Xbox One Offers a Better Value Now Than Before

When Microsoft unveiled the Xbox One last month, a lot of people weren’t happy due to its take on the DRM issues and the always-online they wanted to implement on the platform. Following Sony’s E3 announcement that they will not do any DRM or the things that the Xbox One does, many assumed already that Sony will take lead this coming next-generation of consoles.

[TheLyonKing]

I still think the ps4 has the edge over one.

However it looks more viable now as a product in would by in the future...maybe. When the slim version comes out I would probably get it.

[BigFnHooters]

Edge?

The PS4:

* Massive power advantage over the Xbox One - the crazy fast system RAM, the 50 percent more powerful graphics hardware, 2 gigs more system RAM to use for games, none of the Kinect garbage that is running all the time bogging down system performance

Microsoft knows just how huge the performance gap is between the PS4 and the Xbox One and is why they are frantically spouting the 'Cloud' BS.

* The massive exclusives that Sony has thanks to their gigantic first party studio lineup that dwarfs Microsoft's tiny first party studios(that are now mostly casual shovelware focused)

* Support for the PS4 from third party developers from all three major console regions - Japan, USA, and Europe compared to Microsoft's almost complete reliance on US PC ports for 'exclusives'

* Replaceable and upgradeable harddrives

* Small and elegant design compared to Microsoft's ugly and giant box

* The internal power supply in the PS4 compared to Microsoft's stupid giant external powerbrick

* The Gaikai streaming service for PS1,PS2,PS3, and PS4 titles

The PS4 is made by gamers, for gamers.

The Xbox One is made by bean counters, for other higher up bean counters.

It is seven years into this generation and Playstation owners are playing one of the greatest games ever made with graphics many people wouldn't have thought possible just seven years ago. While the Xbox 360 hasn't seen anything but Kinect shovelware and multiplatform ports for the past three to four years.

[TheLyonKing]

edge, plain, continent advantage its still an advantage but this media report has put ms in a good light however they aven't really spoken about this:

The rules apply to games bought as physical discs only, and do not affect games downloaded via the online Xbox store.

"While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content," Mr Mattrick said.

"We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds."

However, there will be something of a trade-off for gamers.

Microsoft had planned to allow customers to "trade" downloaded games online in exchange for money off new titles. The change of stance means that gamers will no longer be able to do this - something gamers may regret in the future, one analyst suggested

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/t...

[Narutone66]

You forgot to mention that the PS4 is cheaper and that Sony is not requiring us to buy the PS Eye.

[BigFnHooters]

Thank you Narutone66.

[Geezus]

xbos has tv features, and takes multitasking to a new level with snap mode which lets you use two apps at the same time,, also has great exclusives and new ips, new and improved kinect which offers some great upside and can be used for group chat on skype , dedicated servers on all multiplayer games, partnership with most major sports brodcasters to deliver sports content to the xbox, partnership with EA which will yield exclusice games and content as well as early dlc on the xbox, is just as powerful as the ps4 as stated by many major developers like kojima, 300000 new servers to solidify the xbox live experience and again dedicated servers on all mp games which is a fantastic addition and will reduce some of the major complaint we face with p2p games, and teh cloudzzz.

[justicizms2099]

Sounds like a fanboyism!

[BigFnHooters]

Yes, the Xbox 360's graphics were so weak compared to the PS3's that its fans were reduced to trying to brag about mostly imagined minuscule differences in graphically mediocre multiplatform titles.

Microsoft knew just how badly the PS3 outclassed the wimpy Xbox 360 in graphics that they humiliating and sleazy low of forcing third party developers through contracts to agree to gimp their PS3 versions down to Xbox 360 level graphics.

And, Halo, best graphics...LOL

Halo 3 press kit "nothing less than a bribe"
http://www.qj.net/qjnet/xbo...

Yeah, congrats Microsoft those Halo 'awards' and 'reviews'...money well spent.

[FlunkinMonkey]

@Orange juice..

The Last of Us, Uncharted and God of War graphically blow anything the 360 has out the water.

