Microsoft Continues To Be It's Own Worst Enemy With The Xbox One

The Xbox One is a powerful and sophisticated piece of gaming hardware. It has a huge amount of promise, but it will be years before it comes close to reaching its full potential. If only Microsoft could stay out of its own way.

[mayberry]

I love the line " Next up on the Microsoft confuse-o-tron"... No headset is a bad deal imho.

[georgeenoob]

Wow, already knew who submitted this article before I clicked.

OT: Only people saying stuff like "It's own worst enemy" are fanboys trying to give as much bad press as they can give to MS.

The title makes absolutely no sense. A game console with an amazing line-up of exclusives, TV-integration, and a new Xbox live experience with Cloud and 300k servers. Yep, Xbox One is MS' worst enemy. Seriously, give it a rest.

[HammadTheBeast]

Of those 300 k servers, please explain to me how many are physical, and how many are virtual. Cause I could make a thousand of my own right now, they'd just suck.

Please, educate a nub like me.

[No_Limit]

LOL, just looking at the headline and post picture, I already knew who submitted this article.

[YNWA96]

Hammad.... Let this rest... I knew the moment i saw a george comment, you would be here... Why even respond?

[rainslacker]

@hammad

It's actually quite possible MS is up to 300K physical servers right now for Azure. One key detail they left out though is that a majority of them won't be dedicated to X1 services, or at least not dedicated 100%.

That's the beauty of the cloud, it can distribute tasks where needed, but in no way are all those servers going to be used for X1. That would be the largest money sink in history for a game console, far surpassing Sony's cell/blu-ray implementation which caused them to take a huge hit on each unit sold for several years.

Still...at least let those that believe they'll get 300K servers dedicated to their gaming have their fantasy. I'm sure MS can keep up with demand at least.

[georgeenoob]

@Hammad

Listen to Gman

@below:

Hmmm idk maybe Dead Rising 3, Halo, Forza, Sunset Overdrive just to name a few?

[cyguration]

What are these exclusives people keep talking about other than Forza? Titanfall isn't exclusive to the XB1 and only Project Spark (which is also going to be on the Xbox 360) looks really interesting.

Launch wise the console seems to have a bunch of multiplatform titles, none of which seem all that great. Maybe I'm missing something?

[nveenio]

I wonder how Microsoft's cloud compares to Amazon's. Can anyone expand?

[Geezus]

@hammadthebeast nobody knows but i bet a vast majority are physical since MS owns alot of server farms and are in the process of building more as we speak

[Saigon]

I think the missing headset is a matter of opinion; I don't think it is a deal breaker because they still sold 360s that did not include the headset. They were and are trying to market the Kinect as the needed device...

[dantesparda]

"The Xbox One is a powerful and sophisticated piece of gaming hardware"

Keep telling yourself that

[Jessika_S]

Using Kinect as the primary form of communication is just dumb, I don't want to hear the voices of my friends coming out through the same speakers where my games audio is coming out. your going to repeatedly keep telling your friend to "SAY THAT AGAIN", for skype video chatting is great cause your not doing anything else unless your video chatting while your playing and then you have a problem again.

[SilentNegotiator]

Don't forget the inevitable echoing coming from 75% of the players, since their Kinects will be in the same vicinity as their speakers.

Echo is bad enough now with most people using headphones and so many idiots having their volume at deafening levels.

[1lawrence]

i agree

[punisher99]

God why does microsoft flip flop so much? Its like they are new to the gaming industry and don't know what to do or something. There is also a rumor out there saying that they are gonna up the RAM in the xbox1 to 12gb. Just a rumor though

[DragonPs4]

if there is any truth to that rumor that means ms haven't even started production

[punisher99]

Here is the rumor I found earlier. I dont really believe it. But like I said, just a rumor.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

[JokesOnYou]

First off I dont believe this rumor for all the talk about RAM the truth is both already have more than enough I mean even high end pc gaming isn't using more than 4-5GB of RAM I think. Now with that said unlees they have started production its not ☆hard to just add a more RAM, since its not changing the architecture at all, so instead they just go to production with more ram but that would just be very costly for something that would likely never be tapped in the next 6-8+ minimum years by devs if at all considering cloud posibilities and what new compr3ssion techniques are around the corner.

