your'e mind people it looks like what ever happens with this bundle Ms can't win. Typical of this site evn though Ms are getting the better version with dlc its some how been turned around to be Sony win due to increased hardware sales due to a "supposed exc bundle"
Ill bet a large wad of cash that both consoles will have bundles for this game whether it be official or unofficial. Its the biggest game release of the year do you really think either company are not gonna cash in on the opportunity.
As for Gta4 selling better due to it being viewed synonomous with the Ps franchise i think is very short sighted. If you look at the sales for Dmc4(1.09=ps3, 0.9=360)on both consoles i think it shows that everyone already knows that you can get Ps exc on the 360.
But why am i posting this the point of this site isn't to have discussions based in reality. its there to find articles and post comments that make the 360 look bad and the ps3 look good. I was suprised when that 360 has the superior version article got approved must be an exception to the genreal trend.
i remember reading the microsoft were desperate for doing a gta bundle, now sony are potentially doing one it's all well and good. this site really is the dish the dirt on the 360 site.
the average joe wont think it's a playstation game, they will just see that it's on both systems and like you said, they will continue to see that once playstation exclusives are available on both systems now!
Even if you bought anew Xbox360 and GTAIV outright, it will cost you less than buying a PS3...
They are counting on the consumer being cheap, and if that's the case, the Xbox360 is still cheaper...
And if a large number of those people knwo about the exclusive future content for the XBOX 360 version, I find it hard to believe a PS3 bundle is going to be a deal breaker.
We'll have to watch and see... It's hard for me to speculate on how the general public will respond... I would have never guessed that the Wii would do as well as it has... People are unpredictable, so let's wit and watch.
"make up your mind people".....right, so two completely different people post two different articles and you get annoyed? or do you think everyone else on N4G except you is the same person? If you dont want to read an article. Dont.
I agree, I think for a while M$ has been more agressive saying things like Madden will run better on thier system and they will own GTA4's Launch. I think lately Sony has been pulling off some smart moves by releasing GT prologue, DS3, MGS beta and a psn store update all before the release of GTA4.
we've all been saying "where are the games?" and now its about to be crazy. my list goes as follows:
next week - MGS4 Online Beta, GT5P, Operation: Broken Mirror, and whatever else they have planned. April 29 - GTA4 May 15 - Bionic Commando Rearmed (oldie but goodie) May 20 - Haze (maybe.......) June 2- Civilization Revolution (the one PC game i really really liked) June 12 - MGS4 (you guys won't see me till its flipped)
and who knows what surprises we'll see in the time in between those releases. i'm already in the Home Beta, so i'm hoping they'll start adding the final touches (trophy room, in-game XMB, uploading video, ect.) and letting more people in. i'm really interested to see what everyone thinks about it.
i've been thinking about getting another 360, but with so many good game coming on PS3 i don't think i'd have the time (or money) for everything. now add the fact the the gunmetal PS3 is coming and i'm thinking of buying it for my bedroom tv.
sony has done good of late. i think they've really turned a corner.
EDIT: @GutZ31......
YIKES!!! who is that theMart's gf?!?!...............jk
i think i see her red rings of death :0
EDIT 2: why can't i uploads pics? i haven't been able to since the newer site launched.
I really find it hard to believe M$ will not have a gta bundle in the U.S at least, unless Sony made some kind of deal.
lol...at the pic. haha thats awesome.
That an Australian gaming website is saying someone else is screwed.
...I think that's it for now, it's late