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The Last of Us: Why David Is The Greatest Character of This Generation

Ruaidhri has chosen an unlikely character to be his favourite not only of The Last of Us, but potentially one of the greatest written and acted characters of this generation.

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SethThePirate4307d ago

I didn't realise that until the credits, he nailed this role! Sounds like a completely different person unlike most of Nolan North's roles that sound like Nolan North :)

brodychet4307d ago

-Spoilers-
UH. one major question; did you realize david was a pedophile?

He was only interested in saving ellie to sleep with her; and this is not a joke.

I didn't see this is in the article. And I question how many actually notice this. He wanted her as his pet, and since she fought against him, he decided to kill her. That's why Ellie's last line before Spring was "He tried to..."

KUV19774307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

SPOILER:

It's just an interpretation. A valid one mind you, but she could also have been trying to say 'He wanted to slaughter me' and 'eat me' (for dinner, you know?). The almost-slaughtering-scene isn't more than an hour ago in game-time at that point. He could also 'just' be a sadist. After all he enjoyed the torturing part and mind tricks.

I really saw him more of a torturer than a pedophile, but there are various indices that support the pedophile-theory.

I totally agree however that I can'T share the views of the author. At no point has David been a good guy.

minimur124307d ago

See, i thought he soundeda bit like that guy from south park haha

Highlife4307d ago

@brodychet
Maybe a spoiler?
That is the impression I got too. Looks like he's had pets in the past but with Ellie it seemed to be more than that. I wanted to put an arrow through his head the moment I saw him. To me he always seemed like a creeper.

DVAcme4307d ago

@brodychet: I wouldn't go so far as to say he's a pedophile, but he DID have sexual intentions towards her. But I wouldn't call it pedophilia, since first of all Ellie's a teenager(that's ephebophilia, and it's nowhere near as bad as straight-on little kids pedophilia) and second the desperation of any female companionship in the apocalypse would make anyone's standards relaxed.

However, the fact remains that David did not see Ellie as anything but prey and property, and that he's an AMAZING villain in how menacing he is. But also, the biggest thing about David is that, had the apocalypse not happened, he WOULD NOT be a villain. He'd be just an average joe like everyone else.

The scary part about the world of The Last Of Us is that morality and human emotion are replaced by sheer survival. Humanity is losing, both as a species and as a civilization. In fact, at the end of the game *MINOR SPOILERS* what's revealed is that the game's main argument is whether it's wise or even possible to keep our ideals and morals in the face of inevitable doom.

This is a beautiful game. Period.

bakagaijin784307d ago

@DVAcme, thats exactly how I saw it too. I think David saw Ellie as a female in a situation where there didn't seem to be any other females around. I don't think he was a pedophile; I saw him as a man who wanted a female for sexual reasons... and maybe even for genuine companionship.

brodychet4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

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@DVAcme You say it's not pedophilia because she's a teenager?

I'm pretty sure 14 still counts as pedophilia. What is 13 okay too since it's technically a "teenager"?

I'm sorry but it's straight up pedophilia. And I'm guessing you're going to say Bill wasn't homosexual as well? Because he was O_o

@bakagaijin78 Dude he decided to murder her after she declines his relationship offer. That's not someone who's looking for a genuine relationship. He's a pedobear. But he's a damn good character nevertheless.

itBourne4306d ago

This game is 20 years after the apocalypse, I would think 14 becomes an acceptable age, it was at many points throughout history. This isnt the world we live in today, its totally different. Also from what Nolan said, he did have a sexual interest in her. Joel is an INSANELY bad person as well. Probably what makes it worse for David is they essentially hunt humans. Not kill to survive but hunt them, at least that is what I got from one of the notes I found.

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WitWolfy4307d ago

The author must really be a fan of Nolan's work...

SethThePirate4307d ago

Actually no, I wrote this piece and generally I don't like Nolan North, think he's overused. He's essentially the Hank Azaria of the gaming world. Drake is a great role for him, but Deadpool, Superboy and Desmond are all a bit meh to me. For this role though, yeah I kinda loved him.

camel_toad4307d ago

@seththepirate

I agree but I'd also add The Penguin from Batman.

