5 reasons why Sony won't lose the next-gen console war

No home console maker (excluding handhelds) has ever dominated three generations of video games. None. Is there a 10-year or two-term incumbent cycle in the biz? Game Daily doesn't think so offering an opinion piece on why Sony won't lose the next-gen war in terms of market share. From the article: "Despite [recent] setbacks and all the negative press the company has garnered over the last six or so months, when it's all said and done the PlayStation 3 will be No.1 worldwide, although not as dominant as the PS2 has been."

[Deceased]

You can thaw bagels and fry eggs on it!

[Scythesean]

I believe that is you can't fry eggs but you can thaw a bagel on it. BTW atleast you don't have to worry about it burning down your house.

[Scythesean]

"You sir are a donkey fu@ker! "

No that honor goes to the guy I used to work with in my last job. Oh wait is that you?

[uxo22]

Who cares who wins the so called Next-Gen war as long as we (the consumer) get some quality products from it. Neither Sony or M$ are paying any of my bills, so I say, keep competing, creating more innovative properties, and reducing prices. In the end, the winner of the Console war will be us!

[frostbite06]

You seriously might be able to thaw bagels on it though.

[Tut]

Yeah, thawing bagels will be useful for me and that is no joke.

Seriously though, that was a good recap of everything Sony so far. I know a bajillion "fanboys" will be flaming this first chance they get, but whatever they do it on every article.

They mentioned a lot of things that do set the PS3 apart from other consoles and it's father console, the PS2. I share the same opinions as they do but there are some factors that can come into play that would make things come to a different conclusion. I, for one, am extremely excited for 11/17. Not only because the PS3 releases but my birthday is three days later on the 20th! YEAH!!!

Anyway, good read but certainly nothing to grasp to as fact or prophecy. Still good though.

[BIadestarX]

I said it before. The PS3 may still have more market share than microsoft in 2-3 years. But this does not mean they will be profitable. Or if they will have enough fuel for the next gen. Microsoft knows this is a long term thing. They being digging a hole on Sony's marketshares since the original xbox. It is a lot better to gain market share than to lose marketshare. Microsoft can only gain; thats makes it a success if you ask me. If microsoft get more marketshare this time arround and profit from it. And if Sony gets to profit from the PS3 even if they lose marketshare than everyone wins, they are happy, we are happy, and we all can look foward to see Sony and Microsoft competing again with the PS4 and the Xbox 720.

[12Volt]

They being digging a hole on Sony's marketshares since the original xbox... not true.. since Halo. ;D

[power of Green]

Got to love these comfort articals. "Stay the course". Sony will be behind MS untill Xbox720, they just can't make the PS3 fast enough and even if Sony were able to cut the price of the PS3 soon enough MS's lineup will be to powerful to keep people from buying 360's. Then the PS3 will be out dated by the time it pulls ahead of the 360. lol

[o0o ROZZA o0o]

We will just have to wait and see wont we. We can all keep guessing but that would be just guessing wouldnt it. The truth is we wont know who won this war until the next one starts in 5 yrs time when the next next gen consoles come out!

[BrotherSic]

Maybe it wont be in 5 years time though, MS could easily afford to release consoles every 3 - 4 years. I could definatly see that happening if the 360 turns out to be as powerful as the PS3.

In terms of the article, i agree with the brand but not sure about slow sales of the 360, online ability or Blue ray points. These are all things that we cant really judge until the PS3 is released

[DreDawgg06]

And im glad he wrote reasons why it wont lose, which is true but it wont win the war either..

[videl]

ps3 all the way, 5 months to wait, thats much !!! i want it now, so badly !!! has anyone an idea how i can get one ( i live in germany ), bofore march.

[Grown Folks Talk]

have been able to get 1 from lik sang. not anymore.

[highps3]

lol good honest article. 360 killed itself litterally. they have to many dead consoles and no response from them or members except "buy the warranty"!

Also whats with the lag online even though you pay 50 a year?

4 years of gaming thats 200 bucks for pratically nothing.. A achievement score that will disappear with the next gen of consoles.

Ps3 has its problems but its all media, nothing about the console itself has been wrong.

Its quite, runs smoothly, has a solid launch lineup, etc..

At 499.00 with HDMI its the best deal out. You cant even get a 360, LIVE membership and a warranty for that much.

[DG]

I bought a 360 and Im contempt with my decision. Was never a fan but I needed something to hold me over till the PS3 is available and drops in price So 2008 it is for me.

[TheMART]

And you think the launch PS3's won't have problems of overheating ones?

Be real. Every cutting edge hardware has problems with the first shipments. With PS3 it will be even worse as Sony has far worse producing problems then MS has back then

[big_tim]

There will be problems with the PS3 launch. I doubt that the same problems will happen. They have already gone to great lengths to control the heat problem. Launch hardware problems happen almost without fail. New machine equals initial problem. That is why I got the warranty with my 360 and I am on my 3rd unit now. If I manage to get a hold of a PS3 at launch, I will definitely get a warranty because I am expecting problems from launch hardware. It sucks to have to expect it, but I know that it will happen. Nintendo, on the other hand, I doubt will have any substantial problems. They seem to be the most reliable company when it comes to launch hardware.

[satanslilh3lp3r]

mart, while it is inevitable for some ps3's to have overheating/other problems, (these will be due to manufacturing errors, while the 360's problems were in faulty parts, rushing, and manufacturing) it will have far, far less than the 360 did, because sony has spent this extra year fixing any and all problems that might have arisen if the ps3 launched when the 360 did.

[12Volt]

First things first.. theMart, you're an idiot. 2. The first shipment is being brought to you by Asus, ask your friendly IT manager if they're good: http://www.neoseeker.com/ne...

3. Sony is an Electronics Giant with 60+ years of manufacturing experience.

4. you're an idiot once again.

5. MS is so stinking rich and you aint getting a single dime for their loyalty so stop talking out your arse please, because your breath stinks like...

