PS4 Has Better Specs on Paper But Xbox One Games Impressive – Dev

An Xbox One developer has revealed that PS4 has better specs on paper but the Xbox One games looked as good as ones on a high end PC.

[TheLyonKing]

an xbox one developer speaks more postivly about the x1 than the ps4.

What a great and geniune fact he has just said then since he clearly has dabbled with both.

[HammadTheBeast]

Well, I guess that settles it. /s

He says that Ryse, Forza etc. look like they're played on high end PC's as if this doesn't look like that as well:

http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

[nukeitall]

I want to point out that most of Xbox One first party games are all 60fps, while KZ:SF is 30fps.

Having almost twice the time to render an image makes a huge difference.

"When it comes to the state of software development on PS4, the situation as it stands is surprising. On the one hand, freely playable first-party titles such as Knack and DriveClub suffer from noticeable frame-rate stutters down from 30fps, while on the other, "hands off" demos for the new Infamous and Assassin's Creed games appear to run without a perceptible hitch. This is in stark contrast to the playable software confirmed to be running direct from Xbox One hardware, such as Forza Motorsport 5 and Killer Instinct, which benefit to no end for targeting the 1080p60 gold standard, and largely succeed in doing so."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[shoddy]

About frame rate they are demo from a PC so until we see final product we can't jump to conclusion.
certain type of game can run 60fps easy cause lesser things happen at once.

A mustang can go 200m/h
what make you think a lamborgini couldn't.
Maybe it's a retarded driver?

[blackmanone]

"He says that Ryse, Forza etc. look like they're played on high end PC's as if this doesn't look like that as well."

Well, in all fairness, they ARE played on high end pcs :). Those one's they stick under the Xbox booth and pretend that there's a ONE in there :)

[psyxon]

nukeitall, i don't know whether to laugh or cry lol. i've been seeing your comments around and every one of them makes me facepalm.

[HammadTheBeast]

Driveclub is 60 fps so there goes that credibility. Next, when you look at Shadowfalls graphics and the amount of stuff going on, it's insane that its running on PS4. I'd even say it rivals crysis on high on PC.

[USEYOURFIST]

Isnt that because they were being played on high end PCs at e3 though lol

[FATAL1TY]

-Best graphics-

The Dark Sorcerer
Killzone Shadow Fall
infamous second son
The Order 1886
DriveClub
Tom Clancy's The Division

4 > 1. xbone is shit

[psyxon]

@fatality the order really doesn't get enough credit. such an overlooked game.

[JokesOnYou]

-Yeah OK and when Cerny says GDDR5 latency doesn't matter and how ps4 is the best, he isn't biased?

"It’s been really weird to watch Internet… everybody is freaking out about games running on PCs… plenty of PS4 games were running on PCs… all the demos of PS4 that I saw were running on PCs.” -Giantbomb
http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

"Software running on genuine, visible Xbox One hardware falls in with a small first-party club, including titles like Forza Motorsport 5, Killer Instinct, Ryse and Dead Rising 3." 
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

lol, so the most graphically intensive games like Ryse and Forza5 were indeed running on X1 hardware among other 1st party games.= Conspiracy thoery #1052 debunked.

[loulou]

it is true that at e3 the xb1 games running on the xb1 were damn impressive.

what should be noted is this. no one, m$, AMD or any devs have spoken about the xb1s hardware. yet everyone including AMD have spoken about the ps4.

coupled with the facts that there are rumours of NDAs in place until september, and m$ are going to be talking about xb1s silicon at hotchip on the 27th of august.

something doesn't ring true at the moment

perhaps the celebrations should be put on hold for a bit

[extermin8or]

Thing is I heard THEY WERE PLAYED ON A HIGH END PC not Xbox one's.... That statement makes the pictures that were revealed look all the more likely.

[FATAL1TY]

+ Deep Down -_-

PS4 is always better.

better hardware
better games
better design

[Syntax-Error]

No doubt in my mind that all multiplatform games will look almost identical. Just wanna see what Naughty Dog and R* have in store for us next gen. I buy games from both of those developers site unseen

[ABizzel1]

@nukeitall

"I want to point out that most of Xbox One first party games are all 60fps, while KZ:SF is 30fps."

Forza 5: Forza 4, Forza 3, and Forza 2 (if I'm not mistaken) have all been 60fps. Along with Gran Turismo PS3, Burnout Paradise, and Ridge Racer 6 & 7.

Killer Instinct: Practically 90% of fighting games have been 60fps the entire generation.

Titanfall: COD was 60fps on PS360. Titanfall looks graphically on par with Call of Duty on PC, and it's made be former Infinity Ward creators, so 60fps isn't hard to believe.

Halo 5: We have yet to see what the game looks like graphically, the target is 60fps, and it's not coming out until Holiday 2014 at the earliest.
......

Where is this "most" you're talking about. BF4 is coming to PS4 60fps, COD is coming to PS4 60fps.

Killzone is using Ray Tracing, features open level design, and is a launch title. On top of that Gureilla is working on Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4), Killzone Mercenaries (PSV), and a New IP all at the same time. That's an achievement (no pun intended) no matter how you try to spin it.

[SilentNegotiator]

"Obvious throwaway account. I won't be providing any proof or confirming/disproving rumors or anything that may give my identity away. Which is why I'm doing this in this subreddit. Believe what you will on what I say"
--The supposed Xbox One Developer

He's a "confirmed X1 dev" and yet he keeps his identity secret and 'doesn't care what you think and won't give any proof of anything he says'?

SHILL ALERT!!! WOOOP WOOOOOP WOOOOOP!!!

[pixelsword]

Yeah, but weren't they played on PCs at E3 and not actual Xbones?

[scott182]

Wow, killzone looks amazing....

[GrownUpGamer]

@ JokesOnYou
"Yeah OK and when Cerny says GDDR5 latency doesn't matter and how ps4 is the best, he isn't biased?

"It’s been really weird to watch Internet… everybody is freaking out about games running on PCs… plenty of PS4 games were running on PCs… all the demos of PS4 that I saw were running on PCs.” -Giantbomb
http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

"Software running on genuine, visible Xbox One hardware falls in with a small first-party club, including titles like Forza Motorsport 5, Killer Instinct, Ryse and Dead Rising 3."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

lol, so the most graphically intensive games like Ryse and Forza5 were indeed running on X1 hardware among other 1st party games.= Conspiracy thoery #1052 debunked. "

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Microsoft fart people hate the smell but when another brand/company do the same the smell for them is like flowers.

Its all about who's fart smell better for them.

[Ju]

60fps you say, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

vs.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Yeah, I take the later. Thank you.

[PSdomin8tion]

E3 Xbox One games ran on high end PC hardware. LOL's.

Dude writing this article must be outta the loop.

Funny how games at the beginning of a new generation look next gen, but as little as 2 years or less, the games get more insane looking.

EXAMPLE: Look how the Uncharted series evolved after the first one.

Still KZ SF, and the next Infamous, look fantastic.

[DragonKnight]

@JokesOnYou: People tend to take the word of a guy who is out in the public, going on record as the guy who BUILT the PS4, over some random "developer" who hides in the shadows and flat out says he's not going to provide any proof of what he's saying to be the truth. If anything he said is true, why is Microsoft afraid to discuss the specs of the Xbox One?

[Andreas-Sword]

The PS4 has more games:
http://www.playstationlifes...

And, SONY will announce more PS4 games at Gamescom and TGS:
http://www.gamechup.com/son...

Here is the list of all officially announced PS4 games:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
http://www.psmania.net/2013...

I think SONY will announce more PS4 exclusive games at Gamescom and TGS.
I think: Uncharted 4, God of War 4, Resistance 4, Heavenly Sword 2, Onimusha 5, Gundam 4, Samurai Warriors 4, MAG 2, Jak & Daxter 4, a new next-gen Ratchet & Clank game for the PS4, and some brand new PS4 exclusive IPs.

[Benchm4rk]

@moderators and everyone.

Only on N4G can a comment get + bubbles and deemed "well said" when it is in fact blatant fanboy trolling dribble. Check out FATAL1TY comment above.

"4>1, Xbox one is shit".