WitWolfy4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

Yeah I really disliked his persona in Batman: AC.. Dunno what he was thinking giving The Penguin an Australian accent...

brodychet4307d ago

and Dr. Richtofen from the Cod Zombies' Series.

Projekt4307d ago

I have a similar accent to Arkham City's Penguin and I'm not from Australia lol. Common mistake though so no worries.

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Ezz20134307d ago

yeah i was shocked when i saw he was David

really didn't see that coming at all

r214307d ago

Same here. NN has some crazy vocal range!

FrostyZipper4307d ago

Well written article imo. Up until the end I rather liked David too and it killed me when I realised that he was going to make his exit shortly after his abduction of Elli. The showdown with him in the restaurant was excellently done too, and easily one of the most chilling scenarios I've ever experienced in a video game.

WitWolfy4307d ago

Agreed...

*spoiler*

That restaurant scene had me on my toes just hiding from him!!!

tanookisuit4307d ago

Especially when the music ratchets up, every time you get a successful attack on him!

WitWolfy4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

Eeek double post!

Sketchy_Galore4307d ago

Spoliers...... I can't remember too many specifics but I got the impression there was always something a little darker about David. I recall some mention of Ellie being his latest 'pet' and I got the impression this meant he had had 'pets' in the past. He sounded a little too enamoured of Ellie when she was in the cell and he was telling her she was special. I didn't get the impression he was some heartless raper and pillager but I got the impression that maybe he might have pushed that relationship places it probably shouldn't have gone. I also remember getting the impression he let Ellie go to lead him to Joel. I should probably go back and play it again to be sure but those were just the impressions I had on my first playthrough.

camel_toad4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

Yeh I'm pretty sure, to put it bluntly, he screws his "pets" or something worse.

Valkyre4307d ago

^^Exactly... but it was such a well written character, because all the clues are there, and Naughty Dog treats her audience with respect, they will never go out and say "Hey David is a cannibalistic pedophile" and yet he is... and it is frightening that you learn these things piece by pice... and more so after actually spending sometime with him believing he is a cool guy...

Awesome character.

Also on the subject of treating the audience with respect, Naughty Dog did the same with Bill as well... nobody knows or even gets a clue that Bill is actually... gay, and yet you realise it after you leave town. No stereotypes no nothing could even remotely make you think something like that and yet it is true. Such well and respectfully written characters...

LoveOfTheGame4307d ago

I wouldn't go so far as to say there was no way to tell Bill was gay. They did do a good job not using stereotypes and making it slightly questionable, but it was pretty easy to tell Bill was gay. In the first 5 minutes you meet Bill he mentions his "partner", and I don't remember Bill being a cop or a lawyer.

lsujester4307d ago

But Joel had a partner in Tess without there being a big romance there. While I did infer that he was gay when he said that, I can see how it didn't click for others.

LoveOfTheGame4307d ago

Straight couples rarely, if ever, use the term partner for their significant other. While it is a common name used in same sex couples.

Also Bill has a little trouble getting to the word, so the second he said it was pretty obvious that Frank, was that the guy's name, were "partners".

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Flying_Squirrel4307d ago

Bang on the money (spoiler alert) - when the raiders arrive at the house with Joel and Ellie you hear them comment that she's not to be harmed as she's David latest 'pet' and that's not said in a nice way. I also think he was tracking her to find Joel. He was not a noble person at all as the article implies - it may be that things happened to him prior to the game that made him that way. Having said that, absolutely great voice acting which added to one of the greatest games ever made.

WitWolfy4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

*Spoiler*

Also what I liked about his character was that it seemed that even his followers were starting to doubt his leadership in the game.. So it could be that he screwed up A LOT in recent weeks/months leading up to Ellies kidnapping; making him more believable as a character showing himself has leader with flawed leadership characteristics.

