PS4 pre-orders leading 4:1 against Xbox One in Netherlands

The PlayStation 4 is taking a big lead against the Xbox One in the Netherlands

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

Japan/Europe looks to be total playstation nation at this point - With the toss up being UK which could go either way

The last bastion of xbox strength is NA where things are closer then they've ever been.

Going to be interesting.

[user7402931]

that $399 sweet spot will take na.

[Tony-A]

And if software pre-order number are any indication, it looks like the PS4 is the favorable console for the next generation in the States, too (not even taking into account how well the hardware itself has been preselling in the US).

And this is all despite the fact that the PS4 has a "weaker launch lineup" according to some web-dwellers.

[georgeenoob]

Oh look, a rumor of pre-order figure in NETHERLANDS. You got to be kidding me. But ofcourse fanboys on N4G will support it.

@Tony
You're wrong. Killzone got more pre-orders than any X1 exclusive because that's pretty much their only AAA exclusive on PS4. X1 has 4 exclusives to look forward to instead of just Killzone: DR3, KI, Ryse, Forza 5.

Man you fanboys are delusional, don't even think about trying to argue that Knack or Driveclub is AAA by the way.

@Deividas
Someone's gotta call these fanboys out on their delusions before they get diagnosed with schizophrenia.

@Skips

"LMFAO! Killer Instinct is some watered down F2P title with one character available at first. What does that have to do with pre orders???

And Dead Rising 3 and Ryse were former scrapped 360 games meant to fluff up MS launch lineup because they had nothing else to prepare...

Quick question.... What good 360 exclusives are coming out this year that you're looking forward too??? XD"

Killer Instinct - Not F2P. Just cause 1 character is F2P doesn't make the entire game F2P, it's a full game with full characters.

Dead Rising 3- So what if it was a former 360 game? Have you seen it running? Can you honestly say that the game would even run on current gen consoles with a hundreds of zombies on screen at once with an open world game with not one loading screen throughout the entire game and graphics like that? Lol

And 360 is getting World Tanks incase you didn't know.

[Deividas]

Seriously george...you wasted your one bubble on with that comment...come on

EDIT: Also George the Xbox one exclusives dont look so hot so far to be fair...
DR3: Most likely a timed exclusive
KI: Being developed by a HORRIBLE company (games like Battleship and Silent Hill Homecoming)
Ryse: Already said to be a lot more fun to watch than actually play
Forza 5: Alright that looks hot lol

But still come on..

[trywizardo]

oh wait i heard a rumor that says is mars WiiU kick both consoles ass ... are you kidding me you fanboys are really idiots , gosh when i read your comments i feel like a 12 years old's fights about a toy ... its a rumor stop acting so dumb about it LMAO

[Skips]

-green

LMFAO! Killer Instinct is some watered down F2P title with one character available at first. What does that have to do with pre orders??? Not to mention it's being made by a horrid developer.

And Dead Rising 3 and Ryse were former scrapped 360 games meant to fluff up MS launch lineup because they had nothing else to prepare... So the only real next gen launch title you're getting is Forza 5.

Quick question.... What good AAA 360 exclusives are coming out this year that you're looking forward to before next gen hits??? XD

Don't know about you buddy, but in terms of exclusives, I'm pretty busy playing The Last Of Us (GOTY contender) and just recently bought Tales of Xillia. Next up is Beyond Two Souls and then Gran Turismo 6. Once PS4 hits, i'll be playing Killzone SF, DriveClub, and Planetside 2...

What's your plan??? Play the waiting game??? XD

[NatureOfLogic]

but tat ultimate Xbox unboxing./s

[aceitman]

@tony I like if someone can confirm x1'S launch titles day one from what I see there is only 4 games that are day one titles
(killer instinct being one of them ) so will any of these games be delayed like Kinect Sports Rivals and please don't anyone count multiplatform games , and im sure gamescom will show more launch titles.which im sure people will be watching sonys gamescom like this.

[LaChance]

Article faker than free online multiplayer on the PS4.

No figures, not a single source, a forum poster named Aii who supposedly has all the info in two broken links ... How convenient.

One of the cheapest and obvious fake articles I've seen in a while.

[PeaSFor]

i asked at my local ebgames yesterday(small city in Canada) and the guy said 93 Ps4 preorders vs 28 X1

[gaffyh]

@LaChance - If that was indeed true, then the story wouldn't have gotten approved. Looked at it, and he is using figures from insidegamer.nl, who appear to have got the info from two retailers. So he's not pulled it out of nowhere.

With that said, EU is PlayStation territory, they're bound to be ahead. It's only UK that leans towards Xbox.

[Bhuahahaha]

@georgeeNOOB

why would i play world of tanks at the 360?

[AceBlazer13]

@Georgenoob killer instinct is weak bro if you wanna count a ftp in exclusives then ps4 has Xbox beat.Tekken revolution is a more complete game compared to killer instinct.

[slayorofgods]

wow, great news...... oh its just in Netherlands

My reaction reading the first sentence.

[Kryptix]

@georgee

According to vgchartz, US PS4 game preorders are dominating US Xbox One game preorders almost 3 to 1. (In total sales.)

--

Battlefield 4 (PS4): 67,486 / (Xbox One): 29,390

Call of Duty: Ghosts (PS4): 66,548 / (Xbox One): 45,749

Watchdogs (PS4): 79, 995 / (Xbox One): Not even in the top 40 or over 29,390 preorders

--

I guess that's a rumor to you, too. Especially since the US is all about the Xbox. Just admit it, Microsoft lost more than half of it's Xbox consumers. If they lost it's #1 country, they certainly lost every other country. You're just in denial like every other Xbox loyalist. The PS2 is back and more powerful than ever.

http://www.vgchartz.com/pre...