How the hell can that be considered well said. If the comment was ONE > 4 and the PS4 is shit I bet that would be taken down straight away. Absolutely pathetic N4G. Get your head out of your ass and set a standard for everybody. This double standard shit is really getting old.

[fr0sty]

This is like Sega trying to say the dreamcast's difference from PS2 only existed "on paper".

[Kryptix]

lol How can someone say the PS4 has better specs on paper but the Xbox One's looked as good as the one's in high end PCs without looking stupid? lol That whole sentence has many levels of wrong on it. First of all, saying something positive then adding "on paper" is just another way of downplaying and in this case, if you seen Killzone: Shadow Fall and Infamous: Second Son, the PS4 can do what Mark Cerny has been explaining this whole time. And the comparision of next gen consoles to high end PCs is just being blind. It's hard to compare something of 500 dollars to a high end PC worth 1000+ running at max settings. But of course, he's an Xbox One developer, boasting about their console and downplaying the competition is part of their job.

[Xyle]

Love the Sony fanboys on here

[BallsEye]

@Kryptix

He makes perfect sense and you are an idiot. To remind you xbox360 have superior specs on paper compared to ps3 (look it up) but ps3 pull of some superior games. You just automaticly admited that ps3 is inferior to 360 in every way and it's graphics suck. Fool.

[Mounce]

Lyon, how dare you accuse the authenticity of this man trying to boast the X1!
*moneybag gets slipped under the table*

X1 is totally great and can perform better than PS4 for sure!
*received a few more bills being tucked in back pocket*

For shame! PS4 won't stand a chance!
*has a coin get smacked against the back of my head*

[Docknoss]

Your moronical

[Mounce]

I can hear your jimmies being rustled like a diaper rustles

[CRAIG667]

what planet do you live on? pathetic fanboy strikes again.

[andibandit]

@Mounce

Arent you the same guy that claimed X1 will have the same failure rate as 360RROD.....
*Watches Mounce loose all credibillity*

[Mounce]

@andibandit

I said I predict. Not claimed. That X1 will have heat issues....it's structurally obvious if you look at what Microsoft is doing... -.-

Not claiming it as fact, I'm just saying openly what I think is going to happen. Why do you think 360 had such a high failure rate? Because they didn't care and had rushed it out without proper hardware optimization. Look at the PS4 and X1 size difference, look at how PS3 and PS4 doesn't need to have a GIANT BRICK - because Sony knows how to handle hardware with efficiency.

So - Me saying "I bet it will have heat issues and have hardware failures that are above the competition" is Logical, Rational, and reasonable. Nothing about credibility, I'm making an analysis based on the evidence I have and their lack of using X1's themselves at E3 unlike PS4 and Wii U. (I'd see this as a means of them not being fully prepared due to the risks being too high for X1 to shut down or fail in public and they didn't want to take the chance to get that publicity)

Mmmk?

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Realistically, that's what I been saying. The PS4's specs to sound better on paper. But what I saw at MS E3 was no graphical weakness and same with PS4. Sounds like both will deliver in the next gen graphical jump.

I will say Lens OF Truth will be very interesting come next year.

[Indo]

I say give it two years and we see a gap between what PS4 and XBOne can do graphically.

[Ju]

You can already see it. MS is just so much better with smoke and mirrors (like, hot air, aeh...like in the cloud). Forza in game looked nothing like Drive club - all those shiny images and "animations" you see are one car (!) and pretty much no environments - and looks nothing like that when it switches to actual game play. Must be blind to ignore that. Ryse...same...one character model gets all the attention, linear QT based game, as soon as it zooms away the distance is blurry or gets blocky (watch the water or the ships while he walks away) - the final cut scene is CG - and it can barely keep up with 30fps. Maybe we'll never find out, because it's still early but saying those games exceed the likes of KZ:SF or even Drive Club (less shiny but much more realistic details in cars and environments) is ridiculous. Of course a XBone dev will try to sell "his" console. He's payed by MS after all. What's with the disguise as a forum "poster". Another viral marketing attempt.

[LonDonE]

while i have my PS4 pre ordered, and wont be buying a xbox 1 due to principles, i refuse to support a company like Microsoft, people don't realise how bad M$ tried to screw the gamers, and they only reversed policies after PS4 pre orders were through the roof, and this coupled with the red ring of death, xbox has lost my support till they prove to me they are reliable, anyway regardless of this, i would be a liar if i dont admit the xbox 1 launch line up is more exciting for me, compared to the PS4 launch, i wish Sony would invest in some exclusive third party stuff, like in the PS2 days, back in the days metal gear, grand theft and many more were always thought of as Playstation games, this sentiment has gone mostly, losing battlefield dlc early release was a blow for me, M$ had cod, SONY had battlefield, but now M$ has the online shooter genre all sown up, shame, regardless i hope Sony realises that most core gamers would prefer slightly less shiny graphics for a rock solid smooth 60fps frame rate, i know i would, its one of the reasons why i started pc gaming!

They should be targeting 60fps, for all games, shiny graphics is not everything! but for next gen, i wanted 60fps more then anything, PS3 games are mostly 30fps and still look awesome, so when i buy a new PS4, which is next gen, i expect it to run games at 60fps as a standard, not 30fps and more shiny, the graphics are fine already in the current gen, its the frame rate which lets this gen down, so a new console should be running all games at 60fps, even if it means native 720p at 60fps, i would gladly take this over native 1080p at 30fps!!!

I know these are launch games, but still if some xbox games at launch will run at 60fps, then so should PS4 games! the biggest disappointment was drive club, why on earth is it not 60fps? this is what Sony want to put out at launch? the racer which is to entice gamers into buying PS4 instead of xbox1?
seriously? forza will make drive club look silly, at native 1080p and 60fps, drive club will not compare, face facts people!

For me, this will be the first gen where i don't buy all platforms at their launch, i will have to do with my wii u,gaming pc and PS4, and later may get a xbox1 if red ring don't repeat, and M$ sort their spying crap out!!

[YNWA96]

Just another day @n4g..... Your shit, no you are shit.....

[Furi17]

You're

[fattyuk]

If PS4 is shit tht must mean the xbox one is a old white crusty dog shit... on a stick.

[YNWA96]

Fattyuk, never tried that... Whats it like?

[3-4-5]

Sunset overdrive looks really interesting. As does spark, but PS4 still seems more appealing.

[Picnic]

Sunset Overdrive reminds me partly of Jet Set Radio Future in its environmental style which Microsoft also secured as an exclusive with the original Xbox. I do believe that the Xbox One needed it more for its line up than the PS4 did (PS4 has Knack and Infamous to cover both cute and city based games) but, still, even if it doesn't sell massively well on XboxOne I still think that it's a lovely-looking game to have and it may make a significant minority , like Rare's defection might have, or Sega fans with the original Xbox, buy an Xbox. Incrementally attracting a portion of users of other consoles.
Microsoft have always been quietly very canny at attracting 'the kids' by which I mean those youthful in spirit as well.

[DigitalRaptor]

Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Sunset Overdrive.

Honestly, take this as a fanboy comment if you like, but I'd bet that 2/3 of those will see a PS4 version in the first 18 months after launch. Microsoft track record speaks for itself.

[strifeblade]

yoshida just confirmed gakai can do cloud computation just like xbox one- WHAT A great genuine fact! and he works for sony- ANOTHER GREAT GENUINE FACT!

HOW ABOUT THE GAMEING MEDIA? I have heard nothing but praise for x1 exclusives from alll over- sorry to burst your bubble but x1 exclusives eclipsed sony's this e3.
WHAT A GREAT GENUINE FACT

[strifeblade]

Sorry but the games were running to x1 specs, lococycle was running on pc cuz they diddnt have time to port- the other reason games ran on pc was to make sure they dont crash. But the graphic fidelity will be very close to what was shown if not better by the time x1 releases.

[hakesterman]

Sad part is, all the games you saw at E3 weren't Running on XB1, they were running on $ 1800.00 gaming PC's. I'm not even sure if PS4 stuff was actually running from a PS4, they might of been using PC's as well cause that is what the Dev kits are made up of.

[twinspectre]

what a retarted XD im talking about the Xbone Developer

[Starbucks_Fan]

retarted?

oh the irony

[Statix]

Even an Xbox One developer admits the PS4 is more powerful.

Argument = ended.

