Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Gets Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII Crossover, Fans Rage

It was already known that Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII will have a costume themed on the gear of the Miqo’te race from Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn and FFXIV Producer and Director Naoki Yoshida promised that he’d think about a way to “return the favor”. Today, during a special stage event at Japan Expo in Paris he did just that, announcing that the upcoming MMORPG will include a special questline that will star Lightning herself.

The funny part is that this caused an half-riot between the fans on the official forums.

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Mr_Nuts2028d ago

Urgh...really, they are trying to shoehorn Lightning in ANOTHER GAME. For f*** sake Square Enix, the majority of us don't like Lightning. One of the many reasons most people are buying FF14 is to escape the horrible taste FF13 left in peoples mouths.

They need to scrap this, they shouldn't link the games they should be separate. It's like Square Enix are trying to force us to like her.

nick3092028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

Lighthing is freaking sexy, whats not to like , ff 13 was amazing....

DragonKnight2028d ago

"Lighthing is freaking sexy."


"whats not to like , ff 13 was amazing."

Do you have a lifetime?

BiggCMan2028d ago

@Dragon, so people who like FF13 are too young to have played the older games and see how much "better" they were? Wtf.

I'm really sick of FF13 haters. If the 13 series was so shitty, it wouldn't have good sales OR reviews, of which it has both.

Mr_Nuts2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )


It had good reviews/sales because it was the first next gen FF game and people were expecting something amazing...however that didn't come to pass

It's not like articles around the web pick on FF13 for no reason, most articles/people can obviously state the massive faults with FF13. You can see this in the sales/reviews of FF13-2.

Hell I could give you one good reason which would link onto smaller reasons why FF13 is's anything but a FF game

Reibooi2028d ago

I liked Lightning and one thing I thought was true was that most people liked her even if they hated XIII and wished she was in a better game and that she has kinda become the thing to rage on since SE won't like the XIII franchise die.

Dagobert2028d ago

Nick, the reason you find Lightning sexy and FFXIII amazing is because:

A. You find Cloud very sexy because Lightning uses the same model as cloud. All they did was make the hair pink and longer, and add breast. They didn't remove the penis in the model since cloud wasn't modeled with a penis anyways.

B. You find the worst FF game to be amazing. The FF game that literally had the worst storyline in any FF game. I mean even FFVII with it's shitty storyline was far better than XIII. Hell Chocobo Racing had a better storyline than XIII.

JoySticksFTW2028d ago

There, I said it.

But most FF fans are sick of Lightning, because FFXIII was such a disappointment and SE still shoves her down our throats.

And please dont talk sales, when FF used to sell like crazy. But each Lightning game sells less than the last. The first one did ok because it caught gamers off-guard due to its name and pedigree.

Glad some of you like FFXIII, but that doesn't mean the rest of us do not have legitimate gripes with the game.

DragonKnight2028d ago

@JoySticksFTW: I like Snow's look because it's very reminiscent of FFVIII's badass supreme, Seifer (if Snow had Seifer's attitude, he'd have been a better character in my opinion), and I think Snow has the absolute best character theme ever made in the series, which is saying a lot because there are some truly great character themes. In my opinion, Snow's theme is up there with Shadow from FFVI, Cyan from FFVI, and Auron from FFVIII.

The one thing I miss the most about the older FF games is the extremely memorable music. FFX was the last FF game with any memorable music, but even it was outclassed by older FF games. The song stuck in my head right now is..

I have no idea why, but it is. Lol.

360ICE2028d ago

"Do you have a lifetime?" was well said. It's not even semantically correct.

chadwarden2027d ago

The more lightning, the better

SugarSoSweet2027d ago

Lightning is not sexy Lightning is just a prudish tomboy and FF13 sucks

ThanatosDMC2027d ago (Edited 2027d ago )

Too young and too stupid to consider that trash of a final fantasy game a Final Fantasy game or JRPG for that matter.

This review pretty much sums up FF13 perfectly:

SegaSaturn6692027d ago

ff13: Mash X until the battle is over and run from point A to point B, repeat.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II2027d ago

Lighthing is freaking sexy, whats not to like , ff 13 was amazing....

Wow not sure if serious.

Aery2027d ago

Lighting looks like a young boy with nice feature ... Nevermind, anyone have their own taste :)

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Abriael2028d ago

1: The game already has fanservice from every single FF game ever created. It only makes sense to have XIII too.

2: No they won't scrap it. May as well live with it.

Mr_Nuts2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

No it dosen't. So your telling me theres a cross over in FF14 A Realm Reborn with FF7, FF8, FF9 etc where Cloud, Squall, Zidine show up and where we get to wear their costumes/weapons.

Abriael2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

@Mr_Nuts: There's Cloud's buster sword, his omnislash, ultima weapon and a ton more.

There's nothing wrong with having a *dimension traveling* character in the FFXIV lore.

As a matter of fact *ALL* the characters that came back from version 1.0 of the game did just that, for five years no less.

DragonKnight2028d ago

@Abriael: The difference between the FFXIII crossover and the other FF games is twofold.