Look what happened with the Bluray? You mean how MS are now adopting the same hardware yea? that must be because it was so unsuccessful right? Are you dim?

[slampunk]

Whilst i agree with all the points mentioned, the changes MS have made today have certainly made the system more appealing?

As with this gen, if you play multiplayer games such as COD you're probably better sticking with MS...(PS plus is great value though) - Titan Fall, Halo, Gears, First access to COD DLC + Destiny and BF4 etc and IMO better online infrastructure....

Sony is where i enjoy single player experiences and they certainly have some great exclusive content that will be coming too.....Uncharted, last of us 2, GOW, LBP plus many more....

Chill mate, it's an exiting time for gaming in general.....

[psyxon]

lol. OrangeJuice, are you serious man? "halo won best graphics in 2012" - how many 360 exclusives won best graphics? halo 4 and gears1. that's it. and seeing as how gears1 was on pc, it wasn't even a true exclusive. but i'll give it to you. how many ps3 exclusives won best graphics? uc3, uc2, gow3, mgs4. so how many is that for each console? ps3 = 4, 360 = 2. 4 > 2? yes. what game will win best graphics this year? we'll see. i bet it won't be any game on either xbox platform. not being a fanboy, just being honest. you must be in denial to not admit that most ps3 exclusives look better than 360's.

[psyxon]

also, using multiplatform games to do a comparison of graphics is just silly and senseless. seeing as one console is used as the lead, obviously it'll look better for that console. sony tried to innovate last gen with the cell processor, but it turned out to be a mistake. but you know what? they learned from it and went with a developer friendly processor this gen. that will make a HUGE difference this gen. just wait, kids. just wait.

[Hydrolex]

BigHooter well said Big Boy ! Sony has been in this business for a long time... Microsoft was learning how to fix bugs on Windows 95 while Sony was making consoles lol

What I'm trying to say is that, MICROSOFT is a NOOB !

[BigFnHooters]

"sony tried to innovate last gen with the cell processor, but it turned out to be a mistake."

Boggle.

Just how delusional can someone be?

Sony's Cell/RSX based PS3 CRUSHED the Xbox 360 in graphics this gen. The PS3 destroyed the Xbox 360 in graphics so badly this gen the Xbox 360 is the only console in the history of gaming to not have a single game that can compete with its competition.

Uncharted
Gran Turismo
Killzone
God of War

Nothing on the 360 remotely came close to PS3 exclusives this gen.

The PS3 crushed the Xbox 360 in every single possible graphical category:

* Resolution
* Poly counts
* World size complexity
* Materials
* Animation
* Lighting
* Particles and effects

The Xbox 360 was beaten so badly by Sony's Cell/RSX + Blu-Ray that the only thing it had to try to answer to the PS3 graphical domainance was silly fake Unreal Engine PR shots of Gears of War running on high end develop PCs claiming to be actual 360 graphics.

[psyxon]

@OrangeJuice here you go buddy. honestly, just watch the video. it's so not even an argument.

[psyxon]

uh, bigfnhooters, they ADMITTED it was a mistake. it wasn't developer friendly and it was the reason for the slow start of the ps3. i was all for it, i loved it. i was glad they finally tried something new and different, something innovative, even if it made it harder for developers, that's how innovation occurs. but, admittedly, it was a mistake, as a lot of developers just said screw it and used the 360 as a lead. i don't want that. this/next gen, i want the ps4 to be lead so i don't buy dumbed down ports when i know the ps4 is capable of so much more.

i doubt you even read my comment man. you saw i said one seemingly bad thing about the ps3 and you jumped to its defense.

[grimmweisse]

Clearly you don't know your left from your right Orangejuice. The transition to bluray has already proven there is an advantage to it. It provides excellent read speeds for a high amount of data.

MS didn't think so they would gone with their custom media. Even if you think the ps3 is underpowered compared to the 360 developers proved what can be done in the right hands. You can say halo 4 all you want but there is denying Uncharted, Gran Turismo, God of War, The Last of Us are great looking games and play remarkably.

