TechExclusive: "Well, a game console “harvest time” is once again upon us and as expected, the two giants, Microsoft and Sony are both vying for your hard-earned money."
In the perfect world, both.. In reality, PS4 Price is a major factor
get a ps4 because its 50% more powerful than xbox one and itll have way more exclusive titles of high quality based on history of the playstation generations.
For me... It is all about value. Xbox One has a few games that I am interested in, but they are far too few from what I wanted to see. Once again it is shooter central on Xbox with one racer. Those aren't for me. then xbl.... No. Tv features can wait until I am 70 years old. PlayStation with PlayStation plus alone is enough to hold me over. But when all of the games I really am interested in are on one console plus a few extras? PS4. Sorry but Microsoft's console once again isn't very attractive to me. It is simply the games.
I prefer Sony, mainly because I trust them more but even I know that's not true... both systems have great exclusives it's why people who can afford it buy both but I will be honest a majority of the games I enjoy more are multi-platform these days. I won't be getting an Xbox One because I've got a very powerful gaming PC. PS4 + PC = Win/Best Of Both Worlds.. in my opinion.
Hatsune-Miku, I'll wait for proper spec bench tests of both consoles because we don't know how well the custom embedded eSRAM will work in combination with DDR3 in the X1, vs ps4 standard GDDR5. The eurogamer article looked at 1 aspect in a vacuum not the overall hardware running games in realtime, given the chip standard DDR3 is custum built with embedded 32mb eSRAM there is no real world comparison until X1 is released and spec tested at the very least logic suggests it has more performance than a standard DDR3, therefore any assertions without a proper bench test is speculation. No different if I said that the Azure cloud makes X1 more powerful than ps4= speculation. Here you go from a reputable independent tech site: "Depending on how the eSRAM is managed, it’s very possible that the Xbox One could have comparable effective memory bandwidth to the PlayStation 4" http://www.anandtech.com/sh... -So there is no confirmation that ps4 is more powerful, short of bench testing actual units its all guess work, lol but Either way given the hardware similarities this gen there's less of a gap in raw performance this gen than last gen, which means devs have plenty of power for both and likely wont see any noticeable difference in graphics/performance of multis, then of course indivdual devs talent+budget will play a part in what we see from exclusives. Also YES ps4 is cheaper because micro is smart enough to include a high tech camera for consistent dev support in new ways to play games= X1 costs more. -All that said again thes articles dont add anything to the "reasons" why you should get 1 or the other.
^ Are you actually serious right now?
@joke you can't add the esram and ddr3 speed together like that because because the data move engines zaps bandwidth.
@JokesOnYou Whilst that 'may' limit the bandwidth difference between the XBoxOne and PS4, you seem to be forgetting the that PS4 has 6 (50%) more Compute Units than the XBoxOne 18 vs. 12, in addition to twice as many ROPS 32 vs. 16. You can do what you want with the eSRAM but it isn't going to change the fact the PS4 is a more powerful piece of hardware! Your comment "So there is no confirmation that ps4 is more powerful" doesn't seem to follow the facts. On Subject: Get the console you believe will deliver you the games that appeal to you over the course of its lifetime. For me personally Sony (PS) has already proved they will deliver on this with regular, diverse quality titles.
zebramocha No, Read the article it explains all this without getting too technical standard GDDR5 is more powerful than standard DDR3 but micro has added custom built embedded eSRAM are you saying it is useless or just continue to spout myths: "There are merits to both approaches. Sony has the most present-day-GPU-centric approach to its memory subsystem: give the GPU a wide and fast GDDR5 interface and call it a day. It’s well understood and simple to manage. The downsides? High speed GDDR5 isn’t the most power efficient, and Sony is now married to a more costly memory technology for the life of the PlayStation 4.Microsoft’s approach leaves some questions about implementation, and is potentially more complex to deal with depending on that implementation. Microsoft specifically called out its 8GB of memory as being “power friendly”, a nod to the lower power operation of DDR3-2133 compared to 5.5GHz GDDR5 used in the PS4." "Even if Microsoft can’t deliver the same effective memory bandwidth as Sony, it also has fewer GPU execution resources - it’s entirely possible that the Xbox One’s memory bandwidth demands will be inherently lower to begin with." http://www.anandtech.com/sh... -So in a nutshell which system architecture will PERFORM better considering all these factors...you guys act like I'm making this up read various tech sites have similar comparison analysis from people who do tech for a living not fan service. Dont hate me for not believing fanboys who will take anything said in favor of what they want to bieve and twist it as if they have definitive fact about how these things work, I just research and try to educate myself with everything, so I'm not even saying which is more powerful I'm just saying tech heads say we dont know yet....tell them their wrong.