[tuglu_pati]

well it is more powerful everyone know that, its by how much and how it will reflect on games.

I will buy both, while i prefer Xbox, IMO Sony will have more impressive games down the road maybe two years from now ( Naughty Dog comes in mind).

[s8anicslayer]

Indeed but in reference to the story a Lamborghini Aventador might have better specs on paper than a Farrari 450 Italia but both cars are fast and desirable to all car enthusiasts which one is the Aventador doesn't matter to the people who like the Italia! These articles are pointless and ridiculous and it's what keeps the flame of the fanboys burning

[nnodley]

Also it's not like he said ps4 games looked worse he just is talking about what he personally has played. So if he has not played any ps4 games then he shouldn't be saying anything until he's played some from both.

[Condemnedman]

Yes but it's fine for you lot to take Sony' s dev's talk as gospel. I bet there won't be much difference between these two consoles.

[nosferatuzodd]

indeed and all xbone games was running on windows 7 and Nvidia graphics that's 2 has powerful has the xbox card ppl seemed to have a short memory when it comes to Microsoft lol

[Qrphe]

He didn't lie. He stated a fact and an opinion.

Fact: PS4 has better specs than Xbox One
Opinion: Xbox One Games are as impressive as high end PC games

[hakesterman]

You Mean Fiction, Not Fact.

[ceed911]

a playstation fanboy has nothing but negative things to say about anything non-Sony related.

What a terrible and true fact that has made this site into a basement-filled all male orgy.

[Gekko36]

@Dee_Cazo I just spat my tea all over the place reading that comment.

Very true, there are some serious homoerotic comments flying around this site. Before you know it this site will turn into craig's list with postings offering parties involving a leather sling and lube.

This is the only site where some posters exhibit psycho-sexual feelings towards consoles.

I'm getting an XBOX One and I'm going to love it. End of!

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

Plenty of Xbots on here spouting garbage too.
Sick of these fanboy wars. Every article is just people trying to get one over each other and score points for their console of choice.
The console's aren't even out yet! lol

[ape007]

I can't wait to see when cloud make games like watchdogs better on xbox one, i don't care i just want see the reaction in here

fun times ahead

[medman]

The funny thing is the xbox demos WERE runny off high end pc's at E3.

[DonFreezer]

Shut yopur freaking mouth. "Xbox One games looked as good as ones on a high end PC" what do you have to say about that statement ps fanboys? Yeah I know in the 2006 era maybe you got 1 or 2 disagrees and everyone was pro xbox huh?

[wishingW3L]

I stopped reading at: "An Xbox One developer has revealed....". Like if he were going to say that the PS4's more powerful even though it's $100 cheaper. lol

[Smurf1]

Sometime it's nice to know what the opposite camp thinks. I guess he does acknowledge that PS4 specs are more powerful.

[from the beach]

It's just nice to see someone actually say what everybody is thinking - how come PS4 is much more powerful than Xbox One, but the games don't look even remotely better?

[DonFreezer]

It's nice.It's when the opposite camp is much more powerful that you hide them like with first Xbox who absolutely destroyed the ps2 in power.

[avengers1978]

So he admits that the PS4 is more powerful, lol, but the Xbox dev was more impressed with Xbox games wow. I wonder if Cerny is more impressed by playstation /s.
What was he going to say... I wish I were working on ps4 titles GTFO

[PurpHerbison]

If Killzone is really only 30FPS then I am more impressed by X1 games too.

[zebramocha]

@nukie while neither console has a 100% fiinish game,to only go by that df as some how the ps4 isn't capable os stupid.

[JohnJoakly]

@Purp.

we don't know what framerate KZ will run at,.. Bf4, will run @ 60fps......

[tuglu_pati]

@JohnJoakly

I think I read somewhere K:SF will run at 30FPS, I will try to find the link.
Also BF4 will run at 60fps but at what resolution? that is the question.

[nukeitall]

No, he admits PS4 is more powerful in "theory", which reminds me of how the PS3 was supposedly more powerful than the Xbox 360.

We all know how that story went getting that "power"!

"When it comes to the state of software development on PS4, the situation as it stands is surprising. On the one hand, freely playable first-party titles such as Knack and DriveClub suffer from noticeable frame-rate stutters down from 30fps, while on the other, "hands off" demos for the new Infamous and Assassin's Creed games appear to run without a perceptible hitch. This is in stark contrast to the playable software confirmed to be running direct from Xbox One hardware, such as Forza Motorsport 5 and Killer Instinct, which benefit to no end for targeting the 1080p60 gold standard, and largely succeed in doing so."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Ace_Pheonix]

We sure do... It has proven it is time and time again. Looks like history will repeat itself again.

[greenlantern2814]

The ps4 is supposedly easier to develop for, then the ps3.
So this time around it will be easier for devs to use that power.
Look at what devs like ND where able to do with ps3 and that was hard to develop for.

[BlaqMagiq24]

"No, he admits PS4 is more powerful in "theory", which reminds me of how the PS3 was supposedly more powerful than the Xbox 360."

I think you mean IS more powerful than the Xbox 360. Get it right.

[HammadTheBeast]

Well the Last of Us destroys anything on Xbox 360 in graphical terms, and one Euro gamer article isn't the end of the world.

[MysticStrummer]

"No, he admits PS4 is more powerful in "theory", which reminds me of how the PS3 was supposedly more powerful than the Xbox 360.

We all know how that story went getting that "power"!"

Yeah and we all know PS3 was in fact more powerful, just more complex to develop for.

PS4 is more powerful and easier to develop for, since One's memory structure is less straight forward.

I have no doubt the early games for both will be graphically on par in most ways. We'll see how it goes from there.

[sic_chops]

Yes, it does destroy anything on the 360. And I have owned both consoles unlike nuke who apparently just owns a 360 and is blindly making uninformative opinions based off of his fanboyism. He will always have the "inferior system." Too bad.

[isa_scout]

I don't get why everyone is breathing so much into 30fps and 60fps. It doesn't really matter. Ucharted,The Last of Us, and God of War all run at 30fps while Call of Duty runs at 60fps. Who in their right mind would dare say that COD looks even remotely on the same level as those games? As always it will come down to the talent of the developers creating the games. Sony has a huge stable of talented top-notch developers, and I'll just say this; whatever Naughty Dog is developing on the PS4 will blow our collective minds.

[Angeljuice]

I know what you're saying about frame rates. I am a filmmaker and have to edit in multiple formats (digital for tv, filmstock etc). Film runs at 24 fps, Video varies between 24 fps (mimicking film) to 30 fps. The reason they don't go higher is because at 24-30 fps the brain recognises fluid movement completely. Any higher and there is no perceptible difference ( many tests have been trialled).

Computer games are slightly different because they are trying to trick your mind into seeing fluid motion. Motion blur, for exampleis picked up by a camera when you capture the movement of the subject, but has to be added to a game.

60fps is used to hide some of the missing artifacts that tell the brain that what it is viewing is real movement. If the artifacts were all rendered perfectly in the image, there would be no need to run at a higher framerate than 30fps, as it would make no difference to the eye.

The other reason for 60fps in a game is for faster response times, but if you can eliminate control lag, there are very few games that will require higher than 30fps.

In general, a well programmed game designed to max-out a system at 30fps will look better than a well programmed game designed to max-out the same system at 60fps. And if the mise-en-scene were perfectly implemented, you couldn't tell what framerate it was running at.

[Tontus]

@isa_scout God of War III & God of War: Ascension run on average around 45-50fps, they run at a variable framerate from 30-60fps.

I agree with what you're saying though, people need to understand that the framerate a game runs at is the choice of the developer and not because of the console. Everything on the PS3/360 could run at 60fps if the devs chose to degrade the graphics quality but most chose to go with more impressive visuals at 30fps which is perfectly fine. In fact most of the most acclaimed games this generation aren't 60fps so really, who cares?

Just imagine what Sony's best devs like Sony Santa Monica can do on the PS4? The games are going to look stunning, that's all that matters.

[BuLLDoG909]

But by saying "PS4 has better specs on paper", he pretty much has just confirmed its more powerful.

[Walker]

Did you see inFANOUS: Second Son ? this game looked way better than any other game in E3 and that was an open-world sandbox game!
please wait and see how Naughty God and Sony Santa Monica can do with PS4 ! their next gen projects will crush every next gen game (and even high-end PCs titles) in terms of graphical standpoint !