6. PS3 = Quality.

7. Xbox360 / Powerbrick + $200 HD AddOn + $50XBL + 60 decibals of noise+ 20GigHD + Minimal Backwards Compatibility + No 1080p Gaming + Bill Gates Blessing = Xbox fanboy like theMart. < The PS3

Thanks theMart for once again making an arse out of yourself

[Antan]

"First things first.. theMart, you're an idiot. 2. The first shipment is being brought to you by Asus, ask your friendly IT manager if they're good"

Mart would never consult such people, he seems to think he knows it already!! he has no idea about companys like that. Same with pc hardware, he is so single minded with the 360, pc technology overtook the 360 12 months ago. But he of course doesn`t follow pc technology so he will constantly play it down. though this is getting slightly off topic but the man irritates the sh!te out of me for his constant EXTREME fanboy comments. He will try and find some quote now to say something otherwise, hehe. Roll on 8800 and R600...........but wait, the 360 has api SHUT YER SH!TE!!!!. LOL, sorry 12volt........hehehe.

[TheMART]

Oh nice Freaking Fony Fanboys reactions so nice.

So you say Sony stands for quality? Wait to quote you before I slaughter the stupid comments:

"3. Sony is an Electronics Giant with 60+ years of manufacturing experience.

6. PS3 = Quality."

Ow wait... That's why the PS2 DVD drive was of such a bad quality that mine give up just after a year in use and it happened to so many people that with 100 million of PS2's only 50% is still working? It's even stated on Wikipedia that the drive had major problems and took a long, long time for Sony to act.

Why would it be different with the PS3 actually? Because it's Sony? Right mate. I guess nr. 4 is actually on your account.

The Cell having superbad yields of 10% to 20%? What if the PS3 you're getting only has 6 or 5 'cores' working? Would you know instantly or would you just have a crippled PS3 working slower than it should?

The shortages of BR diodes are not because production is going that well.

Added all those PS3's resetting and blocking on TGS, multiple reports of games that shut the thing down, employees kept resetting it. That's not that long ago.

Just watch. Same problems, if not more then 360 had at launch guys.

Extra year of fixing? Don't make me laugh. Extra year of stupid experimenting. Like they first thought they didn't need a GPU because Cell could do CPU and GPU tasks on the fly. RIGHTTTT

"Xbox360 / Powerbrick + $200 HD AddOn + $50XBL + 60 decibals of noise+ 20GigHD + Minimal Backwards Compatibility + No 1080p Gaming"

I see you don't have your facts right. An external power supply is good news for me. If it stops working, I only need to order the powersupply. Unlike PS3's sending the thing back to Sony's 'famous' service waiting for months and months getting it back. Heat? Going nice into the console, instead of just having it outside.

Do I need a 200 Dollar/Euro HD-DVD add-on? No I don't. So no need to buy it, save myself that amount of money spend on a BR non standard format. Nice.

XBL? Unified. PNP? Non unified, non standard, in panic put together external services making an updated sh!tty PS2 online service. Nice again. XBL = Premium, PNP = 'free' (wait untill you have to pay for demo's and cars in GT4 HD smugged up PS2 game) and low quality online service.

I prefer to have a Ferrari ride instead of the crippled East European car the PS3 is in online gaming.

1080p? You've heard of the fall update of the 360 dashboard adding that simply to the resolutions? I guess not. Uninformed guy. No brains inthere I guess, knock knock there it is. 1080p native. With a port that is digital, thus able to get a HDMI cable which MS will release not too far from now.

Enjoy PS3 True HD with the COMPOSITE cable that's delivered with it. Now that's next gen gaming, right?

[Antan]

So, where the PS3 is all in one nice box, my 360 doing the same things will consist of a console, a psu and a hd add-on, 3 items! DAMN, i need a new cablinet. Accepted the PS3 cable is a crazy f**k up!!!

[DJ]

"Sony will be behind MS untill Xbox720, they just can't make the PS3 fast enough and even if Sony were able to cut the price of the PS3 soon enough MS's lineup will be to powerful to keep people from buying 360's. Then the PS3 will be out dated by the time it pulls ahead of the 360."

Why would Microsoft release an Xbox 3 if the 360 was doing so well in the first place? Wouldn't that totally negate the sales of a console with an installed base? It would also give Sony the advantage of saying that competition had to release new hardware after a few years in order to keep up with the PS3.

PS2 used to cost almost $500 to manufacture, and now it costs less than $100 to make. PS3 production costs will fall whether you like it or not, and yes, price drops are innevitable.

[Islandkiwi]

I think the 360 has a console life(before the new one arrives) of about five years.

Technology moves too fast, and the only way to keep up is to adapt. Yes, people say the PS3 will have a ten year life. That doesn't mean there won't be a ps4 sometime in that ten year lifespan.

As for the article, who's to say? In the end the games speak for the consoles, and that's why the Wii is still in this discussion.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

...the truth was enforced. Funny how the MS fanboys are always saying 360 sells so great. Too bad there are 360 pyramids all over Europe. Too bad it's selling worse than Xbox and too bad an old gen system is outselling it month after month.

[TheMART]

Too bad there will be no PS3 in EUrope untill Spring 2007

Too bad on top of that there's nothing on the PS3 like Gears of War (besides some Killzone 2/3 CGI shown over 1,5 years ago)

Too bad Sony always overpromisses and underdelivers

Too good this CHristmas many Europeans will shop for a next gen console, where 360 will be the only choice with Gears of War for the older people and Viva Piniata for the girls/younger ones.

Too good also that it'll be soccer on 360 only for the coming year and for sure this Christmas and England first and the rest of Europe also loves soccer.

And a last gen machine of 100 dollar is bought by laggards. People who use it to cut their bread on, not by persons that invest heavily in their equipment and buy the games.

Strange comparing. Like saying driving in a Ferrari isn't worth it, so you'll buy an Opel??? That's no comparing

[kmis87]

I love your logic. Everyone above a certain age will buy Gears. Everyone below that age will buy Viva Pinata. There is no room for any difference of opinion or preference.