[JunioRS101]

that $399 sweet spot will take the world.

[pyramidshead]

@george

"And 360 is getting World Tanks incase you didn't know."

aha....ahahahahaha...bahahaha hahahahaA!

[n4rc]

I love how the fanboys conveniently missed the "you may not have a ps4 at launch even with a preorder" article..

Who cares if you sell 200 preorders per store.. If you can only provide 100 then it doesn't really matter.. Will just lead to pissed off customers

But I don't see why sales even matter to people.. Both will do well.. Ms doesn't even need the revenue and sony is making a profit from day one (ms too) so really.. What does it matter to you?

But to pop the biggest bubble here.. Are you forgetting that Xbox owners don't need to preorder games anymore? Download on day one with no crowds or wait..

[sic_chops]

Haha George... I can't believe you aren't out of nickels and dimes yet. Keep taking it from m$

[jmac53]

If my experience is the norm, then the PS4 will take NA. I had an Xbox the past 2 generations and then MS screwed the pooch with the X1. Even with all the backtracking they couldn't save this fan.

[Ritsujun]

RIH, Xbone180.

[3-4-5]

As long as the economy is what it is, Getting essentially the same product for $100 less, DOES mean something to NA and it will be a factor.

[bjmartynhak]

"And 360 is getting World Tanks incase you didn't know."

lol, loooooooool!

Cheers man! That was awesome!

[Muffins1223]

I think Sony will get around 70% percent and Microsoft will get around 30% in north america by 2014.In japan Sony will get around 95% and Microsoft 5% lol. In Europe i think Sony will get 80% percent and Microsoft 20%.

[Deividas]

Im all for Sony dominating and whatnot but damn...those are some large margins there man...I think Sony will keep the sales ahead of MS but those might be a little too big..

[Muffins1223]

I know for a fact im right about japan

[HammadTheBeast]

I think after first year, if things are going as they are, it'll be a 60-40 ratio with PS4-One in NA, 98-2 in Japan, 65-35 in EU, and overall 70-30 in rest of the world due to cost alone.

[FullMetalTech]

I have to agree. A lot of that is that features for Xbone wont be available to those regions at launch and who knows down the line. The PS4 will be cheaper to those other regions from the start when you factor in the conversion rate s well.

[sync90]

I think ps4 is going to dominate in EU just as much as the ps2 did.

[NateCole]

If sony can pull even in NA that will be a big accomplishment. xbox brand is now massive in NA. 70-30 in EU and 53-47 in NA in PS4's favour.

My prediction anyways.

[thetruthx1]

Preorder sales are nothing just wait till Microsoft opens the orders back up at places like Gamestop, Best Buy, Toys R Us, etc.

Microsoft hasn't even started the huge Xbox One campaign with commercials on all of the major channels.

Ms is going to take a huge Xbox One logo stamped shit all over world closer to November lol it's going to be everywhere and people will swipe their cards, write them checks, and drop that cash :)

[Akuma2K]

That's right, keep hope alive......lmaoooo (don't hold your breath)

[Clarence]

M$ did all that this gen with the 360. They also had a year headstart and a cheaper console than the PS3. Yet they ended up in last place.

The PS4 is cheaper and more powerful. M$ pushed a lot of gamers away with their anti gamer policies. They also won't get a year headstart this time around.

The PS4 is going to dominate.

[Scatpants]

I'm guessing it's going to be pretty even in NA. There are a lot of people that don't preorder consoles. The rest of the world Sony is going to have a clear advantage.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

So in other words...Microsoft will advertise their new console? Shocker. A man guesses MS is the only company who can advertise now.

[sic_chops]

...and they will get home and realize that they still need their cable boxes and have to pay a subscription to use cable features. They will realize once again how M$ duped them when they realize M$ will stop making hardcore games halfway through the cycle. And before you say it, I've owned 3 different 360's so don't go there. Keyword= owned

[Chevalier]

Really won't help. Opening preorders I won't sell. Slow to sell my remaining stock which is ridiculously low for xbox one. Giving me more units doesn't mean sales at all. My store is 241 ps4 (guaranteed units) and only 42 xbox one.

[Misaka_x_Touma]

Nintendo rules Japan

[devwan]

@DayZ "With the toss up being UK which could go either way "

It's far from a toss up at Amazon:

http://s2.n4g.com/media/11/...

[IQ155]

Why so ill informed? In UK Amazon sales, PlayStation 4 (Yes it's PlayStation, not Playstation), is at the #3 spot, whereas the XBOX ONE, is at #81. More of a difference. I maybe be incorrect, but I think the pre order numbers you posted are from more than a month ago. :)

[devwan]

@IQ55 Since I created the graphic I linked to for a blog post I can confirm that I used current data form the very end of July, so it's less that 2 weeks old.

Yes, as you pointed out, there is an Xbox One in the chart in the 80s, but there is also one in the 30s (currently 32) that you seem to have missed - the day one edition.

I'm all for showing how well the ps4 is doing vs the xbox one in Amazon pre-orders, but not at the expense of all the facts ;-)

[Cyanide85]

The only market that seems to interest MS right now is the US, and we will se good that works out for them.