[6DEAD6END6]

It did look like the best looking game at E3 only The Division came in second. But hey they say specs don't matter but we all know that isn't true without great specs you won't get great visuals like InFamous: Second Son or The Division.

[SnotyTheRocket]

I'm exited for these games, but the Witcher 3 looked the best. Or The Division.

[Kietz]

"wait and see how Naughty God and Sony Santa Monica can do with PS4 ! their next gen projects will crush every next gen game (and even high-end PCs titles) in terms of graphical standpoint !"
Say that is true (which I doubt).
That means you are going to place the power of your machine on the handful of titles these companies put out over the next few years while, just like this generation, you will be dealing with sub-standard third-party releases probably two years out of the gate.
Hey, your first-party games will probably look pretty nice though. That's something.

@ANIALATOR
Third-parties will look pretty comparable for the first year or so of the system's life.

@gaffyh
This was more about the PS4 to PC, less about the One. That thing is going to fair far worse, unless all this magic cloud stuff ends up being more than smoke.

[gaffyh]

Third party games will look better on PS4, simply because te architecture is not a puzzle anymore. It'll be almost opposite of this gen. So PS4 will have better looking multiplats and better exclusives again.

[XtraTrstrL]

We won't be dealing with sub-standard 3rd party releases this gen on PS4. Especially when you consider that the PS4 is the easier of the two consoles to develop on this time, and it having a more mature development environment than the Xbox One currently. Even if the Xbox One ends up being the base console to make ports from, without any optimizations the PS4 version will still match or outperform it in fps, AA and possibly visuals based on the speed of the ram and increased raw power of the GPU.

[gaffyh]

@Kietz - Ah right, I didn't get that, but still, as I always say, it is stupid to compare consoles and PCs. Consoles are for the most apart static hardware, and significantly cheaper than equivalent PCs. They also allow you to buy one product, and be sure that you are likely to be able to play hundreds of multiplatform games for the next 7-10 years on the same hardware and OS. You can't say the same about PC.

[Salooh]

MGS5
Final fantasy 15
Battlefield 4
The witcher 3

Looked really great too . I for one can't decide which one looks better. Each have it's own atmosphere and vision so i will enjoy all of them ..

[ALLWRONG]

Right now for the moment the exclusive games on X1 look better than those on the PS4. Sony didn't show one game that looked as good as Ryse. Not saying PS4 isn't capable of better looking games. Just saying as far as E3 is concerned, the X1 games outshine the PS4. You only need working eyes to see it. So expect to see a lot of "wait for Naughty Dog" to save the day.

[Walker]

Are you serious ?

Look at these Ryse direct-feed screenshots:
http://images.gamersyde.com...
http://images.gamersyde.com...
http://images.gamersyde.com...

[Myze]

Killzone and Infamous (and Drive Club, but hard to compare a racer to non-racers) both look significantly better than Ryse, and have actual gameplay.

[ALLWRONG]

Whatever you guys need to say to make yourself feel better. Even though the X1 failed E3, the games looked better and the world outside of N4G agrees. You can talk about the "potential" and specs all you want. That means nothing until the PS4 shows games that look better. In the meantime take a backseat and wait.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

You do know the xb1 games were running on PC and not the actually xb1 console at E3. Ryse could look worse on xb1 just saying. You won't know til it release.

All PS4 games were running on PS4. Just saying.

Ryse look good though but even God of War 3 looks better and it's a 3yr old game. Just my opinion.

[neoMAXMLC]

Do you mean the world inside your head?

Ryse looked nice but had a pretty choppy frame rate. I bet you thought the Crysis games were the best looking games on current gen console as well.

[tuglu_pati]

@Walker

Now show me those PS4 game direct-feed.

@NoWayOut

"Ryse look good though but even God of War 3 looks better and it's a 3yr old game. Just my opinion."

WOW really...

[ZeV]

Ryse ? Let me laugh...

Deep Down is the only one that proves PS4 is far better than X1 ! Deep Down graphics are the most axesome ! Look at the physics,look at the advanced shadrs,DOF and MoBlur...The particles FX using fluid technologie for realistics smoke and fire effects...

Ryse looks like an old gen game if you compare to deep down's tech !

Deep Down is exclusive to PS4,and it's the most advanced game i've ever seen in terms of graphical leap.

[webeblazing]

ill wait for the pc version of watch dogs or gta V or many of the other open world games thats coming out for the pc before saying a statement like that

[Ippiki Okami]

"ill wait for the pc version of watch dogs or gta V or many of the other open world games thats coming out for the pc before saying a statement like that"

....uh all you'll be getting in the PC version of those games is better textures, on screen details and framerate. The actual game world won't magically grow bigger than the console version. The design of the game is universal across all platforms.

[webeblazing]

you do i said and others right and your right the pc ver with frame rate res aa and mod that increase gfx remember he brought up gfx or are you trying to be blind and gta always made the pc ver better. plus the people that made stalker is making a new game o and lets not forget the witcher

[ThyPizzaGod]

@Rocket
I cant say that i agree or disagree, the division really does turn me on and the witcher is pretty sexy, juat too much goodness to favor

[SonyPS4]

"their next gen projects will crush every next gen game (and even high-end PCs titles) in terms of graphical standpoint !"

You wish. I am not even a PC gamer but that is a lie.

[PFFT]

LMFAO!! Sure it did......

[Majin-vegeta]

We still dont know Sony full launch line up.

[Dogteeth]

Waaaa waaaaa waaaaa.

Guess who I am...

YOU.

If it was cerny you would be drooling all over it.

[Majin-vegeta]

You sound a little mad there man.Want a cookie?

[PunisherRevenge]

@Majin-vegeta......We still don't know Microsoft full launch line up ether.

[dangert12]

Better specs on paper? it has better specs fullstop lol

[6DEAD6END6]

That's what they don't want to admit to because they know at a $100 cheaper it blows the competition away. Better specs more first party exclusives and $100 cheaper is killer.

[thexmanone]

So Did MS release the Specs of the xbox one? I didn`t now they did. Can you give me a link, I can't seem to find it.

[swerve121]

But remember the PS3 is more powerful also. But we dont see that do we? I gaunrantee when they both launch all this better looking and 50% more powerful stuff is going out the window.

[gamertk421]

Full stop? What are you, a ship captain?

[Angeljuice]

Full Stop is the correct (English) version of what Americans call 'Period'. In England period is almost exclusively reserved for reference to the menstrual cycle.

Hence the laughter at the restaurant when I said I'd eaten too much rice and my American friend said really loudly "I've eaten too much period".

[EXVirtual]

Because you were using high end PCs at E3. Lol. The PS4 will seriously trounce the Xbone in terms of power in the next 2-3 years. That's when the differences will be shown. That's when games will be using more an more RAM. Infamous Second Son looked amazing. The Division though... the graphics and physics are both so good (they have a more realistic approach).

EDIT: @6DEAD6EBD6, don't forget more 3rd party exclusives later on.

[PunisherRevenge]

@EXVirtual.... For one Sony was running games on PC also as E3. Also ram has nothing to do with the grafix of a game. As of right now the best looking game on console or PC dose'nt even use that much ram. The ram that is available for both console is a bit of an overkill, because in the next two to three years the games would be better optimized so they would not need as much ram as they do now.

[EXVirtual]

Sony was using devkits, PCs with the exact same specs as the PS4. And for now the whole, GDDR5 RAM thing won't be used but later on it will be.

[PigPen]

Deja Vu, just like this current generation. PS3 had better specs on paper but the Xbox 360 multi platform games where just better.

[6DEAD6END6]

That's because the 460 was easier to develop for but now they are both easy to make games on, it's just that the PS4 has better specs over all.

[shivvy24]

Whats a 460 ?

[PigPen]

You're trying to justify the reason for the Xbox 360 better games then the Playstation 3. Every console has its pros and cons. Just cause the Playstation 4 specs are good on paper doesn't necessarily mean it will be the best console for graphics. Microsoft doesn't seem worried at all.

[zebramocha]

@pigpen That's stupid because Sony has enough talented devs who'll extract the most out of the ps4 and if a dev want to use the gpu as way to augment the CPU,the ps4 had a third more compute units over the xbone.