[4me2]

Didn't they say already that soccer exclusivity on 360 is only till the end of 2006?

[TheXgamerLive]

cut back on titles on screen graphics, backgrounds etc..due to just 256mb's being easliy accesable, blah blah blah, yeah yeah, I hear your sony drone brains working, sorry it's true, but yes, sony will do just fine do to those that believe the lies like yourselves. Also, the ps3 may have a 4 yr. life span due to this underpowered processor, but no more.

the future will tell the tail.

[Antan]

Ah yes, just like the PS2 had a limited lifespan due to its "limited" power compared to the rest? hehehe, 100+ million PS2`s in the world disagree. I can see why you have only 3 bubbles. "farewell and a do ..to you fair spanish lady".

[Islandkiwi]

When you're talking 100+ million units, keep in mind that during the ps2's lifetime I bought 3 of 'em. Look at software sales to determine the popularity of a console, not the number of consoles sold.

[TheXgamerLive]

Better hurry and buy your preorder form, and then.......................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... .............................wa it some more.......................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ...........................

[PS3 Ultimate]

Sony WON'T lose the war! They will win! And life span? The PS3 will last 10 years! I know the secret! Let's just say that we will buy another PLAYSTATION 3! And its NOT gonna be from issues from the PLAYSTATION 3 we will own soon!

[bung tickler]

you are a brain washed tool, i hope you follow someone off a cliff.

[Yo Wassap]

Nobody will win the war right now. Also he PS3 will last 10 years but by then it will be: old, decrpid, outdated, scratched, covered in panini cheese stains and bits of bagels, covered in bits of curry and beer and the sticker of Kaz's face and special limited edition lick me sticker of his a$$ will be peeling off.
Have fun for the next decade!

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

If people in Europe were tired of waiting, they would have already jumped in when the PS3 was delayed. Too bad it didn't happen and there are still 360 pyramids all over Europe.

Marty Killzone is an FPS game and not TPS. BTW why would people want a thousands hide and shoot game? Why would people want a just 12 hours game? Why would people want a just 4vs4 in mulitplayer game?
Too bad there is nothing on any platform including PC like MotorStorm.

Too bad MS is always overpromising and not delivering.

Marty how is it that you call a console with an old gen drive next gen? How is it that you call a not future proof console next gen? The sad truth is there will be still pyramids come Christmas.

Too bad MS won't have soccer exclusively for 1 year, you must have forgotten the best soccer game: Pro Evolution

Marty truth is PS1 never outsold PS2. It doesn't matter that old gen is cheaper, most people are always going for next gen. Too bad it isn't the case with 360.
Truth was enforced.

[UNREAL-T]

I own a 360 and i like it and GOW is coming, cant wait! even though i'm a sonyfan, but people listen, sony will make MS eat all the s@#t they said about ps3. Everthing this article says is right nothing is wrong, i know 360fans will be mad after read the article but it's the true, i know 360fans will come up with something stupid like "this is fake"

if u didn't understand go back and read it, it says everything i wanted to hear.

11/17 is coming and MS cant stop it.

[Tempo]

from what i gather it seems like most of you didn't expect this. Honestly i was anticipating something like this from SONY or their cronies in an effort to counteract the "postive" news posted by Msoft yesterday. SH!T they needed a positive spin from somewhere since their dismal report on 98% losses

[THAMMER1]

So you guys think the PS3 will catch up with a 500,000 console launch. And financial problems you kids have gone mad.

It is really over.

On Nov. 17/2006 the PS3 will sell out in 5 min. Then what? Do you kids think that people are going to wait?
How long?
Only fan boys will wait. People have memories of the phantom launch MARCH 2006. People know Sony is suffering financial difficulties right now. If inverters are pulling out customers will do the same.

The tears of PS3 fan boys will be wiped away with 360 controllers all over the globe.

I know you see it.

[Retard]

Kinda like when ... Xbox 360 outsold... what happend? Wait, what's happening? Seems PS2 will outsell Xbox 360 + PS3... AHH?

So, yeah sadly it seems current generation is/will dominate you're the average customers' POV of the gaming industry; I don't think Xbox(name) passed by there mind.

Ouch, yeah.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

..most gamers are waiting since over a year, so why should a few months make a difference? Sad fact is 360 is selling worse than Xbox cause most gamers wait for the mighty PS3 ;-)

[Retard]

Yeah, it was kinda suprizing to see that Xbox(1) is selling better then Xbox 360. I have 360 though, it seems to me Blu-Ray is looking better and better...

PC games are hitting the 10-12 Gb area... And this is only the beginning?
I don't know much about how data works on a disc, but look at this; 1080P takes a cr4pload of data... http://www.apple.com/traile...

[shortyNZ]

im sick of articles that count the reasons ps3 is so great, beleive what you want, get the console that suits your needs and you are set, i want lots of great exclusive games, and a brand i can trust...

[12Volt]

A hardware system that was made many moons ago... Gee, so Next Gen.. so Ready. Dont you realize MS360 released its console last year out of fear?
They're playing on Sony's game book.

sony knows when to release they're gaming console, and they werent going to ship it last year because HDTVs were still to expensive, now you can get one for about $1500 and are being made faster than ever.

If Xbox were to release this year, it would get smashed, therefore it had to quickly be rushed out to inspire consumer trust (you fanboys) and appear to be the real next gen system.

[Optimus Prime]

lets see, one cost 299 and 399, while the other cost like 139. real comparison

[Marriot VP]

might want to think that one threw, for every PS2 being sold now thats one PS3 not being sold in the next 2-4 years.

[Marriot VP]

BOTH WILL BE NEAR EQUAL, (in power and market share)

[power of Green]

PS3 will be pulling ahead of the 360 when gamers are playing the Xbox 720. Sony will need to focus on each generation longer to compete so it can make enough money to make it to the next-gen, from here on out.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

1- PS3 is the most expensive console
2- PS3 has the weakest games line up
3- It's cheaper to develop on 360
4- 6 million 360 users ALREADY! 10 by xmas!
5- Hardcore supply problems due to the diode shortage

[DJ]

If it took them a year to sell 6 million units, do you really expect them to sell 4 million within two months?

