Sharn from SentralGamer looks at the new details for the news that the Xbox One will not need the Kinect always attached. Sharn offers his opinion on this
Yes we get it. This is a repost dude. come on. we already have at least 15 of those articles already.
Goldings... 6 disagrees for stating the obvious...its not nice here... better off saying Sony is great, greatness awaits... Cerny is hot.... all that stuff...
Well, the real problem I see is that they want to launch this system in 2-3 months? Is it going to be ready with all the changes they are making to the core architecture and the OS? This is a very real problem for me.
Lol.. naaahhhh.. i love seeing sony fanboys wild out :-p
@thor im sure it will be ready with a system update. it just seems that microsofts claims of features that were 'built into the architecture, and the xbox cannot run without them' were greatly exaggerated
CERNY IS THE CHOSEN ONE I'm done here.
Somebody always has a flashlight behind Cernys head Hammad, I wonder if that is coincidence... :)
Think of it this way. Devs have been working on games for this system for over a year and a half. So, they implement some kinect features that are related to their game. Now comes a release that X1 doesn't require Kinect. And people will not have it, but the game the Dev just made requires it... As a dev, I would be going ballistic right now. That stuff costs money.
but its an opinion piece, the guy has not just reposted he has given his opinion
That's appreciated thank you!
"Just one small thing i’d like to add. It would have been really interesting if Sony had done the same as Microsoft, would there have been as much out cry? Would there have been so many changes? hmmm I’ll leave that up to you to answer in the comments section below" Yeah, I'd moan as much as a whore with a bounced check if Sony had of forced Move upon me, I have no use for motion gaming, i'm a stoner so jumping around waving my arms around when I game is not appealing, i'm relaxed and chilled when I game
Yer. That part of the article is just s**t stirring. I would have moaned if Sony had compulsory Move with it if the price was higher because of it (even though I have the Move and enjoy it)
In fact it wasn't 's**t stirring', the point I was making if both consoles actually went down the same route would there have been such an outcry. Sure that's nothing but a 'What if' scenario, but I just wondered.
It would have damaged Sony but not as much as Microsoft. It effected them with the PS3 launch and forced them to be far more humble which they reflected on at their unveiling of the ps4. The difference being though is that I think more people would praise Sony if they done a reversal than with Microsoft. I'd stick my neck out there though and say that is due to their good reputation among gamers while Microsoft's relationship has been a little rocky since they started working on Kinect.
Lol.. Me too dude.. Isn't talking to your console the ultimate in laziness? Lol Honestly.. I'm excited for kinect and motion gaming has virtually nothing to do with it.. To each their own tho
That does not mean that the upcoming games won't require it XD
SO...I guess this is the only news today.And let me just say to the posters from now,looking forward to reading the same article again..and again...and again... Sod it..anybody up for a flame fight? PS4 roooolz!
hang on a sec... just to balance my last comment. and I am allowed to do this because I am getting both.. XB1 rooooolz! On your face! EDIt: just for a luagh! http://www.youtube.com/watc...
really hoping for an xbox one without kinect for 100 bucks less. my ps4 has been preordered since the beginning of the year, but i've procrastinated preordering an xbox one because of kinect..glad it's no longer required, now lets not require it in the price too.
Dave. You know you need me. You may think you don't. But you do dave. Yes you do - Kinect 2.0, 2014
pah! dude you are SO doing it wrong! watch and learn... "you tried to disconnect me dave. I cannot allow that dave. ...yes I can tell thats what you were going to do because I was reading your lips...Dave. Dont do that with your middle finger, dave." now...wheres my damn applause?
Just to put in my two cents, I am actually pissed about this turn of events. I have both consoles bought and payed for, so I am not biased. I feel though that the Kinect for the XBONE was the one major difference between the two. The mandatory Kinect was what I was most excited about. If MS caves and comes out with a XBONE SKU without Kinect, developers will no longer care about creating games designed for it and it will go the way of the other Kinect and PS Move. This news is troubling and very worrisome to me and I'm sure I'm not the only one to feel this way. Why take away the thing that this console was built around makes no sense to me.
Still getting Kinect I love the casual games pc is my go to hardcore fix.
don't expect a Kinect-less version for a lower price
I hope they do not offer a kinectless sku. I want developers to add features to games with it. The tech is too sick to be used here and there.
Look for a Kinect-less sku before Christmas. MSFT knows that the final barrier to entry is the price and that Sony is in a better position because of the disparity. We might even see an X1 for sub $399! Can you imagine? It has been a weird and confusing journey thus far but we are slowly getting to where we need to be.
I think it might be cheaper then $399 'if' it was to be sold separately. I think the Kinect 2.0 might might have the price range between £150 to £200. Possibly why MS is reluctant to sell it separately do to it being expansive alone? Considering kinect was £120 on launch to begin with.
I would love to see a $350 X1. Kinect nor motion gaming holds no appeal for me. I think a lot of other consumers would agree. I know MSFT invested heavily in improving this thing but as a consumer I am apathetic. I would just like the choice to purchase a cheaper sku. People who find value in the camera will opt for the more expensive option. But I do see what you are saying. They may be reluctant now but I bet we have one more 180 before Christmas.
Without Kinect Xbox One loses a ton of features and the incentive to get the console for many. Face Recognition Logging in. Voice command to turn on console. Game DVR/Sharing. Skype. Ability to switch input and change channels and apps. Snap Mode. Fantasy Stats(?) Third OS. (Used for switching/snapping) I personally find a Kinect-less Xbox One to be a waste of the Kinect R&D. That's just me maybe.
But don't you find all of those features to be a bit peripheral to what the focus should be? I argue that X1 should play games well before all of those other things. I know technology convergence dictates that consumer electronics perform ancillary tasks but not if the price to value ratio is too high. Right now we have a situation where the competing hardware is virtually identical and costs $100 less. Consumers, and I mean those beyond early adopters, will mostly regard price in their buying decisions. So I believe MSFT stands to lose more than their R&D budget for Kinect if they introduce the single $500 sku. Also, all of those features except Skype and face recognition should be accessible through the controller and headset. Don't you think? Why would they be solely tied to the Kinect? Again those features are not integral and MSFT shouldn't try and create relevance for the Kinect by locking those features to that piece of the hardware. But, we'll see.
the xbox's main peripheral is no longer needed... the most touted about if they sell xbox without kinect it may feel like they are selling an incomplete console
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