[gtarhro7]

@PigPen And you're just trying to assume that because developers struggled with the PS3 that it will be the same with the PS4 this generation.
PS4 and X1 architecture are not very different. If anything I will see the X1 hold back the multi-platform games since it's specs are a little less powerful than the PS4's, but both will look very similar. PS4 will show their true power in their exclusives, just like the PS3.

[solidjun5]

I see PigPeg, aka TippyTaco, is at it again with his erroneous and trolling information.

[nosferatuzodd]

pay no attendance to those drones they rather sulk in their ignorance it gives them comfort rather than face reality the ps4 is easier to develops for so now its going to be different the ps3 was more powerful but hard to develop for don't believe OK look at lost of us and now Microsoft is changing there system secretively to match ps4..

They didn't used x1 components at e3 all there games was running on windows 7 and Nvidia graphics card that doesn't look like there very confident in their device now they're over clocking a system that has heat issues yes history will repeat it self i see a massive red ring of death coming up for the x1 just like how they try to ramp up memory in there 360 to match the ps3

[iamnsuperman]

little bit more complicated than that. Being the weaker (in terms of specs) platform and easier to develop for it was just a natural thing for people to develop on the 360 and port them to the PS3. The problem with porting is ( if it isn't done correctly) can lead to technical issues. You really saw the class of the developer with the PS3 version of the game because the good developers didn't do a crappy port (similar to what has plagued PC gamers for years)

This time, we have been told the PS4 is easy to develop for. Now we still might have games being developed on the one and ported to the PS4 because the One is the weaker (again in terms of specs) so it is still naturally to start with the weaker platform and port over to the PS4 and PC

[fsfsxii]

The last of Us. The end.

[ion666]

fuck multi plat games. sony has better I.P.'s period. this is the last year of both systems and sony is still churning out the hits. 360 goes silently into retirement.what kind of shit is that. is there any new I.P. coming to 360 except multi plats? i wanna know.

[tuglu_pati]

"fuck multi plat games. sony has better I.P.'s period. IMO"

there, fixed.

[ion666]

guess i gotta F on english papers. I didnt know you were text sensitive.let me help you through your life dilemma with a phrase.Its not that serious .

[LogicStomper]

It's hilarious how you dismiss multi - platform games. It just shows you're not here for games, you just want to scream out how you idolize and worship one console.

[ion666]

its called preference, but your right i'd rather be playing them then checking ppl's spelling on the interwebs,thanx road scholar. you guys need a chill pill. PS4 lyphe

[swerve121]

And one of these fanboys wanna admit that.

[Chug]

"Xbox One games looked as good as ones on a high end PC"

Maybe that's because they were being ran on a pc...

[Merrill]

Lol.

[christocolus]

I'm tired of this statement, do you know that sony ran games on pcs too? Do your research and get your facts riight. N4G. Published serveral articles on that too. Damn.
n4g.com/news/1286435/report-p lenty-of-ps4-games-also-running -on-the-pc-during-e3-2013

[Chug]

Well jeez, I guess you really told me. Actually, not really. What part of what I said wasn't a fact?

I was just poking fun at a ridiculous statement, that is all.

In reality, neither Xbox One nor PS4 are anywhere near a high end PC.

[christocolus]

I definitly agree with you there. pc games will most likly always have the spec advantage and all....but I kp seeing fan boys declaring a winner btw two consoles that haven't even launchd,and basing comparisons using hardware specs alone is so wrong. Hardware alone dsnt make good games. Software , hardware and middleware without talented devs taking time to fully utilise them is equal to nothing....

[lgn15]

Your 37 likes proves that fanboys are horribly uneducated on the issue.

[Xboxonefan27]

Thats not true at all. http://www.forzacentral.com...

[Chug]

Thanks for the links to forzacentral Xboxonefan27.

[Xboxonefan27]

This is the truth http://www.forzacentral.com...

[True_Samurai]

Real Developer>N4G Developers

[Salooh]

This only confirm that the ps4 is more powerful . Xbox always had a bad history with games so why would i believe one developer now when i had bad experience with MS console and sold it because of lack of exclusives. So far we didn't see one kinect game xD , so get ready to see the huge number of kinect games later in the conferences and after it released. Then we will see who talk ..

[Belking]

lol...you are butt hurt over this bad news for N4G.

[MysticStrummer]

Another episode of Belking's Alternate Reality.

If the quote in the summary was said about PS4 by a PS4 dev, Belking would be quick to point that out and dismiss it.

"It's a PS4 dev. What else would they say? ...lol"

[rela82me]

Funny, it truly must be a brand loyalty thing. This gen I bought both consoles. I played my multiplats on the 360 (naturally) and never picked up the ps3 except for infamous and mgs, and uc. I didn't care for uc but I did like the infamous series. Unfortunately I sold my ps3 before I could play tlou but I needed the money for next gen.

My 360 was the most used console this gen, despite the superior hardware of the ps3. Sony knows how to develop hardware but just plain novice when it comes to software and networking compared to ms.

[Metfanant]

Interesting that Sony would be called "novice" when it comes to software when it is Sony's first party SOFTWARE that is universally looked at as the best of the generation from a technical standpoint (Uncharted, TLoU, Killzone)

[GraveLord]

Xbox One were being run on high-end PCs with GeForce Titans.

PS4 specs aren't just better on paper, expect real world advantage as well. This isn't another case of PS3 vs 360, these next-gen consoles are so similar that taking advantage of the PS4s extra power will be easy. This isn't another Cell-type situation. Far Far from it.

[Akuma2K]

Exactly.....it'll be up to the talent of the developers to make the best games.

[Hercules189]

Another blind fanboy, have you seen the videos and photos of actual x1s playing ryse and killer instinct. Oh but, 1 photo showed a pc for an average looking arcade game.

[GraveLord]

Calm down man. It's just vidya gaemz.

[mursumaki]

"Xbox One were being run on high-end PCs with GeForce Titans"

PS4 games were running on high-end PCs too.
http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

[Williamson]

Nothing from x1 looked as good as last of us...sorry to say.

[Hercules189]

People actually agree with this, smh. Dr3 looks better and has 1000s of characters on screen and is open world, Ryse looks way better, Bf4 looks better, Spark looks better, and you definately haven't seen quantum break.

Ryse "might" have terrible gameplay, but were not talking about gameplay, were talking graphics.

[CanadianTurtle]

Ryse was probably one of the worst demonstrations of "next gen gaming" that I've seen in my life.

There's more to a game than just pretty graphics

[Williamson]

I was refering to both gameplay/graphics or the overall package...the game. I should of been more clear.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

Do you expect anything other than that from "them"?

[EXVirtual]

Ryse? Ryse looked so linear. And the quick time events are they main part of the gameplay.

[christocolus]

Lol.the last of Us better than all ms showed at e3???.is that suposed to be a joke? I loved d last of us couldn't stop playin it and all respect to naugthy dog but ur comment is jst one terible joke. The immersion and story telln in TLOU is so great but compare it with d games ms showed at e3 graphic wise is wrong. Even if u want to go using immmersion and story telln it would still be wrong cos besides the short presentations and gameplay clips ms showed at e3 you dnt know jack about any of doz games, u dnt knw their stories eithr, so kp ur comparisons til they are launchd. pls no one needs to reply to such comments as these...smh.

[lgn15]

Last of us doesn't even look that good, so yah.

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

Look at the shitty textures. Have you seen quantum break?

[Xboxonefan27]

Maybe you didn't look closely

[Urusernamesucks]

Overated , dr has open world
Is nonlinear
Has more ai.s running
Drivable veihchles

Tlou is not that great, ive seen plenty of games get 10/10 average scores.

Sorry to ruin your fantasy

[ape007]

LuLz, do u realize how emo-ish that comment is, my ps3 cringe when it sees comments like that

[CanadianTurtle]

Now listen, Microsoft announced many titles, but only showed gameplay of a few games. Just saying.

[Akuma2K]

Makes you wonder how many games Microsoft have for the Xbox1, let alone games made from actual Xbox1 development kits etc...