One, the FFXIII crossover has Lighting IN THE DAMN GAME! The majority of FF fans HATE Lightning. She's the most sterile character in a series that featured silent protagonists in the very first game. It makes no sense to put Lightning in FFXIV when she's in 3 FFXIII games. Put someone else in there, like Sazh.

Two, the other FF games are actually good, and people get excited at the homage paid to them, unlike FFXIII where most simply want it to be done and over with.

Abriael2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

@Dragonknight: "The majority of FF fans HATE Lightning."

You should really avoid making the mistake of confusing your own opinion with that of the "majority", you know?

You =/= The Majority.

As for the game not being "good", that's also your opinion, that has nothing to do with the objective quality of the game, or what "the majority" thinks of it.

PS: And while some vocal western "fan" rages, the picture attached to this comment is what Japanese fans do. Freakin adorable :D

PPS: Lol at DragonKnight saying "Japan is definitely the minority". Just lol.

Guess where Final Fantasy games sell the most mate? I'll give you a hint. It's not North America or Europe.

PPPS @DragonKnight: Really? all it takes are eyes? Maybe you actually have a statistically relevant poll I can put my "eyes" on?

Cause if you don't, maybe you should talk for yourself and not for the majority. And yes, you don't.

dendenmooshi2028d ago

As far as design goes, Realm Reborn has derived a lot from other installments to the series. FF6 Magitechs will be in game. The dragoon armor prototype is basically Kain's armor.

This is different though. They're saying that Lightning will have a quest specifically for her. I, for one, don't mind it (she seemed much more natural as a side role in 13-2). Other characters that would be cool in game would be FFT characters (beoulve family and Delita), FF6 characters (sabin n setzer fit the world well).

For me it wouldn't break immersion because the reason I play ff14 is because it's a FF world.

DragonKnight2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

@Abriael: I'm not confusing my opinion with the majority, I haven't even stated my opinion. All it takes are eyes to see the majority do not like Lightning.

**EDIT** Who's talking about sales Abriael? Snookies said Japan likes Lightning, I said they're in the minority there. Where are numbers brought up in that discussion? Just because you want Lightning to be your waifu, is no need to throw all semblance of reasoning out the window.

**EDIT 2** My words don't have to speak for how good FFXIII is or not. Not when you can clearly see how many people hated the game, and how many DIDN'T buy the sequel. Face facts, FFXIII sucks.

dendenmooshi2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

As to the majority hating Lightning statement, that's wrong. People may have hated FF13, they may hate Snow and hope, but I think the majority feel indifference more than hate towards Lightning.

The major criticism of FF13 was it being "too linear" (hated that over usage). That caused the hate towards the installment. Unrelatable characters may have been a problem, but I would blame Hope and Snow for that.

SO71D2028d ago

@Abriael - The only people that love Lightning are the people that have pledged their blind loyalty to Square, in their eyes they can do no wrong.

There are fans that like the games and then there are obsessive fans that love everything Final Fantasy related, including all the cheap merchandise. (They tend to be obsessed with Japan as well.)

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Snookies122028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

As I said in the beta forums with people getting angry... They've already said they'd be doing fan service for ALL of their Final Fantasy games. It's only natural to have some from XIII. Don't like it? Then don't worry about it. Do other things. It's not like you're forced to wear Lightning's clothing. It's just an option for other people to put on their characters for fun. Shouldn't have an effect on anyone complaining as it doesn't affect their character in any way.

The main reason her character model is in the game is because it's the newest of the franchise. It's most likely easy to slap in there, whereas they'd have to completely redo older characters to make them fit in with the graphics of XIV ARR. If I had to guess, we might see Noctis in there somewhere as well.

DragonKnight2028d ago

Fan service though.

Fan... service.

I think you see where I'm going.

But anyway, Lightning wasn't necessary for fan service to begin with. There are other characters and other themes they could have used. People are tired of Lightning, that's why the rage happened.

Snookies122028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

@DragonKnight - Actually, a lot of people in Japan really love Lightning and are fans of XIII. So yeah, it is actually fan service lol.

As I said before though, ALL Final Fantasy games. It's just some clothes a few weapons and a special mission that have to do with XIII. It's not like that's a big portion of the game or anything like that. It's like 0.01% of the game that involves anything to do with XIII. Again, it's just there for people who like that. You're in no way forced to participate in any of this.

I mean shoot, FFVII fan service includes Omni-slash limit break, the Ultima Weapon which looks to be a boss, materia for weapons, etc. That's much more exposure for that particular title than XIII is getting. I'm happy with any FF related stuff going in personally!

DragonKnight2028d ago

No other FF game has a mission though. That's the thing people are raging about. Too much Lightning. Japan can love her, but they are definitely in the minority there.

Mr_Nuts2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

*** They've already said they'd be doing fan service for ALL of their Final Fantasy games ***

Then why start with this one...untill they announce FF6/7/8/9/10 cross overs then I will take everything they'll say with a pinch of salt.

With Square is a hard thing to come by them

People keep saying oh theres other fan services like limit breaksfrom FF7 or Magiteks from FF6 but not the bloody main character from the game getting their own quest.