@georgeenoob, just to inform you that the so called X1 "exclusives" will probably be released on the PS4 in maybe 1-2 years especially if the PS4 hardware outsells X1 like it seems to do as of right now anyway.
You see what you call "exclusive" titles like DR3 for example like Divedas said it's highly likely a timed exclusive which means that in maybe 1-2 yeas I will be playing it on my PS4, most of the big exclusives on the X1 are highly likely to be timed exclusives.

MS is very good at telling you the truth although it's always never the whole truth

[jmac53]

Add in Titanfall as one of those "exclusives" that we will be playing on the PS4 in a year.

[xXxSeTTriPxXx]

And it will be the definitive verison with all dlc free.

[YNWA96]

Can you guys keep this for the playground, then when you get older and think about talking to girls, these things will not be so important. Buy what you want, enjoy what you buy or buy both and get the best of both worlds, and get on with it and be happy. Otherwise, go fck off to a corner and carry on your miserable existence....

[showtimefolks]

not surprising price matters now more than ever with world in tough economy

i full expect ps4 to sell the most

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Noooooooooo! Not the Netherlands! Anything but the Netherlands.

Now I'm canceling my X1 pre order because of this news.

[imdaboss1]

yup ps4 is cheaper and it will haev more exclusive games than the xbone..They ddidnt dealt all their cards yet..Gamercon goin to be epic for Sony PS4..

[Lovable]

Meh we all know for a fact that NA > whole world.

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

Sarc?

[NatureOfLogic]

Sarc much. He's just giving an prime example of the average Xbox fanboy mind.

[fermcr]

He's being sarcastic. Actually he's just giving an prime example of the average Playstation fanboy mind. Every time NPD sales are released, playstation fanboys claim "World sales > NA sales".

BTW... World sales > NA sales.

[aceitman]

um ps4 is owning na too.just incase u missed it.

[MusicComposer]

Yes, the PS4 is far ahead of the X1 in preorders at Amazon at least. Their "best sellers of 2013" list shows which products have had the most orders so far this year. This is where they currently stand:

#3 - Playstation 4 (Launch Edition)
#6 - Xbox One (Day One Edition)
#35 - Playstation 4 (Standard Edition)
#67 - Playstation 4 (Watch Dogs Bundle)
#69 - Playstation 4 (Battlefield 4 bundle)

The only currently available Xbox One console isn't in the top 100 products yet. It's being beat in sales by the likes of the original Kinect sensor, a 1-year PS Plus subscription, and a Wii Classic Controller. This is about the clearest real/truthful data we have comparing preorder popularity.

Link for reference:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

[The_Truth_24_7]

Murica!

[elhebbo16]

You make us North Americans look bad.

[Smoovekid]

PS: 4

Xbox: 1

[dcj0524]

Oh thats clever lol. I didn't even see that.

[GribbleGrunger]

Are you from Gaf or do you read Gaf?

[Smoovekid]

Plagiarism! lol

I read it at Gaf.

[Sitdown]

No figures shown to make this even to begin looking somewhat credible, survey links are broken.... Not a coincidence the background is a flame.

[gamertk421]

Never trust the Dutch.

[sync90]

Never write dumb comments.

[NeutralXP]

Meh and who cares stupid article

[IQ155]

Woah, I didn't know you spoke fanboy!

[Angeljuice]

@Neutral

You do, or you wouldn't have posted.

[SpideySpeakz]

fannnnnnbooooooooooy.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Once again how can the ps4 be leading with that margin when x1 is sold out. This article is invalid and totally infallable.

[NatureOfLogic]

Your precious Xbox 180 will get smashed by PS4 in sales. And yes, I do have a crystal ball.

[PS4isKing_82]

Probably cause Sony had a bigger amount of consoles to pre sell which would mean more sells.

[NexGen]

Because the ps4 stock is massively larger than the x1, hands down. There are simply more available than the x1, and it is peculiar.

[OlgerO]

On the largest online retailer bol.com in the netherlands, the day one PS4 has been sold out since 31 July and xbox one day one is still availible so your comment is invalid

[jmac53]

They are taking more preorders than they have stock based on demand. They will try to meet that demand by ramping up production but it looks like some people who ordered aren't going to get one this holiday.

[SpideySpeakz]

lol...Wow.

Are you really that clueless? lol

[SilentNegotiator]

"how can the ps4 be leading with that margin when x1 is sold out"

.....by having made 4x more available in the single region that is the Netherlands?

[Hicken]

I've got 25 PS4s.

You've got 10 XB1s.

We both sold out.

I'm doing better than you.

Simple, yeah?

I hope so, cuz I don't think I can dumb it down any further.

[SilentNegotiator]

Spare us the technical jargon, Hicken. Which system has more pre-orders?

/s

[MRMagoo123]

you know i honestly dont think he will understand that. Amoazon shows ps4 having more sales, every local eb games and jb hifi i have been in have said the ps4 has at least 2 to 1 ratio to xbone, all the polls say ps4 more preferable by a large margin yet these xboners still cant see it.

Instead of arguing about it and trying to claim its false like they(xboners) do about the ps4 hardware having a large advantage they (xboners) should just say " ah well the ps4 will do better and has better hardware but i dont care because im gonna enjoy my xbone just as much".

I can bet you if they did this there would be not as much arguing in general and ppl would talk more about games than sales and hardware, we(gamers in general) all know the ps4 has better hardware and is going to sell more.

[Gekko36]

@Hicken - The consoles haven't been release yet and your bitching.