[RM-TatoTiburon]

didn't sony announced like hundreds of games at E3 por the PS4? how may gameplay footage did they showed?..just saying

[Williamson]

My reply before was not intended for you I apologize if I sounded rude, I do agree 100% with that comment though.

[Urusernamesucks]

They showed more gp than sony at e3.

[Williamson]

Still doesn't change the fact Microsoft basically disappeared with first party support for the 360 last couple of years while sonys still pumping out exclusives for ps3. Not many people will doubt Sony on the ps4 when it comes to games with the track record they've built with the ps3.

[kingslayer1000]

Nothing microgarbage showed was impressive

[gamertk421]

My condolences on your obvious blindness.

[tracyllrkn]

I'm a PS gamer, and Project Spark, Ryse, Quantam Break, and Forza 5 all looked pretty impressive to me. Both console's exclusives were very good.

[fsfsxii]

Project spark is LBP creative mode but easier.
Ryse looks good but lacks the gameplay
Quantem break i dunno what to say with the 3 seconds on gameplay.
Forza looked great

[Snookies12]

I would agree that Spark and Forza looked really good. Quantum Break didn't really show anything, so I can't say one way or another there. Ryse however looked just awful in terms of gameplay. It was pretty with no substance behind it.

Killer Instinct is winning me over a bit after seeing more gameplay. I'll have to wait and see on that one. I'm excited to see what other exclusives both Sony and Microsoft have up their sleeves though.

[ape007]

still bitter about the fact that MS's xbox 360 ended sony's complete market dominance (ps1 and ps2)

cry baby cry

[JBSleek]

Well then.

I am more impressed with the Xbox offerings as of now as opposed to the competition. If we are strictly talking games the One has the advantage but we have to wait till Gamescon and TGS to see the full picture.

[Akuma2K]

First it was E3 now its Gamescon, what will it be next the TGS ?

If your still waiting for MS to show games for the Xbox1 you might as well keep on waiting, as far as talking strictly games goes everybody knows that the PS4 trumps the Xbox1 in the dept by a longshot not mention the countless developers that's on board to make games for the PS4.

There is no "full picture", you don't get a 2nd chance to make a 1st impression now that E3 has come and gone...but you can't tell microsoft that.

[n4rc]

What kind of logic is that?

General opinion is x1 had a better line up at e3.. And they won best in show for titanfall..

So I guess Sony is screwed then by your logic?

He said we'll have to wait until all trade shows are over to see the full scope of games for both..

As of e3.. X1 is leading in the games department..

[JBSleek]

Relax it's my opinion.

I personally feel the One has better exclusives. You feel the PS4 does. That's okay. Nothing that you say can change my personal preference.

[N4realGMRZ]

And your first impression is that games that ran at 30 FPS looked better than games that ran at 60 FPS? ok you win!

[TKCMuzzer]

@N4realGMRZ
I don't get what your trying to say. Are you saying that just because a game runs at 60fps it will look better than a game that runs at 30fps? Because if you are that is not true.

Point in fact, COD runs at 60fps but is no way the best looking FPS of this generation.

There is also the main issue of how many of those XB1 titles and PS4 games will be ready for launch day.

[sandman224]

I'm definitely digging killer instinct, Titanfall, and dead rising 3. Then again I'm a killzone fan. So it looks like ill end up getting both consoles.

[jmac53]

Haha! The reason the Xbox one games at E3 looked like high end PC games is because they were running on high end PC's.

[JBSleek]

What is up with that? Wasn't that debunked to be false.

[PunisherRevenge]

IDK...Is it me or is all the Sony fans copying and pasting the same comments?

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Like i said before specs on paper dont mean a damn thing it comes down to engineering. The xbox one will have the better GPU custom GCN 2:0 based off Radeon Next gen G-Cards and the xbox one can do multi threading better than PS4. Heres an article from Neogaf from a tech engineer.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpos...

[wishingW3L]

and we have this guy saying otherwise:

"I’m sure as the cycle evolves, developers will look at ways to squeeze more out of the PS4"
http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-...

And this comes from a legit game developer and not some random self-proclaimed engineer on a forum.

[TKCMuzzer]

@FrigidDARKNESS
To be fair you don't half fly the flag for Microsoft.....
It's games developers you should be listening to..

[XabiDaChosenOne]

So, a anonymous poster from an anonymous site Is now a tech engineer? Okay...

[thechosenone]

>An Xbox One developer has revealed

that's he's biased.

[N4realGMRZ]

Why are PS4 Games 30 FPS? what and upgrade!

[FrigidDARKNESS]

That is one of the biggest discussion on Tech forums i frquently visit.

[N4realGMRZ]

Whats the gist of it? i find it strange!

[kingdip90]

Basically this reads as ps4 more powerful on paper but xbox games still pretty. Nowhere does it say just as pretty as the ps4 or prettier! People read things however they want to I guess

[firelogic]

They look like they're running on a high-end PC because that's exactly what they were running on. They're not even running on vidcards that are in retail units of the XB1. They're running on Nvidia cards.

It's been proven by numerous sources that all XB1 demos at E3 were running on high end PCs while PS4 demos were all running on actual PS4 devkits.

[SaveFerris]

I don't know much about how this stuff works, but if the PS4 and Xbox One are now similar to a PC, shouldn't that make it easier for developers to get most games to be 1080p and 60fps if it makes for a better experience?

[imt558]

Author of this article doesn't know that Sony has a huge amount of 1st party devs.

[gamer7804]

So much effort put into these graphics convos before systems are even out. Games are going to look pretty similar on both, just enjoy the games.

[Yo Mama]

Yeah right. Hmm, an Xbox dev saying the Xbox games looked better? Wow, that's surprising. Xbox didn't have the best games last gen. What makes him think that's going to magically change now? What, did all Sony's first and second party developers stop making games for them and didn't tell anyone? Haha, get real dude.

[cellfluid]

http://hothardware.com/m/Ne...

For the nonbelievers

[shibster88]

For me ps4 has just as good games maybe better ones coming ad os4 getting more exclusives than xbone so who knows wait and see I guess but right now ps4 winning my heart

[Prcko]

lol,ps4 then
bye...

[_FantasmA_]

This will be like PS3 vs 360. Casuals and xbots will say that there is no difference. But smart people and people with 20/20 vision or better know that first party PS3 games like Killzone 2=3, and Uncharted 2+3, The Last of Us, etc blow xbox out of the toilet.

[Izzy408]

lol, fanboyism at it's finest.

[_FantasmA_]

Yes you are. You obviously haven't played those games. I haven't played Halo 4 so I can't judge, but no other 360 game even comes close to those games. No Gears 3 is not even close.

[Izzy408]

You're the one posting your biased opinion about a console, all I did was point it out. And you respond by calling me a fanboy? THE IRONY IS TOO DAMN HIGH. Anyway, in the end, your post is nothing more than a personal opinion. Some will agree with you, others wont. If your statement was pure fact, then there shouldn't be any disagreements.

[ape007]

you're blind sir, crysis 2, halo 4,gears of war3 and rage xbox 360 looked better than ps3 games

[_FantasmA_]

LOL. Uncharted 3, Killzone 3 and The Last of Us say otherwise. Those games may have had the better versions when compared to the PS3 versions because they were made for xbox first then ported over but to say they look better than first party PS3 games? You smoke too much meth.

[ZBlacktt]

These stories are only made to get a rise out people. Everyone is well aware of which console is sold out everywhere and for good reason. Sony has and will always out sell MS. Sony wins exclusive Game of the year awards, MS has not.

[Krosis]

Microsoft has won game of the year awards. MS outsells playstation in North America ( gamings largest continent) every generation. They are neck in neck in sales last gen. Try to sound less bias, does you credit. Console kids are nausiating.

[wishingW3L]

PS3 has more GOTY exclusives and it outsold the X360 even with the year head-start. America means crap compared to WW sales.

Cerny never even mentions the XB1 on any of his interviews while this MS guy is just spinning to put down the PS4 saying that specs doesn't matter because XB1 games look better.

And then you talk about bias.... 0_O

[Akuma2K]

MS outsold every playstation ?

Since when did Xbox360 out sell the PS2...

[ZBlacktt]

Sigh... let me guess you are going to say Gears of War in 2006. Which that is not true. A few publications picked Gears. Yet by a way more majority vote Zelda Twilight Princess won GOTY in 2006. In 2007, Super Mario Galaxy won most of the votes. Go look it up and see for yourself.