Thats like comparing Armour/Weapon DLC to an expansion pack with missions

NegativeCreepWA2028d ago

Mr Nuts, you see the mechs in a lot of the pics lately, those are a cross over from FFVI.

It's just an outfit, I don't see what the big deal is.

Snookies122028d ago

@Mr_Nuts and DragonKnight - Yes, XIII gets a character/mission, but again... FFVII gets the ULTIMA WEAPON. That's a HUGE addition. We haven't seen everything SE is putting into A Realm Reborn yet, so just wait and see, yeah? I'm sure there are more nods to series' that have yet to be revealed...

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TheOneWhoIsTornApart2028d ago

No fanservice in XIV? what about the Magitek Armors from FF6 or the Judges from FF12 or the limit breaks from FF7? I can go on and on about this so hopefully you get the idea that FFXIII fanservice is not a big deal and thers a lot of people who would actually enjoy it so please stop complaining about XIII. All I ever see you do on here is complain.

iamtehpwn2028d ago

I am confused why fans are outraged. The game has a remade dungeon from FF3, Magiteks from FF6, Omnislash and a future Golden Saucer to be added to the game, and lots of other FF nostalgia. It's already been confirmed that FF14 will be dedicated over time to bringing lots of FF nostalgia/cross overs to the game, this includes FF13.

EXVirtual2028d ago

What would your reaction be if she was in Kingdom Hearts 3?

Mr_Nuts2028d ago

I dread to think...actually I don't want to think about it.

Snookies122028d ago

Actually, I think Noctis would be a better fit for KH3. Considering they're on the same generation of consoles. :]

JAMurida2028d ago

Or maybe people are buying FFXIV because they liked FFXI and/or wanted play a new MMO? I'm pretty sure FFXIII had no bearing on their decision to buy FFXIV ARR, seeing to how it's not even remotely the same game.

MTEC82028d ago

I bought 13 in the first week. I have been a ff fan for more than a decade, the story and voice overs bugged me enough to stop playing after trying to like it....gave it 10 hours stopped. One of the worst ever. Hoping for a new ff tatics in the near future, loved 7,8 and 10 as well.

Gamer19822028d ago

Why do people give a crap anyway? Are you being forced to wear it? NO! It's it detrimental to the experience if you don't wear it? NO! So theres no reason to complain. I hate people who just complain because they can. Gamers have turned into right moaners lately and we need to actually stand up for real causes not lightning costumes and anti-ea crap..

Tdmd2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

I don't care (as I don't hate Lightning, just XIII), but I think that the reason Lightning haters are raging is because even if they won't be forced to play the quest, it might result in a LOT of Lightning clones roaming around and as so, they'll be forced to see a character they hate everywhere in a game they want to love. It might be distracting or hurt the imersion for them. Does that makes sense?

Alexmaru2027d ago

I think it's a good think to cross games like this! You get some content from (maybe) your number 1 FF game to another.

Like Lightning get Clouds Soilder outfit in Lightning Returns! Thats great! ;)

Great job Square Enix! ;)

McGamer2027d ago

If you like FF, you like FF. Quit whining for the sake of just to whine.

I am a FF fan and I am definitely not "raging".

arronax-12027d ago

Just because were fans of the FF-series doesn't mean we can't post comments about it moron. Besides this is a place for posting them. Don't like it, then YOU get the hell out.

levian2027d ago

I actually really like Lightning's design. I hated everything about FF13 and 13-2, but as a character model she looks pretty kickass.

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Lionalliance2028d ago

Stop with Lighting already!!

Abriael2028d ago

@DragonKnight: because whining about this kind of minutiae is immensely silly.

DragonKnight2028d ago

Didn't realize you doubled as TheOneWhoIsTornApart Abriael.

helghast1022028d ago

Not raging, that's awesome.

Kyosuke_Sanada2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

Well, they both have poked fun at each other so I say why not. I hope this triggers an influx more costumes but from past Squaresoft games that fits the era like Xenogears, Vagrant Story, Chrono Trigger and such.....

TheOneWhoIsTornApart2028d ago

Wow a Xenogears costume set would be amazing. As you can see by my avatar that Im a big fan of the game. Citan and Fei's costumes could work very well in this game since they are traditional Chinese inspired clothing that would look good in a fantasy game.

Ksar2028d ago

FFXIII was awesome. And Lightning is is the favourite female character in Japan and Europe. In this situation, it's completly logic if she's present in FFXIV.

And don't be surprised if we see her in Kingdom Hearts 3. Now, you have to control your anger despite your bad taste.

arronax-12028d ago

Don't you mean YOUR bad taste?

NihonjinChick2028d ago (Edited 2028d ago )

Don't you just hate opinions?

I mean, that's all that's on this page, opinions.

"I hate Lightning"

"I love Lightning"

It's all just opinions. None of the opinions on this page equal facts.

Square is not putting a gun to your head and forcing you to dress as Lightning and do this questline.

They are just trying to appeal to as many of their fans as possible.