[ACE]

a big YES to ur lame Q ..... its the busiest time of the year . run up to xmas . u really r lost in ur own lame world :)

[FKN Unbelievable]

"now you can get one for about $1500 and are being made faster than ever. "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHAHAHHAa Wait let me catch my breath HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Most dudes up here can't even afford a PS3 so how the F^ck they gonna go cop a $1500 HD T.V.?
Like i said before i have a 52" Project tv and i Use the HD cable to clear the Picture up now my sh1t may not be 1080i or p but it looks good playing my games though and that as that matters.

[Daewoodrow]

Don't blow a cap anyone, this is just my take on the article.
Not that this article isn't logical. Much as I hate to admit it, the Xbox 360 has done alot of good things, yet still might not even get an equal Market share. Brand loyalty is a powerful, powerful thing.

That being said, alot of this article is speculative based on news reports. The Xbox 360 is now selling more than the original xbox did at the same time according to the latest infamous figures, and being outsold my the last gen PS2 does not mean it is underperforming. The PS3 will be outsold by the PS2 as well. For a while.

And the Bluray argument is still based on the assumption that DVD is inadequate for this generation. Which so far, the only proof of which is coming from Sony. They don't necessarily need to ultra compress their games, as though because Bluray is available all of a sudden all games need 25GB. For all you know the develpers aren't even going beyond ordinary compression to fit on a DVD yet.

[THAMMER1]

How is that possible when the 360 is breaking PS2's records?

This is why Sony fan boys have such a hard time. You guys are more full of it than Sony.

[Marriot VP]

the answer:

PS2 - 100 bucks
360 - 400 bucks

Majority of gamers are casual and casual gamers buy 200 dollar consoles. NOT 400, NOT 600. The first console to get at that price margin gains the most market share.(wii excluded) Casual gamers AREN'T LOYAL to a company, most of them anyways. It's hardly loyalty, more like familiarity.

Sony's knows 100 percent what their doing, and their comments say it all. They could care less if the PS3 comes in third or first, it's all about getting BR to succeed. Hence the BR copy of talledaga to entice owners to buy more BR discs.

A good example of their concentration is their online, it's basically up to developers to support and maintain everything about their game. Which is very costly, which begs the question how many games are going to have decent online, or charge. Either way it's UP TO THEM.

Also you can't compare the PS2 to 360 because ummm the 5-6 year generation gap anybody. I'm so sick of retarded sony fanboys thinking they can spit out numbers.

IF ANYTHING, THE MORE PS2's SOLD THE LESS PS3's

[TheXgamerLive]

Yeah, sony keep it up errr down baby!!!

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

What records? The australian one? Or the worldwide one that they got by default, cause they were first to launch worldwide? LOL...Poor fanboys always deny the truth, but no matter what, it has to be enforced.
Thammie, as I already stated, you are just pure comedy. Here is for the people that don't know what I'm talkin about our funny conversation:

"9 - Thammie
EnforcerOfTheTruth - 16 Hours ago | Let him/her speak
You didn't answer my question. I can only repeat myself: Why do you say PS3 costs $600 while there is a $500 version? Is it
a) cause of your blind fanboyism or
b) do the $500 version lack something significant?

Please choose Thammie and explain your choice. People deserve to know the truth and all I want is to enforce it.
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10 - If you must know 1st read my link poat #8
THAMMER1 - 16 Hours ago | Let him/her speak
O.K. When and if I buy a PS3 the only version they offer the is best suited for me is the $600.00 version. (PRO PACK) The $500.00 is the RETARD PACK. The $600.00 version has a chrome finish and a 60 gig HDD. Although 20 gigs is good enough

See the problem is you think I'm out to stop the PS3. But I'm not I just want us to be more honest. It really bothers me that people can not tell the truth all because of brand loyalty.

I work in the credit division on a bank. People make bad financial decisions for the same reason.

The PS3 is a good console but it is extremely over priced and the Blue ray drive is a Trojan horse. It dose not bother me that the 360 has no BR or HD DVD drive because it has been proven time and time again that 9 gigs will be fine for the next 5 plus years and more. PC gamers have been enjoying better graphics and more immersive games that we console gamers for years on DVD. So for Sony to say BR make the next gen better is nothing more than BULL S#!T. They are playing with the game community’s intelligence. Claimes that CG footage being true game play, claime that Blue Ray will make games better. (WTF) And the rest you know.

Examples: http://www.gameklip.com/v/1...

Sony fan boys look past all of the PR infractions because you guys are in love with play station so much that you see no faults. That reminds me of myself back in 2000. I was running around talking about how powerful the PS2 was and how it could be used to arm nukes and on and on.

This is my last bubble and I hope you get my point. But I have a question, is the Cell smarter than you?

The truth has no bias. Look up the dictionary definition of the word Bias.

I do not hate the PS3 but I am turned off but Sony and people who make group think decisions.
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EnforcerOfTheTruth - 15 Hours ago | Let him/her speak
You call the $500 PS3 a RETARD PACK cause it doesn't have a chrome finish? That's one of the dumbest things I ever heard, are you serious? So what is the Core 360 without HDD and wireless controllers for you? You are just pure comedy. Also funny that you say 20GB is enough. Doesn't it have anything to do with 360 only having 20GB? ROFLMFAO

Calling PS3 overpriced is another classic. Truth is it has a way better value than 360 and your beloved console costs a lot more if it only offers HD-DVD.

How could it be proven time and time again that 9 gigs will be fine for the next 5 plus years? Sheesh fanboy, we are in the 360's 1st year LOL What you are saying about PC games is simply ridiculous and only shows that you ain't playing on PC. PC games can surely survive the next few years on DVD, but not console games. Console games ain't installed on HDD and have to be decompressed on the fly.
Thammie don't forget that it was Sony themselves who admitted it wasn't realtime. Everybody makes mistakes. It's more important how you deal with them then that you make them.

