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Did Microsoft and Nintendo Follow Sony and Hurt Their Own Chances In New Console Generation?

Sony has made many business mistakes and in gamer's eyes, the launch of the PS3 is one of their more recent stumbles. The PS3 featured a new 'cell' architecture which took game developers a lot of time to master and until they did, they were limited what they could do with their hardware. Are Nintendo and Microsoft are hurting their own chances in the new console generation by doing something similar? - Lazytechguys

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Maddens Raiders4365d ago (Edited 4365d ago )

"Sony has made many business mistakes and in gamer's eyes, the launch of the PS3 is one of their more recent stumbles. The PS3 featured a new 'cell' architecture which took game developers a lot of time to master and until they did, they were limited what they could do with their hardware..."

Haha, depsite the premise that this article posits, if launching with the CELL eventually caused the PS3 to outclass all current gen consoles with its software offerings and extremely high graphical fidelity, I would hazard to say that MS and Ninty will be just fine.

Cmk01214365d ago

Wii is up 22 million units in this console war... And will win this gens war. I do however think Sonys success so far has just been microsofts poor marketing and the mob mentality that followed not the ps4 or content itself. MS is overly confident coming into
This race, very little marketing and any of it to be found has been crap PR. Sony is at least putting out commercials and adds to
Show off the new UI. MS is literally sitting idle after shit storm of negative press and not condoning joe consumer why their console is 500 while ps4 is 500. I'm a Xbox guy but their complacent and apathy is mind boggling. Nintendo has no chance this gen period

PSN_ZeroOnyx4365d ago

Go watch a movie at the theater, that's where X1 commercials are airing at the moment.

Belking4365d ago

mS and Nintendo will be fine. they have something sony doesn't, and that is a huge cash reserve. This is do or die for sony. They have to come through with something good.

GeisT4365d ago

Graphically it did outclass the other consoles, however I feel like overlooking the difficulty the playstation 3 put developers through is narrow minded. The ps3 had a lot of issues with security "the big hack that happened" and games locking up and glitching "most notably Skyrim" I've logged lots of hours on both and can also say that PS+ is still not up to XBox Live standards. Regardless, I'm glad everyone decided to follow a more stereotypical type of architecture for nextgen.

Malice-Flare4365d ago

both MS and Nintendo saw success this current gen, with Sony doing catch-up. sorry to say, but it all went to their heads: Nintendo thought they can capitalize on the Wii branding, lower power hardware and a new gimmick. and, MS thought they can change the buying habits of gamers to something more favorable to them at the risk of all the goodwill they earned this gen...

Serg4365d ago

Sony came out in 2005 about how the PS3 is a multimedia hub, no longer a simple games console. They have tacked on so many capabilities that weren't gaming related, it ended up hurting them. They even included the PS2 hardware to make it backwards compatible, resulting in the infamous 599 price tag. They ended up cutting down and even scrapping a lot of features, to get the price to a reasonable level, everything from changing the look of the console (Fat launch PS3's had a chrome-look on top, a few years later they replaced it with grey plastic), to ripping out the backwards compatibility, removing the card reader and reducing the amount of USB ports.

Microsoft countered with: "We have a gaming device!", making fun of Sony for trying to include all that stuff into a single device. Look at them now, doing the exact same thing, apart from the draconian DRM, which has been scrapped already. As many before have pointed out, this is 2006 in reverse.

I agree about Nintendo though, they were trying to capitalize on the success of the Wii, which backfired horribly, because they didn't realize what made the Wii successful. The Wii's controls weren't as scary to people as a regular controller. They could mimik real world actions to play the games. Nintendo thought the Wii was successful because of innovation, which was not the case at all.

GeisT4365d ago

The blu-ray feature was a good addition to the PS3, but that hardly made it a media center. Xbox's dashboard and apps make it feel much more connected and "media centery" than the PS3. In fact the only thing I don't use my xbox for is blu-ray stuff.

The weird thing is that pretty much all of the most exciting games are coming to both consoles next gen, so it really comes down to whether or not you prefer the Microsoft or Playstation interface.

xReDeMpTiOnx4365d ago (Edited 4365d ago )

I could be wrong but I think Microsoft has done way to much damage to themself already, the amount of ground they have to make up is astounding and with ps4 getting that much stronger it gets only harder.

Gamescon should be big for Sony as they still have 14 unannounced exclusives

Microsoft only at max has 4 exclusives left to announce of the 15 they said within first year of console span

Cmk01214365d ago

Yes and no, ms has done tons of damage but its fixable . Problem is they aren't attempting to fix it. The exclusives you speak of for Sony (30 promised) they don't have enough first party studious to even do this... Look for psn arcade type title to make
Up a fair share of those meanwhile MS exclusives will
Be from their bigger studious IMO. But microsofts marketing is complete crap! Just blows my mind

xReDeMpTiOnx4365d ago

It's 20 exclusives, but if you think about it they do have the first party support. Theirs actually quite a few party's that have serpearte teams for separate projects so its possible they may have multiple titles.

But no I don't think all of them will be first party but I do bieve knowing Sony they will not disappoint with the unannounced games.

PSN_ZeroOnyx4365d ago

M$ have bought 5 studios, 5, whereas Sony has over a dozen great studios with proven success. More faith in Sony studios than M$.

PositiveEmotions4365d ago

So far their not making any mistakes so far

no_more_trolling4365d ago

only mistake i see is your incorrect use of "their"

dethpuck4365d ago

Sony isn't perfect it's way to early to crown them

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer1d 8h ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole1d 2h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK20h ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent7510h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM15h ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif13h ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer9h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin9h ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent7510h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer9h ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM5h ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

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Fishy Fingers1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer1d 7h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

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HyperMoused1d 7h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher1d 7h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning771d 3h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay15h ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer9h ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai13d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX12d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK12d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog12d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor12d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje13d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra12d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje12d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac12d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex12d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje12d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter11d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake13d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos12d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8612d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos12d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8612d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr11d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8611d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2312d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos12d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker12d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg12d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake12d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr11d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B12d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain20d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198119d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK18d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts18d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK18d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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