Oh and Sony stated charging for Online play because of many things including the fact that they have only just gotten back into the black and would like to stay there.

Either buy a PS4 or an Xbox one when they are out. In the mean time have a wank or watch telly.

[YNWA96]

Mrmagoo, you went to so many stores to ask that question? That is so sad.... How many anoraks you have? I never thought you could reach that low.... No life ......

[reko]

@frigid

how do you know theyre sold out? or youre just making stuff up again like always?

[iiwii]

Imagine this:

Amazon to Sony: "We need some PS4's for pre-order"
Sony to Amazon: "Okay, here we give you 200,000 units for pre-order"

Amazon to Microsoft: "We need some X1's for pre-order"
Microsoft to Amazon: "Okay, but we can only get you 50,000 units for pre-order"

Does the picture get any clearer for you now?

I won't even go into the fact that Amazon sold out of PS4 preorders (as did others) and Sony upped their allotment and now they have sold out again. :-)

[christrules0041]

I honestly think Sony thinks they are done for day 1 pre orders and then AMD tells them to keep going, they can fill the demand. That would explain why the keep closing it and then opening it again.

[Gekko36]

@iiwii for god sake get a girlfriend or a boyfriend. Have a shag and chill out.

[iiwii]

@Gecko36

LOL.. I get plenty of whatever I want. You seem to be obsessed with telling people to go have sex. I think maybe you are the one who needs to go chill.

[Xsilvermist]

Surveys says @frigid you mad

[MysticStrummer]

"Once again how can the ps4 be leading with that margin when x1 is sold out. This article is invalid and totally infallable."

It's comments like this that compel me to make jokes about people in the US being bad at math.

Also, you should probably look up "infallible" before you try to use it in a sentence again.

[LeCreuset]

Darn it! That's reading and math!

[sic_chops]

@ frigid it's called allocation. Using a word like "infallible," which you misspelled, I figured you'd be able to figure out that since M$ didn't allow as many for the PSONE as Sony has for the PS4, the PSONE would be behind and sold out due to M$ being way behind with production. I mean they seem to still be amateurs at this

[DigitalRaptor]

The reality of the situation is really going to be a tough pill to swallow, Frigid.

[adorie]

Contradicted yourself when you stated the article is infallable

[FanboyCrusher]

Keep in mind that pre-orders are not the amount of consoles made, or even shipped. What if consoles can't meet the pre-order demand? It's happened before. What if the Xbox not selling out is just due to extremely high manufacturing yields, they could simply afford it. And of course the big one, people mistaking sales with the "better console". When really it's personal preference, or what your funds allow you to do, and in this economy most people let their wallet control them. Getting rather sick of this pre-orders, and sales is everything crap. If that were the case everyone here would be Call of Duty fanboys too.

EDIT.
Gave it another read and this is what I find.
"After 568 responses:"
Not all from the same place mind you. Now we're going to base all of our information off of that small amount of responses. Change the title, it's flat out misleading.

And for anyone who disagrees, please reply, if you can't tell me why I'm wrong, you're wrong.

[user7402931]

yes, in this economy people are going for the most powerful cheapest console. that being the playstation 4.

[FanboyCrusher]

Cheapest, that's all. The hardware is the bonus.

[NatureOfLogic]

Being cheaper is the only reason Xbox 360 was relevant this gen. We all saw what happened when PS3 and Xbox 360 prices were matched. Xbox doesn't stand a chance against Playstation head to head.

[elhebbo16]

@Fanboy If hardware was a bonus and you only focus on how cheap it is wouldn't you just get a WiiU?

[dcj0524]

I disagree because there are actual reasons to why "4:1" people prefer ps4 over xbox one. Its their personal prefrence but tothe majority so far the PS4 Is the "best console for them" at this moment so far.

[FanboyCrusher]

No there isn't, it was a very small group being picked out for writing up the flame bait. the 4-1 is false, it was selective. If they do a survey, they include all of it, or it's a crappy survey.

[kneon]

Every survey is coming up the same way, the ps4 always wins. Even my local newspaper had a survey and the ps4 won. They range from 2:1 to 20:1 but it's always the ps4 in the lead. 4:1 sounds quite believable.

[PositiveEmotions]

Wow the ps4 is basically doninating xb1 around the world in polls and sales and specs, whats left? Lol

[user7402931]

the wait...its unbearable.

[MRMagoo123]

i am not religious in any shape or form but amen to that lol.

[christrules0041]

The release date hopefully at Gamescom and more exclusive PS4 games.

[No_Limit]

Worthless poll. Nowhere on it has any link to Netherlands sale. It was based on a Dutch user of the name Aii (or whatever he is called)on NeoGAF posting a poll around the world.

The survey of the 4-1 ratio was a very tiny sample for North-America: (258 responses)
-PS4: 174 day one. 19 by end of 2013. 20 by end of 2014 and 45 won't buy.
-Xbone: 42 day one. 5 by end of 2013. 21 by end of 2014 and 190 won't buy.
Ratio by 2013: 4.1:1
Ratio by 2014: 3.1:1

Netherlands, really???

What's next, the Vatican?

[Bathyj]

I heard The Pope loves the Ps4. It was send from God.

[Jrxbarrett]

Yeah your GOD let anonymous hack your records from Sony. You might want to rethink your prayers there buddy.

[Tito08]

@Jrxbarret- Oh yeah? So how come my information remained the same, and how I got free month of PS+, Music Unlimited, and two PS3 and two PSP games, all of that as an apology for the inconvenience. FYI, we all have the same God, and God knows you're misinformed. You should rethink your prayers there BUDDY.