Look at the photo 'nuff said.
Jokes... There is no way sony would waste mucho money on GDDR5 if it didn't give then an edge. I'm very skeptical of this magic eSram.
As of now the X1 technically had more exclusives, not counting indies. Just get both, no sense missing out on good games. EDIT: @Mikeyy above me. "There is no way sony would waste mucho money on GDDR5 if it didn't give then an edge." They wasted money on the Cell processor and an overly expensive Bluray drive in the first generation of PS3's. They've wasted money before, they can do it again.
Price is definitely a strong factor but it is one of many. The games are an important factor too. For me, personally (I REITERATE, FOR ME PERSONALLY) I prefer the games on X1 more FOR NOW. I am buying both but if you're really torn between the two then you should strongly consider the PS4. Like the current generation, multi-platform games look set to be amazing next-gen and with the PS4, you will most likely get the technically superior one. Also, PS+ offers great value comparatively. But yeah, you decide. Don't let a community bully you into submission.
Lol, I like that you have to put a disclaimer after virtually ever word just so the hardcore fanboys won't be able to find some reason to attack you. Though they'll still probably find a way. Oh internet.
For me, I can't get over the fact that the Xbox One is a spybox. Especially since Microsoft was one of the first companies to cooperate with the NSA domestic spying program. Sure they say they Kinect doesn't record you, but I'm not about to trade my freedom/privacy for games. PS4=easy win
@ DragonKnight Lol, yeah man. I appear to have a legion of haters for some reason. I really, honestly, try be as objective as possible. Ah well, it's not a bad thing if you're forever alone on N4G.
@Septic: Do you have a stalker yet? You're not truly hated until someone follows you around opposing you no matter what you're talking about. Lol.
@Dragon Haha yup I do. PM harassment and all. I feel your pain, trust me!
In a perfecect world, one you prefer. In reality, one with better exlusives. This time, one with less anemic hardware.
Ah that sucks. Price is not an issue for me so I will get both. Actually to of each, because my kids are gamers as well. Hope you win a next gen console.
and NVIDIA 780 GTX costs 1000$ so what?
Pre-ordered both of them. I personally can't wait for next gen. I got a few graduation gift cards so basically the PS4 is paid off and the Xbox is half paid off :D
why not get a PS4, a couple years of subscription, and 8 games? :D
minimur12 - That's pretty much the plan, minus the amount of games because I'd be broke! :P If only I could hit the lottery right now.
PS4, price, system specs and games. That was easy.
both look amazing but ps4 is just a bit more tempting to get
Ps4 Less Price More Powerful Great games Remote play with vita Naughty dog the giant developer My favorite god of war series Controller look stylish & comfort to play games Replace Hard Drive manually
- More powerful hardware. - Less expensive. - Camera is optional. - 20 exclusives within the first year, as opposed to the One's 15. Not to mention that, in recent years, Sony just has a better track record concerning exclusives. - Superior indie support. - Removable HDD. - Gaikai for streaming and game storage, even for current-gen titles. - Yoshida has confirmed that they are quite capable of cloud computing (Though it doesn't matter all that much for either company considering our current internet infrastructure). - Remote play with Vita. - Several services (Netflix, for example) are offered outside of the paywall. - While PS+ may be required for most multiplayer games, F2P games like Planetside 2 can still be played without it. - Only one PS+ account is needed on a PS4 in order for all other accounts on the system to play online. Last, but not least... - It's not being made by a company who, up until recently, was seemingly trying its best to screw over consumers.
- NSA will likely have access to any info Kinect provides MS
PS4 just because I not a huge fan of Microsoft's tactics
their development community is great though fun games, but I can do without halo and gears of war
Xbox one because of killer instinct. Price is not a factor for me.