A very well written character!

MikeyDucati14307d ago

The man was a pedophile. His character disgusted me.

stage884307d ago

But he was a great character for the game.

rdgneoz34307d ago

Pedophiles just seem to have a hard time fitting in :(

MikeyDucati14306d ago

A great character? The virus was a great character. You know who was really a great character? Ellie was a great character.

Just from my perspective, I have no positive notes to give to a man who likes to rape little girls. That crap disgusts me. To say he was a great character for the game is rather appalling.

The virus was a great character. His daughter was a great character. Ellie was a great character.

But a pedophile homo who probably was an outcast and did nasty things to little girls who were preyed on easily because of their innocence?

No, I won't go as far as to say "he was a great character for the game". That's nonsense. It's like people fascinated with Charles Manson, but he's a sick dude. I find no fascination with that crap.

stage884305d ago

@Mikey

Oh chill out. Talk about a massive overreaction.
Guess what, the character David, you know, the one that is made out of pixels doesn't actually exist. I'll let that sink in for you a moment.

Yes, there are terrible people in the world but in this instance it's all MADE UP. The character is great in the story as it brings more depth to having a post apocalyptic world where the true nature of people becomes prevalent. After the whole ordeal with David it brings Ellie & Joel a lot closer and builds upon their father and daughter relationship which is an extremely important and integral point of the game. Also the boss fight with David was extremely intense and added greatly to the atmosphere of the game.

I'm not disputing that there are some horrible people out there in the real world but this is a game. If you can't handle made up stories that deal with adult themes then stay away from mature games and also movies and TV shows. These are not for you.

MikeyDucati14305d ago

No, you chill out. I'm chill. What are you talking about? I can have disdain for a character if I choose to. What's it to you?

Why are you offended my individuality and my opinion? This is nonsense. Don't be silly and immature.

stage884304d ago

@Micky

It's your opinion which is fine but when you stay stuff like

"To say he was a great character for the game is rather appalling."
And
"No, I won't go as far as to say "he was a great character for the game". That's nonsense. It's like people fascinated with Charles Manson, but he's a sick dude."

It is utterly ridiculous. So by your logic people should be ashamed for liking a fictional character that adds an extremely important part to the plot because he's comitted terrible crimes as a villain.

So should the movie Hannibal not have Hannibal in it because he's a vile human being? Should The Dark Knight not have the Joker in it because he committed terrible atrocities?

Imagine TLoU without the whole Winter bit with David. The story wouldn't be half as emotional and character development would stagnate. The ending wouldn't have been believable.

It's one thing to have an infatuation with a character's evil deeds but its completely different to like a character for what they bring to the story.

MikeyDucati14299d ago

Ok but I can still feel the way I feel. Why are you even trying to debate with me about my opinion?

David was a disgusting character because he is a boy who preys upon those weaker than him. He doesn't have the inner strength to face those stronger than him. You saw that when he faced Joel.

Hannibal Lector I can respect because he is the complete opposite of David. He's not some weakling or punk. Hannibal actually kills the despicable.

Hannibal would have his way with a character like David. He would torture and kill that kind of person in fact. You wouldn't have even mentioned Hannibal if you actually read the books or even had some sort of understanding within your own nature. Because clearly I can recognize the difference between David and Hannibal.

So no, I cannot possibly sit here and say I enjoyed David's character because he added a certain flavor to the story.

That's nonsense because during times of the apocalyptic desolation, men like David would come to the forefront willing to prey upon people. If you look at history you would see such. I don't give such rewards to certain shards of the human race that is all too common. But most would compliment this dude when they lived sheltered lives and haven't seen the worst of mankind.

I'm a man of certain beliefs and principles. Giving compliments to a man like David, video game or not, will not be coming from my mouth. Period.

Mr-SellJack4307d ago

lmao i thought the article mentioned Joel and not David
this is biased,first part of TLOU is the reason why troy baker is the best now,should've replaced the headline"character"w ith supporting character that would've been much better,he wasn't that much implemented in the game but anyways outstanding performance by Nolan

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The Last of Us Complete Now Available on PS5, Physical Collector’s Edition Coming July

Two award-winning masterpieces, together in one incredible collection.