[christrules0041]

@Jrxbarrett Do you remember this?

http://ca.ign.com/articles/...

Or this?

http://www.engadget.com/201...

Maybe you should realize any company with an online infrastructure can be hacked and Microsoft has been hacked before as well. OHHHHHHHHHHH SNNNNNNAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP

[Gekko36]

@Bathyj No there is no such thing as god, the pope is only an elected official and the PS4 was made by the Japs, famous for Sushi and mass genocide.

[Tito08]

@Gekko36"No there is no such thing as god, the pope is only an elected official" That comment alone quickly prompted me to give you a disagree, just shows how sad & a social reject you are, only an asshole would say such a thing, which in this case you are, very disgusting someone like you represents the Xbox fanbase, & it's God FYI, if you think there's no God, then you don't believe in faith, wow what a hypocrite.

[koolaid251]

There is civilization in the Netherlands? lmfao

[mendelboaz]

We are quite civilized over here, yes (;

[AnteCash]

This is taken from american school book.
http://random-henry.blogspo...

[mendelboaz]

Good ol' Amerocan pride & prejudice.. "Our country is so big and mighty, why should we put any effort into learning about other countries?"

Just FYI: where our country is on that map, it's supposed to say 'Cheese, Windmills and Weed'

[Mr-Dude]

Grab an schoolbook and see for yourself. And stop drinking your koolaid... silly boy

[Imalwaysright]

And stupid americans wonder why people around the world dont like them.

[Ben Dover]

Funny thing is.. the Netherlands is more civilized than America will ever be.. lmfao.

[koolaid251]

I was being sarcastic lol

[Belking]

Netherlands...lol This stuff is hilarious.

[No_Limit]

I heard the tour will continue with Norway next. ;)

[reko]

@belking

do you know where netherlands is?

[Belking]

I do and it's a relatively small market in Europe. All this stuff about who's leading is pointless right now. We won't know the real numbers until next year. As long as the yen remains weak,it's gonna be rough on sony's gaming business. You guys are too caught up in these polls...lol All you care abut is them beating xbox but you have to look at the big picture. Even if they do sony's Ps business could still suffer. Don't forget about the vita too. if they don't get that going that will hurt ps4 as well. They have to make a profit earlier this time or they will be in serious trouble. It took PS3 about 5 years to start making profits and those were probably wiped away with ps4 development. Sony really needs ps4 to be a tremendous hit.......not just to beat MS but to save themselves from further damage.

[reko]

@belking

youre just bitter LOL

[Mr-Dude]

@ Belking
You are hilarious!

[urwifeminder]

Fantastic news now I can rejoice.

[obelix77]

I believe ps4 will out sell X1 at launch however, Xbox simply has more to offer in the long run Microsoft is investing in the future. Microsoft is investing on features Sony will eventually have to embrace or risk getting left behind tech wise. Its 2013 its time to start gaming like it is.

[AnteCash]

Yea damn sony for not giving us a cable box, instead they gonna make games on ps4, so disappointing.

[WeAreLegion]

What might these features be?

[Jrxbarrett]

Online services. It's not like ps3 owners know. They get what they don't pay for. Which is nothing. They don't even know what it's like to cross game chat. Why wasn't that boycotted and forced upon Sony to do? You mean to tell me that Sony is so customer friendly they won't even let you talk to your friend if they aren't playing the same game? Ps3 users got "Xboned". Ha the future is online. Titanfall! They said it will run best on Xbox one. if its a timed exclusive, you will get the shitty version. My bad.... I had to do it. Lol

[NatureOfLogic]

@ Jrxbarrett

Wow, I really just read that. smh

[WeAreLegion]

I know what cross game chat is. My Vita does it very well, actually. ;)

Titanfall will run better on PC. I guarantee that.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Jrxbarrett

Dude you represent that mass ignorance that is Xbox fanboyism.

I know what it's like to cross game chat on Steam, and I know what it's like to cross game chat on the PS Vita. I have cross game chatted for free. I know exactly what it's like, and not being forced to pay for it by a greedy, controlling corporation is just beautiful.

"Why wasn't that boycotted and forced upon Sony to do? You mean to tell me that Sony is so customer friendly they won't even let you talk to your friend if they aren't playing the same game?"

I'm going to educate you, you poor misinformed, bitter soul. You CAN talk to your friend on PS3 if they are playing different games. It's called text chat. The reason you can't voice chat across different games is a system OS memory allocation problem.

PS4 doesn't have any of those problems, so no the PS4 is not "Xboned".

Titanfall... LOL.

[dragon82]

@Jrxbarrett

So party/cross game chat is all that made Live a "better" service?

The Vita has Party/cross game chat and all the other features available on the PS3 for the exact same price as the PS3. FREE!!

Looks like 360 owners got "Xboned" hard on that deal.

[elhebbo16]

Kaz said that the PS4 will first focus on games because thats what matters, later they will continue to update the PS4's ecosystem.

"Sony will eventually have to embrace or risk getting left behind tech wise"
but how since they have the better hardware? and the UI can easily be updated to fix things.

[Rimeskeem]

knowing that the sony developers know how to use the amount of power being in the PS4 they will make games perfectly now and also mark cerny made sure that the ps4 would look better as it went on

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

@obelix77
Would you TRUST MS for your gaming future?