[rainslacker]

@Jokes

While you're probably right, you'll never find a software game developer that says that a system has enough RAM....ever. RAM is one of those things that gets filled up fast.:)

Still, going in with a lot like these systems are does help in the long run. Typically consoles come out with way too little meaning lots of creative tricks to get the most out of it.

[MysticStrummer]

@punisher - Even if that was true, Digital Foundry did a comparison back when PS4 was rumored to have 4GB GDDR5 and One had it's 8GB DDR3 and 32MB ESRAM combo, and concluded that PS4 would still win that battle. Going by that, MS would have to add more than another 4GB to best PS4 in that department, though I supposed the general public might see 12GB and assume it's better even if it's not.

[WeedyOne]

I don't believe the roomers but to play devils advocate here, its not entirely impossible.

They could have started production and still have the ability to expand the RAM. If these consoles are anything like a pc and the motherboards have extra RAM slots, all they would need to do is slide in another RAM card.

Probably not though but hey anything is possible when you don't know all the details!

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

Actually it would be to late in the cycle to change components as they are already having to work on the x1 for the 180 they did.

If they changed specs this late in the game they would have to go back rethink things and delay the console release and that's the last thing they prolly want to do by giving Sony that much of a headstart.

[Geezus]

thats a good rumor i hope it comes through more ramz is never a bad thing

[creatchee]

@punisher99

"There is also a rumor out there saying that they are gonna up the RAM in the xbox1 to 12gb."

Oh jeeze. Now instead of repeatedly hearing how much better 7 gigs of GDDR5 are than 5 gigs of DDR3, I'm going to have to hear how much better 7 gigs of GDDR5 are than 9 gigs of DDR3.

Kill. Me. Now.

[JBSleek]

Hypervisor allows 7 GB of Ram to be used so it would be 11GB of ram used.

[headblackman]

I don't we them upping the system memory anymore. I'm certain that will stay at 8gigs. however I do believe that being that the details on the GPU is so vague that the upgrade will be in that area. its not hard to believe that there will be 8gigs of gddr5 for the GPU and 8gigs of system memory for the CPU which will mainly focus on the multitasking and the 3 operating systems. this would make loads of sense

[hakesterman]

Ain't Happening.

[medman]

First folks want to believe the cloud is "like the power of 3 xbox one's" because some bs bozo marketing gasbag on the stage says so. Now, they are deluding themselves into believing that a corporation that has already stated it's system specifications is going back to the drawing board out of desperation and will increase ram this late in the game? Development stage is over folks...it's approaching production time. Orders have to be placed many months in advance from suppliers to meet demand. There is already word from Microsoft's camp that their supply will not match the numbers Sony is shipping. Unless they want to delay the Xbone a full six months, there is no way to implement a ram upgrade in the limited time left. There is no time, and quite frankly, Microsoft has always shown that it loves your money and so they would not offer more ram at 499. You xbox fans better pray that rumor about the Xbone having to be underclocked due to overheating isn't true, and stop worrying about more ram. It isn't coming to save you.

[TheEvilWithin]

Wait I thought Microsoft said Spec's don't matter??? I highly doubt there is any upping of the RAM. Its a rumor for a reason. Some Xbox fan boy couldn't cope with the thought of the PS4 being more powerful then the X1.

[Nolando]

that would be awesome if it was using 12 GB of ddr3. would take away the ram concerns about the xbox one.

[HammadTheBeast]

It would also mean they'd have to begin production much later, and Sony would get a half-year head start.

[warewolfSS]

Are you always this rediculous? I bet you are insane annoying in real life dude.

[UNGR]

They did it with the 360 with a much shorter time period with the upgrades. Adding RAM, and overclocking the system is generally an easy process. This far out it's still a viable option if they want to do it, it's just a matter of if, and when. Time will tell I suppose, I guess we just have to wait.

[DragonKnight]

I think what's happening is that Microsoft banked too much on the ill-informed casual audience to stay ill-informed, and when that didn't happen all of their plans went to hell and they are running around like a chicken with its head cut off now.

[punisher99]

I truly believe that microsoft thought that Sony was gonna announce the PS4 at 499 (bundled with the PSeye) as well as strict DRM policies as well. But when E3 came, microsoft basically got caught with their pants down while Sony laughed and took advantage.

[DragonKnight]

Maybe, but they stuck to their guns up until around the point of the Jimmy Fallon show where Microsoft saw first hand that mainstream television, and thus mainstream audiences, didn't like their DRM plans. If that didn't happen, maybe the pre-orders might have pushed them to change their minds, but it sure as hell wasn't the core community that did it.