Yeah the truth has no bias and I'm stating the simple, naked truth. I know that biased fanboys hate the truth, but no matter what, it has to be enforced.

I have an aswer for you: Cell can't be smarter than any human. In case you didn't know it, Cell or any other CPU can't think, it can only execute. I got a better question for you:
Is an ape smarter than you? You should know there are apes with higher IQ than dumb humans..."

LOL Thammie, you da man :-D

[DIGITALDREAMKID]

Sony will win next gen. for 2 very simple reasons. A) Brand Loyalty and B) Fan Base. Also here an interesting thing. I have a feeling that Nintendo and Sony will join forces. Because remember the enemy of my enemy is my friend. One thing that ticks me off is how about people is how they always want to throw the sony is loosing money card. Thats is do not freaking thruth Sony may not be making money but they sure arent loosing any either. Unlike Microsoft they keep loosing money for every box that they sell. Now someone please correct me if i am wrong since i dont follow microsoft. But aren't they still loosing money on their last box? I remember when PS2 came out Sony started making money off it after 2 years. When will microsoft be able to do that? Microsoft can have all the money in the world but a company can only loose so much money for so long before it has to cut its bleeding. And on that note microsoft wont always be so profitable. Remember we are all digital kids in a digital world. Most of us grew up with a mac or pc. But now there is more out there than just those 2. Microsoft now has to fight fights all around it. Mac is gaining more ground and so is linux. Some of us kids perfer linux or mac over pc. We want something different something that doesnt always crash and always needs to be upgraded. Microsoft has no where to go but down. Sony has no where to go but up. Sony's PS3 will be more powerful than the box. It may not show right away but wait til next year and there will be a world off difference in the two consoles. Sony is a major powerhouse and it will use its alliances to its advantage. Its own sister companies. And heres food for thought people to a lot of us money is not an issue.

[ACE]

UR 100% WRONG :) . AS FOR THIS ARTICLE , well it just made me lol

[12Volt]

join Forces... Nintendo made a fool and betrayed Sony, it's the reason Sony is even a console maker to prove to Nintendo it could succeed, turns out it didnt only succeed it complete changed everything.

[LegendaryMark]

Non-biased analysis, good points and some pretty solid conclusions. I would agree with most of it, especially the brand trust. I live in the UK where I regularly see people completely oblivious to any other consoles out there but PlayStation. Don't underestimate the power of brand trust.

[Peacemaker]

Read the word in front of the title of this article...Opinion. This is just some guys opinion. Anyone could just as easily write an article giving 5 reasons why the 360 will win the next gen console war, and probably be more successful at it. As a matter of fact, all of you have opinions right now, but the facts will reveal themselves in actual sales not in opinions or wishful thinking.

[2tired2day2hate]

the thing about all these "here's why sony/ms/nintendo will/won't win" articles is that they are all shots in the dark. of course they are opinion articles, but no matter how much sence they might make it comes down to "wait and see".
the steelers werent the best nfl team last year
the cardinals werent the best baseball team this year
dreamcast wasnt worse than the other 2 at that time
what i'm getting at is logic and sence mean nothing to reality and how things play out. if 2 days after 911 when it was bin laden this and bin laden that if you would have said "i bet we'll start a war with iraq even though we know they had nothing to do with this" people would have said you were stupid. but look at what happened. if you would have said 2 years ago that sony would drop the ball over and over again and that the ps3 would be a do or die system no one would have believed you.

so sony might rape the competition, or ms might get balls-deep in sony. predictions are worthless to people that they dont effect

[Marriot VP]

hey!!!, quit spreading unapproved logic

somebody ban this person for keeping it real

[NextGen24Gamer]

A few months in the USA only. The 360 is outselling the ps2 worldwide. Microsoft could have focused all 6 million units in the USA and sold them all easily. But they did something no console maker has ever done. They are selling units worldwide. They sold 5 million units faster than any console in histroy. And the fact it was worldwide makes it an even bigger accomplishment. The original xbox sold more units in the usa than the 360. But its only because the 360 is spread out simultaniously around the world. So MS is allocating a certain amount in different Countries. So when this article and sony fanboys bring up the ps2 is outselling the 360. Its ONLY in the USA. And it has more to do with the units allocated in the USA. But one point they don't want to see or have no answer to is...."the 360 at 3.5 times the cost of the ps2 is selling more than any console in history in the same time period. No console has sold 10 million in the first year. The 360 will reach the 10 million mark by the end of this year. 1 million in sept/october. And 2 million in November. And another 2 plus million sold in December. Gears of War coupled with ps3 shortages...will give the already peak time of the year an even bigger boost. Thanks Microsoft. And when gamers see that Not ONE game for the ps3 compares or even comes close to Gears of War. The War will be over. I know many people who think that all of Sony's battery recalls, makes sony unapealing. They think that the ps3 is over priced and might blow up due to the exploding batteries. Of course its hogwash. But many consumers don't know much but what they see on the news. And Sony right now has a tarnished name. Its sad...but true. So yes the 130 dollar ps2 is selling a tad faster in the USA only than the 400 dollar 360. Is that a shocker to people when MS is selling 360's worldwide in Africa, Australia, Europe, Asia, Japan, India, and the USA. Thanks Microsoft...

[kmis87]

So is that why there are pyramids of 360s at my local Walmart, Best Buy, and Target? Because Microsoft launched globally? Is that why stores around me can't seem to sell all their inventory no matter how hard they try? The only sales I really follow are the sales in the US, and 2.7 million through the first 10+ months is not so great. Also, I only know two people who bought a 360, and one of them actually bought it for Top Spin Tennis, not Gears of War (He couldn't care less about Halo3 or Gears, or any other game like that (I on the other hand, will be buying Gears to play on his 360, and eventually when I buy one, on my 360).