Sales wise the ps3 has overtaken the 360 globally, even with it's initial price point and slow start. Come next gen MS has it's work cutout. Fact, ps4 spec is more powerful. Fact cloud computing hasn't proven to significantly improve gaming performance.

I can appreciate good gaming on all consoles, but to outright dismiss things shows a lot of fanboyism.

[Ju]

Speaking of PS3...this "tiny" advantages lead to "The Last of Us" which knocks on next gen door visuals. Then there is still Beyond Two Souls coming out, and don't forget GT6 with - a little bit late - but uses "dynamic tessellation" on HW which is physically not able to pull this off (with my best guess is, that the SPUs do vertex tessellation in a pre-render-stage which simply isn't possible without the Cell). I think Sony was a forward thinker, but it is just now that devs find creative ways to harnes the potential.

What do you think what the same guys will do with 600 additional GF on the PS4? I bet you'll see a difference.

And, re. multiplatform...CoD, Destiny, BF4 etc. will run better on PS4. That's just on top of that. It just doesn't have the "legacy" troubles, the PS3 had.

[Tuxmask55]

Value is relative. It's still about $150 too expensive.

[NameRemoved0017]

Drop the kinect and lower the price to $350 because the hardware is not worth as much as the PS4 and it would do well.

[NameRemoved0017]

Even hardcore xbox fans don't want to be forced to use kinect. Do you see the masses going out to buy kinect? No, it is for casual gamers and the target market for it is families not gamers. So if your going to have a hard core gaming console why the hell does it force you to have a kinect.

Another problem a lot of people have is their rooms are not big enough to use the damn thing in the first place.

[nukeitall]

You people are forgetting something, value isn't absolute and isn't counted by specs.

It is about delivering features and use cases that customer wants, that means games, ease of use, features and so on.

There is a reason why MS consistently was able to charge a premium for XBL Gold, while Sony couldn't really sway users to switch despite being close in price (in some cases cheaper) for the console and PSN being free.

I think as MS starts demoing Xbox One with Kinect in stores, people will love it and will really create the buzz of next-gen featured console.

[Tuxmask55]

nukeitall, I agree that value isn't strictly about the specs but also its features. Unfortunately, the minority of prospective Xbox One owners seem to be desiring Xbox One's non-gaming features.

[pompombrum]

So they've stripped some of the better features that make the console stand out, on the day of release offers somewhat inferior hardware and still charge us more because they are forcing on us an accessory that a large proportion of gamers have absolutely no interest in. Yeah.. the Xbox One offers more value than ever /s

[RandomDude655]

Still too expensive

[GamerzElite]

After MS's PR mesh, I am not a looser to buy a XBox One on launch. I am happy with my XBox 360.
My buying Schedule:
PS4 : On launch
XBone: wait till price drop

[pompombrum]

Same thoughts here.. with the removal of the restrictions I'll pick it up eventually but not at it's current price. If they offered a non kinect bundle and lowered the cost, I'd pick one up day one but if they done that, they probably wouldn't shift many kinect units at all.

[awesomeperson]

Exactly the same for me. To be honest, the One doesn't seem to offer me much more than I can get with the PS4 (and that I want).

I just want to see if Microsoft can continue delivering a good selection of exclusive games, or if it will be a repeat of this (last) generation where they had an initial great period, before third party exclusives went multiplat and the first party ones dried up.

[boybato]

Good thing Xbone is not available (where I'm at) at launch... As I plan on waiting once the console war dust settles before buying one.

[SockeyBoy]

Got mine Pre Ordered :D I'm not too fussed by the price.

[Mkai28]

I agree, as gamers buy what you want. Don't let some child tell you what to buy an what not to. I'll be getting both at launch.

[xXBlondieVanHarlowXx]

Pretty much, it's still crummy though. They are only half way there tbh, remove mandatory Kinect spy camera, remove inferior tech and remove $150 off the price & then we'll talk. They were dead set on " DRM is da futurez! hurr" and now they erased the two legs their console was built to stand on??.. Greeeeeat neeeeeeews. /s

So now i'm suppose to believe they have it all figured out?? They obviously don't know what or where to do/go now. OR maybe they know exactly what to do, patch the DRM features after the console releases. As an "optional" thing.