*Xbox One has the cloud which will vastly improve online mode and multiplayer *Xbox One exclusive line ups. *even with AA MS new controller batteries will last longer than current 360 controller *buy 1 year gold for $40. (amazon) *1080p kinect (that doesn't watch you) *Snap Mode, Twitch etc. *Same nearly perfect controller(in my preference) *HDMI In (TV and Current gen console) their own on way of backwards compatibility *$500 is not steep at all. When people want something bad they will go to lengths to get it. that's my reason. It doesn't apply to everyone else but that's mine. Though my gf is getting a ps4 so that's a plus
Your gf is wiser than you.
his girlfriend is his hand.........
That's one wise hand. Should be careful it doesn't get executed, like a certain other wise Hand did.
@Emmson meh and I tap that when I want and @minimur12 why you mad son? :-D I thought you and Fistina and Handy had it good. I bet it hurts knowing you're forever alone! :-0
PS1 had the greatest console games of its time PS2 had the greatest console games of its time PS3 has the current greatest console games I think i'll put my Money on PS4. *Looks better *More powerful *Cheaper *Proven track record for long term game support
PS1 had the greatest games of its time. (Not really) More like N64 had the greatest of its time, goldeneye, Mario 64, mario kart, super smash bros to name but a few. Not to mention being able to play 4 player out of the box. PS2 had the greatest games of its time. (Like what) Cube had wind waker, again the mario games and super smash bros, star wars rouge squadron games, the metroid games (which were given the highest acclaims at their time). Xbox had halo, project Gotham, the first forza, oddworld. And of course the start of Live. PS3 has the current greatest console games (Maybe maybe not) It has some good exclusives like GOW, killzone. But i still think for the enjoyment and for the amount you would play the games for id say the Wii won, Mario kart gets played a hell lot even to this day, Super smash bros Brawl although the playing online was flawed it still was a great game to play with local friends. Mario galaxy brought a new way to play mario. Yes i might be going on about the main Nintendo games but to be honest there are far few games Nintendo have actually brought out that have not been good. While Sony and Microsoft have had their flops big time. Hopefully with everyone saying stuff like oh well the PS4 is better because of this and that and the price, well then go for a WII U, Looks better as and its alot smaller, yes not as powerful but its been proved it can run better graphics on the need for speed game that was brought out for it than when it was brought out for pc. Cheaper than both and will no doubt be brought down even cheaper. Everyone is going on about the next gen and not talking about the Wii U think we shall be seeing our childhood friends back on top again very soon. Oh and its free online for anyone and everyone.
That's a whole lot of words for nothing. You're going by personal opinion.I'm going by general consensus (and industry awards)
@DayZ No you are also going by your personal opinion, many other people have had better experiences on other consoles due to games that they have attachments to. I loved my PS1 and PS2, I never considered an N64 because I loved GT1&2, Spyro the dragon and Crash Bandicoot. Sadly, the last two games never really made a good game on PS2, although I enjoyed R&C and a few other games. The first Xbox at this point interested me, me and my friend would have played the hell out of Halo 1&2 and Mechassault, so when the 360 came out, I would make the jump because I really started to like FPS games, the jump isn't as painful as it would've been if I jumped back the PS4. Everyone has their own preferences for which console they get, all my friends are sticking with xbox, and all the games I loved on the 360 are still there.
Thanks for those first three lines, I needed a good laugh today. EDIT: Lol at using general consensus and industry awards. Those words you are using, I do not think it means what you think it means.
It's nice to see the nintendo fanboys out in force.All two of them lol. Yes, industry awards. http://www.interactive.org/... And yes, general consensus.More people look back and remember gems like MGS1, FF7, Gran turismo, Spyro, crash, GOW1&2,ICO,SOTC and the plethora of PS2 gems. PS3 has multiple record breaking award winners.LBP, UC2, MGS4, TLOU to name a few.There is no comparison.
Didn't know I was a Nintendo fanboy by barely playing any nintendo this gen. And it's not like games like Mario 64, Zelda: OoT, and Goldeneye are up for best games of all time or anything. N64 had the better games that gen. 6th gen is up for debate, I am of the belief that Xbox had the better games, but PS2 did have FFX and SOTC which I greatly enjoyed. This gen Wii had more awards than the other two, but I believe PS3 was a close second with games like GOW3, MGS4, and Last of Us. And how could I forget the best game out of 2009, easily game of the year...Demon Souls.