It's true that not all consumers know as much as people that would spend their time posting on websites about consoles (i.e. us), but those people are more likely to be encouraged by the systems they've bought and enjoyed (i.e. playstation systems, over 200 million sold) than stuff they've heard in the news about laptops.

[DJ]

Most people that bought an Xbox didn't buy Halo, just as most people that bought a PS2 didn't buy Grand Theft Auto. To assume that one game, like Gears of War, is going to salvage the 360 and sell millions of consoles this holiday season is just wishful thinking. And seriously, selling 2.7 million consoles after 10 months in the U.S. market is just pitiful.

If people haven't been very interested in the system for an entire year, what makes you think that christmas will change their minds? Worse yet, it'll be competing with the Wii, the PS2, AND the PS3 this holiday season.

[FKN Unbelievable]

"Most people that bought an Xbox didn't buy Halo,"
Who write this stuff for you? AS if Exactly Every person owning a system is going to buy it.

[12Volt]

Did 360 Sell 6million?? Or Ship that many?

[NextGen24Gamer]

First of all Walmart doesnt have pyrimids of any game console. You are lying with the intent to bash the 360 and its spectacular world wide sales figures. The 360 has sold 6 million as of August. That is amazing. You can downplay it all you want. You can lie and say you see pyrimids everywhere. Right !!!! We believe you sony rabid fanboys. Walmart keeps their 360's in a locked case by the games area. And I go to Walmart every tuesday to get my New Release HD dvd movies and ask about sales of the 360. Every week they tell me the same thing. The 360's are steadily coming in. About 3 shipments a week. And they sell, refill, sell, refill...and come the weekend. They are sold out. And as far as EB games, Gamestop, and Game Crazy. Same thing. They get several shipments a week. They sell them at a steady rate. None of the stores have backstock of 360's. And same with Costco. Thats the only place I have seen prymids of 360's. And the will have a stack of 50 at my local Costco and the next week the stack is gone. So 360's are selling and according to Microsoft...they are on target to sell 10 million by the end of the year. Why does this bother ps3 fans? I don't understand. Why do you wish the 360 to fail and downplay every bit of good news that comes the 360's way?

First it was the 5 million sold the fastest in histroy.

Then it was the 5 games sold per console, which is a record.

Then it was the 3 accessories sold per console which is another record.

Then it's launch games ranked higher than the PS1, PS2, and Dreamcast....

Then it was 6 million SOLD as of August.

What next? Gears of War winning every gaming award there is?

The 360 selling 10 million by the end of the year?

HD dvd being a huge success and having 40 % attatch ratio?

Halo 3 being the biggest game launch in History?

Why all the hate from Sony fans?

Facts are facts...and all you guys do is bash and lie. Put up or shut up. Show a link to ANY site stating what you claim. Stating that the 360's aren't selling. They are piling up and the sales are bismal. Please humor us. You bring up that the 130 dollar ps2 is selling a tad more than the 400 dollar 360....in the USA ONLY...when you don't take into consideration....Microsoft isn't focusing on the USA market. They are doing what no other console maker has ever been able to do. Sell Worldwide simultaniously. So therefore the USA is only selling what is being shipped to them. And being since MS is spread out with its sales....Its an even bigger accomplishment to sell as much as they have and as fast as they have. MS knows they have the USA in its back pocket. They know once Halo 3 comes out and Gears of War comes out...All they have to do is allocate the appropriate amount of 360's to the USA and through out the world...and it will easily reach the 10 million by the end of the year. Its not a mater of do people want the 360. Its a matter of getting enough units out. If Microsoft can get 10 million units out by this christmas...they will easily sell that ammount. Same theory with the ps3. If Sony could ship 2 million. They would sell it. But the problem is they can only ship 500k. And the problem is Chistmas don't wait for no one. MS can now enjoy a christmas success that most consoles enjoy when they have enough units allocated. Europe its the same story but a much better picture for the 360. There are more gamers than their are sony or microsoft fanatics in the world. But sony fanatics are sad indeed. They are desperate to bash the 360 and they are trying to convince themselves that its not doing well. Wake up boys. What will you say when the 360 reaches 10 million by the end of the year? What will be your arguement then? Is that not spectacular? Is that not a huge success? ha ha ha ha....Sad you are. Grow up folks. Its video games people. Buy what you want to play and enjoy. As of now there are over 6 million 360's sold as of a few months ago. Sony's plan is to sell 6 million by May/June 2007. Most annalyst can't see that happening...but we will see. Its definately shooting high and easier said than done. That would be 1 million more than the 360 had sold at the same time. Once again...its not about are there people to buy it. Its more about can they produce that many in that time alloted. The ps3 has much more intricate parts than the 360 due to the low yielding cell chip and the blu ray player in every unit. So in theory...it would take them longer to make working ready to go ps3 units than the 360 and its proven architecture. We will see. But stop lying folks. Or at the very least give a link to support your bogus claims.

[DJ]

“And I go to Walmart every tuesday to get my New Release HD dvd movies and ask about sales of the 360.” Wait, so you’re buying HD-DVD movies every week before the add-on has even been released? Why??? By the way, if you're asking the employees of every store how many 360s they're selling every week, you're both a geek and an annoyance. I'm amazed they haven't thrown something at you yet.

“None of the stores have backstock of 360's. And same with Costco.” Well, to be fair, Costco makes sure that they never have backstock of anything because they have exact sales estimates of the products they’re going to sell. If it doesn’t sell at a high rate, it’s not going to be at Costco; this is because they can’t afford the shelf space or time. To assume that this means that they’re selling out is pretty funny actually. Maybe you should read up on how some of these companies actually work. As for the pyramids of 360s at Gamestop/EB Games, those are actually empty boxes so I don’t know what you’re getting into a hissy fit for. Either way, 2.7 million sold in the U.S. after 10 months (actual data) is pretty sad, especially when the PS2 sold 4.4 million units within the same time frame.
http://www.vgcharts.org/usa...
Oh look, a link! –gasp- But it doesn’t matter because as we all know, Topgamer begs for links as proof, and when the proof is provided he says the LINKS are lying! And hilarity ensues.