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Christopher22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

As expected. Unless it's going to Xbox or Switch 2, we can stop hearing about these older games now? We can move on to just news about new games?

darthv7222d ago

....until the PS6 remake followed by the PS7 reboot

Christopher22d ago

Man, first year of PS6 is going to be 90% remasters. I'm going to hate it and likely hold off until new games actually get released that I can't play on my PS5.

Cacabunga22d ago

Yes I’m waiting for complete remaster…. On ps5

OtterX22d ago

...20 years later, "you haven't heard the last of us yet!" *releases The Last of Us Retro Collection*

cloganart22d ago

@Christopher

Oof, yeah. I don't think I'm picking up the PS6 until "Pro" comes out 😂

Cacabunga21d ago

I haven’t played Tlou1 since PS3 and i have the greatest memory of it

Notellin21d ago

I'm already dreading all the cross generation games and remasters we'll see with the next round of consoles.

LonDonE21d ago

lmao this is getting ridiculous but thing is if people keep buying them.. then why would they stop making them?
Peeps STOP BUYING this game.. that actually hurts me to say this as the last of us is high up on my greatest games of all times.. its one of the few games i played through start to finish 3/4 times back to back as i loved it so much. But sony need to stop, give us a Resistance 3 remaster, i would love and buy that.. such an underated series as was killzone.
Or give us infamous.. so many great series and titles i would gladly buy but they just want to keep giving us last of us.

I am done buying that game.. i would only buy part 2 remaster if they remade it and kept joel alive, or i am not interested. Hate last of us 2s story killing off joel.. the actual game is stunning and incredible, they improved so much in the gameplay department but i hate the story with a passion.

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Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

We can stop hearing about it when they stop re-releasing them I guess.

I reckon the ps6 version will be 8k 240 and I'll still not care.

I miss new games from nd

Inverno22d ago

And HBO just announced season 3 even tho LoU2 couldn't possibly be so long that it wouldn't be able to fit in 1 season. They're just milking it at this point.

darthv7222d ago

speaking of the HBO series... I felt they should have made part 1 across two seasons, then address part 2 in seasons 3 and 4. so now i have a feeling they rushed through part 1 in season 1 to make season 2 a cliff hanger with Joel's impending demise being the starting point to Season 3.

-Foxtrot22d ago

I love how they decided to rush, chop and change things for Season 1 to get through the game yet for TLOU Part II it’s like “we’re going to do multiple seasons and take our time”

Inverno22d ago

Okay after seeing that there's only 7 episodes I take it back. Though I think it's incredibly stupid not to have just made the season longer. Another season just to finish what could've just been a 13 episode season seems counterintuitive but aiight. I put that on HBO tho.

Neonridr22d ago

This will be the 4th time Sony sells us The Last of Us Part 1.. And the 2nd time on the PS5.

Knushwood Butt22d ago

They don't want Metroid Prime holding that record,

NotoriousWhiz21d ago

Strange, I thought the record went to Street Fighter 2.

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FPS_D3TH22d ago

We are approaching Skyrim levels here

Profchaos22d ago

At this point we are at Skyrim in terms of frequency. Skyrim was one per generation. If you exclude VR Skyrim we've now exceeded it

Tlou 1 PS3, 1 PS4 2 ps5
Skyrim 1 ps360 2 PS4/x1/vr 1 ps5/sx

Tlou 4
Skyrim 4

Christopher22d ago

Not quite. Skyrim had:

PS3/360/PC
PS4/X1
VR
Switch
Skyrim Special Edition PC/PS4/X1
Skyrim Special Edition PS5/XSX

VersusDMC22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Also add skyrim bundles like the one below and all the humble bundles since that's what everyone is doing here

https://www.xbox.com/en-CA/...

darthv7222d ago

@Chris, LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base. At least Skyrim was able to sell to a wider audience via different platforms.