Which is pretty likely. Don't mean to sh*t in anyones corn flakes. Just my 2 cents.

[Godmars290]

Trying to promote/defend the XBO at this point sound like its nothing but exhausting.

Edit:
No. Bashing on it was already getting tied and sad. MS is just beating themselves up. Severely. And gamers who were/are supporting them weren't doing themselves any favors in supporting something which took so much control away from them.

[maniacmayhem]

Bashing and crying about it never seems to lose steam though.

[Dannycr]

Well, it's because of the bashing and crying that Microsoft turned their policies around. You probably have to thank the people for salvaging a dead on arrival device.

You probably will have to thank even Sony, because their PR Campaign fueled most of the rage.

[maniacmayhem]

@Danni

http://n4g.com/news/1286805...

[maniacmayhem]

Yup, I'm sold.

Titanfall
Deadrising 3
Killer Instinct
Quantum Break

Looking to be a good launch in my opinion.

[Mkai28]

Not sure if Titanfall and Quantum Break are launch titles. Forza 5 and Ryse are also in the launch.

[pompombrum]

Titanfall is next spring I believe.. hopefully by then they will do it bundled with the console or lower the cost.

[SockeyBoy]

Nice list and I'm posting my launch buys for people interested :P

-Dead Rising 3 or Ryse.
-Forza 5
-Quantum Break
-Project Spark (if it makes it to launch)

and I'm really looking forward to see what Sunset Overdrive brings to the table.

[Dynasty2021]

PS4 is $100 cheaper, and more powerful.

No, the Xbox One doesn't offer better value.

[Whitey2k]

dont forget the indie games aswell for the ps4 exclusive like planetside 2 warframe outkast, abes oddysee etc etc

[Monkeysmoke]

PS4 is more powerful and $100 cheaper

PS4 RAM 8GB GDDR5 >> XBOX one RAM 8GB DDR3
PS4 GPU 50% >> XBOX one GPU

PS4 has more console exclusives currently than XBOX ONE
PS4 has more games overall than xbox one

PS4 still has a solution for to play PS3, PS2 and PS1 games through Gakai Cloud. But XBOX one doesn't.

PS4 is still the better BUY by far.

[hulk_bash1987]

The used games were never an issue with me personally because I buy most of my games new. But as a consumer I believe in the idea that what you buy, pay for with your own money, is yours and you should therefore be able to do whatever you want with it. The only real grip I had with the Xbox One was the 24-hr mandatory sign in. That being said, I will be getting a PS4 at launch simply because the price is right, the games interest me, and Sony seems to have their sh@t together.

[TrevorPhillips]

Guys what IF the same patch that is going to remove DRM and all will be the same patch that will implement it towards the coming months. You know a sleezy trick to get all the consumers back or they can slowly bring the features back without having anyone to notice about it. You get me

[hulk_bash1987]

If that happens, lets just say Microsoft will have an even bigger sh!tstorm to deal with in lawsuits.

[ufo8mycat]

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Microsoft did this

[Manic2014]

That would never happen as that would go against the consumer act on how the product can be used and as Internet is a classified as a luxury, if MS put up the same requirements and restrictions. You expect MS to have to pay Billions of dollars to court and to the consumers.

[sovkhan]

Now microsoft realises it is not in its pc land, where it can dictates whatever with no rival in front...Thanks to all the gamers for this clear WIN, but don't lower your guard Microsoft has shown in its past how arrogant they can be, so yes they have dropt their drm shit but it is lying there ready to burst in our faces if we don't stay vigilant...
That's said let the real competition now begin...

[elhebbo16]

it still:
-weaker than the ps4
-needs mandatory kinect
-wont allow indies to self publish.
- cost $500.

[Gamer-Z]

I'm sorry MS but just like a girlfriend who cheats, i cant ever trust you again.

[tigertron]

As far as I'm concerned, the Xbox One has ways to go before it can prove itself worthy.

I went from "not buying one at all" to "buying one when it's cheap".

[ginsunuva]

How? The value hasn't increased at all. In fact, features were removed.