“First it was the 5 million sold the fastest in history” I assume you meant that Xbox 360 sold 5 million consoles faster than any other console in history, which means you’re wrong (as usual). It’s actually the PS2. Xbox 360 sold 6 million units after a worldwide launch within a 10 month period. But the PS2 not only sold 4.4 million units in the U.S. alone within that same amount of time, but it also sold 3.6 million units in Japan within its first 10 months in that country.
http://www.vgcharts.org/jap...
8 million units vs. 6 million. Even with a worldwide launch, the 360 is selling worse than the PS2, which had a 7 month gap between the two countries I included. I didn’t bother to add up the worldwide sales figures ‘cause it probably would’ve made Topgamer cry. To compare, the 360 is available all across the globe. Now you have proof that TopGamer is simply a frustrated fanatic who can’t accept the fact that his favorite console has weak sales figures.
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“Then it was the 5 games sold per console, which is a record. Then it was the 3 accessories sold per console which is another record.” A console that supports 4 controllers sells 3 accessories per console? Hmm. And only 5 games were bought per console? If that’s a record, that’s pretty sad.

“Then it was 6 million SOLD as of August.”
I guess that explains this: http://news.com.com/Six+mil...
CNET: “Microsoft has sold 6 million Xbox 360 video game consoles worldwide since releasing the unit about a year ago, the company said on Thursday.” Yeah…August…right. I’ll take Microsoft’s word over yours any day of the week.

Then there’s your speculation: “What next? Gears of War winning every gaming award there is? The 360 selling 10 million by the end of the year? HD dvd being a huge success and having 40 % attatch ratio? Halo 3 being the biggest game launch in History?”

Gears of War hasn’t been reviewed yet. The 360 has 4 million units to go before they hit 10 million by the end of the year. Originally Microsoft said they’d sell 10 million before the PS3 ever launched, but that statement was a bit too optimistic. HD-DVD, no matter how high an attachment ratio, still won’t compare to the Blu-ray attachment figures of the PS3 (which is 100%). As for Halo 3 having the biggest game launch in history, I think you’re ignoring a lot of other games coming out for both the 360 and PS3, like Bioshock, Metal Gear Solid (which has convinced MANY people to go out and buy the system), Final Fantasy XIII, etc. Hell, maybe even Mass Effect or Killzone will beat it out. No one can predict the future THAT far ahead, so don’t even attempt it.

[NextGen24Gamer]

Your a strange fellow. I bought the HD dvd player when it launch a way back. Not the add on. The actual player for 499.99 at Best Buy. I also plan on getting the add on. I will put the HD dvd stand alone in the living room and the add on in my bed room. And for your information...I spend over 60k a year on games,movies and entertainment. Eb games, Best buy, Walmart...they all love me. I have made good friends at the game/entertainment centers are many stores. When a game gets released people hold them for me and call me to let me know its in. I have invited many a manager to my house for game sessions. I'm a people person and I'm loved by many. I buy every game/every movie/ect. And I love to talk about games and the business. I'm an information hound. I love to learn and get different peoples perspectives. Every one I know from my Girls brother who is the manager at GameCrazy to my uncle who is the manager at EB games, to my old boss from 10 years ago who is the head manager at Best Buy, to my girls best friend who works in the Movies and Music section of Walmart. I get all the info and sales data from them and they have all said that the 360 is steadily selling and they recieve 3 to 4 shipments a week. EB games get 4 every time in two boxes. They get about 12 to 14 a week. They sell them all every week. You can come in at any give time and see they have a couple. But its only because they are constantly restocked. Walmart is the same way. Costco and Best Buy get more at one time but they only get 1 to 2 shipments a week. Am I a gaming geek? Sure. I love video games. I was raised on video games. My father would buy the video game units from the arcades. We had 8 video game arcade units in our game room. I had coleco vision with moon patrol and smurfs...I had intellivision, Pong, Atari 400, atari 2400, all the nintendos, all the sega systems, sony's 2 systems, MS's systems, 3do and the jaguar. I even remember playing my first computer video game in DOS with no graphics. Just text based gameplay. You had to type in commands and it would type back to you what happened. Kings Quest, ect. So for someone to call me an xbox fanboy...they have no idea. I love GAMES. Anyone who buys 6 xbox 360's, 4 xbox's, 4 ps2's (granted 3 broke), 4 dreamcasts (just to play phantasy online with my fam and friends) and 4 computers that I keep upgraded every 6 months....I enjoy games...I have money to do so....But that doesn't mean I'm stupid. Yes, I'm getting a ps3. But I totally disagree with the move to add blu ray and I'm totally not convinced about the Cell yet. Maybe its the bad taste that the ps2 left with me. I couldn't tell you. But I'm a little cautious to believe the hype that SONY has attempted to stir. I will see for myself. But, let me waste my own money the way I choose to. If the ps3 is Great. I will likely get more than one as well. Its me.

Now, DJ.....The 360 is the fastest console to reach 5 million sold. You have tried through the months to lie and weasle your way out of the truth. You have said it was shipped and sited a ps3land site to back you up. MS has said time and time again they sold 5 million as of the end of the fiscal year. I can give you multiple links that state that and also clearify that its a record.

And if you think 5 games sold per console is bad...ha ha ha...the ps2 is 1.8 games sold per console. How you like those facts buddy. Sony fans aren't even gamers. 1.8 games sold per console. WOW. So buy your ps3 and buy yoru 1 or 2 games and call your self a gamer.

Developers know that 360 gamers got money and they buy games. And with a larger install base...WOW....Thats why xbox 360 has much much mroe exclusive games than the ps3 or even Nintendo at this point.