[lcsapo]

What can MS more offer in the long run? Seriously? A cable box? I have one and it is just fine, but wait a little and you'll see the PlayTV for PS4 just as for PS2 and PS3. Kinect 2? Even if it works it is just not such a big addition to the PS4 Eye as you can not use that in real games in such a clever way you might think (look back everything they promised for the first one). Cloud? It was confirmed that Sony has the similar, just not riding on it now as it is not something magical new thing, and it can not be implemented in games so easily as many people think. XBL? PSN(+), and don't forget those features will not be available at launch outside the us. (and int the EU not everybody can talk so fluent EN,DE,FR... language to talk to the camera.

[thetruthx1]

@Deividas If the Xbox One lineup isn't looking so hot what exactly do you call the Ps4 lineup with one AAA title (just being fair) I don't think Killzone looks good at all it looks very repetitive and when compared to other games that we're seeing the graphics look very fake just colorful.

Knack- looks like a ps3 game, weak platformer

Driveclub- looks like a ps3 game, 30 fps

DC universe- same thing here bad graphics nothing to show off a new console. I won't speak on the gameplay because we haven't seen enough of it but it's a MMO hmmm....

[Rimeskeem]

killzone is amazing and way the hell less repetitive then ryse and also knack was developed by mark cerny and he knows the ps4 better then anyone and also infamous second son will destroy any exclusives for the xbox one

[thetruthx1]

Ryse has the best graphics shown and has 100 finishers. Infamous isn't that great I've seen the same 3 trailers you have. Killzone looks like shit lol how or why you guys praise that game is unfathomable' Halo 5 will murder Killzone in every aspect of gaming like always

And just because Cerny created Knack doesn't make it a good game. A well respected name (to Sony fans) Cerny can't turn a turd into gold

[DigitalRaptor]

Ryse still looks like a linear, dull-paletted, soulless action game, from what I've seen so far. I'm not going to be ignorant enough to write if off completely though, as we haven' t seen everything it has to offer.

inFamous: Second Son is an early 2014 open world title. At this stage, it is both visually beautiful and impressive, has fluid animations and gameplay and most importantly, it looks incredibly fun, and we still haven't seen a ton of what it has to offer, including multiplayer. That game is looking leaps and bounds better than Ryse is multiple aspects, not just visuals. Unsurprising since Second Son was a next-gen game from its inception, unlike Ryse.

You've seen trailers for it? I know how you guys are all about how gameplay > graphics. Explain how Ryse can even compete with Second Son in terms of gameplay, let alone overall experience? http://www.youtube.com/watc...

"Halo 5 will murder Killzone in every aspect of gaming like always "

This is the battle cry of the Xbot, and it's hilarious. Just face that people don't prefer Halo for their reasons and people don't prefer Killzone for other reasons. Killzone 2 (esp. its multiplayer) is still better than the most recent Halo games - if Shadow Fall is anything like KZ2, I think we have nothing to worry about, but since they've gone for a more open level design, I'm not worried about it not standing out as something great. I'll have to wait and see more though.

Knack - well I'll play it when it I get through the games I'd rather play first.

[MRMagoo123]

lol

"Knack- looks like a ps3 game, weak platformer

Driveclub- looks like a ps3 game, 30 fps"

The only games that look this gen that are on next gen consoles are on the xbone, i have seen them in action and ryse (the graphic powerhouse) looks terribad live, and you know why it looks like a 360 game ? cos it was a 360 game, same as DR3.

[yellowgerbil]

MS really shot themselves in the foot with their terrible decisions. They bandaged it, but they will still have to deal with the blood loss.

As for the games.
MS launch is no better than Sony's
KI is made by a developer that has never made a good game, in fact they have made some of the VERY worst games of the current gen. GIJOE for instance. I hope the game is good, not for MS but to give me hope that they won't completely be incompetent with the new Strider, but I don't have much faith that they can manage either franchise with competence.

The rest of their games are pretty ok, dead rising is the main thing they got going for them, which is about even with Killzone. both are So SO, neither are great.

Both companies may still have games up their sleeves that we could completely change the exclusives landscape, personally I'm holding off on any game purchases for the hope that Hot Shots will be announced as a PS4 launch title.

[jah-Fu]

4 to 1 more 14 y/o jerkoffs online landing on ps4. Fine by me. Makes Live that much better as far as i'm concerned. Hope that trend continues. Thank you sony!

[Tito08]

Lol well, it won't matter to you, but it sure matters to MS that those 14 year olds that perhaps is a big portion of the Halo/Gears/COD user base is going to a different console this time around, whether someone is a kid, teen, young, adult, or senior, a sale is a sale, whether you like it or not.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

DOOM... /s

[AgentSmithPS4]

I want the PS4 so badly that I had a dream I had a time machine.

In the dream I actually thought about the movie "click" with adam sandler, I was considering the good and bad things that might happen if I went to the future.

People tried to steal it and I never got there so I can't tell you what happens :(.

[giovonni]

Good , that means I don't have to scramble or pull an all nighter

[Rimeskeem]

and if at gamescon sony shows more exclusives and the ones we want and gives more launch titles then ps4 could take the world easy

[XisThatKid]

honest question, who is surprised if this is true?

[wtopez]

The Netherlands. Where the console wars begin and end.

[TheFutureIsBlue]

Xbone is coming with a giant bandaid to cover the console from all the booboos the Ps4 gave it =p

[rluttrell]

Honestly though the xbox one will come with a sticker and a power brick for free. The ps4 won't even come with batteries! I'm only 12 but xbox 4 lyfe.