Btw, I highly highly doubt you are older then I or been around this hobby longer then I. You seem to be selective in your reply. But you know who's sold the most. Even without a worldwide launch and having a full year later launch date.

Also, I own every console. So not really needing to post for one or the other. I just know the facts.

[Krosis]

Take a look at the Halo franchise. Btw a lol at the fact that quip about age got your knickers in a knot.

[Krosis]

"America means crap compared to WW sales"? Lol conversation over.

[Krosis]

The PS3 that is.. The point is Xbox is a worthy opponent and the sales reflect that. They established the brand.

[Thehyph]

I would try to avoid bringing console sales numbers into the mix. Go look at a few sources for these statistics. The Ps2 sold more units in both worldwide and north American markets than original Xbox and Xbox 360 combined.
Sony's sold more consoles without even including the ps3.

[Krosis]

If this came from "Mark Cerny" n4g would all be circle-jerking to this article lol "PS4 ftw---Xbox One stupid", we get it. Frankly I have yet to see ONE exclusive that makes me want a console. All the best games to me are multiplat as usual (like last generation). This site has become a PlayStation shrine, even the "all" tab is saturated with repetitive pro-sony articles with idiotic quotes from n4g's Lord & Savior Mark Cerny. My favorite so far is "Ps4 is more customizable than a PC" (paraphrase). What a moron. Anyways the fact these fanboys eat up that statement from a Sony developer and resent this one from an Xbox developer proves my thesis: NPS4G.com. Please bring back diverse articles.

[Foxgod]

The XB1 is completely underestimated, just because a system has lower specs, doesnt mean its a weaker system.
It really depends on the strength of the architecture.

An I7, which got 4 cpu cores, for example, with 6GB of DDR3, is still a lot stronger then next gen consoles, even tho it has lower specs.
While an ADM phenom, also 4 cores, with 6gb of ddr3 performs on par with next gen consoles., but much less then an i7.

[wishingW3L]

"just because a system has lower specs, doesnt mean its a weaker system"

You're really reaching man... That example you gave is not even relevant. Any i7 has way higher specs than an APU CPU, especially a CPU with Jaguar cores which is a CPU for tablets and netbooks. XD

That hardcore blind fanboyism of yours is making you say lots of very silly stuff.

[Foxgod]

8 cores and 8 gb in the consoles is a higher spec then the 4 cores and 6 gb in an i7.

higher specs is nothing more then higher numbers.
However, higher numbers does not equal more power these days, as a lot of performance is gained from tweaks in the architecture.
Like using more expensive material, or using a more expensive manufacturing technique, or by using a speedier bus, or better L cache.

[tuglu_pati]

you are wasting your time Fox. Don try to explain they wont listen.

[Metfanant]

No it's NOT! lol...just because the number is higher does not mean its better specs...

10gb of DDR RAM is not "higher specs" than 2gb of DDR 3...

A 5ghz Pentium 4 is not higher specs than a 2.5ghz i7...

An 8core Jaguar based APU (like PS4 and Xbone) are NOT higher spec than a quad core i7...

[solidworm]

Both consoles will have amazing looking games but a year down the line the ps4 exclusives will be making the BONE games look shoddy in comparison.

[ape007]

hmmmmm, witcher 3 was the best looking game, better than all ps4 exclusives and it will come to xbox one. FACT

[solidworm]

you forgot to say "imho" bro....wake up.

[Yo Mama]

Just actually read the whole AMA. What a bunch of junk! This guy refuses to give any details on who he is or how he knows anything. He just expects us to trust his, very suspicious, pro-Xbox rhetoric.

As far as we know he is a Microsoft fanboy in disguise or he is an official "unofficial" mark for Microsoft to spread goodwill towards the Xbone and Microsoft's name. Just yesterday when Microsoft announced their new reorganization of the Xbox brand, they had a new department called "Business Development and Evangelism". "Evangelism" is the keyword here people. Why would MS need an evangelism team apart from the duties of their marketing team? If that doesn't make you question where all this supposed positive MS news is coming from, then you're probably better off living with your head stuck underground like an ostridge.

http://www.microsoft.com/en...

"The evangelism and business development team will drive partners across our integrated strategy and its execution."

[Soldierone]

It could possibly be due to the fact the games were all running on PC's..... lol

[ZBlacktt]

So this, must we not forget sly MS not even using X1's at E3 to show their games?

[windblowsagain]

I thought ryse and forza5 looked good, but they don't seem to have as complex lighting systems among other things.

And a fighting game is hardly much @60fps. It should be.

long time to go yet.

[MasterCornholio]

I agree with you that a fighting game at 60FPS is nothing to brag about because almost all of them run at that frame rate. I'm pretty sure that Marvel Vs Capcom, Yeomen, Street Fighter, Soul Caliber, Virtue Fighter, Dead or Alive etc will all run at 60FPS at 1080P on the PS4. People love to brag about Forza 5 running at 60FPS but given Polyfonic Digitals history with their GT games they will run at 60FPS on the PS4. The last game that everyone mentions with 60FPS is Titanfall which is sub 1080P on the Xbox One (Eurogamer) and it contains some low resolution textures.

Anyways Battlefield 4 is a multiplatform game that runs at 60FPS at 1080P on both consoles and it destroys Titanfalls where graphics are concerned.

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[Grimhammer00]

I was fairly wowed by KZ:SF and Drive Club....Bf4 too.

But just to remind people....PS4 has better specs, $100 cheaper, offers full retail games for free with PsPlus and only has MP behind a paywall....and even that's better than it sound - F2P mp is not behind the paywall, nor is asynchronous mp (ghosts in racing games for example).

So given all that....even if the PS4 was less powerful or capable....it still wins in my book!

And of course we know the PS4 has better specs and no spybox sensor.

In the past I would always say that peoples individual gaming tastes are their own. But you have to be pretty special to want a Xbon over a PS4.

If it`s Titanfall you want (I thought it looked great!)...just wait a year after the exclusivity has expired...and grab the Xboned Beta proofed version. lol

[mafiahajeri]

On paper? What? Is this a football match where one team is better on paper but the other one wins? Lol this guys high...

[imt558]

Did you know that Sony will show MORE THAN 20 exclusives at GDC 2013? And half of that is 12 new IP's!!!

[BIGBOSS08]

yh, sony are about to completely shut up whats left of the xbox fanbase. most of them will have no choice but to buy a PS4 because of how awesome its going to be.

[BIGBOSS08]

shadow fall may only be 30fps but no game on xbox one will match it. even in 5 years, xbone wont have a better looking game.

[Hercules189]

I know your being sarcastic, but ill tell all the fanboys that have this mentality. The ps4 might be only a teeny tiny bit more powerful, and shadowfall is only a launch title, of course the one will surpass it, infact if quantum break really is even close to looking as good as that cutscene, than it already has. And we still havent seen anything from Epic or Halo 5, which im sure will surpass it aswell.

[Ukdude]

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE MY OFFEND SAD FANBOYS

My opinion on current gen:

PS3-Free online/built in wifi
-Generally better crisper graphics (1080p)
-Blu Ray player

360-Nearly perfect controller (pity about the D pad)
-Games generally run smoother
-Xbox live service blows the PSN network away

So there you have it, whatever rocks your boat is the console for you, or if you want the expensive impractical nuisance of an up to date super charged PC then that's fine to.

I cant comment on next gen as its not here yet!!!

P.S-G.O.W graphics is better than the over hyped last of us (which I sold after 2 weeks)

THIS OPINION IS IN NO WAY ENDORSED BY SONY OR MICROSOFT,JUST A NON FANBOY

[ZBlacktt]

Then why is the PS4 selling out everywhere worldwide and the X1 not?

[Sarobi]

Well of course someone whose developing for Xbox One is going to say they have the more impressive games. Higher specs may mean nothing to anyone right now, but give it time and you'll see what a little more power can be used for.

After The Last of Us.. I don't think anyone really has to worry about whether or not Sony's studios can make "impressive" games.

[jairusmonillas]

Xbox 360 had a good start only to crap out midway with kinect games, I see the samething happening with Xbox One, start out good only to focus on kinect later on especially now that its mandatory not optional. LOL

[NeoTribe]

Yeah now that kinect is manditory there gonna be shoving even more casual, gimmicky garbage down peoples throats.