There is a big differnce in the HD dvd add on and the ps3 with the included blu ray player. For one buddy when a 360 owner buys the hd dvd add on...they are confirming that they INTEND on buy HD dvd movies. Thats not the case with the ps3. They have no idea how many ps3 owners will buy blu ray movies. I mean the average sony fan don't even buy many games. ha ha ha ha....

DJ any person with common sense knows that October, November, and December is the biggest months for video game consoles. So you can wish on the 360's downfall all you want to...but the reality is...there is nothing that you can do to stop it buddy. If MS can ship 10 million...MS will sell 10 million. PERIOD. If you were a betting man...I would bet you any amount of money on that. Its really not that hard to understand. Its common sense. If MS would have shipped 10 million on DAY 1. The 360 would have sold 10 million by now. Its common sense DJ. You really don't understand? 24 million xbox owners out there. MS could easily sell 10 million 360's if they ship it. And from all the people I have talked to in the business and all that I have read up on....The 360 is selling as much as they ship. From what I was told they are stock piling up 360's in Redmond for the Holiday Push. So when they say they are on track to sell 10 million. I have no reason to doubt that. MS has always under promised and over delievered. They said they would have 4.5 to 5.5 million sold by the end of the fiscal year...and what do you know...5 million sold...

Now sony on the other hand....ha ha ha ha...6 million at launch...no no..2 million at launch...no no...2 million by the end of the year....no no 500k at launch...no no...6 million at the end of the fiscal year....1 million more than the 360 did to break the record...no no...we are going to do a worldwide launch...no no...only Japan and USA....no no...100k in japan for launch...no no...we are going to launch in April 2006...no no...we are going to launch in Europe in May 2007. I can see why sony fans would be skeptical of anything anyone would say.

ha ha ha ha....Not us 360 owners....we bought a 360 assuming we would have 720p...no no...MS changed it to 1080p...WOW...We bought a console that plays dvd's....no no...MS is releasing an hd dvd add on for use with the 360 thats 300 dollars less than the HD dvd stand alone player...WOW....We bought a system and thought it used the direct x 9 api...no no...come to find out it has aspects of direct x 10 and its own api...WOW....Underpromise and over deliever. So if MS says they will sell 10 million by the end of the year. I give them 9.5 to 10.5 give or take. Thats incredible considering how dominant the sony brand has been in the last two generations. The first to 10 million sold has won every generation. Why is that? Well because Developers flock to the system with that size in fan base. More games...More consoles sold...More dominations.

DJ..direct your hate toward Sony. They are the reason you are waiting a whole year to play games that don't match what 360 gamers have been playing for a year. WOW. thanks Microsoft.

[NextGen24Gamer]

Then it launched in America late 2000. If you total the amount it sold in japan and then in america in the same time period combined...its about 5 million sold in 10 months. The 360 sold 5 million in 6 months and 6 million in 9 months. You see. Its quarterly. So 10 months isn't quartly DJ. I don't know who you think you are communitating with. But I will always expose your lies buddy. You should know this by now. So go back and recalculate your math buddy and see I'm right as always. So 6 million in 9 months compared to the ps2..which was a huge success and killed the dreamcast in that first year only sold 5 million in 10 months from launch early 2000 October 2000. What you did was take the first 10 months of the Japan launch and then take the next 10 months of the usa launch and combined them. But what you didn't think about is that was over a 20 month period you genious you. ha ha ha ha ha...Nice try. So once again. Like many articles have said. The 360 sold 5 million faster than any console in HISTORY. WOW. They just went about it on a global scale which most companies can't do. It takes a huge company to pull it off as MS did and Sony could not. Thanks Microsoft.

[ApocalypseShadow]

no one knows who will win this next round.but for now,microsoft has to prove that they can win against sony.sony doesn't have to prove that they can beat microsoft.no matter how many ps1s or ps2s people bought,they bought it to equal 100 million+ of each one.and the second time was with competition.microsoft comes in with "MEGA MONEY",but only ties the sales of the atari 2600 with competition that has LESS money.we're talking BILL GATES MONEY HERE.but they only sell 24 million.sega and nintendo sold more game systems in the past that were more than 24 million.all these firsts though are won by default.there is no other next gen system on the market.these figures are the same as EA saying they have the fastest selling nfl football game out there.or the most sold nfl football game on the market.THERE's ONLY ONE NFL FOOTBALL GAME THAT CAN BE MADE BECAUSE OF A CONTRACT.that's not a win to me.if you win a baseball game but the other team didn't show up on time,to me that wasn't a win.you won by default.what happens if sony starts to pull themselves together(and they really need to pull themselves together),will microsoft abandon its market AGAIN and release a new system(720)? i love sega,but that sounds like them.releasing a system before it is ready to be on the market.will the 720 even play 360 games? or even xbox games?"oh sorry xbox gamers,it's time for you to move up because we want to be first to market and get a lead on the competition before they release their system."the 360 is a good system,but i have as yet to see a "next gen game" that went past it's looks.this will be a test for all the gamers getting gears of war.if you have a high powered gun and you shoot a wall and nothing happens,to me that's not next gen.great graphics,not next gen(SEE: STRANGLEHOLD PS3/360).if there are not more than 8 enemies on the screen,not next gen.if it is not 60 frames per second,yup you guessed it,not next gen.dreamcast started off at 60fps with its games.i don't see a lot of 360 games that are made at 60 or even reaching 60.it has been a year and not one japanese rpg on the market,not one real action game like devil may cry,ninja gaiden or god of war.not one racing game that goes beyond the bumper car effect of an open city.i LOVE racing games.but that cramped city racing thing is tired.not one great flying game.not one great puzzle game.only one fighting game.TONS of pc ports.i'm a console gamer so i want console games.microsoft needs to prove to me that i should fork over money AGAIN to get their system.and it won't be to watch hd-dvd.if they do reach a 40% attach rate(good luck with that),i will be in the 60% that doesn't buy it.THANKS SONY FOR INCLUDING IT IN THE SYSTEM SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BUY ATTACHMENTS.AND THEN PATCH IT WITH A DOWNLOAD.