Christopher22d ago

@darthv72: I don't know why you're telling me that. I only corrected on number of Skyrim re-releases/ports/etc. I didn't say anything else.

Profchaos22d ago

@christopher guess I forgot just how much was out I think the special editions are technically one release despite being cross platform though would the Alexa version count

Christopher22d ago

@Profchaos: I guess, but I'd consider it a separate release since it rolled them into one at a later date but definitely there is a PS5/XSX version with PS5/XSX supported updates specific to them.

Chevalier21d ago

"LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base"

Weird. Like 35% of PS5 owners are NEW to Playstation. Plus this is really for new fans from the TV series for season 2 of TLOU.

I recall the same idiotic comments when the 1st one was remade just before TLOU TV Series came out and it went on the be one of the best selling games that year.

So maybe get your FACTS straight. Unlike Skyrim getting literally releases in 3 generations and 10 releases.

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Neonridr21d ago

I gotta figure RE4 is up there too

FPS_D3TH21d ago

No. Those are remakes. Not remasters

Neonridr21d ago

@FPS - we've had quite a few RE4 remasters, only 1 remake.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

@FPS_D3TH

It blows my mind how people do some mental gymnastics to try to cope with a game they like doing the same thing (technically more) they’re complaining about for another game.

RE4 - PS2, GC
RE4 w Motion Controls - Wii
Literally RE4 HD Remaster - Xbox 360, PS3
I’m assuming a port of RE HD - PS4, Xbox One
RE4 Remake - PS5, Xsex

1 Remake and the bunch are Remasters… how, I mean how—Y’know what, it doesn’t matter anymore…

P_Bomb22d ago

Store says I already own it. I guess it’s just a straight twin-pack. Looks like they added 4 maps to ‘No Return’.

VersusDMC22d ago

You don't need to buy this to get the maps, marlene and bill. It all got patched in to the game on the 3rd.

P_Bomb22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Good to know. I’ve watched runs of ‘No Return’ but have yet to try it myself. Soon, soon 😉

Knushwood Butt22d ago

Yeah, No Return got a content update.
Three new trophies too.

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A mysterious physical edition of a Naughty Dog game is in the works

billibil-kun: "As The Last of Us season 2 prepares to air on HBO, we've spotted a mysterious reference to a special edition of a physical PS5 game from the franchise. Here's our take on the game, which remains unclear for now."

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Relientk7732d ago

It's probably a bundle of both The Last of Us games

Nyxus32d ago

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. The Last of Us Part 1 + II Remastered.

lukasmain32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

That's totally what it is I believe. It would be a great bundle for new players getting into the ecosystem

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Goodguy0132d ago

They're really milking this franchise lol

anast32d ago

You must comment on every Mario, Zelda, and Skyrim article too.

darthv7232d ago

....because there has been the same mario, Zelda and Skyrim games for three console generations?

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isarai31d ago

@darthv72

Literally yes 🤨

Cacabunga31d ago

Every Mario and Zelda is different. This is just the exact same game over and over

anast31d ago

Skyrim, yes. Mario and Zelda since the 80's

Loktai31d ago

@darthv72 Uh yes. Yes it has. They milked BOTW across Wii U and switch and they STILL want 40+ for it new and never discounted it. They made "remasters" of older zelda games as well on switch and in the past onto the other gameboy platforms from the older platforms. They have done the same with Mario. They port the paper mario games and mario RPG to switch. And now I PROMISE you they are going to show "enhancements" for those same games on Switch 2. I PROMISE you thats going to get mentioned, maybe even tomorrow. Last of us Part 1 has been across techncially 3 generations, but 2 has been 2- and JUST BARELY 2 because it released just a few months before the PS5 did - and so if that counts as milking it, what do you call breath of the wild on Wii U then going to switch or Twilight Princess coming uot on gamecube and Wii - OR ZELDA WIND WAKER HD coming out?