[kupomogli]

"According to DICE general manager and vice president Karl-Magnus Troedsson, who is currently heading up Battlefield 4, “more is always better.”

Troedsson answered, “More memory or more CPU or GPU power – whatever kind of power we get out of a machine – more is always better, especially for the kind of games that we build.” "

So yeah. All this "on paper" bs, is just people in full defense mode for the Xbox One. More power is more power. The PS4 is 50% more powerful in both graphics and RAM, so just wait a few years and you'll start to see some jaw dropping visuals that the Xbox One won't ever come close to.

[jay2]

An Xbox One developer has revealed during an AMA on Reddit that while he can’t comment on the rumours floating around, PS4 does have better specs on paper and by how much is still debatable. All you need to read, how stupid are people here? of cause an XB1 exclusive developer is going to say this, MS need this stuff and people to fall for it.

[Belking]

The haters are out today...lol XB1 games look awesome.

[Ukdude]

WARNING-THE FOLLOWING COMMENT ENTAILS SOME COMMON SENSE

Got to say looking from the outside in it seems as though the Xbox One is technically inferior to the PS4 on paper, however, Microsoft have not yet released the official full spec of the console and can always be subject to change,(as can Sony) also nobody really knows what impact the cloud will have.
Personally I couldn't give much of a sh@t which is more powerful, its all about games for me like always and i'll wait 12 months to judge which console to purchase.

Proof of the pudding will be when you get your hands on one and test it.

ENDORSED BY A NON FANBOY

[Jamaicangmr]

"They look as good as the games I play on a high end PC. Ryse reminded me of darksiders II.”

Interesting...

Link:
http://gengame.net/2013/06/...

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Food for thought.
Just saying.

[annus]

I hope it didn't remind him of Darksiders II graphics. My reaction when I first played that was that it looked like a 360 game on my PC at highest graphics.

[BABY-JEDI]

Bag of sh1t

[quenomamen]

These are 1st gen games, go back and play 1st gen games on 360 and PS3. They look dowright crappy. The real difference in power will not be apparant for at least another 1-2 years.

[ibroman]

This is entirely off topic but imagine if naughty dog and R* merge as a company. (Naughty Star lol) Thay could make a survival horror open world game. (Or last of us 2) With Naughty dog's last of us gameplay and story and R*'s open world and a few of their gaming mechanics that would be amazing, a gamers dream.

[Theendgame]

The Ps4 will deliver kick-ass graphics at 1080p 30-60fps nextgen,there is no doubt about that. IMO the Ps4 will be graphically superior to X1 based on what I've seen and heard. The only department I see PlayStation lacking in is computing. The X1 cloud is no joke. (The X1 is using Azure,so i'm basing my explanation on Azure)
Using Azure the X1 can tap into multiple virtual cpu's and extra ram. So while the Ps4 may have better graphics, the X1+cloud= better AI,Physics,Bigger worlds. (Please note that I am no fanboy and prefer neither the Ps4 or X1)

[NeoTribe]

The cloud is a joke dude. Americas internet infrastructure cant sustain that kind of processing. Let alone the rest of the world. Keep dreaming.

[Theendgame]

I respectfully disagree with your statement.Are you saying that you don't see the benefits of cloud computing? These new consoles have to last 5-10yrs!Think of the future. We can already do it now and not even need the best internet connections.

[Enigma_2099]

Newsflash... I still see impressive stuff on PS3 and 360.

Irrelevant comment is irrelevant.

[jairusmonillas]

Confirmed, PS4 multiplats will be superior from Xbox Dev.

PS4 games will be better in the long run. PS1, PS2 and PS3 all proved that.

[NeoTribe]

Sony will always have the better games. Fact. Just look to the past for the truth. Last of us saiz hi.

[Max-Zorin]

The stress in this comment section is insane.

[illustratedDEO]

Didn't we already go over this PS4/Xbox discussion PS4 dethroned the CrossBone in every way and Microsoft continues the scramble about , microsoft will have to pull a wiiU+ behind the scenes to get were SCE is at right now.

[Flames76]

Anyone with any common sense already knows this.So i dont see how this is news?This is fact that the Xbox One games are more impressive

[deadie]

More impressive than - wii u?

"Fact"? Get over yourself.

Specwise the xbox one is inferior to the ps4.

...and the decision to put win8 as OS is remarkably dumb. 3 gigs to waste i tell ya.

Good luck with your own made up "facts".

[Flames76]

Anyone with any common sense already knows this.So i dont see how this is news?Its a fact that the Xbox One games are more impressive

[deadie]

^^ SPOCK dont approve

[Urzusix]

When xbox one starts having games I want play I'll look into it, but right now the PS4 has the games and the studios that I want.This is a reversal of ps3 launch back then the 360 had all they games, but now there studios are looking old and tried with a lack of imagination, when compared to the first party Playstation games

[dredgewalker]

PS4 has very good hardware and also very talented devs. I have no doubts in the PS4 being a very good console knowing Sony still delivered TLOU on the PS3. Anyway the title of this article tries to significantly downplay the PS4's key strengths. I do think the Xbox One will still be competitive but they'll have a hard time going against Sony considering how bad MS messed up their pr.

[Matt666]

only because its on a internet doesn't make it true anyone could of written that

[Ukdude]

WARNING-THIS ARTICLE MAY OFFEND FACTLESS FANBOYS

Can you really justify extra power on the PS4 going by chinese whispers?
Gotta say this site is notorious for fanboyism,seems like the blind leading the blind on here at times.
So what if the PS4 has more RAM,better graphics etc
So what if the Xbox One has more CPU capabilities
So what if a PC can outperform both
WHO GIVES A SH@T?,IF YOU DO THEN GET A LIFE

GAMES RULE.

ENDORSED BY A NON FANBOY

[lllll-lllll]

That's because they were running on a high end pc :)

[FrigidDARKNESS]

GDDR5 is designed for transferring great quantities of data to a densely multiprocessor operating at low clock rates while DDR3 is designed for transferring quantities of data to a multiprocessor operating at high clock rates. Thus the advantages of the GDDR5 in the PS4 will be based on how well the PS4's CPU handles cache. On the graphics side, how well the XB1's ESRAM compensates for DDR3. With MS working hand-in-hand with PC tech for a very very long time, the XB1 may be better balanced than the PS4.

[unicron7]

Did people even pay attention to what Sony showed off? They showed off quite a bit and still have a lot to unveil...whereas Microsoft pretty much showed off the bulk of their games in the pipeline. We still have yet to see anything from Sony Santa Monica's main studio or Naughty Dog.

[wishingW3L]

don't forget about Media Molecule and Quantic Dreams too. But anyway, you know gamers are very gullible. They see stuff, they get excited but forget about the fact that Sony is the studio with the most 1st party developers. Not to mention the most powerful but cheapest console.

[Picnic]

But when people say that Ryse looks limited because of QTEs I think Heavenly Sword was no different on early PS3.

[Psychog]

Ps4> X1 on one hand you have the most powerful hardware with a company with better gaming history .... On the other weaker hardware with windows os spycam os and tv os? Yeah PS4

Secondly PS4 has a better development process than X1 and all of the previous playstations .... Of Sony opens the floodgates to peripherals (because its closer to a PC than xbone) it'll be a no contest as I'd buy a tablet screen controller if Sony doesn't make an official one.

Third : do you guys see who is running the show at MS gaming division ? She is a cornball that made the press conference so Boring .

X1 has live over PS4 ...ill wait and see if Sony can match on that end,but Xbone looks huge and I'm 80% sure it's going to overheat

[Ukdude]

WARNING-FANBOYS MAY NOT AGREE

Show me an official link from microsoft that shows the final spec?-FACT YOU CANT

Show me evidence that the cloud will NOT improve Xbox Ones performance?-FACT YOU CANT

Until you know these answers then im sorry but fanboys are dreaming sh#t

Also microsoft can throw billions at the Xbox One,can sony??

Dont think im a Xbox fan as im not,i have both systems but when people write sh#t with no factual evidence,especially on a biased sony website

CERTAINLY NOT ENDORSED BY SONYS PR DEPT