[SmileyTown]

this comment made me lol

[rluttrell]

At least we can all agree that they need to hurry up and release these shits!

[BLAKHOODe]

Preorders are one thing, but it'll be really interesting to see how sales go over the course of 2014, as these consoles will then be in people's homes, blowing minds, doing amazing things. THEN we'll start to see which is the preferred console.

(Keyword being "preferred". Not necessarily meaning better.)

[Jiggy7d]

4:1?Not surprised.......I think the rest of Europe is more like 10:1........the real console war battlegrounds will be North America and UK and Australia.....the rest of the world is pretty much Sony territory just like it was in current gen.

[H0RSE]

It seems like many people are taking pre-order data to mean much more than it actually does, some even going to the extent that based on pre-order data, PS4 is going to "win" the entire generation...

Sony fans...in the words of Winston Wolfe, "let's not start sucking each others dicks quite yet."

I'm not denying that Sony is in a commanding lead at the moment, and that they are going to have a very solid launch, both for console and game sales, but the generation is going to last anywhere from 6-10 years, perhaps longer, and a lot can happen in that time. Trying to convince yourselves or others, of anything other than a strong start, is simply jumping the gun.

Sony very well could be the "victor" this generation, but let's wait until until the consoles actually come out and are around for awhile first, before sounding the victory trumpets.

[maniacmayhem]

I wonder how Iceland is doing with pre-orders. Perhaps we can get a report of pre-orders in Samal.

I know the console war will be fought at the front lines of Mauritania, I hope a list of pre-orders come out there.

[KILLNSFUN]

Here in the states, ( well, atleast where I'm at in California ) the PS4 is dominating console preorders. Microsoft has become the butt of gamer jokes here in America. The NSA contreversy really hit home for alot of us and that bit of mistrust is not easily forgiven. Gamestop employees are very open to their longtime customers here and I get the same story from every associate. Ps4 is destroying the xbone in preorder sales with some stores having a 7 to 1 ratio. America will definitely be a playstation nation.

[maniacmayhem]

Have fun on N4G my new found friend.

[H0RSE]

I find it odd that the NSA controversy with MS really hit home with people in your area, despite the NSA controversy (PRISM in particular, which is what MS was claimed to have been linked to) that takes place with many other companies, as well with the internet as a whole and phone lines.

here are some other companies claimed to have been linked to PRISM:

Yahoo
Facebook
Google
Apple
Dropbox

So in the light of this outrage that happened over MS and the NSA controversy, I'm sure these people will also stop supporting Flickr, Tumblr, Macs, iPhone, Facebook, Instagram, Google, Gmail, Windows, Hotmail, and YouTube, among other services and devices, right?

There's also evidence suggesting the NSA entered into "collection partnerships" with AT&T and Verizon, that permitted tapping their fiber links, so should I expect them to also stop using their phones?

[ufo8mycat]

If things turn out with PS4 full on dominating, maybe not PS2 times but simliar, this could be bad news in the long run because then you have to ask yourself, would Microsoft pull out of the console market?

Competition is healthy and please remember people, Sony are going full on because of Microsoft, because of competition.

[gamingfriend]

^^^^agreed on that one dude

[gamingfriend]

This is proberly ms last console, well I mean I hope so, I want companies like samasung even apple to come in a compete with sony I think if samsung done one it would be awesome, but atm sony is king xbox the snotty nosed kid,bless.

[NobleRed]

European know that the X-Bone sucks.

[crambar]

For all the people questioning how relevant the Netherlands are. It's actually the most densely populated country in Europe and selling your consoles in places like this does matter.

I actually game with quite a few Dutch gamers and they are among the nicest gamers out there. Certainly not like a lot of the childish idiots from the "Big" markets who throw insults around like confetti and think nothing of using Racist and Homophobic language towards people just because they aren't doing well at a video game.

[paul-p1988]

*Insert 4>1 comment* lol

[True_Samurai]

Yawwwn Sony Fanboys are eating this up. I saw a few saying it's going to take over NA??? Hahaha X-D

[RandomDude655]

It's going to beat the xbox everywhere

[True_Samurai]

Come back when I have a f@%& to give you son

[cyclindk]

The United States of AMERICA is the only region in the entire universe that matters... all other country is insignificant to the power of the force. Enough! Vader release him!

:( Vader sad face beneath mask, "yes creepy old guy..."

...hmmm, I wonder, if it can be argued that George Lucas' "force" metaphor is, in actuality, an endorsement for 'physical/metaphysical' ; violence in place of non-violent negotiation. Not that I oppose or promote either stance exclusively.

Battlefront 3 FTW!!! Deathstar Kill Streak reward, AC-130 Super Destroyer motha! Attack Nerfs with bombs strapped to their... backs, or whatever nerfs have... kill streak. Lightsaber knife kill sucka! Wookie teabag beeoch!

Good morning

[ArthurJKlarke]

MicroSHAFT shoud just cancel the XBONE and save money

Cut ur losses Steve BALDmer!!

LMAO101!\\\!""123

SONY invented console gaming!

H3ll invented gaming altogether!

Y pick a knockoff if u can get the real thing!??

/i

[smokevf]

You seriously dont know gaming if you think sony invented console gaming.

[ElementX]

I'm getting tired of these articles favoring one console or the other. I have both pre-ordered and they're both going to do well enough to keep developers happy. It doesn't matter if one or the other is a few million ahead. It's just giving fanboys a reason to rant

[GraveLord]

Good for you but not everyone has the time or money to invest in 2 next-gen consoles, especially with current-gen still putting out great games.