This is N4G.COM so the answer should be very obvious as to which console one should get....
Lol, yes. This place is perhaps the least objective in a whole web
Yup i remember this was a whole different story from 2005 to 2008 & 2009. Oh how times have changed lol.
That's exactly what I am driving at. This site is WELL KNOWN to be a haven for fanboys of all stripes and actually has become the butt of jokes on the web because of it. However at this point in time and for the past many years, we all know who are the cast majority of type of fanboys on this site.....
N4G has never been this bad as it is now, not even between 2005 to 2008. N4G is infested with Sony diehard fanboys.
And i suppose you consider yourself not part of this fanboy demographic, right fermcr? You're just mad that all the xbox fanboys have left.Most likely tired of being wrong time and time again.
fermcr It was worse then. Sony didnt even force none of these drm & restrictions but was already being said doomed, it has no games. These articles were daily articles saying the ps3 was doomed & no games for years. Even when uncharted & mgs4 released, it was still, no games, i want to play my games not watch a movie & its just a bluray player. It was worse then what u see now.
PS3 is doomed though.....now PS4 is coming along!
im more than sure the ps4 will over heat and break thats why im not getting one
Yup because it was the ps3 that had the worst hardware failer ever right? /s
no im just saying seems a bit compact
Microsoft is infamous for producing faulty hardware. Judging by their history with defects with the 360 I would be more worried about the Xbox One than the PS4. IMO But I do understand why you say this. It really is difficult to believe that the PS4 is almost half the size of the Xbox One but its more powerful than it. The main reason behind this is because Sony is much better designing hardware than Microsoft No offense. Motorola RAZR i
ok good point just seem like sony stuff to much in the ps4 lol
I think you just cursed yourself. I'll put money on the fact that Microsoft has rrod issues again this gen. They are not a hardware company.
you know ya fuuny right...well my smartphone is so thin, so it will break... Retarded comment from an X fan...Good luck in ya first year with the one...
your smart phone is not hooked to a power socket and also samsung have said its a bad make
All i want is games & the ps4 just caters my taste because i like innovative games. The xbone would look more attractive without a camera but im still iffy with microsoft. I want to hold out for a bit to see if the hardware is legit for its 1st year & if they can lower that price & have more games appealing to me besides titanfalls then ill grab it down the line & i also want to wait & see if this cloud power is legit or all smoke & mirrors.
Team Ico, Naughty Dog, Poliphony Digital, Sucker Punch, Santa Monica and Team Ico. I'll probably get a xbone at the end of next gen to play its exclusives.
The one you prefer, or both. As with any other products.
Thanks but no thanks. I work hard for my money and I do not need someone to tell me which one to get. I'll get both simply because I like games that are coming out on both. Is this not what gaming is about...GAMES!
I'm getting both at some point. I am interested in both consoles because of the games. At the moment, I am really liking the X1's games. I will probably get that before a PS4, but I know I will definitely be getting a PS4 down the road.
It will be a very long generation. Anyone who only gets 1 will miss lots of great games.
xbox one for me first... i personally prefer the xbox exclusives better... im really jnto shooters primarily i also like snap mode which is awesome and playing and skyping or watching sporting events on the same screen without switching inputs is cool and something i will use ALOT especially when the world cup starts up. gaming an watching sports at the same damn time man... The tv features are w.e since you cant actually dvr but yeah its kinda cool and contributes to snap mode so theres that the commitment to a top notch mp experience is big for me too MS has been doing it right since the OG xbox and im sure the One is no exception and the addition of all the dedicated servers will only serve to better that experience and yeah 300000 dedicated servers for Xbox games... servers on servers on servers. and yeah w.e the cloud can provide if anything is just a bonus oh yeah and HALO. cant wait...
PS4. I was introduced to the PS1 then the PS2, and now I own a PS3. I prefer the types of exclusive games that Sony produces such as Uncharted, Infamous and Gran Turismo. I won't get the PS4 day one though, I'd rather wait until it has been out for a while and the game library has built up a bit.