[T2]

Bingo . I predicted a 399 and 449 ps4 months ago saying they would never top 500 again ... Noone, not even ms believed me lol

[kewlkat007]

Didn't MS add extra Ram for Gears of War..late in the game.

http://www.1up.com/news/epi...

[dcj0524]

Wouldn't be surprised if microsoft upped its ram. All of the exclusives showed on ps4 was running on 4GB gddr5. They put 8GB in on feburary 21st. All the developers were surprised but pleased. I can see microsoft pulling a similar stunt so they can match or exceed the ps4's ram.

[hakesterman]

Won't Happen.

[dantesparda]

Its just to late in the game. And I bet you some fanboy started this rumor, lets see some proof of this sh!t, bet you wont find any. This is just wishful thinking

[grassyknoll]

Only people who don't understand design would disagree with you. I doubt there's any room for more memory modules on the silicon.

[medman]

No.

[horndog]

Headlines don't really make sense but I should had known it was posted by the same tool who surfs all day looking for anything to bash the x1. Probably the same sad little man who phones the stores to see who's got the most preorders. Lol what a pos. Lol

[s8anicslayer]

If true what would stop sony from doing the same?

[kewlkat007]

Money...

MS did this before apparently.

[Geezus]

yeah the cost especially since gddr5 is more expensive than ddr3 they would probably have to raise the price of the console or eat the losses which since sony is not so financially stable might not be worth to take the lossses

[PFFT]

About a billion or so in debt yeah not financially stable at all. Its all good though once the PS4 releases all this will change.

[headblackman]

pricing will stop them from doing so. the Xbox one was over priced to leave room for the hardware increase. the kinect isn't what increased the price when considering the lower specs. the kids etc would only put it at a 349 or 379 range. not a 499 range. they left room for the GPU upgrade that is tpstill rather a big mystery to the public. but as for Sony, they can't because we all know that they are taking a loss on this ps4 with the 399 price tag while using 8gigs of gddr5 memory. that's not cheap at all. they will take a loss in order to gain an early fan base. smart, but dangerous all at the same time.

[Agent_hitman]

Microsoft Continues To Be It's Own Worst Enemy With The Xbox One: That could be true, even in my country Microrosft is not even advertising their 360 and other xbox products here..

[MultiConsoleGamer]

I have to admit that picture cracked me up.

[memots]

Another article with the same b.s

Troloololollllllllllolloooll

Seriously feels like we are being trolled , please stop writing/submitting the articles over
and over again.

[UNGR]

It's MarieHellFutra, all she does is submit flame bait out of shear defense out of her console of choice. It's honestly sad to watch. Every time she puts an article up it's the exact same thing every time.

[n4rc]

All these ms trolling posts are from the same 2-3 people and its constant..

Makes you wonder where it all goes wrong for someone to dedicate so much time to such a idiotic cause.. A hateful one at that

[UNGR]

Welcome to N4G. Valid criticisms of Sony are met with instantaneous "bubble down" actions for trolling, flagged as spam, and 100 replies about how you're an idiot. The community here is pretty bad. If you're looking for good comments look for Snookies, God Mars, Angelic Ice, and Georgeenoob to name a few. Avoid Dedicated to Gamers, Dragon knight, Hicken, Hammad the Beast, StrongMan if he ever returns, MariaHellFutura, and anything with a picture of or referring to Kaz Hirai in the name. The comment section will be a little less painful to read.

[zeeshan]

I can't believe how much time you have and can't decide if I should feel sorry for you or not.

[gamer7804]

i'd like a headset included sure, but really if i use my own headphones and use kinect for audio chat, that would be doable even if not ideal.

[SwiftArsonist]

i think its not a hardware thing this time around. developers will find bright ideas to take advantage of each console's individual strengths to produce high quality visuals. In all honestly I dont think one is better than the other, both offer unique gaming experiences and to see fanboys in this day and age is just fcking sad.

[JunioRS101]

This just in:

"We have people on the ground confirming, Microsoft execs gathered around a poster of Kaz Hirai have committed mass suicide. I repeat, mass suicide at Microsoft."

[RememberThe357]

Anyone else notice how slick that site looks? Props to their web designer.

[Flames76]

Yup its so bad the Xbox One just keeps selling out everywhere