[Keregan]

That gives us a good idea of what the demography looks like in the Netherlands for every single sane person there is 4 foolish dumbass :P

[JunkieJedi]

Looks like you'd fit right in with the majority! When are you moving??

[Keregan]

Yup i fit right in, shall i take a ticket for you to :P ?

[Red_Devilz]

But...but...but....Minor Nelson already unboxed XB1! Does that count as XB1 leading PS4 1:0 in total global unboxing (at least till today)?

[arbitor365]

the xbox one will have no foreign market. I have said it from day one

[RandomDude655]

They won't even have a domestic market. Americans are big on value, which is the ps4

[GraveLord]

The UK and the US seem to be the most volatile markets. It just so happens those are Microsoft biggest markets. All Sony needs to do is take marketshare to "win". They don't even have to outsell the Xbox One.

[joefrost00]

Who cares
The fact you use preorders or any sales to justify your argument is basically admitting to an followers mentality
Most people would by there console off choice if no one preordered it
Well at least I hope so

[GABRIEL1030]

100 bucks !

[BG11579]

At this point, this is hardly news. It was expected...

[Jiggy7d]

The question is how the console war will play out in the US, the rest of the world is pretty much Sony territory.

[Iceman_Nightmare]

This is true, I live in Holland. PlayStation 4 is outselling XBOX ONE consoles by a big mile in Curacao too.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

Lets be honest here... PS4 is winning and will continue to gain strength, many people that owned 360s are making the switch to PS4. Sometimes it feels good to change.. new can often feel better.

[steve30x]

The only one thing thats putting me off the Xbox One is the fear of the return of the DRM.

[hairy]

I hope MS pulls out ...of gamers asses. I kid! I wouldn't miss them, halo ended at 3 and so did gears. both are just being milked heavily now. Maybe with Ms gone Nintendo could stop pretending they are not in the race and make a decent console on par with the competition. they tried with gamecube vs xbox/ps2 there is no room for 3 consoles on the market

[AllroundGamer]

i think the global sales will be about 3:1 for PS4, MS shot themselves in the foot this time, only the rednecks in the US will still buy such product just because it's made in Murica.

[USMC_POLICE]

Preorders are great but as a former best buy employee I can say the masses is what will declare a winner and the masses don't preoreder they buy after a system is released and they buy according to price. If that holds true it will be a Wii u and ps4 kind of generation.

[christocolus]

Is this an election now? I have never really believed in polls. Most people I know do not even participate in these polls...I believe the final story will be made known after the christmas hollidays...may the best man win.

[smokevf]

Im getting a xbox one because all around its better multiplayer. Im not a fanboy so dont call me one. And the xbox one also has 8 exclusives at launch. Ps4 has what 3-4. Power dont mean shit your not gonna see that power when both are next to eachother playing and running the same game. Pre orders are higher for xbox one then ps4 at bestbuy..I work there.. theres nothing that makes me want a ps4. Killzone is killzone and I never really liked it. Knack lmfao do I even call that a ps4 title? Drive club looks like shit grand turismo 6 looks more next gen then that. Then theres xbox one. Forza 5 looks really good but im not a racing fan, project spark lmfao didnt playstation do this with little big planet? Ryse looks awsome now that its not a kinect title, deadrising 3 looks crazy in a good way, titanfall omg!!! killer instinct looks fun but doesn't look next gen to me, warframe is going to be sick now that its both on xbox one and ps4...was originally a ps4 console exclusive. .. halo 5 well havnt seen nothing about it but like I said about killzone goes the same with halo. The indys make me laugh, below what the fuck this is next gen not nintendo wii. In the long run ps4 will make more money, the xbox one will sell more consoles. How is this possible you might ask. Well the xbox one now has blu ray, sony owned that so they made a alot just for that. The xbox one is doing great in my store. More people come in asking for the xbox more then the ps4. It also helps microsoft push the xbox one out first, what I mean by that is theres people that didnt pre order the xbox one or ps4 but want the ps4. When they see a new console out they want something new....money burning a hole in there pockets...they cant wait so they will get the first that lands...I see it all the time...also theres alot of people that dont know anything about either console. There going to look at the xbox one and ps4...they will see ps4 399.99 xbox one 499.99. They will think the xbox one must be better if its 100$ more. People do this all the time they think...if im going to spend all this money im going to get the most money one so I have the best. I see this happen with alot of things like tv's and sound bars all the time.

[prettyboy12]

hahaha!delusion at its best people,you have fun with your all in one box there

[smokevf]

Im not the type to shit on but have fun with only being able to choose from 3 exclusive and launch. Playstation even said there selfs to microsoft you won games hand down but we won the fans. There even saying xbox one shits on them when it comes to games.

[Locknuts]

In Europe? Where people practically equate the FIFA brand with the Playstation Brand? No way!!

[_LarZen_]

Fake article to draw in the moths to the light. Seams to work like a charm...

[Jag-T1000]

Netherlands? A difference maker? I don't think so!

[redfirm]

so, to all who are saying this is a rumor.

here are the 2 biggest news sites in the Netherlands confirming that the ps4 is sold out, and that its outselling the xbox one.. have fun n4g i am back to neogaf

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/...

http://www.nu.nl/tech/35465...

[ZHZ90]

Awesome, thanks.

[JumpingJames88]

It's only one nation, but I think this result will crop up for most of the world. NA is Microsoft's only chance to obtain any significant % of the market.