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Chevalier31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

"Skyrim games for three console generations?"

Darth showing some idiocy here. Seriously yes Skyrim has been re-released more than any other game period. It's been released on 3 generations - PS3, PS4, PS5, PSVR, PC, PC VR, Switch, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S. That's 10 releases across 3 generations! So Seriously get your DAMN facts straight.

Yui_Suzumiya31d ago

And yet Fallout 3 has never been Remastered. Prison time should be given for that offense, lol

darthv7231d ago

Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much

thorstein31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

@darth GTAV says hi.

Skyrim has an Alexa edition.

Chevalier31d ago

Clearly a guy with business acumen! Why would Sony want to rebundle games and release them in time for the 2nd season of TLOU to release? I mean the last time a bunch of idiots laughed at Sony then guess what? TLOU part 1 for PS5 only hit top 5 sales and kept popping onto charts throughout the year?! Lol

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Chevalier31d ago

"Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much"

Multiple Mario and Zelda games have made 2 generations. Maybe you guys forget that over a 3rd of the gamers on Playstation have NEVER owned a Playstation system before and some are coming into it as a result of the TV show.

People said the EXACT same crap when the 1st game got released on PS5, but, it ended up being one of the best selling games the year it came out.

Also for all the idiots complaining. Playstation at least offer $10 upgrades for some of these games. Have you EVER seen a re-release by Nintendo, Xbox, Bethesda offer that?! No I didn't think so.

darthv7231d ago

releasing a newer version because the previous version is not physically compatible is not quite the same as taking a perfectly good existing game that already works on the newer platform and repackaging it under a remaster brand for that newer platform and then repackaging it AGAIN for the same platform.

And that whole line of *insert people here may not have had a PS before* is a line of BS. PS2 is the most selling platform in history... chances are very good a high percentage upgrade to the PS3 and then upgraded to the PS4 and are upgrading again for the PS5. So dont give me that line of bologna. you'd rather swallow every bit of Sony propaganda instead of call them out for milking (and yes this is milking) this game. You know there will be a PS6 version and likely a PS7 remaster.

Of course i am purely speculating on the 6 & 7 but there is a high degree of probability because of what they did already between 3, 4 & 5. And you defending even the $10 upgrade when most of the XB games get free upgrades is just another sign of your blind loyalty. I didnt think it possible and gave you benefit of the doubt but now I can see i was totally wrong.

Chevalier30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

@Darth

Again your examples are absolutely terrible. Repackaged games for new audiences isn't new with the high cost of development. This release is timed for people that are new to Playstation coming from watching season 2 of the TV show. If you're surprised and annoyed by this then stop gaming then. It will happen if there's some new Skyrim, Fallout, Doom or whatever TV show comes out too.

Also you're the guy who defends Xbox for this crap too. Skyrim releases were done while owned by Xbox.

Also you mentioned the PS2, repackaged games happened all the time then too. If you think that repackaged games is going to go away with the skyrocketing cost of development is going away then sorry cover your eyes and plug your ears and pretend like an idiot then. You will be complaining daily soon.

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OhReginald32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I hope it's both ps5 games bundled with all updates including the new no return add ons for April. I'll triple dip on that.

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First look at the DualSense wireless controller – The Last of Us Limited Edition

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Profchaos55d ago

I've liked the recent designs lately but this seems like a bit of a miss I would of expected a more tattered design it's to clean to really sell it as a tlou theme.

lucasnooker55d ago

Nice controller but where are the games?

BABI-PANGPANG55d ago

Not a big fan of the three white symbols. They fit too neatly on the controller, making the design feel too clean for the game's vibe. I think it would work better with either one large symbol or all three in different sizes, with parts cut off at the edges, like a quick, rough paint job meant to stand out rather than look polished.

darthv7255d ago

This controller will get a remaster on PS6 and then a remake for PS7.

MatrixxGT55d ago

Missed opportunity….they could have used the cordysceps virus strands wrapping out it. Spores, vines, anything pertaining to the actual series other than faction symbols.

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